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400GB OCZ Deneva 2 R Series 2.5" SSD *RFB* $72AC@Newegg 480GB Intrepid 3700 eMLC $82AC

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Is it too much to ask what "refurbished" means? Based on the reviews of "refurbished" SSDs, that I've read, it may just mean that the controller TRIM support has been modified to identify and permanently exclude most-used (and most-likely to fail) segments.
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These are not manufacturer refurbs, they are 3rd party refurbs. There are quite a few reviews where after updating the firmware the drive has a lot of SMART errors and the drive health is poor. Looks like a good deal but the bad reviews scared me away...
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Quote from armygreen View Post :
Is it too much to ask what "refurbished" means? Based on the reviews of "refurbished" SSDs, that I've read, it may just mean that the controller TRIM support has been modified to identify and permanently exclude most-used (and most-likely to fail) segments.
likely to be server pulls, some with zero-use - lots of info in prev threads

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These are not manufacturer refurbs, they are 3rd party refurbs. There are quite a few reviews where after updating the firmware the drive has a lot of SMART errors and the drive health is poor. Looks like a good deal but the bad reviews scared me away...
these are NOT 3rd pty refurbs - as you can tell from the handful of duds, the response comes from OCZ support!
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Quote from armygreen View Post :
Is it too much to ask what "refurbished" means? Based on the reviews of "refurbished" SSDs, that I've read, it may just mean that the controller TRIM support has been modified to identify and permanently exclude most-used (and most-likely to fail) segments.
Refurbished used to indicate that someone had done something to repair a product and restore it to like new operation.

Its since been co-opted to mean "used and we basically did nothing other than a basic 'does it work' test".

One one hand, these drives are mediocre performers and not much cheaper than a mainstream brand new drive of the same size. On the other hand, even though its used it'd probably last 5 years. As would the new drive that'd have a long warranty.

If you have a specific need for drives with nand that can take a write pounding, maintain data integrity in a power failure, etc...then these are an ok deal. Get a box full and make a raid array.

However I think most people would be well served by grabbing a $90-100 480-512GB new drive with decent performance characteristics.

The "refurb' BS, especially in drives annoys the heck out of me. In some cases they wipe the drive smart data to make it look new, which wipes out the bad sector tables. Very no bueno.
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I got one of the Deneva 2 drives the last time this deal came around.

The Deneva 2 line has been discontinued after Toshiba bought OCZ, along with some other models, as they are realigning the OCZ/Toshiba brands. The Intrepid series is listed as a "legacy" product that Toshiba will continue to support, whereas the Deneva 2 line is just plain gone from their website entirely.

The Deneva 2 drive that I got no problems whatsoever. SMART status showed zero hours of use, no retired blocks, etc. Firmware was fairly old, but updated with no issues, and it's been a great SSD.

Given all of that, I highly suspect these are not refurbs in the traditional sense, but rather are old stock of their discontinued models that they are getting rid of. The Deneva 2 isn't even liste

It may not be as smoking fast as a Samsung pro or evo in benchmarks, but honestly I can't tell any difference in user experience.

SSD's, much like HDD's, tend to fail fast if they are going to fail at all. Update the firmware, do FULL FORMAT (not a quick format), and then monitor SMART status carefully for the first week to a month. Generally speaking, if you are going to see problems, they will start to present themselves by that time, barring some type of physical damage or other misuse. I might stress test a HDD, but not really necessary with a ssd. If no issues after that, chances are you'll have a good drive for a long time.

So, I highly recommend the Deneva 2. It should last a decade, probably more, for a desktop user, and I've been very happy with it. The Intrepid's write speeds were enough to scare me off, but it's probably also more than cromulent for most people.
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