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B&H Photo Video [bhphotovideo.com] has 12" Apple Macbook (Early 2015, Space Gray) + Parallels Desktop 11 for $999 + Free Shipping
  • 1.3 GHz Intel Core M (Broadwell)
  • 8GB of 1600 MHz LPDDR3 RAM
  • 256GB PCIe-Based Flash Storage
  • Integrated Intel HD Graphics 5300
  • 12" LED-Backlit IPS Retina Display
  • 2304 x 1440 Native Resolution
  • USB-C Port
  • 802.11ac Wi-Fi, Bluetooth 4.0
  • Force Touch Trackpad
  • Mac OS X 10.10 or 10.11
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Anyone know how these MacBooks perform with programs like Photoshop & Premeire? I usually use an iMac but I need something portable for photo & video editing. Not sure if I would be better off with this or a MacBook Pro that doesn't have flash storage
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Anyone know how these MacBooks perform with programs like Photoshop & Premeire? I usually use an iMac but I need something portable for photo & video editing. Not sure if I would be better off with this or a MacBook Pro that doesn't have flash storage
This is a low power processor so it's not ideal for Photoshop. However there's only one MBP without flash storage, which is the old MacBook Pro Non-Retina is from 2012 so it's 4-year old tech (which is almost ancient for computers). So I would definitely not recommend that.
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even with the lower price, it's hard to justify spending $999 on this when the newer model with the Intel HD 515 graphics is ~ 40% faster. that's a huge jump IMO
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Quote from alm723 View Post :
Anyone know how these MacBooks perform with programs like Photoshop & Premeire? I usually use an iMac but I need something portable for photo & video editing. Not sure if I would be better off with this or a MacBook Pro that doesn't have flash storage
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This is a low power processor so it's not ideal for Photoshop. However there's only one MBP without flash storage, which is the old MacBook Pro Non-Retina is from 2012 so it's 4-year old tech (which is almost ancient for computers). So I would definitely not recommend that.
Not really sure if I agree with that assessment. A 4 year old macbook Pro with no ssd could put the CPU around Sandy Bridge'ish era.

Sandy bridge i7 in the 13" pro (2 core)

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.p...40+2.70GHz

Sandy bridge i7 in the 15" pro (4 core)

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.p...40+2.20GHz

Core M in 2015 Macbook

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu....40+1.20GHz

The TLDR version is that basically the Core M in the Macbook sucks. It's a big part of why I would never buy a Macbook, and why most people who had high hopes at release also didn't. You pay a premium for a crappier keyboard with less travel and less tactile feedback, a way slower processor, and no useful ports.... but hey, if you ever wanted a rose gold laptop it's your dream come true.

Moore's law has slowed considerably esp. since Sandy Bridge. i don't even upgrade my desktop CPU that often. I used to do it with every generation, then I started skipping a generation, and it's to the point where whichever gen. i7 I'm on is more than fast enough for at least 2-3 years.

I can't say how the Core M would perform in PS or Premiere. I imagine general interacting would be fine, but anything CPU intensive like transcoding or filter crunching will take considerably longer.

If the Macbook Pro you're eye balling is a Sandy Bridge model with no flash, just go buy 480gb SSD for 100 bucks, done. No Brainer over a 2015 Macbook. Beautiful laptop yes, but it's 90% accessory and 10% function.
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Quote from alm723 View Post :
Anyone know how these MacBooks perform with programs like Photoshop & Premeire? I usually use an iMac but I need something portable for photo & video editing. Not sure if I would be better off with this or a MacBook Pro that doesn't have flash storage
final cut performs faster than equivalent windows running premier. photoshop, probably not!

Quote from johnthunderman View Post :
final cut performs faster than equivalent windows running premier. photoshop, probably not!
https://youtu.be/KnapaZYD2cU
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Not really sure if I agree with that assessment. A 4 year old macbook Pro with no ssd could put the CPU around Sandy Bridge'ish era.

Sandy bridge i7 in the 13" pro (2 core)

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.p...40+2.70GHz [cpubenchmark.net]

Sandy bridge i7 in the 15" pro (4 core)

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.p...40+2.20GHz [cpubenchmark.net]

Core M in 2015 Macbook

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu....40+1.20GHz [cpubenchmark.net]

The TLDR version is that basically the Core M in the Macbook sucks. It's a big part of why I would never buy a Macbook, and why most people who had high hopes at release also didn't. You pay a premium for a crappier keyboard with less travel and less tactile feedback, a way slower processor, and no useful ports.... but hey, if you ever wanted a rose gold laptop it's your dream come true.

Moore's law has slowed considerably esp. since Sandy Bridge. i don't even upgrade my desktop CPU that often. I used to do it with every generation, then I started skipping a generation, and it's to the point where whichever gen. i7 I'm on is more than fast enough for at least 2-3 years.

I can't say how the Core M would perform in PS or Premiere. I imagine general interacting would be fine, but anything CPU intensive like transcoding or filter crunching will take considerably longer.

If the Macbook Pro you're eye balling is a Sandy Bridge model with no flash, just go buy 480gb SSD for 100 bucks, done. No Brainer over a 2015 Macbook. Beautiful laptop yes, but it's 90% accessory and 10% function.
thanks op
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This is a low power processor so it's not ideal for Photoshop. However there's only one MBP without flash storage, which is the old MacBook Pro Non-Retina is from 2012 so it's 4-year old tech (which is almost ancient for computers). So I would definitely not recommend that.
I was talking about the lowest level MBP on the Apple website.

13-inch (non-Retina)
2.5GHz dual-core Intel Core i5
4GB 1600MHz memory
500GB 5400-rpm hard drive1
Intel HD Graphics 4000

Is that seriously the 2012 version?
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Quote from wuss View Post :
Not really sure if I agree with that assessment. A 4 year old macbook Pro with no ssd could put the CPU around Sandy Bridge'ish era.

Sandy bridge i7 in the 13" pro (2 core)

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.p...40+2.70GHz

Sandy bridge i7 in the 15" pro (4 core)

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.p...40+2.20GHz

Core M in 2015 Macbook

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu....40+1.20GHz

The TLDR version is that basically the Core M in the Macbook sucks. It's a big part of why I would never buy a Macbook, and why most people who had high hopes at release also didn't. You pay a premium for a crappier keyboard with less travel and less tactile feedback, a way slower processor, and no useful ports.... but hey, if you ever wanted a rose gold laptop it's your dream come true.

Moore's law has slowed considerably esp. since Sandy Bridge. i don't even upgrade my desktop CPU that often. I used to do it with every generation, then I started skipping a generation, and it's to the point where whichever gen. i7 I'm on is more than fast enough for at least 2-3 years.

I can't say how the Core M would perform in PS or Premiere. I imagine general interacting would be fine, but anything CPU intensive like transcoding or filter crunching will take considerably longer.

If the Macbook Pro you're eye balling is a Sandy Bridge model with no flash, just go buy 480gb SSD for 100 bucks, done. No Brainer over a 2015 Macbook. Beautiful laptop yes, but it's 90% accessory and 10% function.
PS has been getting a lot of OpenCL updates every year now. A lot of the heavier filters and effects are going to be run via the HD Graphics which should handle them pretty well. Premier isn't going to work that well since it requires A LOT of CPU for tasks that will be run.

The CPU is actually pretty decent. It's meant to be a boost-then-reduce setup to save energy (installing programs, starting programs, opening webpages, unzipping). As such Passmark is going to not really reflect how it performs in the real world since performance is tied down to thermals and battery. (IE any test that runs for more than a minute or two is going to start to show signs of fatigue, but 99.9% of the time this isn't going to be how a computer gets used).

Whats even worse for the Passmark aggregation is the Core-M's performance varies wildly depending on the manufacturer. If the design keeps the processor sufficiently cool (Apple and Asus seem to have done a pretty good job here) the Core-M can perform really well.

Keyboard still sucks, though.
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Quote from alm723 View Post :
I was talking about the lowest level MBP on the Apple website.

13-inch (non-Retina)
2.5GHz dual-core Intel Core i5
4GB 1600MHz memory
500GB 5400-rpm hard drive1
Intel HD Graphics 4000

Is that seriously the 2012 version?
Yes unfortunately it is! The nice thing about it is the RAM and drive are easily upgradeable (unlike current models that have the RAM soldered). But the price hasn't gone down enough to justify.

I can only think Apple still has this for the education market (where they sell directly to schools?).
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First post on slickdeals, so bear with me. I actually went ahead and bought one of these at this price, and am pretty happy with it. The thing that sold me is that the processor is the 1.3 GHz, which was the fastest of the last iteration. I know it's probably still overpriced, and think it would be a bargain at $700, but I'm still finding a lot of value here for my work, which only requires me to use an online medical record in a browser. I'm a psychiatric nurse practitioner, and I prefer to have the technology stay as out of the way as possible when interviewing clients, and this fits that bill.

I'm speaking as a self-professed long-time, and now recovering Apple fanboy, who now uses an Android phone, and builds his own PCs, so I'm comfortable in both ecosystems. The thing that's dawning on me is that most Windows fan-boys, are actually hardware fanboys or gamers, and I definitely fall into both categories. That said, for day to day use, OS X is still far more stable and user friendly in my experience, and it works well for my needs.

TLDR: For anything graphics intensive, look elsewhere, but for basic use, the processor feels perfectly fine, and it has ultra-fast NVME storage.
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If anybody is interested in this device- might I suggest you take a look at the open box selection at best buy.
I myself ended up getting the latest model of the 12" macbook core m3 model for 1060-150 coupon = 910 before taxes. (I had some personal gift cards that made this deal better, but I know that this isn't the case for everybody)

According to the apple support website and the applecare warranty period left, it was only used for 2 months when I got it.

Especially considering the faster performance that the latest model offers, this might be a better device choice for you.

I myself at the moment am very very torn between the 12" macbook and the xps 13.
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