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Computer build not working out

jordanb9095 555 88 August 5, 2016 at 06:43 AM
This is my first time putting a computer together. I have had help from a few friends that have more experience but I can't get it to turn on. here are the main parts:

Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor

ASRock H170M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard

Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory

Samsung 850 EVO-Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive

Apevia X-QPACK3-BL MicroATX Mini Tower Case

Logisys 480W ATX Power Supply


pcpartpicker.com says there shouldn't be any compatibility issues. can anyone offer any help? im lost at this point. i think i'll be trying to return the motherboard.

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This is my first time putting a computer together. I have had help from a few friends that have more experience but I can't get it to turn on. here are the main parts:

Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor

ASRock H170M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard

Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory

Samsung 850 EVO-Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive

Apevia X-QPACK3-BL MicroATX Mini Tower Case

Logisys 480W ATX Power Supply


pcpartpicker.com says there shouldn't be any compatibility issues. can anyone offer any help? im lost at this point. i think i'll be trying to return the motherboard.
What happens when you try to turn it on? Anything at all? Fans spinning, beeps beeping, lights blinking, anything?
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What happens when you try to turn it on? Anything at all? Fans spinning, beeps beeping, lights blinking, anything?
absolutely no power at all. can't get any lights on or any of the fans to start spinning. i've tested the power supply with a paper clip and it appears to be working (fan is spinning).
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Disconnect any cdrom/hd, remove a memory module. Leave only the bare necessities - cpu, 1 stick of ram, video card (if present). Ensure mainboard is not shorting out against the case.

If still no go, then likely bad board or bad memory. Rare to get a bad cpu. Possible power supply issue too. A $20 power supply doesn't exactly scream quality.
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In the first photo you have an 8 pin connector but only a 4 pin power plugged into it (Top Right). Thats your ATX 12V power, you need all 8 plugged in. Check page 11 and 12 of the manual. This is a more common mistake then you think. Many people forget it entirely. I will add almost never will you have a 4 pin power into an 8 pin slot or vise versa. The only thing I can think of when that happens is some GPU's require 6 pin but many power supplies are 8pin GPU power, they make it so the last 2 pins disconnect.

Personally I would buy a different power supply something that's much higher quality. You essentially have a cheap generic PS. expect future problems. Here is a review of what you bought.
http://www.overclockers.com/logis...x2-review/

"All told, the PS480X2 did far better than expected, but still falls well short of an approved badge. It’s almost into “Meh” territory, but the complete mismatch of the ratings and reality, plus the >200 mV of ripple on the 3.3 V rail, land this unit in the Fail category. I strongly recommend paying the extra few bucks to get a known good power supply, you’d be mighty unhappy if your attempt to save <$30 cost you hundreds of dollars in ripple-fried equipment."
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^^Good eye. I didn't even look at the pics, just assumed all appropriate power connections were made (there's only 2 - main mobo connector and the 8 pin).
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In the first photo you have an 8 pin connector but only a 4 pin power plugged into it (Top Right). Thats your ATX 12V power, you need all 8 plugged in. Check page 11 and 12 of the manual. This is a more common mistake then you think. Many people forget it entirely. I will add almost never will you have a 4 pin power into an 8 pin slot or vise versa. The only thing I can think of when that happens is some GPU's require 6 pin but many power supplies are 8pin GPU power, they make it so the last 2 pins disconnect.

Personally I would buy a different power supply something that's much higher quality. You essentially have a cheap generic PS. expect future problems. Here is a review of what you bought.
http://www.overclockers.com/logis...x2-review/

"All told, the PS480X2 did far better than expected, but still falls well short of an approved badge. It's almost into "Meh" territory, but the complete mismatch of the ratings and reality, plus the >200 mV of ripple on the 3.3 V rail, land this unit in the Fail category. I strongly recommend paying the extra few bucks to get a known good power supply, you'd be mighty unhappy if your attempt to save <$30 cost you hundreds of dollars in ripple-fried equipment."
Yea the manual says I can use a 4 pin connector but that might be the problem. I know it's cheap but I didn't think it was that important to spend a lot on. I'm going to see if I can get a better one locally.
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Yea the manual says I can use a 4 pin connector but that might be the problem. I know it's cheap but I didn't think it was that important to spend a lot on. I'm going to see if I can get a better one locally.
PSU is the real engine of the pc. i learned this the hard way through failed harddrives. if you don't have good clean power, it stresses everything. i wouldn't go overboard and buy a 200 platinum rated one or anything. but something by a major vendor that has sufficient good reviews.
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Yea the manual says I can use a 4 pin connector but that might be the problem. I know it's cheap but I didn't think it was that important to spend a lot on. I'm going to see if I can get a better one locally.
What pages says that? The manual I found online did not say that. Link would be nice. I also know of no motherboard that allows this. The 8pin is for the CPU, the big 20pin is for the motherboard and all it's power so the PCIE slots etc.

Price isn't always a good determination of quality but ya you want a quality PSU and it generally pays for itself in the long run. Poor quality PSU's have all types of problems. What you have will work for now (Assuming it has an 8pin connector) but if funds allow replace it sooner than later.
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less likely theory, the power button broke, short it manually or switch with reset button
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What pages says that? The manual I found online did not say that. Link would be nice. I also know of no motherboard that allows this. The 8pin is for the CPU, the big 20pin is for the motherboard and all it's power so the PCIE slots etc.

Price isn't always a good determination of quality but ya you want a quality PSU and it generally pays for itself in the long run. Poor quality PSU's have all types of problems. What you have will work for now (Assuming it has an 8pin connector) but if funds allow replace it sooner than later.
i dont have a link but i took a picture of my manual. its on page 22.

i bought an antec power supply from staples and that doesnt seem to work either so i guess its the motherboard.
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You would have to try out left4deals advice. Try to shorting out the mobo.
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thanks for all the tips. i have replaced the power supply with an antec 450w one from staples. i also drove all the way back to microcenter today and exchanged the motherboard for a new one. i put everything together and it still wont power on. i'll investigate and troubleshoot some more. i guess the only thing left would be the case at this point....
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less likely theory, the power button broke, short it manually or switch with reset button
Iagree If the power switch is the problem, swap it for the reset switch and see if that works. Also, be absolutely certain to double-check how you've connected the front panel switches to the motherboard. It's REALLY easy to have a loose connection or miss one or be off by just one pin.
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Iagree If the power switch is the problem, swap it for the reset switch and see if that works. Also, be absolutely certain to double-check how you've connected the front panel switches to the motherboard. It's REALLY easy to have a loose connection or miss one or be off by just one pin.
i tried all of that. i've noticed that if i take the battery out i can get the the power LED to flicker on the case for a few seconds before turning off but that is about the only sign of power i can get.
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