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Not a deal. PSA. TIVO Series 1 Lifetime Subscription to end on September 29th.

paddiewhack 39 14 August 16, 2016 at 07:12 PM in Tech & Electronics (3)
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#2
So much for that lifetime subscription lol 😁
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Lifetimes are getting shorter?
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#4
damn TIVO.... looks like lifetime doesn't mean lifetime anymore.
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#5
Hmm, I have a Toshiba Series 1 combo DVD+Tivo which came with lifetime basic service (3 day menu). I'll have to drag it out and see if it still works

EDIT: Well, it does work...but its a Series 2 Frown
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Quote from paddiewhack View Post :
Due to format changes? https://www.engadget.com/2016/08/...time-over/
I would suggest you putting in the (sort of) good news to go with the bad.


Quoted from the article you linked to:
For its part, TiVo says there are about 3,500 active Series1 DVRs still going, and it's offering owners a $75 prepaid Visa card. If that's not enough to make them happy, then they may not have much in the way of legal recourse, because, as ZatzNotFunny pointed out in 2013, the company changed its Terms of Service to include a class action/jury trial waiver and mandating arbitration, unless owners opted out within 90 days.

Once upon a time, owners could transfer their lifetime service to a newer box, but those days have passed. Series1 service in the US lasted about five years longer than it did in the UK, where service shut down in early 2011. Once September is over the box won't quite turn into a paperweight -- it will function but only in very basic ways for watching live TV or existing recordings, and navigating with just the channel up/down buttons. To create a new recording without guide data, owners would need to manually program the date, channel number and start/end time.

All of TiVo's newer hardware will be upgraded to work with the new data streams, although it is a reminder that any cloud-connected devices you own could be on the chopping block someday.
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#7
1. Entice buyers with promise of "lifetime" service
2. Quietly change ToS to prohibit class actions
3. End "lifetime" service
4. Profit??

Thank you SCOTUS for ATT v Concepcion, where companies can strip our litigation rights with a simple change in ToS.
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#8
$75 visa card, not too bad of a deal. Didn't lifetime service cost ~$99 or maybe $199 when these boxes were new? Not a bad ROI, considering all the years of service
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What's the power consumption on a Series 1 Tivo vs. a more modern equivalent?

Even with a lifetime Tivo, there's probably a point where it will be cheaper to consider the initial investment a sunk cost and move on to something newer/better/more efficient.
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I have a functioning series 2 lifetime. Now I'm wondering how long til they pull the plug it.
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That model was from way back when ReplayTV DVR was the other option. I remember seeing them in Target and Best Buy in 1999. Only 3500 of those Tivos in service? Not very many at all. I can't imagine what people would be able to use them for since the tuners are analog. No ATSC and only the small cable outfits still have an analog cable channel lineup.
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Quote from caddymac View Post :
What's the power consumption on a Series 1 Tivo vs. a more modern equivalent?

Even with a lifetime Tivo, there's probably a point where it will be cheaper to consider the initial investment a sunk cost and move on to something newer/better/more efficient.
It's a Tivo box, not a TV. We're talking maybe 25 cents a month more on the electric bill. The boxes were big back then which makes it seem like there's more guts inside. But it's still just a circuit board, a fan, and a hard drive. Hard drives have gotten a little more efficient in power use but it makes no sense to justify an upgrade based on that alone.
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It's a Tivo box, not a TV. We're talking maybe 25 cents a month more on the electric bill. The boxes were big back then which makes it seem like there's more guts inside. But it's still just a circuit board, a fan, and a hard drive. Hard drives have gotten a little more efficient in power use but it makes no sense to justify an upgrade based on that alone.
I did some crude math. Assume around 40W for a Series 1 (couldn't find actual values, used Series 2 instead) and around 14W for a base Roamio and $0.13/killowatt - works out to about $2.50/month more to run the original Tivo vs. a new one.

That works out to about $30/year, so over 10 years about $300 more to run an old Tivo vs. one 15+ years newer.
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