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Promoted 06-09-2016 by persian_mafia at 07:42 PM View Original Post
Ashford has Hamilton Men's American Classic Railroad Petite Seconde Automatic Watch (H40645555) on sale for $813.45 - $164.45 w/ promotion code SDCLASSC649 = $649. Shipping is free. Thanks iconian
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This is interesting, because I had a Hamilton Railroad that I sold because the hands were the same color as the dial and I couldn't read it easily, but that one had an ETA 2824. This one has a ETA A07.511. I had no idea what that was, but a quick google led me to this:

http://www.valgranges.ch/#/info

Basically it is a modified Valjioux with a 46 hour reserve.
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I love love this watch!!! Thanks OP
I'm on for 1
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I love love this watch!!! Thanks OP
I'm on for 1
what's so special about it?
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what's so special about it?
Check out the link in my earlier comment. It is a heritage style with a non-standard, high grade movement with an incredible power reserve.
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Check out the link in my earlier comment. It is a heritage style with a non-standard, high grade movement with an incredible power reserve.
probably but the fact that this gets posted on slickdeals with a ssd coupon means that the price is nothing special and it pretty much is a sponsored ad.
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probably but the fact that this gets posted on slickdeals with a ssd coupon means that the price is nothing special and it pretty much is a sponsored ad.
It depends what you call "nothing special". I wouldn't buy anything until I have researched historical price trends, product reviews, etc. But I do know that even before coupons are applied the grey market sellers are far cheaper than B&M stores.

According to Google, the next cheapest seller is Overstock which is just shy of $1K.
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This is interesting, because I had a Hamilton Railroad that I sold because the hands were the same color as the dial and I couldn't read it easily, but that one had an ETA 2824. This one has a ETA A07.511. I had no idea what that was, but a quick google led me to this:

http://www.valgranges.ch/#/info

Basically it is a modified Valjioux with a 46 hour reserve.
There's more to it than that, it's the larger version of the equivalent Valjoux. This is somewhat important because it has greater torque thus allowing the movement to more easily turn longer hands. It also has the side benefit of fitting the case better so the aesthetics of a skeleton dial (which this watch doesn't have) or an exhibition caseback (which it does have) are a bit better. IIRC they are a 16.25''' (''' = lines, an old watchmaking measurement that equals 1/12 inch) rather than a standard ETA size of about 13.5'''.


It also immediately tells a prospective buyer that it's a bigger watch (not that bad @ 42mm, but still a bit large for a dress watch).
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What's the reserve, doesn't list on site? tks

Quote from The_Linux_Crew View Post :
Check out the link in my earlier comment. It is a heritage style with a non-standard, high grade movement with an incredible power reserve.
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What's the reserve, doesn't list on site? tks
46hrs; but you might expect more. I don't know if it's exclusive to the new Hamilton movements, which this doesn't have, or any Swatch movement, but my Hamilton H-21 gets a fair bit better (about 10% more) than the factory estimate. I have another newer Hamilton with a ETA 2824 (which is closer to this movement), but honestly it doesn't get much consecutive wrist time and therefore mostly lives in a watch winder, so I haven't gotten around to determining the power reserve.
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46hrs; but you might expect more. I don't know if it's exclusive to the new Hamilton movements, which this doesn't have, or any Swatch movement, but my Hamilton H-21 gets a fair bit better (about 10% more) than the factory estimate. I have another newer Hamilton with a ETA 2824 (which is closer to this movement), but honestly it doesn't get much consecutive wrist time and therefore mostly lives in a watch winder, so I haven't gotten around to determining the power reserve.
do you need a watch finder if you have an automatic watch?
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do you need a watch [winder] if you have an automatic watch?
Certainly not...but you do if you have about 15 of 'em. It's not that I have too many watches...I just ran short on wrists. Wink

They really are a handy device for those with several automatics...especially if one or more doesn't get enough wrist time to keep it wound. You still have to make occasional adjustments to keep it accurate and reset the date from time to time (unless you have a perpetual calendar), but it keeps it ready to go for the most part.
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Beautiful, I would pull the trigger right now if I weren't between jobs Frown
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Quote from MaverickKWS View Post :
46hrs; but you might expect more. I don't know if it's exclusive to the new Hamilton movements, which this doesn't have, or any Swatch movement, but my Hamilton H-21 gets a fair bit better (about 10% more) than the factory estimate. I have another newer Hamilton with a ETA 2824 (which is closer to this movement), but honestly it doesn't get much consecutive wrist time and therefore mostly lives in a watch winder, so I haven't gotten around to determining the power reserve.
just out of curiosity, how could one have perpetual calendar on an automatic watch? I don't think it is possible (unless the calendar mechanism is powered by a battery of some sort...which wouldn't be a fully auto watch) but I may be wrong.

I think it is a beautiful watch but (no offense to OP), the FP rating feels artificially elevated...more like a SD promoted ad.
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