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Samsung UN55K6250 Curved 55-Inch 1080P Smart LED TV (2016 Model)
$698.00 & FREE Shipping

This is the replacement model for the UN55J6300, arguably one of the best mid-range 1080p TVs ever. This model uses the same display technology, meaning 10 bit color and quad-core processor, but with Samsung's 2016 Tizen platform and with a curved screen. I'm undecided as to whether the curved screen is of any benefit, but the fact is that there is no flat model that replaces the J6300. Also, keep in mind that the K6250 has 3 HDMI inputs vs. the 4 inputs that the J6300 had (also 2 USB vs. 3). The J6300 is impossible to find anywhere, so if you're looking for excellent 1080p picture quality and a great smart app platform, this is probably your best bet.

Keep in mind that Samsung's 55" 4K TVs in the sub-$1000 range (KU6300 and KU7000) are really not great, they seem to have issues with judder and inexplicably only show 8 bit color, and definitely don't offer real HDR (see www.rtings.com for details). To me this makes the 1080p TVs much better than the 4K TVs, especially given the deal I just found on this one, the only caveat being if you really don't want a curved screen. The 4K models also only have 3 HDMI and 2 USB inputs.

$698 with free shipping is the lowest price I've seen for the UN55K6250 yet, and is currently significantly lower than any other online store. Others may pricematch, but I haven't tried. I just ordered mine last night.

Edit: Reviewed by rtings just yesterday: http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung/k6250
Not a favorable review, and they claim it's an 8 bit panel although I've seen it listed as 10 bit elsewhere.
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Samsung is head over heels for this curve gimmick and I don't get it. I'd gladly pay 100 dollars less for a normal flat panel with this sort of tech. Good deal so I gave you a thumbs up, but not interested in a machine that has handicapped viewing angles right out of the box.
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Samsung is head over heels for this curve gimmick and I don't get it. I'd gladly pay 100 dollars less for a normal flat panel with this sort of tech. Good deal so I gave you a thumbs up, but not interested in a machine that has handicapped viewing angles right out of the box.
It's not a gimmick. This is what someone with a Ph.D in Physics from Princeton who is a lot smarter than any of us says about curved TVs. And read his resume at the end. It's ridiculous.

Dr. Raymond M. Soneira
President, DisplayMate Technologies Corporation

Whether you prefer a curved or flat screen is primarily subjective, but the slightly curved screen does provide several important objective advantages:

First and foremost, the concave screen shape cuts down on reflections from surrounding ambient light two ways: by reducing the screen's 180 degree opening angle, which eliminates reflections from some ambient lighting on the sides, and also from specular (mirror) reflections off the concave screen, which directs some reflected ambient light from behind the viewers away from their line of sight. This is very important for a display technology that produces excellent dark image content and perfect blacks - because you don't want that spoiled by ambient light reflected off the screen.

The slight curvature reduces visual geometric distortion: When you watch a perfectly flat TV screen, the corners of the screen are further away than the center so they appear smaller. As a result, the eye doesn't see the screen as a perfect rectangle - it actually sees dual elongated trapezoids, which is keystone geometric distortion. The slight curvature on the LG OLED TV reduces this subtle keystone geometric distortion by 50 percent at a typical 8 foot (2.4 meter) viewing distance.

The slight curvature improves viewing from the sides away from the central sweet spot: A second and more subtle point: people sitting off to the sides away from the central sweet spot actually get a somewhat better viewing experience than with a flat screen because the curved screen accommodates their viewing direction better by compensating for some of the uneven image foreshortening that is seen with a flat screen: the image on the side of the screen closest to you appears larger, and the image on the side of the screen furthest away appears smaller. The inward curvature of the screen compresses the foreshortening of the image on the near side that appears larger, and the curvature on the far side enlarges the distant part of image that appears smaller, which improves the overall screen image geometry that is seen away from the central sweet spot.

Dr. Soneira's background covers a wide spectrum of internationally recognized leading edge research in electronics, optics, applied mathematics, theoretical and experimental physics. For example: he has designed color television broadcast equipment for the CBS Television Network, built a computer mathematical model of a television system for optimizing the camera to receiver performance and accuracy of the optics and electronics for CBS, a leader of a team at Bell Labs Research that built intelligent autonomous mobile robots, designed an all-electronic 360 degree viewing angle imaging laser range finder using the parallax principle, did the mathematical foundation of the fine guidance system for the Hubble Space Telescope, built the accepted standard model of the Milky Way Galaxy (which is named after him), built theoretical high redshift cosmological and stellar models for the Hubble Space Telescope, has done fundamental work on the analysis of clustering and super-clustering of galaxies, plus work in Relativity and nuclear physics.

http://www.displaymate.com/LG_OLE...tOut_1.htm
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Sounds like this doctor's research was based off an OLED set.
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It's not a gimmick. This is what someone with a Ph.D in Physics from Princeton who is a lot smarter than any of us says about curved TVs. And read his resume at the end. It's ridiculous.

Dr. Raymond M. Soneira
President, DisplayMate Technologies Corporation

Whether you prefer a curved or flat screen is primarily subjective, but the slightly curved screen does provide several important objective advantages:

First and foremost, the concave screen shape cuts down on reflections from surrounding ambient light two ways: by reducing the screen's 180 degree opening angle, which eliminates reflections from some ambient lighting on the sides, and also from specular (mirror) reflections off the concave screen, which directs some reflected ambient light from behind the viewers away from their line of sight. This is very important for a display technology that produces excellent dark image content and perfect blacks - because you don't want that spoiled by ambient light reflected off the screen.

The slight curvature reduces visual geometric distortion: When you watch a perfectly flat TV screen, the corners of the screen are further away than the center so they appear smaller. As a result, the eye doesn't see the screen as a perfect rectangle - it actually sees dual elongated trapezoids, which is keystone geometric distortion. The slight curvature on the LG OLED TV reduces this subtle keystone geometric distortion by 50 percent at a typical 8 foot (2.4 meter) viewing distance.

The slight curvature improves viewing from the sides away from the central sweet spot: A second and more subtle point: people sitting off to the sides away from the central sweet spot actually get a somewhat better viewing experience than with a flat screen because the curved screen accommodates their viewing direction better by compensating for some of the uneven image foreshortening that is seen with a flat screen: the image on the side of the screen closest to you appears larger, and the image on the side of the screen furthest away appears smaller. The inward curvature of the screen compresses the foreshortening of the image on the near side that appears larger, and the curvature on the far side enlarges the distant part of image that appears smaller, which improves the overall screen image geometry that is seen away from the central sweet spot.

Dr. Soneira's background covers a wide spectrum of internationally recognized leading edge research in electronics, optics, applied mathematics, theoretical and experimental physics. For example: he has designed color television broadcast equipment for the CBS Television Network, built a computer mathematical model of a television system for optimizing the camera to receiver performance and accuracy of the optics and electronics for CBS, a leader of a team at Bell Labs Research that built intelligent autonomous mobile robots, designed an all-electronic 360 degree viewing angle imaging laser range finder using the parallax principle, did the mathematical foundation of the fine guidance system for the Hubble Space Telescope, built the accepted standard model of the Milky Way Galaxy (which is named after him), built theoretical high redshift cosmological and stellar models for the Hubble Space Telescope, has done fundamental work on the analysis of clustering and super-clustering of galaxies, plus work in Relativity and nuclear physics.

http://www.displaymate.com/LG_OLE...tOut_1.htm [displaymate.com]
That's interesting, I actually follow this guy's work and did not know that about curved monitors. Thanks for the link.
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I like my tvs curvy. Just wait till you feel one.
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Hey guys, this is definitely just my opinion, but at this price, a 55" 1080p set is just not worth it. As to OP's claim that the j6300 series was one of the best ever, well that is correct, but was mostly because it had a true 120hz panel. This set, being the j6300 "replacement" does not, just has a regular 'ol 60hz set. 120hz can be important because it is associated with better image quality via less motion blur for fast movement (sports and video games) as well as reduced or non-existant judder for 24p sources (movies on dvd or bluray). If you really truly want to blow some dough on a 1080p tv, my suggestion is to go for the j6200 series, which was actually considered supperior to the j6300 because it had almost the same specs, but at a lower pricepoint (and also has a true 120hz panel). There is a pretty decent deal at dell.com for the 55" version right now ($649 + you get a free $175 dell gc), just look on SD tv section for the link. Hope this helps some!

TL;DR - This set is not great because of 60hz panel
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Hey guys, this is definitely just my opinion, but at this price, a 55" 1080p set is just not worth it. As to OP's claim that the j6300 series was one of the best ever, well that is correct, but was mostly because it had a true 120hz panel. This set, being the j6300 "replacement" does not, just has a regular 'ol 60hz set. 120hz can be important because it is associated with better image quality via less motion blur for fast movement (sports and video games) as well as reduced or non-existant judder for 24p sources (movies on dvd or bluray). If you really truly want to blow some dough on a 1080p tv, my suggestion is to go for the j6200 series, which was actually considered supperior to the j6300 because it had almost the same specs, but at a lower pricepoint (and also has a true 120hz panel). There is a pretty decent deal at dell.com for the 55" version right now ($649 + you get a free $175 dell gc), just look on SD tv section for the link. Hope this helps some!

TL;DR - This set is not great because of 60hz panel
You're right about the refresh rate, I missed that somehow. A bit annoyed now that they are advertising this as the replacement for the J6300 when it's not 120 Hz, but I wonder whether they employed some other technology to prevent judder... I think I'll just have to wait to find out on Thursday. However, now I remember why I completely took J6200 out of the running for my purchase: It only has 2 HDMI inputs! Can you believe it? Kind of a travesty, tbh. I use 3 inputs all the time, and 3 is a compromise (always good to have one free). Having a TV with 2 inputs is just crippling.

That said, you can get a refurb UN55J6200 for less than $500, and that would make it worth it to me, but maybe only as a secondary TV or one that's dedicated to a single purpose. If you've got a cable box, chromecast, console, and PC that you want to hook up to your TV, 2 inputs is absurd.
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Well, this TV just got reviewed at www.rtings.com yesterday, and it's pretty disappointing.

http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung/k6250

Seems like judder is very much an issue and they also claim it's an 8 bit panel, which really surprises me as I'm pretty sure I saw it listed as a 10 bit panel, but can't remember where. Damn, why did they have to discontinue the J6300 less than a year after its release?! I might have to end up returning this and holding out for a refurb J6300.
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I tried adjusting the curve on my tv and it broke...
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You're right about the refresh rate, I missed that somehow. A bit annoyed now that they are advertising this as the replacement for the J6300 when it's not 120 Hz, but I wonder whether they employed some other technology to prevent judder... I think I'll just have to wait to find out on Thursday. However, now I remember why I completely took J6200 out of the running for my purchase: It only has 2 HDMI inputs! Can you believe it? Kind of a travesty, tbh. I use 3 inputs all the time, and 3 is a compromise (always good to have one free). Having a TV with 2 inputs is just crippling.

That said, you can get a refurb UN55J6200 for less than $500, and that would make it worth it to me, but maybe only as a secondary TV or one that's dedicated to a single purpose. If you've got a cable box, chromecast, console, and PC that you want to hook up to your TV, 2 inputs is absurd.
Get an HDMI switcher and go for that j6200. It's a solid tv and deal right now.
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would anybody buying a tv now really consider anything under 4k?
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would anybody buying a tv now really consider anything under 4k?
Yes, if you aren't looking to spend more than $1000 and read the reviews of the available models... they're all seriously flawed.
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Hey guys, this is definitely just my opinion, but at this price, a 55" 1080p set is just not worth it. As to OP's claim that the j6300 series was one of the best ever, well that is correct, but was mostly because it had a true 120hz panel. This set, being the j6300 "replacement" does not, just has a regular 'ol 60hz set. 120hz can be important because it is associated with better image quality via less motion blur for fast movement (sports and video games) as well as reduced or non-existant judder for 24p sources (movies on dvd or bluray). If you really truly want to blow some dough on a 1080p tv, my suggestion is to go for the j6200 series, which was actually considered supperior to the j6300 because it had almost the same specs, but at a lower pricepoint (and also has a true 120hz panel). There is a pretty decent deal at dell.com for the 55" version right now ($649 + you get a free $175 dell gc), just look on SD tv section for the link. Hope this helps some!

TL;DR - This set is not great because of 60hz panel
I have the 60" J6200, got it for $400 brand new from Samsung, and I must say it's one heck of a panel.
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