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FYI Unwanted Windows 10 Installs worth $10k minimum from Microsoft

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Last Edited by widgit June 25, 2016 at 05:37 PM
We now have the first legal precedent for people affected by Microsoft's terrible Windows 10 forced upgrade program. Last month a judgment was issued for $10,000 in Marin county, California for a woman that had her computer upgrade to Windows 10 without her explicit consent.

The small claims case number is SMC1610237, and can be seen here:
http://www.marincourt.org/PublicI...sults.aspx

Yes, Microsoft says they don't upgrade without consent, but it's all BS. There is documented evidence they have for sure in a 2 week window upgraded without any user interaction, and they also recently changed the functionality of the "X" button on their upgrade notice to mean "yes", not "no" (or, literally, "cancel"), which is against all Windows guidelines as well as making Win 10 a "recommended" security update (it's a WHOLE OS, not a security update!) and other nasty games that ruined trust in Windows update.

Microsoft did not contest this ruling, citing the cost of litigation, but this was Small Claims, so cost is unlikely to really be the factor. It's more likely that they did not want to advertise that this woman had sued and won because with the documentation that's out there, there is no successful defense for Microsoft in this matter.

Yeah, it's a pain in the butt to file a small claims case, but it's maybe a few hours maximum collecting evidence of their forced install programs and ineffective rollback program (that lost information when rolled back to Win 7). So for $35-$50 small claims filing fee, there's now a clear precedent for making Microsoft pay each user $10,000 for their terrible deception on Win 10 upgrades.\

Link to news story about this case:
http://www.seattletimes.com/busin...-pc-users/
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Thank you, thank you. I have a litigious friend that will be very happy to hear that. Specially since the rollback to Win 7 corrupted his data and he lost everything.
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Thank you, thank you. I have a litigious friend that will be very happy to hear that. Specially since the rollback to Win 7 corrupted his data and he lost everything.
Remember that he must claim a new computer and lost of wages too.

Not every user will get $10k.
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Not a deal but thank you for sharing. I use Enterprise on all my machines and MS is not *that* dumb to force this on Enterprise users.

But I'm glad they're getting sued over this bullshit. And I truly hope this becomes a class action lawsuit very soon. Yes some BS law company will become filthy rich (and not the actual abused user), but MS needs to learn to not do this in the future. And the only way to teach them is to make them cost many, many millions.
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When I first saw this post immediately I thought of idiots buying patents. You're all just looking for a lottery ticket for a lawsuit. Some SD members really are pathetic
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This is bullshit. I've deployed windows 10 on dozens of computers without ANY issues whatsoever. Any issues that arise are due to user error or malicious software.

I'm not sure I get the sentiment behind the "screw windows 10, I'm staying on 7" bandwagon. It's a change for the better, and by sticking with an older operating system you're making yourself more prone to malicious software infections.

There are a small number of enterprise users that have good reason to not upgrade.
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When I first saw this post immediately I thought of idiots buying patents. You're all just looking for a lottery ticket for a lawsuit. Some SD members really are pathetic
I thought that too. Then I read the plaintiff made a living from the computer that got corrupted.
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How is this s slick deal? Interesting info, but entirely wrong forum to post. You're wasting other people's time.
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1st world problems..windows ruined my life! Gimme money.

According to all the anti-msft people, windows has been ruining lives for 20+ years.
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How is this s slick deal? Interesting info, but entirely wrong forum to post. You're wasting other people's time.
It's a slick deal if you spend $30-40 and get back $10K. Same as minor traffic accident law suits.
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This is bullshit. I've deployed windows 10 on dozens of computers without ANY issues whatsoever. Any issues that arise are due to user error or malicious software.

I'm not sure I get the sentiment behind the "screw windows 10, I'm staying on 7" bandwagon. It's a change for the better, and by sticking with an older operating system you're making yourself more prone to malicious software infections.

There are a small number of enterprise users that have good reason to not upgrade.
I am pretty sure there are some users that won't upgrade because third party software/drivers incompatibility with Win10. After all, it wasn't an automatic upgrade unless the computer was set up that way. I am pretty sure before install one must agree to the EULA(seldom one reads that).
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"$10k minimum" the op must be a writer for yahoo with such piss poor incorrect information
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This is bullshit. I've deployed windows 10 on dozens of computers without ANY issues whatsoever. Any issues that arise are due to user error or malicious software.

I'm not sure I get the sentiment behind the "screw windows 10, I'm staying on 7" bandwagon. It's a change for the better, and by sticking with an older operating system you're making yourself more prone to malicious software infections.

There are a small number of enterprise users that have good reason to not upgrade.

It's great that everything worked for you, but some people have had issues. Problems have been documented, it's called Google, try it sometimes. It's not always about ID10T codes.


There are good reasons not to upgrade to windows 10. I have several machines on my home network that feed cable TV to several TV's. I would have probably upgraded to 10, however they removed Windows Media Center. It's just not an option for me at this time and it's not a good option for a LARGE number of enterprise customers. They will upgrade after everything has been validated.
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When I first saw this post immediately I thought of idiots buying patents. You're all just looking for a lottery ticket for a lawsuit. Some SD members really are pathetic
It's more about punishing Microsoft for abusing the trust of their users by doing things like making Windows 10 a "recommended update", which would automatically install it on every machine that had "install recommended updates" for security updates turned on. It's heinous, desperate behavior, and I'm glad they're seeing the beginning of their comeuppance for it.
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This is bullshit. I've deployed windows 10 on dozens of computers without ANY issues whatsoever. Any issues that arise are due to user error or malicious software.

I'm not sure I get the sentiment behind the "screw windows 10, I'm staying on 7" bandwagon. It's a change for the better, and by sticking with an older operating system you're making yourself more prone to malicious software infections.
Do you work for Microsoft? There are plenty of reasons not to take Windows 10, not the least of which is it's LESS COMPATIBLE with software and hardware than the time-tested Windows 7. Lots of vertically integrated software will not work on Win 10, period. Others have new bugs.

Windows 10 is less compatible with hardware than Win 7. Lots of Win 7 hardware simply will never have a Win 10 driver made.

Windows 10 also spies on users and their files. Hospitals cannot run it because by installing it, you are agreeing to letting anything on that machine be sampled or outright downloaded by MS. They would be out of compliance with HIPAA regulations. Even with all the known spy settings turned off, a test machine still accessed unknown IPs over 5000 times an hour trying to send packets of info off a user's machine.

I don't buy the "more secure from malware" bit, either. Smells like MS spin. A NEW OS will, by definition, be less tested and have more potential undocumented holes in the OS. It's just the way development goes. Those will be uncovered over time, but I sincerely doubt there are less holes than the time-tested Win 7.
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