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Need help/recommendations/opinions on buying & installing central Air Conditioner A/C system

jbloggs 9,661 4,515 June 1, 2016 at 09:09 AM
Yesterday I had a A/C & Heating company come out to take look at the A/C system for upstairs that was not working. So they diagnosed that the "Disconnect switch" was the issue. So I paid $200 to have it replaced (later found out that the switch itself is only $20 and very easy to install). Anyway after replacing the switch they found that the Compressor was not kicking in and so, since the system is almost 18 years old they said that the whole system would need replacing and quoted me $2700 installed for 2-ton Rheem 14 Seer 410-A (including Evaporator coil). If I wanted to also replace the furnace at the same time then it would cost an additional $1000.

I had another quote from someone else for $2000 for York system.

I have no idea if these costs are reasonable, which brand/model are well regarded and how to go about shopping for a system.

1) Which brands/models should I look into?
2) Should I look into buy the system myself and get someone to install it?
3) What should I expect to pay just for the installation?
4) Should I replace the Furnace (same age) at the same time?
5) What is the best approach to shopping for a system? (Go with Home Depot/Lowes/Costco/etc or Independent A/C specialized retailers or something else)
6) Anything I've missed?

Your help/recommendations/opinions are much appreciated. Thank you !!!

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Yesterday I had a A/C & Heating company come out to take look at the A/C system for upstairs that was not working. So they diagnosed that the "Disconnect switch" was the issue. So I paid $200 to have it replaced (later found out that the switch itself is only $20 and very easy to install). Anyway after replacing the switch they found that the Compressor was not kicking in and so, since the system is almost 18 years old they said that the whole system would need replacing and quoted me $2700 installed for 2-ton Rheem 14 Seer 410-A (including Evaporator coil). If I wanted to also replace the furnace at the same time then it would cost an additional $1000.

I had another quote from someone else for $2000 for York system.

I have no idea if these costs are reasonable, which brand/model are well regarded and how to go about shopping for a system.

1) Which brands/models should I look into?
2) Should I look into buy the system myself and get someone to install it?
3) What should I expect to pay just for the installation?
4) Should I replace the Furnace (same age) at the same time?
5) What is the best approach to shopping for a system? (Go with Home Depot/Lowes/Costco/etc or Independent A/C specialized retailers or something else)
6) Anything I've missed?

Your help/recommendations/opinions are much appreciated. Thank you !!!
15-20 years is about as long as any A/C system lasts.

York and Rheem are two of the lowest brands. Any contractor that is using them may not be licensed since these are two big "internet" brands that can be purchased anywhere by anyone. I'd ensure they are licensed. That said, $2700 is a decent price for an entire new A/C system. The system by itself is $1500-$2500 for the brands you listed. But the system is only as good as the installation. Did they do a complete quote including figuring how many tons of A/C you need based on the calculations of the size of your ductwork?

Check with your utilities about rebates on efficient units. 14 SEER isn't super good and will not get you any rebates with most utilities. Most want to see at least 16 but better 18 SEER. Many utilities require the contractor to submit the paperwork. Rebates run from a few hundred to over a thousand so make sure you get everything. There are also tax credits for efficient units so investigate that.

Lenox, Carrier, Trane, etc are top brands. Bryant is Carriers lower line and a favorite for builders. You could buy the units yourself, place them, then call someone to braze them and make all the final connections, but many manufacturers will not honor the warranty unless the entire unit was purchased and installed by a licensed professional. Also brands like Lenox will not even sell to a consumer.

I just got two entirely new systems (high end Lenox ~18 SEER, 96% efficient ) installed 2 weeks ago (A/C and Furnace x2) at a total cost of around $15k after rebates. I felt this was a good deal after getting a few quotes. My units also included 12 years of parts and labor though.

Installation charges are very dependent on your location.
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Also FYI: Make sure they are replacing the lineset between the inside and outside unit and not just flushing and reusing the old one. There are differences between r410a and r22 and really you should be getting a new lineset. That said, depending on how hard your lines are to get at, you could be looking at extra charges for installation with a new set.
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My neighbor is HVAC biz owner and he has seen "white label" AC with fake Carrier sticker! Look into a Mini-split by Mistabishi ...
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15-20 years is about as long as any A/C system lasts.

York and Rheem are two of the lowest brands. Any contractor that is using them may not be licensed since these are two big "internet" brands that can be purchased anywhere by anyone. I'd ensure they are licensed. That said, $2700 is a decent price for an entire new A/C system. The system by itself is $1500-$2500 for the brands you listed. But the system is only as good as the installation. Did they do a complete quote including figuring how many tons of A/C you need based on the calculations of the size of your ductwork?

Check with your utilities about rebates on efficient units. 14 SEER isn't super good and will not get you any rebates with most utilities. Most want to see at least 16 but better 18 SEER. Many utilities require the contractor to submit the paperwork. Rebates run from a few hundred to over a thousand so make sure you get everything. There are also tax credits for efficient units so investigate that.

Lenox, Carrier, Trane, etc are top brands. Bryant is Carriers lower line and a favorite for builders. You could buy the units yourself, place them, then call someone to braze them and make all the final connections, but many manufacturers will not honor the warranty unless the entire unit was purchased and installed by a licensed professional. Also brands like Lenox will not even sell to a consumer.

I just got two entirely new systems (high end Lenox ~18 SEER, 96% efficient ) installed 2 weeks ago (A/C and Furnace x2) at a total cost of around $15k after rebates. I felt this was a good deal after getting a few quotes. My units also included 12 years of parts and labor though.

Installation charges are very dependent on your location.
Thank you for all the info !!!

I've had quote for installing a Goodman 2-ton 14 Seer system for $2300. Is Goodman considered a good brand? Is it worth going for 16 Seer system? I thinking that there is never a deal to be had in installing an A/C system and will just have to bite the bullet soon.

Another quote I just got was a Amana 2-ton 14 Seer system for $2650.
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http://www.ecomfort.com/stories/1...Money.html good article on seer
Thanks, that was very helpful !
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