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Online car audio/video/alarm/installation help for SD members

BayArea 487 August 11, 2008 at 03:00 PM
I can offer you advise on any purchases you are about to make, what to look for, whats good/not good, and any problems you have that you need to troubleshoot.

My father has been in the business for decades and myself for many years, so this is our expertise. We are an award winning car audio speciality shop, and we take alot of pride in our work. Fiberglass is also something I/we specialize in, so shoot your questions!

Ive helped countless amount of SDers with their questions about purchases and what to look for when buying and installing these sorts of things, as it sometimes becomes overwhelming to any one that's not car savvyBig Grin

Things that you might have trouble with that I can help include : In dash decks, in dash navigation systems, ipod and bluetooth integration,alarms, mobile video, amplifiers, speakers and components, signal processors, subwoofers, boxes, wiring, power caps, installation kits, and installation.


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Please remember to input the following descriptions when asking for advise about a future purchase

Vehicle- Year, make, model
Parts purchased/considering- model numbers of the parts
Goal- what are you looking for (that way i know the part your buying will fulfill your needs)

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For troubleshooting:

-Year/make/model of vehicle
-Problem (bass stop working, amp clipping, etc...)
-Weird noises or lights(ex. red light on amplifier, error message on stereo, etc...)

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As a employee at a shop that is an authorized dealer for many brands, im familiar with most if not all models out there. If you have a question about any single one, just ask!

Remember: Always buy from an AUTHORIZED dealer!

Frequently Asked Questions:

How do I know the seller is an Authorized Dealer?
All you have to do is visit the website of the product you are planning on purchasing and there will be a tab named Dealer Locator. All you do is click on that and enter your zip code and it will list all authorized dealers in a certain mileage radius.

How do I know what will fit my car?
Simply ask me what your car is and I can tell you what size speakers, radio, etc... will fit. Remember, the cool thing about car audio is customizing something that didn't come from the factory. We can make your car special and outfitted to fit your needs!

Im not looking to spend too much, can I have a decent sound system on a budget?
You sure can, ask me what your looking for and im sure I can whip up a system for you that will fit your budget. Good sound doesnt require you to spend good money Wink

*BayArea will not be held liable for any damage that results from improper installation or use of tools. I am only giving advice to help slickdealers get started on their car audio systems and to point them in the right direction.

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Hey,
Let me give you some advice on your system.

First of all, Polk makes great speakers, so that system you chose is not a bad choice.

The deck is more on the simpler lower end side, but since your still young and dont have too much money, that will work. You get ipod controls via usb, enough outputs for multiple amplifiers and a remote control. It might not be the prettiest deck out, but it will do the job.

The amp is very small. It has 65wx2 rms. That means together you will only get 130watts rms (real power). Thats not enough for even entry level subs, so you might want to look at something else with more power. Which brings me to my next point, I dont see a subwoofer and box in your system? Without one, forget havving good bass. Your component set is made to give you good, clear highs, not bass. The mid on your component is their to pick up the lows that bigger woofers cant, but it wont do the job of giving you solid bass. You absoluetly need a subwoofer to get what you want.

The amp wiring kit is extremely thin. Why go 10gauge? I would go at least 8 gauge that way if you ever do upgrade to a bigger amp, you dont have to rewire your car.


If you plan on doing the installation yourself, that might not be a bad price for all that stuff. The amp is sort of a cheap brand, but it'll work. If you plan on getting it professionally installed, you might want to check out your local stores. Sometimes they give huge discounts on installation if you buy the prodcut from them. Many times that comes out to be cheaper than buying it from one place and getting it installed at another. Also, walking into a local store, you might be able to negotiate. If you walked in and told them you have $500 to spend for example, im sure they can do something that way they dont lose the sale.

Let me know if you have any other questions
First of all, thanks so much for your help.

Right now I have a completely stock speaker system, which I'm almost positive has no amp. I know that amp is small, but I never even turn the system up to max volume as it is now. I guess my question about that is, with the amp/speaker's I chose, will it be as loud/louder then my current system?

About the bass. Right now, I'm not completely satisfied with the bass. However, in my parents car, a toyota prius with stock everything, I'm 100% happy with how it sounds. I'm under the assumption is doesn't have a sub, so will I be able to get equivalent bass (equivalent to the stock system of the prius or pretty much any new car) with the component speakers I chose? OR are the component speakers specifically designed for mids/highs and pretty much have to be used with a sub?

I guess you're right, I'll spend a little extra and get the 8 gauge. Is pretty much any brand wiring kit good enough?

I'll be sure to check out some local stores before I place the order, too.
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First of all, thanks so much for your help.

Right now I have a completely stock speaker system, which I'm almost positive has no amp. I know that amp is small, but I never even turn the system up to max volume as it is now. I guess my question about that is, with the amp/speaker's I chose, will it be as loud/louder then my current system?

About the bass. Right now, I'm not completely satisfied with the bass. However, in my parents car, a toyota prius with stock everything, I'm 100% happy with how it sounds. I'm under the assumption is doesn't have a sub, so will I be able to get equivalent bass (equivalent to the stock system of the prius or pretty much any new car) with the component speakers I chose? OR are the component speakers specifically designed for mids/highs and pretty much have to be used with a sub?

I guess you're right, I'll spend a little extra and get the 8 gauge. Is pretty much any brand wiring kit good enough?

I'll be sure to check out some local stores before I place the order, too.
Hey,
Yes the new system will for sure be louder than your stock system, but might not give you exactly what you want.

With alot of the new cars, the manufacturer includes a factory sub in the vehicle. You might not see it because they enclose them somewhere in the car thats not visible withou removing panels.

Let me tell you how i would go about this. Run the components to the deck. Put the amp on bridged to a single subwoofer in a sealed enclosure. I would go with a Rockford Fosgate Punch P1 or an Alpine Type E 10". Those are good, reliable, name brand entry level subs with a good price tag. That should get you what you want.
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How about this one for size Smilie

2004 H1 Hummer (Humvee). I would assume for the most part electricals are stock GM-ish stuff. Its a diesel, and i'm looking to install a viper remote start (for these hellish summers we've got in arizona).

Do you think its going to be a major pita to install?
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How about this one for size Smilie

2004 H1 Hummer (Humvee). I would assume for the most part electricals are stock GM-ish stuff. Its a diesel, and i'm looking to install a viper remote start (for these hellish summers we've got in arizona).

Do you think its going to be a major pita to install?
The Viper 791 and the Viper 5900 are popular choices when it comes to installing remote start systems+alarm system on those vehicles. If your looking JUST for remote start, the 5500 would work.Smilie

And yes, those are a pain to do because if you want to do keyless entry, you have to use a module to bypass the chips in the key. I say leave it to the professionals for something like this.
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hey bayareaa,
how you doing man. finally i got my system installed 2 15 kicker cvr's,zx750.1 and jl audio 4 gauge wiring.

my question is how much do you regularly charge for
1. amp installation
2.line output convertor
3. jl audio 4 gauge amp kit
4. 2 rca's

i just want to know if i got a good deal or not.
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hey bayareaa,
how you doing man. finally i got my system installed 2 15 kicker cvr's,zx750.1 and jl audio 4 gauge wiring.

my question is how much do you regularly charge for
1. amp installation
2.line output convertor
3. jl audio 4 gauge amp kit
4. 2 rca's

i just want to know if i got a good deal or not.
Hey,
Amp installation runs between $65-150 depending on the car for most cars (not including lamborghinis,ferraris,porches,bentleys etc..)

There are different types of line output converter, but usually between $20 for a basic one -$65 for a more advanced one.

I dont deal with JL audio, but a good 4gauge wiring kit should be around $85 and up.

Also depending on the RCAs. The generic ones go for about 10-15 bucks a piece whereas good ones go anywhere from $25-65.

What did you pay?
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Hey,
Yes the new system will for sure be louder than your stock system, but might not give you exactly what you want.

With alot of the new cars, the manufacturer includes a factory sub in the vehicle. You might not see it because they enclose them somewhere in the car thats not visible withou removing panels.

Let me tell you how i would go about this. Run the components to the deck. Put the amp on bridged to a single subwoofer in a sealed enclosure. I would go with a Rockford Fosgate Punch P1 or an Alpine Type E 10". Those are good, reliable, name brand entry level subs with a good price tag. That should get you what you want.
So your saying skip the amp all together for the speakers the use that amp to power a sub instead? Are the speakers still going to be loud enough?

Edit: Also, what do you think about this amp instead of the old one?

New: http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Pr...92&tp=5684

Old: http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Pr...UB&tp=5684

It seems like it has a little more power for not that much more money, and pretty much the same amount of features as the old one.
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So your saying skip the amp all together for the speakers the use that amp to power a sub instead? Are the speakers still going to be loud enough?

Edit: Also, what do you think about this amp instead of the old one?

New: http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Pr...92&tp=5684

Old: http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Pr...UB&tp=5684

It seems like it has a little more power for not that much more money, and pretty much the same amount of features as the old one.
Hey,
What you showed me were decks, not amplifiers.
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Hey,
What you showed me were decks, not amplifiers.
Oh, I meant to put decks.
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Oh, I meant to put decks.
Hey,
That deck does have about 8 watts rms per channel more than the Pioneer. It wont make too much difference, but if 5 bucks doesnt matter to you i'd say go for it.
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Hey,
That deck does have about 8 watts rms per channel more than the Pioneer. It wont make too much difference, but if 5 bucks doesnt matter to you i'd say go for it.
Ok so I think I'll go with the second deck. But are you saying just run the components straight to the deck and skip the amp all together? If so, how would I do that?
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Ok so I think I'll go with the second deck. But are you saying just run the components straight to the deck and skip the amp all together? If so, how would I do that?
Hey,
Run the components straight to deck (which has a built in amplifier) and use the external amp you were going to buy to run a subwoofer in a enclosure.
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Hey,
Run the components straight to deck (which has a built in amplifier) and use the external amp you were going to buy to run a subwoofer in a enclosure.
Ok, now my question is how is all that going to be wired up? From what I can tell, the deck only has RCA outputs yet I need it to be speaker wire going into the component system. Is there an adapter or something I need to use? Sorry for all these questions, I've never done anything like this before.
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Ok, now my question is how is all that going to be wired up? From what I can tell, the deck only has RCA outputs yet I need it to be speaker wire going into the component system. Is there an adapter or something I need to use? Sorry for all these questions, I've never done anything like this before.
Hey,
All you have to do is when you remove the original speaker is to cut the 2 wires (positive and negative) and splice them and wire them into the speaker connections on the speaker.

Use RCA's for the amplifier.
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Hey,
Amp installation runs between $65-150 depending on the car for most cars (not including lamborghinis,ferraris,porches,bentleys etc..)

There are different types of line output converter, but usually between $20 for a basic one -$65 for a more advanced one.

I dont deal with JL audio, but a good 4gauge wiring kit should be around $85 and up.

Also depending on the RCAs. The generic ones go for about 10-15 bucks a piece whereas good ones go anywhere from $25-65.

What did you pay?
paid $200. and i have a 2004 malibu. forgot to get my capacitor installed. can i do it myself.
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