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Newegg, via eBay, offers HP ProDesk 600 G1 Mini PC with Haswell Core i3-4160T 3.1GHz CPU, 4GB DDR3 1600MHz Ram, 500GB 7200 RPM HDD, WiFi, Gigabit Lan, Windows 7 Pro 64 Bit with Win10 Pro Upgrade license @ $255. Shipping is free.

This is a perfect HTPC solution on a budget. The CPU has enough juice for day to day tasks like Browisng, documents and it also has 4K decoding capability. It has a single DIMM module. So maximum Ram supported is 8GB.

LINK:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-Deskto...1832663317

SPEC:
  • Windows 7 Pro 64 Bit with Windows 10 Pro upgrade license
  • Haswell Core i3-4160T 3.1GHz CPU
  • Intel HD 4400 Graphics
  • 4GB DDR3 1600MHz Ram
  • 500GB 7200 RPM HDD + 1x Free M.2 Slot
  • 802.11n WiFi + Gigabit Lan
  • 6x USB 3.0 (1x with fast Charging)
  • 1x VGA, 2x Display Port
  • USB Mouse & Keyboard
  • 2.9 lbs
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I don't think this can output 4K at 60Hz though (I tried and failed with a similar unit finding that this gen mobile cpus don't have the oomph for it).
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eBay gave me an error at first, but reloaded and it eventually showed up.
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no hdmi?
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no hdmi?
No VGA, and Displayport. But Displayport > HDMI adapters are pretty cheap/easy.
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I don't think this can output 4K at 60Hz though (I tried and failed with a similar unit finding that this gen mobile cpus don't have the oomph for it).
Over HDMI or DisplayPort? This should do 4k@60Hz over DisplayPort.
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woudnt a Alienware Alpha when at sale around 300 would be better overall?
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I don't think this can output 4K at 60Hz though (I tried and failed with a similar unit finding that this gen mobile cpus don't have the oomph for it).
These are not mobile CPU's but rather low wattage desktop SKU's. The same CPU's are used in like the Intel NUC's and similar form factor PC's. However, really they have only sightly more compute power than laptop equivalents.

Really when it comes to 4k (assuming not gaming), it more has to do with the graphics solution. This one has Intel HD 4400, which by the specs do support 4k @ 60fps (the first Intel Graphics solution to support 4k). However, playing 4k content might be an issue. Alternatively it depends on the output since this is likely using Displayport 1.3x which will support 4k over Displayport, but using a HDMI adapter might not be supported.
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Over HDMI or DisplayPort? This should do 4k@60Hz over DisplayPort.
The port is capable of that, but the CPU/GPU is not.

Quote from ai42 View Post :
These are not mobile CPU's but rather low wattage desktop SKU's. The same CPU's are used in like the Intel NUC's and similar form factor PC's. However, really they have only sightly more compute power than laptop equivalents.

Really when it comes to 4k (assuming not gaming), it more has to do with the graphics solution. This one has Intel HD 4400, which by the specs do support 4k @ 60fps (the first Intel Graphics solution to support 4k). However, playing 4k content might be an issue. Alternatively it depends on the output since this is likely using Displayport 1.3x which will support 4k over Displayport, but using a HDMI adapter might not be supported.
I consider the T's closer to mobile (35-45TDP is what used to be standard for a laptop, and some of those boxes even run on laptop power bricks) then desktop.

https://software.intel.com/en-us/...r-graphics
DisplayPort* 1.2 / eDP*
H-Processors: 3840 x 2160 @ 60 Hz (Ultra-HD)
U-Processors: 3200 x 2000 @ 60 Hz, 3840 x 2160 @ 30 Hz
Y-Processors: 2560 x 1600 @ 60 Hz
HDMI*: 4096 x 2304, 3840 x 2160 @ 24 Hz / 24bpp
DVI: 1920 x 1200 @ 60 Hz

Only the H series can do proper 4K, I tried the T and it would just not go. Starting from the 5th gen, they all should though.
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i ended up buying a Thinkpad USFF m91p from ebay for about $120 instead. second gen i5... something like this (diff listing)

it has display port, i5 cpu, etc

http://m.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-M91p...nav=SEARCH
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i ended up buying a Thinkpad USFF m91p from ebay for about $120 instead. second gen i5... something like this (diff listing)

it has display port, i5 cpu, etc

http://m.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-M91p...nav=SEARCH
thanks but $25 for shipping is quite high for me.
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woudnt a Alienware Alpha when at sale around 300 would be better overall?
alienware alpha would be my preference as well, but this is about 40 to 50 cheaper and would use less power due to not having a gpu, if that matters.
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The port is capable of that, but the CPU/GPU is not.



I consider the T's closer to mobile (35-45TDP is what used to be standard for a laptop, and some of those boxes even run on laptop power bricks) then desktop.

https://software.intel.com/en-us/...r-graphics
DisplayPort* 1.2 / eDP*
H-Processors: 3840 x 2160 @ 60 Hz (Ultra-HD)
U-Processors: 3200 x 2000 @ 60 Hz, 3840 x 2160 @ 30 Hz
Y-Processors: 2560 x 1600 @ 60 Hz
HDMI*: 4096 x 2304, 3840 x 2160 @ 24 Hz / 24bpp
DVI: 1920 x 1200 @ 60 Hz

Only the H series can do proper 4K, I tried the T and it would just not go. Starting from the 5th gen, they all should though.
Intel's specs for this specific CPU say 4K@60Hz over DisplayPort LINK [intel.com].

The page you linked is interesting, what specific T cpu have you verified won't do 4k@60hz?

Edit: found a thread talking about complications with 4k@60hz over displayport with HD graphics 4400. LINK [intel.com]. Looks more complicated than I first thought... Does your monitor have an MST mode?
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This CPU and the integrated GPU is capable of decoding 4K content and output it to T 60 fps. Don't provide wrong information which is just based on your speculation.
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This CPU and the integrated GPU is capable of decoding 4K content and output it to T 60 fps. Don't provide wrong information which is just based on your speculation.
He might be on to something though. On some systems the only way to get 4k@60Hz is with MST, which I am just now learning about so I could be wrong.

Apparently you may need to have your monitor settings right with DisplayPort mode set to 1.2 and MST on and with the latest Intel drivers you can get 4k@60Hz by setting your display settings to 2 screens, each 1920x2160, which the screen combines onto it's 3840x2160 panel.

It's called collage mode LINK [intel.com]. There are many threads discussing it working well and not working well.

I am out of my element and have no definitive answers, just thought it was interesting.
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