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ThorFire is offering their Solar LED Camping Lantern USB Rechargeable Flashlight Torch Mini Lamp with Handle Collapsible Rainproof Outdoor Lights Emergency Cell Phone Charger. [amazon.com]

Originally $19, now $8 8MYULYGE - Now $9.38
  • Long runtime: Built-in 900mAh battery, this solar powered lantern last up to 8 hours on High.
  • Versatile: Stretched as a LED lantern, and collapsed into a mini flashlight.
  • Small and lightweight: when collapse, it fits your pocket perfectly, you won't feel the weight.
  • Charge your phone: with USB output, it charges your cellphones for emergency.
  • ThorFire provides customers with 40 days money back guarantee

EDIT: Available in different sizes / options
The handcrank [amazon.com]: $17 --> $6 9JGKQE9L

Mini Lantern [amazon.com] $10 --> $5 LDDST94K
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[Edit: can't argue with Steeve's comment about the lousy Fakespot rating. I however did buy (with my own hard earned money) the other Thorfire lantern referenced below and have found it to be a well-built, reliable little light for camping and emergencies. However, if I didn't already have that positive personal experience, I'd shun this product, because I detest the idea of any Amazon vendor trying to buy their way to a positive user rating. Caveat Emptor and all that]

Thanks OP, in for one. I have the handcrank/USB version of this Thorfire lantern and have been very impressed. Good build quality and puts out a useful amount of light both in the collapsed flashlight and expanded lantern modes.

My handcrank version only has a 350 mAh battery, I think. The 900 mAh internal battery in this solar model seems like it would realistically be more useful as an emergency power bank to (partially) charge your cell phone.

As with the hand crank feature on the other Thorfire, I suspect the solar panel recharging option on this model should be considered only as a last resort emergency recharging method. Use the included USB cable to recharge this for everyday use.
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i've got the crank one..and like it...is this one any good?
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I have a handcrank version from another company (probably the same) and have had great luck with it. Probably won't buy into a rechargeable one though, I like the idea of this sitting in my truck and pulling it out when I need it. I have a flashlight that I can charge up and use, I don't need one more thing to remember to charge.
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the crank version is well built, i wonder how this one is.
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I'm new to fakespot. What would be an equivalent hand crank option that doesn't have fake reviews? I guess I could do that buy searching on amazon and doing lots of fakespot checks...

Now I've got both the camel*3 & fakespot chrome extensions :-D

Its too bad that there are fake reviews on amazon. I used to love amazon reviews for the purpose of truly understanding a products pros/cons but now I'm frustrated. It seems the hand cranked option has the most utility.

Also - none of the codes work on the crank option, at least not for me.
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Worked for me with the crank one. Select the second ThorFire and More (Without 'Fulfilled by Amazon'). Thanks OP.
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Thanks for the codes... I bought the solar and the hand-crank versions.
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I'm new to fakespot. What would be an equivalent hand crank option that doesn't have fake reviews? I guess I could do that buy searching on amazon and doing lots of fakespot checks...

Now I've got both the camel*3 & fakespot chrome extensions :-D

Its too bad that there are fake reviews on amazon. I used to love amazon reviews for the purpose of truly understanding a products pros/cons but now I'm frustrated. It seems the hand cranked option has the most utility.

Also - none of the codes work on the crank option, at least not for me.
I'm leery of fakespot. Not saying there aren't fake reviews on Amazon, as any place can have fake reviews, but fakespot is a stupid / one-dimensional way to measure Amazon products.

I think anyone who uses fakespot seriously is kind of stupid. It's Amazon, simple and risk free returns. Who cares if the reviews may not "verified purchaser"? As long as the product meets your needs, it should be fine. Also, sometimes people buy off other sources - CostCo, Best Buy, etc and go to Amazon to leave reviews. I haven't been burned by a bad Amazon purchase yet. If something was right it was easy return.

Fakespot is also way too superficial. It doesn't use in-depth algorithm to determine fake reviews, because it can't. It just looks as "verified purchases" vs none. A better way would be measure how many reviews were left by a single user over a period of time, and if that user had a high percentage of "verified purchases" or none, and how helpful the reviews were. Fakespot doesn't have access to that data easily so it just does the superficial thing and leaves it that. People who rely on Fakespot are superficial themselves. I always read reviews and make my own determination of whether a product is good or bad.
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Quote from cheap_bastid View Post :
I'm leery of fakespot. Not saying there aren't fake reviews on Amazon, as any place can have fake reviews, but fakespot is a stupid / one-dimensional way to measure Amazon products.

I think anyone who uses fakespot seriously are kind of stupid. It's Amazon, simple and risk free returns. Who cares if the reviews may not "verified purchaser"? As long as the product meets your needs, it should be fine. Also, sometimes people buy off other sources - CostCo, Best Buy, etc and go to Amazon to leave reviews. I haven't been burned by a bad Amazon purchase yet. If something was right it was easy return.
Not to mention Fakespot uses Artificial Intelligence algorithms which are way pre-matured. I may trust them, for a decision 2 years down the line not now. And again with Amazons free returns and great customer service you can put your money anyday.
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Not to mention Fakespot uses Artificial Intelligence algorithms which are way pre-matured. I may trust them, for a decision 2 years down the line not now. And again with Amazons free returns and great customer service you can put your money anyday.
Amen, Fakespot uses no artificial intelligence, just superficial algorithms that a 3rd grader might employ.
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Amen, Fakespot uses no artificial intelligence, just superficial algorithms that a 3rd grader might employ.
thanks for the tips! Time to remove my short lived fakespot chrome extension :-D
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Quote from backpacker2004 View Post :
I'm new to fakespot. What would be an equivalent hand crank option that doesn't have fake reviews? I guess I could do that buy searching on amazon and doing lots of fakespot checks...

Now I've got both the camel*3 & fakespot chrome extensions :-D

Its too bad that there are fake reviews on amazon. I used to love amazon reviews for the purpose of truly understanding a products pros/cons but now I'm frustrated. It seems the hand cranked option has the most utility.

Also - none of the codes work on the crank option, at least not for me.
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fakespot is a stupid / one-dimensional way to measure Amazon products.

I think anyone who uses fakespot seriously is kind of stupid. It's Amazon, simple and risk free returns. Who cares if the reviews may not "verified purchaser"? .

Fakespot is also way too superficial. It doesn't use in-depth algorithm to determine fake reviews, because it can't. It just looks as "verified purchases" vs none. A better way would be measure how many reviews were left by a single user over a period of time, and if that user had a high percentage of "verified purchases" or none, and how helpful the reviews were. Fakespot doesn't have access to that data easily so it just does the superficial thing and leaves it that. People who rely on Fakespot are superficial themselves. I always read reviews and make my own determination of whether a product is good or bad.
Well, as the first guy in this thread to offer a fairly ringing endorsement of the handcrank version of the Thorfire lantern, I think Fakespot is a useful tool. This in spite of the fact that Fakespot gives it an "F" rating.

Oddly, I don't consider myself to be "seriously kind of stupid" or particularly "superficial". I guess the first thing morons like me recognize is that Fakespot does not evaluate the actual worthiness of the product itself, only the authenticity of the Amazon reviews for that product.

I'm not sure what possessed cheap_bastid to declare Fakespot one dimensional and that it only looks at verified purchases versus none. Because that statement is simply not true. It also implies that a product offered to a rater at a discount in exchange for their "fair and unbiased opinion" (hah!) somehow can't also be a 'Amazon Verified Purchase', which also is patently incorrect.

Fakespot primarily analyzes the language used by the product raters. It looks for and develops profile clusters, conducts sentiment analysis and correlates that linguistic analysis not just across all the reviews for a particular product, but across the body of prior reviews posted by each of the Amazon raters and looks at the kinds of products they've reviewed in the past. It even searches for patterns in which particular manufacturers they seem to be focusing their ratings on. (Hint: manufacturers like to keep coming back to the same product raters who gave them positive reviews in the past).

In the absence of direct product experience, or an in-depth review from a trustworthy source, Fakespot at least helps a consumer evaluate the credibility of the product's Amazon user ratings. Just understand a Fakespot analysis offers no direct insight on the merits of the product itself. Even an idiot can give a glowing review of something that happens to really be an excellent product. But for the most ignorant of reasons.

FWIW, I would rate the handcrank version of the Thorfire lantern fairly high, based on my personal experience owning and actually using it for overnight camping. Other camping lanterns in my stable include the Black Diamond Apollo, Joby Switchback and the Brunton Polaris, so I kind of feel like maybe I understand quality outdoor lighting products.

I bought the Thorfire handcrank because of a similar deal post here on SD. With the discount code it was worth a shot and it's certainly turned out to have been an excellent value for me. But at the time, I didn't know Thorfire lanterns from Osung dental instruments. I didn't know about Fakespot back then either, or else I probably wouldn't have risked it. Now with personal experience with one of their other products, I'm more confident acting on the current Thorfire deal in spite of the Fakespot's poor user review rating. .

But I would never call anyone who only had Fakespot to rely on to be "seriously kind of stupid", or "superficial" for passing on this deal. Especially if I clearly knew nothing about how Fakespot actually works.
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Well, as the first guy in this thread to offer a fairly ringing endorsement of the handcrank version of the Thorfire lantern, I think Fakespot is a useful tool. This in spite of the fact that Fakespot gives it an "F" rating.

Oddly, I don't consider myself to be "seriously kind of stupid" or particularly "superficial". I guess the first thing morons like me recognize is that Fakespot does not evaluate the actual worthiness of the product itself, only the authenticity of the Amazon reviews for that product.

I'm not sure what possessed cheap_bastid to declare Fakespot one dimensional and that it only looks at verified purchases versus none. Because that statement is simply not true. It also implies that a product offered to a rater at a discount in exchange for their "fair and unbiased opinion" (hah!) somehow can't also be a 'Amazon Verified Purchase', which also is patently incorrect.

Fakespot primarily analyzes the language used by the product raters. It looks for and develops profile clusters, conducts sentiment analysis and correlates that linguistic analysis not just across all the reviews for a particular product, but across the body of prior reviews posted by each of the Amazon raters and looks at the kinds of products they've reviewed in the past. It even searches for patterns in which particular manufacturers they seem to be focusing their ratings on. (Hint: manufacturers like to keep coming back to the same product raters who gave them positive reviews in the past).

In the absence of direct product experience, or an in-depth review from a trustworthy source, Fakespot at least helps a consumer evaluate the credibility of the product's Amazon user ratings. Just understand a Fakespot analysis offers no direct insight on the merits of the product itself. Even an idiot can give a glowing review of something that happens to really be an excellent product. But for the most ignorant of reasons.

FWIW, I would rate the handcrank version of the Thorfire lantern fairly high, based on my personal experience owning and actually using it for overnight camping. Other camping lanterns in my stable include the Black Diamond Apollo, Joby Switchback and the Brunton Polaris, so I kind of feel like maybe I understand quality outdoor lighting products.

I bought the Thorfire handcrank because of a similar deal post here on SD. With the discount code it was worth a shot and it's certainly turned out to have been an excellent value for me. But at the time, I didn't know Thorfire lanterns from Osung dental instruments. I didn't know about Fakespot back then either, or else I probably wouldn't have risked it. Now with personal experience with one of their other products, I'm more confident acting on the current Thorfire deal in spite of the Fakespot's poor user review rating. .

But I would never call anyone who only had Fakespot to rely on to be "seriously kind of stupid", or "superficial" for passing on this deal. Especially if I clearly knew nothing about how Fakespot actually works.
wow, what you wrote clearly surpasses the level of scrutiny that fakespot uses, for damn sure.

I doubt fakespot has the type of scrutiny you speak of. These are reviews, by ordinary people with not so great grammar. I doubt fakespot goes to any great length to scrutinize the reviews to make any sort of grammatical judgement. It uses typical big data analysis, which is fairly limited in scope or use. It doesn't do any sort of relational analysis of the posters per se, just superficial word counts to impress people with simple word cloud charts.

So nice conjecturing, but most likely wrong. It would be nice if you operated something like fakespot because it would be a lot better than what it currently is. The hype around fakespot is astonishing by people who spout it as if it's some sort of biblical reference. It clearly is a clickbait operation instead of any serious artificial intelligence or research operation.
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