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Windows 10 Upgrade: If I Upgrade Then Revert Back Will My Computer Key Stay Registered?

aznnp77 1,876 265 June 20, 2016 at 09:13 AM
So this is the last month for Windows 10 upgrades for free and I'm debating on my options. I have 4 computers all with Windows 7 on them. I hate Windows 10 because everything is so complicated to get to. But this isn't a debate on the merits of Windows 10 vs. Windows 7.

From what I understand, once you upgrade to Windows 10, your product key gets registered with Microsoft. So if you ever had to do a clean install, Microsoft would let you with your existing key. Not sure if you would need to type in an actual key or not, or if they would just know based on your MOBO or something.

So if I upgraded to Windows 10,which registers my product key with them, then reverted back to Windows 7 (within 30 days), would my Windows 10 key still be valid in the future?

In my case, it probably isn't a big deal. These computers will be recycled by the 2020 death date for Windows 7.

I should also probably make a couple of Windows 10 ISOs before the deadline. Does anyone have the best link for that? I could probably google, but there's so many spyware sites, and I'm sure someone knows a direct link.

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Can you elaborate on the "complicated to get to" part?

Yes your key should still be there.

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Some things to know before you proceed.

1) You can download the Windows 10 image using the Media Creation tool at any time. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/s...windows10/ This will work after the deadline or now. No need to hoard the image Smilie or make several. I am assuming once the Readstone update is out and tested Microsoft will update the image tool to pull it instead of the November edition it currently is. It's in Microsoft's best interest to keep the tool updated to minimize the amount of updates a system has to load after an install.

2) Your understanding of the activation process is correct from what I understand and have experienced. I think right now during the "free upgrade" period activation is a bit more lenient, so it's hard to say what will happen after the deadline is over. OEM PC's key is built into the BIOS so there is nothing to record.

3) If you are happy with Windows 7 and plan to replace your computers before 2020 then why do you feel the pressure to upgrade? You can use Never10 to block the install for the remaining month and be done with it. There are a few increased security things that Windows 10 does that are nice but not running as an administrator does a good job of some of these (Better way to run anyways). Personally I like it, and don't find that much in different locations. Reality is it's a good time to learn the new way as it's unlikely the old way will still be the old way too much longer.

4) If you do decide to upgrade to "reserve" your copy and then revert back to Windows 7, I would strongly advise taking an image of your system prior to the update. I have seen in more then once case the revert back to windows 7 feature not work very well. So don't rely upon it. It would be much easier to revert back to an image then do a reinstall. It's also worth noting you should have a good (offline) backup of your documents, files, and programs before the upgrade.
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Microsoft records the hardware that was activated with Windows 10. So, it's not just the key. You will retain the upgrade.

As for "complicated to get to"......you start typing the name of the app and hit enter, or right click and add to the Start Menu/Taskbar. How is that not as easy or easier than Windows 7? The right click on the Start Button alone makes Windows 10 a superior OS.
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Microsoft records the hardware that was activated with Windows 10. So, it's not just the key. You will retain the upgrade.
Are you saying that someone can upgrade to Windows 10 and then rollback the upgrade, then after July 29th, still upgrade again to Windows 10 for Free and also do a clean install?
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Are you saying that someone can upgrade to Windows 10 and then rollback the upgrade, then after July 29th, still upgrade again to Windows 10 for Free and also do a clean install?
Well, I'm not totally sure if that's true if you roll it back within Windows. That would be interesting to try though. But, if you install Windows 10 on one hard drive with your current Windows 7/8/8.1 key and then swap it back to your Windows 7/8/8.1 hard drive, you will retain the upgrade. Once your device has been registered as being upgraded to Windows 10 (before the free deadline), it will forever be approved.
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Well, I'm not totally sure if that's true if you roll it back within Windows. That would be interesting to try though. But, if you install Windows 10 on one hard drive with your current Windows 7/8/8.1 key and then swap it back to your Windows 7/8/8.1 hard drive, you will retain the upgrade. Once your device has been registered as being upgraded to Windows 10 (before the free deadline), it will forever be approved.
Ok let me ask another. I have Win 7 and Win 8.1 on separate drives and use Dual Boot. Can you have 2 OS's with the same machine hash after one or both of them are upgraded to Windows 10 and then clean installed?
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Ok let me ask another. I have Win 7 and Win 8.1 on separate drives and use Dual Boot. Can you have 2 OS's with the same machine hash after one or both of them are upgraded to Windows 10 and then clean installed?
That's a new scenario. I think that would just be one hash. But, not totally sure. Never been asked the dual boot question before.
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New build of windows 10 (Fast ring) addresses motherboard and hard drive replacements with a new activation helper http://www.zdnet.com/article/new-...leshooter/
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Well I originally said this isn't a debate on the merits of Windows 7 vs. Windows 10. I just don't like it, and there are thousands of people like me that still prefer Windows 7.

Thanks LiquidRetro for replying to my question, and to repitall for restating the original question that I had posed in my original post.

I guess the answer is no one really knows, and you won't be able to find out what you can or can't do until the deadline has passed. I think I might upgrade the older computers to Windows 10. The users don't seem to mind as much as I do, and they'll be a little more valuable once I try to offload them on craigslist one day.

My new computer came with Windows 10 and I have the license for it, I just use a separate SSD with Windows 7 on it and left the original HD intact.
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Well I originally said this isn't a debate on the merits of Windows 7 vs. Windows 10. I just don't like it, and there are thousands of people like me that still prefer Windows 7.

Thanks LiquidRetro for replying to my question, and to repitall for restating the original question that I had posed in my original post.

I guess the answer is no one really knows, and you won't be able to find out what you can or can't do until the deadline has passed. I think I might upgrade the older computers to Windows 10. The users don't seem to mind as much as I do, and they'll be a little more valuable once I try to offload them on craigslist one day.

My new computer came with Windows 10 and I have the license for it, I just use a separate SSD with Windows 7 on it and left the original HD intact.
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