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NVR or Blue Iris?

bcotran 297 46 August 11, 2016 at 07:22 AM
Second time writing this because the site went down as I clicked submit thread... going to copy what I've wrote this time in case it happens again.

SO I am tasked with setting up some cameras at one of our buildings. We are looking to install about 20-25 cameras and I'm trying to figure out the best way to handle this.

Currently in the same building (but a different side) I have set up a blue-iris system that works flawlessly. Its been running for a year with no issues. I've used 3mp EYEsurv cameras which are a re-badged dahua. There are 7 cameras loaded currently and the i7 system runs at about 25% load 24/7.

I don't believe this system could hold 32 cameras. So I'm looking to either set up a new system. I'm debating on purchasing an NVR or setting up another blue-iris system.

I'm leaning towards blue iris, I'm comfortable with it and it works great. However we dont use many of the features, i just group up cameras and set them to record on motion and they all get stored on a secondary hard drive. I don't know if an i7 machine will be able to run 20-25 cameras on blue iris(Anyone out there have experience?). Although I could split the cameras up between the two systems, making them each have about 16 cameras. I think this would work fine it would just put a little more traffic on my connecting switch. I also know the nvr would be quicker to setup, as its pre-configured and I just need to add the cameras to it.

Currently we have employees that have the blue-iris software on their phone. My boss loves it, he can easily view them from anywhere in the world. If i go with blue-iris I can easily set that system up to their phones and they're good to go. I'm sure whatever NVR I buy will have this same functionality.

I really just want the most reliability. I work at another place that has 'professionally installed' DVR's that seem to crap out all the time(usually camera connection/recording issues). I don't want that to happen, This system will be monitoring a business setting and I wont be around this install often and it needs to stay up. Also, it is a drive for me to get there.

If I go with the NVR, In theory I could even get rid of the other blue-iris system and combine them all into one. I dont know if that would be better or worse... i like the idea of having the different areas on different systems but if I end up having to combine them to be 16 cameras each then it wouldn't make much of a difference.

These are the NVRs I was looking at, I have mostly EYEsurv cameras. Although I just looked at Nelly's Security and it looks like they might be discontinuing their eyesurv camera line? So with this run I might go with Dahua or Hikvision. Not positive I just sent them an E-Mail.

http://www.nellyssecurity.com/rec...order.html
http://www.nellyssecurity.com/rec...meras.html

I'll spend the extra money on a DVR that actually works. I don't want junk that will cause me problems and cost me more in time fixing it..

I think I got it all there. What do you guys think? NVR or Dedicated PC with blue iris? please explain which you believe would be the best, and if you go with NVR do you have any suggestions for good hardware?

Thanks in advance for everyones input.

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Blue Iris running on an i7/Xeon system with plenty of RAM. Incredibly reliable. nod
NVR = not so flexible, nor so reliable. shake head
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Go with Blue Iris. It works perfectly and smoothly that I've seen so far.
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Another vote for Blue Iris. My system is rock solid except when the power flickers (need to get a UPS). I'd also recommend IP cameras for maximum flexibility in the future.
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7x3mp cameras should not run at 25percent on a modern i7 (haswell/skylake)...make sure you are using intel hd (no discrete card) and hardware acceleration is enabled (no vpp).
Buy a modern skylake i7-6700 and you will be fine for 20x3mp cams...dont put all the cams on one system. You will be sorely disappointed with the function of NVR's mobile app compared to BI.
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Thanks guys, Ill be setting up another blue iris setup.

Fenderman: Ive set it up to best practices... direct to disk- 10fps, maybe a couple other things i forget. Why do you think 25% is high? It sits around 18-20 when they arent recording, goes up to about 25 when recording.
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Thanks guys, Ill be setting up another blue iris setup.

Fenderman: Ive set it up to best practices... direct to disk- 10fps, maybe a couple other things i forget. Why do you think 25% is high? It sits around 18-20 when they arent recording, goes up to about 25 when recording.
You havent said what i7 you are running....i can run 10 cameras about 27mp at 22 percent on an i7-4770 at 15fps...
Have you enabled hardware acceleration?
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I think its the 4770 at 3.4ghz. 8gb ram but it never seems to use over 1.5, ill check hardware acceleration but I don't know if its enabled or disabled
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I think its the 4770 at 3.4ghz. 8gb ram but it never seems to use over 1.5, ill check hardware acceleration but I don't know if its enabled or disabled
If you never enabled it, its disabled...dont use the vpp option..just standard hardware acceleration..note it only works with intel HD, so if you have a graphics card remove it for testing.
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