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Denon AVRX4200W 7.2 Channel Full 4K Ultra HD AV Receiver with Bluetooth and Wi-Fi $799 at Amazon

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Last Edited by mlacey3 September 6, 2016 at 09:20 AM
Several sellers have dropped the price of the Denon AVRX4200W on sale to $799.

Last time this was posted it went front page at $897

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Solid deal, probably clearing stores up for the AVR-X4300H which has has minor upgrade and HEOS support (super expensive wireless speakers configurations), not sure why this deal is not getting more attention. It's a competition model to Yamaha RX-A1060BL and has very similar features.
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in a few months this will be $500 ( or less) as they are clearing these out

I am NOT impressed with this unit's build quality..IMO..it should have never been more than $799
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in a few months this will be $500 ( or less) as they are clearing these out

I am NOT impressed with this unit's build quality..IMO..it should have never been more than $799
As in don't buy it not impressed, or not worth anymore than than the $800 price not impressed? What specifically didn't you like about the build quality?
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As in don't buy it not impressed, or not worth anymore than than the $800 price not impressed? What specifically didn't you like about the build quality?
I was eyeing this unit for the longest time until I found out the assembly/manufacturing was done in China then moved to Vietnam while the higher end models (5200, 6200 and 7200) are built in Japan. The Japanese manufactured models are the only ones I trust from Denon. The 4200 was the minimum requirement for the number of channels my dad and I needed for our home theater system setup but we ended up with the TX-RZ900. The number of purchases/reviews seems to show that this 4200 still outsells the RZ series from Onkyo but the reviews aren't as favorable. I don't trust reliability off any off the 4000 and lower models from Denon. Despite having better features such as Audyssey and 2 extra channels.
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This is a GREAT deal. You'd be crazy to pass this up. I picked it up at $897, and it was a steal then.
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This is definitely a solid deal. No receiver around this price comes close to the feature set of the x4200w. It's true, it's not made in Japan like their higher end models, but good luck finding something that is made in Japan for under $1,000 with all these features (most notably XT32/pre-outs,) plus being future-proof with HDCP 2.2/HDMI 2.0a. I've had receivers with XT and XT32 (including the 4311CI made in Japan) -- if you have a solid surround sound system, XT32 is worth the extra cost. Sound is noticeably better.

This came at a perfect time as I just bought a LG 4K OLED TV and this model was the one I was eyeing. After lots of research, it seems to be the best value in the Denon line for me. Stepping up to the X6200W gets you "Made in Japan" and extra amps (useless to me) -- and it sells for a whopping $2,200.
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This is definitely a solid deal. No receiver around this price comes close to the feature set of the x4200w. It's true, it's not made in Japan like their higher end models, but good luck finding something that is made in Japan for under $1,000 with all these features (most notably XT32/pre-outs,) plus being future-proof with HDCP 2.2/HDMI 2.0a. I've had receivers with XT and XT32 (including the 4311CI made in Japan) -- if you have a solid surround sound system, XT32 is worth the extra cost. Sound is noticeably better.

This came at a perfect time as I just bought a LG 4K OLED TV and this model was the one I was eyeing. After lots of research, it seems to be the best value in the Denon line for me. Stepping up to the X6200W gets you "Made in Japan" and extra amps (useless to me) -- and it sells for a whopping $2,200.
room correction/calibration isn't the only way to get good sound. With calibration, you can turn sound output into perfect syncronization with the best potential sound done for you on the computer. But that doesn't mean you can't get better sound than the best calibration available if the DAC and transformer are high quality on a receiver.

In our case, the RZ900 won us from the clean sound. Even Sound and Vision did a test bench and the sound distortion off the two RZ units was very very low. It matched up with the Pioneer SC95.

Either way though, anyone picking either the Denon 4200, the Onkyo TX-RZ900 or the Pioneer Elite SC95, can't go wrong. Those are the top three and best choices on the price bracket of under $1,000.
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As in don't buy it not impressed, or not worth anymore than than the $800 price not impressed? What specifically didn't you like about the build quality?
I think this unit should have never been more than this price
Its "feels" lower end...which is fine at a "lower" end price

I had an X4100 I bought at the Magnolia clearance from last year for $400

The noise floor in the amps was too high for my tastes and I thought it sounded harsh on some sections of my favorite movies

I kept it three weeks and sold it
I bought a Yamaha A2040..paid about $125 more...and like it noticeably better in every way

This coming from a person who also own a Denon 4520
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This is definitely a solid deal. No receiver around this price comes close to the feature set of the x4200w. It's true, it's not made in Japan like their higher end models, but good luck finding something that is made in Japan for under $1,000 with all these features (most notably XT32/pre-outs,) plus being future-proof with HDCP 2.2/HDMI 2.0a. I've had receivers with XT and XT32 (including the 4311CI made in Japan) -- if you have a solid surround sound system, XT32 is worth the extra cost. Sound is noticeably better.

This came at a perfect time as I just bought a LG 4K OLED TV and this model was the one I was eyeing. After lots of research, it seems to be the best value in the Denon line for me. Stepping up to the X6200W gets you "Made in Japan" and extra amps (useless to me) -- and it sells for a whopping $2,200.
You are missing a couple of points
The amp and power supply in the X6200 are also better quality than the ones in the X4200
Also..$2200 is MSRP on that unit..not the current street price for the X6200 as it is being cleared out as well
Reality is there is really about $300 difference in the two units in price
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Either way though, anyone picking either the Denon 4200, the Onkyo TX-RZ900 or the Pioneer Elite SC95, can't go wrong. Those are the top three and best choices on the price bracket of under $1,000.
you need to throw the Yamaha A2050 in that mix as well...its about $200 more...but I think that still makes it close enough in price to consider
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Just installed and got this baby up and running yesterday. Still need to learn a lot more about it however! Outside of the users manual, anyone have any suggestions on websites/forums that I can look at to help guide me on how to best setup some of the features (many of which I'm probably not even aware of).

BTW, I tried logging the unit onto Pandora last night but was not able. Apparently there is a known issues in which Denon claims that a change in Pandora resulted in many of their units not being able to log in. However, they are slowly publishing firmware updates. Read more here [custhelp.com].
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room correction/calibration isn't the only way to get good sound. With calibration, you can turn sound output into perfect syncronization with the best potential sound done for you on the computer. But that doesn't mean you can't get better sound than the best calibration available if the DAC and transformer are high quality on a receiver.

In our case, the RZ900 won us from the clean sound. Even Sound and Vision did a test bench and the sound distortion off the two RZ units was very very low. It matched up with the Pioneer SC95.
For movies, room correction/sound calibration makes the most significant difference in sound compared to the difference in DACs or amps used in modern-day receivers, by far. DACs have advanced considerably in the past 10 years, so much so that the vast majority of people won't be able hear the difference in a double blind test (under equal testing parameters) between devices using comparable DAC chips. Of course, it's quite difficult, strenuous, and time-consuming to do a proper double blind test with these receivers, all factors equal.

I have a Pioneer Elite receiver from a few years ago and always felt MCACC was mediocre compared to Audyssey. Never tried the new Onkyo's but I believe they no longer pay for Audyssey licensing so it was dropped from their recent lines, which is why I didn't consider them for my new setup. Also I was a little weary about build quality from stories about failing HDMI ports and overheating. This was from past receivers however, maybe they've improved recently.
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You are missing a couple of points
The amp and power supply in the X6200 are also better quality than the ones in the X4200
Also..$2200 is MSRP on that unit..not the current street price for the X6200 as it is being cleared out as well
Reality is there is really about $300 difference in the two units in price
Right, but how much can you find the X6200 for? I was at Frys this weekend and it was still $2,200. When it does inevitably go on sale, i'd say a $300 difference (so a X6200W for ~$1,100) would be a great deal, otherwise at MSRP it's not nearly worth it IMO.

If we're talking strictly "amp quality," i'd rather use a high quality external power amp with much more power, which the X4200W can utilize since it have pre-outs -- so another moot point for me.

I'm also a fan of Yamaha as I've owned a couple of their integrated amps in the past. They've always had great build quality. I've yet to use one of their receivers for home theater however.
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Just installed and got this baby up and running yesterday. Still need to learn a lot more about it however! Outside of the users manual, anyone have any suggestions on websites/forums that I can look at to help guide me on how to best setup some of the features (many of which I'm probably not even aware of).

BTW, I tried logging the unit onto Pandora last night but was not able. Apparently there is a known issues in which Denon claims that a change in Pandora resulted in many of their units not being able to log in. However, they are slowly publishing firmware updates. Read more here [custhelp.com].
you'll find anything and probably more than you wanted to know about your Denon x4200 in this thread.

http://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-...2-2-a.html
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For movies, room correction/sound calibration makes the most significant difference in sound compared to the difference in DACs or amps used in modern-day receivers, by far. DACs have advanced considerably in the past 10 years, so much so that the vast majority of people won't be able hear the difference in a double blind test (under equal testing parameters) between devices using comparable DAC chips. Of course, it's quite difficult, strenuous, and time-consuming to do a proper double blind test with these receivers, all factors equal.

I have a Pioneer Elite receiver from a few years ago and always felt MCACC was mediocre compared to Audyssey. Never tried the new Onkyo's but I believe they no longer pay for Audyssey licensing so it was dropped from their recent lines, which is why I didn't consider them for my new setup. Also I was a little weary about build quality from stories about failing HDMI ports and overheating. This was from past receivers however, maybe they've improved recently.
Pretty good points. I am inclined to believe Onkyo has improved their HDMI boards after the backlash and they want to win back consumer confidence. But that consumer confidence lost is still there obviously. Onkyo's gotten better in reliability and Denon took the turn by cutting the corner and having their receivers manufactured for a lower labor cost (while still keeping and adding more features than other brands). The RZ units from Onkyo hardly put out any heat even on high volume levels for a couple of hours. The only way to get a guarantee of how the units will last in the long run is time.

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you need to throw the Yamaha A2050 in that mix as well...its about $200 more...but I think that still makes it close enough in price to consider
I remember someone pointing that to me before and I forgot what it was laugh out loud. I meant to include it on my recommendation.
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you'll find anything and probably more than you wanted to know about your Denon x4200 in this thread.

http://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-...2-2-a.html
Awesome! I'll check it out! Thanks!
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