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Home theater audio help

GameOgre 306 37 August 25, 2016 at 01:30 PM
So, I now have my Hue, my Echo, and my Harmony remote for the home theater automation project but now I need help with the audio portion.
I have a Pioneer vsx-530-k 5.1 receiver with a center, a left, and a right speaker wired to it, no sub. Due to the way the house is built, running wire through the walls/attic is not a feasible solution, it can be done but it will be expensive and I would like to explore other options.

I'm looking for some sort of wireless solution here, so what do you Slickdealers suggest I do to get full 5.1 surround sound?

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Wires are much better than any of the wired options.

Find a pro who knows what they're doing and get an estimate, it may be far more reasonable than you expect. There are some pretty nice tools for pulling wires a pro is likely to have.
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Wires are much better than any of the wired options.

Find a pro who knows what they're doing and get an estimate, it may be far more reasonable than you expect. There are some pretty nice tools for pulling wires a pro is likely to have.
Already did, which is why I know it's very expensive.
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Already did, which is why I know it's very expensive.
An electrician or someone who specializes in low voltage wiring?
How much are we talking?


Wireless speaker options can get expensive too and many have latency issues.avsforum probably has a lot more discussion on this but here one: http://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-...akers.html
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An electrician or someone who specializes in low voltage wiring?
How much are we talking?


Wireless speaker options can get expensive too and many have latency issues.avsforum probably has a lot more discussion on this but here one: http://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-...akers.html
A company that specializes in home theater setups.
Was almost $600 to connect the two rear speakers, about $350 of which was just running the wire two lengths of around 20' each.
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There are lots of options depending on your setup. If you have can lights you can find wireless speakers that will screw into those... You can go wireless. You can just run wires under your carpet/rug... It just depends on what you are going for.

Knowing how often I use my surround sound (almost as often as I use the 3d feature on the TV) I wouldn't spend too much money on it.
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A company that specializes in home theater setups.
Was almost $600 to connect the two rear speakers, about $350 of which was just running the wire two lengths of around 20' each.

First off, in many cases, Home Theater companies and the like make money by ripping people off on equipment and installation so they are the worst people to go to imo if you are looking to save money. Call an electrician to run the wires. Unless there is something particularly difficult with running the wires (going through fire stops, multiple floors, etc.), 2 cable runs should not cost more than $200-250 dollars imo.

As to hooking up the rear speakers, it is a piece of cake once the wires are run unless you have in wall or in ceiling speakers. Connect one end of the wires to your receiver inputs, the other end to your speakers and mount the speakers using whatever hardware was provided to your wall. Then just run whatever speaker setup program your receiver has. No need to pay someone to do this for you in most cases.

As to wireless, in a word, don't. The sound is generally lousy, they are expensive and they still need to be powered. You are much better off just having the wires run by someone who knows how to do it.

My 2 cents.
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A company that specializes in home theater setups.
Was almost $600 to connect the two rear speakers, about $350 of which was just running the wire two lengths of around 20' each.
get something like this https://www.amazon.com/Electric-F...G9XKTSJHRC

Then push it from ceiling in home theater and look inside attic.i have my home theater above garage with no space in attic and electrician asked for 150-200 i said no and did it by myself. good luck... Smilie
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get something like this https://www.amazon.com/Electric-F...G9XKTSJHRC

Then push it from ceiling in home theater and look inside attic.i have my home theater above garage with no space in attic and electrician asked for 150-200 i said no and did it by myself. good luck... Smilie
I went simple and bought this: https://www.amazon.com/16323-Wire...000BVXVTA/

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Due to the way the house is built, running wire through the walls/attic is not a feasible solution, it can be done but it will be expensive and I would like to explore other options.
Tell us how the house is built. Slab foundation or crawl space? Do you rent or own?
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I pretty much said that going through the wall wasn't a feasible solution in the OP. I really don't understand why people keep ignoring that and continue telling me to go through the wall when that wasn't my question.
The reason I can't do a wall fish is because the wall the tv is on is also a kitchen wall that supports the microwave and a few other things.
There are cross members in between the studs to provide support for this.

I would have to use a flex bit and drill blind holes to get through them. Not really something I'm prepared to do at this point.

Anyway, I think I've found my solution so thank you everybody.
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I pretty much said that going through the wall wasn't a feasible solution in the OP. I really don't understand why people keep ignoring that and continue telling me to go through the wall when that wasn't my question.
The reason I can't do a wall fish is because the wall the tv is on is also a kitchen wall that supports the microwave and a few other things.
There are cross members in between the studs to provide support for this.

I would have to use a flex bit and drill blind holes to get through them. Not really something I'm prepared to do at this point.

Anyway, I think I've found my solution so thank you everybody.
It's pretty simple, running wires is the best option. Many people convince themselves running wires isn't possible or is too difficult when in many instances it isn't. We've learned to ask questions and challenge people's assumptions when they ask for help because they often don't account for everything. If it comes down to spending a few hundred dollars on various devices to facilitate wireless speakers, 9 times out of 10 that money is better spent getting someone who knows what they're doing to install wires. Also many people seem to be petrified of cutting a few holes in the drywall that have to get patched, a little hand holding and a good drywall guy go a long way.


In the link to AVS forum I posted earlier, someone suggests using some super thin flat wires that you can put on your walls and then paint or run under the carpet without lumps.


I hope whatever wireless solution you chose works well enough for you and didn't cost too much.
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Get that flat speaker wire/tape that can be stuck to the wall and painted.
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