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time has come for a 4k tv only section, too many deals on old tech...

mikmaze 411 29 June 27, 2016 at 03:29 PM
can we get a split for 4k sets? seems like so many tv threads, and all most are looking for is 4k at this point. I and folks I know would like this....... thoughts?

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Spend extra money for a TV that only has a few options to show 4k content? Just like new "High Def" tv's did when thye debuted in 2000? No thanks.
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In next year's models, very nearly all TV's 50" and greater will be 4K.

The best quality in 4K sets can be found in those which support 10-bit color and HDR, or High Dynamic Range. The Quantum Dot TV's are especially good, with amazing colors.
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Spend extra money for a TV that only has a few options to show 4k content? Just like new "High Def" tv's did when thye debuted in 2000? No thanks.
I pretty much agree with this. My current 50" 1080P TV works fine and has lots of content. When it dies I would probably upgrade to 4k but I would not pay a big premium for it. 4k prices only continue to come down and quality goes up.
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This is more of an issue for the site issues forum.

I'm not convinced a dedicated section is needed. You can use tags to filter/search which should work pretty well.
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Somehow this thread took off in a completely different direction that th OP was asking about.
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Good idea
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An OLED section makes more sense. OLED HD is better than UHD 4k. 4k and HD are virtually the same thing quality wise and the technology is pretty much identical. I don't really see it warranting its own section. OLED is a jump in technology.
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yeah, talking and debating content for the tv is irrelevant, I was hoping for a section with just 4k sets in the hot deals section, but like pointed out, adding oled to the search string should fix it. if you stand side by side with a 4k and a 1080 set and tell me there is no need for a 4 k set, your next trip should be to an eye DR, and please get someone to drive for you, you cant see!
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yeah, talking and debating content for the tv is irrelevant, I was hoping for a section with just 4k sets in the hot deals section, but like pointed out, adding oled to the search string should fix it. if you stand side by side with a 4k and a 1080 set and tell me there is no need for a 4 k set, your next trip should be to an eye DR, and please get someone to drive for you, you cant see!
Yes you can tell the differnece between 4k and 1080 if the 4K is playing true 4k content. The options are extremely limited, and a site that is all about saving money would not benefit from having a section devoted to only a small marketplace.

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Spend extra money for a TV that only has a few options to show 4k content? Just like new "High Def" tv's did when thye debuted in 2000? No thanks.
No such thing. Next year, all TV's 50" and larger will be 4K. It won't cost extra, it will be the only choice.
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yeah, talking and debating content for the tv is irrelevant, I was hoping for a section with just 4k sets in the hot deals section, but like pointed out, adding oled to the search string should fix it. if you stand side by side with a 4k and a 1080 set and tell me there is no need for a 4 k set, your next trip should be to an eye DR, and please get someone to drive for you, you cant see!
You should check out reviews for 4k sets. Don't just assume a bigger number is a lot better. There is no noticeable difference unless you are really close like 2 feet from the screen in most cases. Most people are 8-10 feet back where it makes no difference at all. None. And the reviews show this. I am not talking about anecdotal evidence where some schmuck that goes to Sears and sees UHD side by side with HD and says it is awesome. I am talking about real reviews.
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You should check out reviews for 4k sets. Don't just assume a bigger number is a lot better. There is no noticeable difference unless you are really close like 2 feet from the screen in most cases. Most people are 8-10 feet back where it makes no difference at all. None. And the reviews show this. I am not talking about anecdotal evidence where some schmuck that goes to Sears and sees UHD side by side with HD and says it is awesome. I am talking about real reviews.
And a 480p set looks the same as a 1080p TV as well. Because you can't see 400% more resolution.

Dealgate, you probably sent a 1080p signal to the 4K TV. Of course it will look just like a 1080p TV if you do this.

That said, the true 4K experience includes both 4K resolution and 10-bit color with high dynamic range (HDR) processing. If you can't see any difference between that an a 1080p TV, get your eyes checked.

If you compare the cheapest Wall-Mart 4K TV as your quality baseline, your mileage may vary, because, no kidding, you're using the cheapest of the cheapest cut-corner product you can.
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And a 480p set looks the same as a 1080p TV as well. Because you can't see 400% more resolution.

Dealgate, you probably sent a 1080p signal to the 4K TV. Of course it will look just like a 1080p TV if you do this.

That said, the true 4K experience includes both 4K resolution and 10-bit color with high dynamic range (HDR) processing. If you can't see any difference between that an a 1080p TV, get your eyes checked.

If you compare the cheapest Wall-Mart 4K TV as your quality baseline, your mileage may vary, because, no kidding, you're using the cheapest of the cheapest cut-corner product you can.
I am talking about specifically what review sites are reporting on 4k tvs. Here is a recent CNET review. I have not looked at them myself (still clinging to my plasma sets because I HATE motion blur which STILL exists in ALL LCD tvs) accept for in store displays, for which they look awesome. The below article explains why. 4k is here to stay of course. My point is it is not as good as advertised.

http://www.cnet.com/news/why-ultr...ll-stupid/
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I am talking about specifically what review sites are reporting on 4k tvs. Here is a recent CNET review. I have not looked at them myself (still clinging to my plasma sets because I HATE motion blur which STILL exists in ALL LCD tvs) accept for in store displays, for which they look awesome. The below article explains why. 4k is here to stay of course. My point is it is not as good as advertised.

http://www.cnet.com/news/why-ultr...ll-stupid/
No disrespect to you, but this CNET "expert" is writing a "review" based on not seeing a 4K television. Seriously. He just made a chart... no, he copied a chart that somebody else made, and concluded from the chart he didn't make that it means you can't see a difference if you use a 4K television from your sofa.

And, by the way... F-heads like this guy said the same thing about 720p television. Then they said the same thing about 1080p television. He doesn't even have an original argument, he's using an old argument that's been resoundingly disproven. And, let me disprove it: Can you tell a difference between 480p and 1080p content?
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