Sony Computer Entertainment
America (SCEA) hardware marketing boss John Koller has told VG247 that upcoming online shooter MAG is only possible on PlayStation 3.

“If you look at that competitively, it’s something that’s only possible on PS3. The processor speed, the ability of PS3 to showcase 256 players at any given time, and their actions.” said Koller at the GDC last week.

“It’s basically like an iteration of SOCOM, where you’re maybe commanding the SEALs, and someone else has the Rangers, and the Green Berets, and so on,” he added.

MAG was originally revealed at E3 2008 and has the distinct honour of being the first console title to include up to 256 players on screen. It will be interesting to see how the game pans out once it is released, and you can be sure that PlayStation Universe be watching it closely.

http://www.psu.com/Sony--MAG-only-possible-on-PS3-News--a006868-p0.php

256 user controller players over PSN? Should be interesting and probably laggy.

I can't wrap my head around 200+ people playing together with any kind of organization. I know some people are pumped about this game, but I can't imagine how it will work... I don't like total chaos when I'm playing.

i have a feeling this game will spawn a whole slew of videos similar to "leeeeeroy jenkins" {in that organization will be total crap}

Very excited about this game...I love chaos.

Very excited about this game...I love chaos.

:lol: Controlled chaos, maybe... total chaos? eh, don't know.

:lol: Controlled chaos, maybe... total chaos? eh, don't know.
ANARCHY!!!

the descriptions i've read of this game all mention it will be grouping players into squads of 8.
so my impression is the set up will be similar to what was done with Skirmish on Resistance 2 where you have squad vs squad in individual isolated areas of the map and occasionally several groups converging or crossing at once.

i highly doubt it will be 128 people spawn in Base A and 128 people spawn in Base B and just go at it in a free-for-all.
if they did then, you can just imagine the cluster-fs in Killzone 2 now multiplied by 8.
ewww

hopefully they have tanks
:lol:

with that many people you could simply have firing lines.

with that many people you could simply have firing lines.

Would be pretty cool to have a battle that large in civil war/Napoleonic settings....

Would have to turn off the headset for that game..Unless it's set into squads like Battlefield..

PC could do 200+ people I bet.

Would have to turn off the headset for that game..Unless it's set into squads like Battlefield..

Like sladeums said it's going to break down into 16 8 man squads so you probably won't be able to hear them. Hopefully they'll also include proximity chat like KZ2.

Would be pretty cool to have a battle that large in civil war/Napoleonic settings....

We used to do it in Halo 2 Big Team. People didn't know what to do. It was hysterical.

I'm sooooo farking sick of Sony hyping games that aren't even out yet.

Are there even screenshots of what this will look like? Video?

I don't care if there are 1,000 people playing together if it's going to look like Goldeneye.

PC could do 200+ people I bet.

we'll see when Huxley is finally finished.. its the same basic idea but its supposed to be on the 360 and PC..

if this is true, there should be no spawning after you die. that way when one team gets wiped out the game is over.

Since when is it against the law to hype a game, lol? Maybe they should waste their time on dipshit press releases about how the used games industry is going to fail like Nintedough?

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/36474.html

we'll see when Huxley is finally finished.. its the same basic idea but its supposed to be on the 360 and PC..

Just thinking about that game. I wonder if it's still being worked on.

Just thinking about that game. I wonder if it's still being worked on.

yeah, they just had a preview of it on G4 the other week when they were covering the GDC:
(however, Sony was not hyping it)

http://g4tv.com/xplay/videos/37463/GDC-09-A-First-Look-at-Huxley.html

I don't care if there are 1,000 people playing together if it's going to look like Goldeneye.

Hopefully it'll be as fun as Goldeneye! What an awesome game!! :heart: (N64)

if 2kB of information flows through my broadband for each player present, i will need a bandwidth of 550 kB for 255 people.

but i am just a social worker, not a network engineer... so what do i know... except lags.

yeah, they just had a preview of it on G4 the other week when they were covering the GDC:
(however, Sony was not hyping it)

That would be pretty dumb of Sony since the game probably won't see life on the PS3. As I understand it, right now, it's exclusive to Games for Windows and 360.

you know, i hate to imagine the servers....with BF2142 the Titan maps that go 64 players, you can not move whenever someone attempts to move the titan, then again EA's servers for that game is utter garbage.

yeah, they just had a preview of it on G4 the other week when they were covering the GDC:
(however, Sony was not hyping it)


That would be pretty dumb of Sony since the game probably won't see life on the PS3. As I understand it, right now, it's exclusive to Games for Windows and 360.

that was actually a reference to the comment below, inferring Sony is the only company to promote products pre-release...


I'm sooooo farking sick of Sony hyping games that aren't even out yet.

Are there even screenshots of what this will look like? Video?

I don't care if there are 1,000 people playing together if it's going to look like Goldeneye.

that was actually a reference to the comment below, inferring Sony is the only company to promote products pre-release...

Ah, gotcha :thumbup:

what do u expect sony to say? "this game plays pretty well on 360 too, but we're not allowed to make games on 360 so we jsut decided to do it on ps3"

what do u expect sony to say? "this game plays pretty well on 360 too, but we're not allowed to make games on 360 so we jsut decided to do it on ps3"

not allowed? why would they want to?

not allowed? why would they want to?

I dunno, maybe because it would sell more copies? :dontknow:

imagine dropping an airstrike on 100+ people.

Why in the world would you people be excited about what Zipper is going to do. The same people who added vehicles to Socom. The only developer out their worse than Zipper would be slant six

This is Zipper, responsible for the PS2 Socom games (and not the messed up S:C that Slant Six did), so that's a good start as far as being able to believe in the hype.

I am sure that "normal" scaled down 16/32 etc player games will also be possible. In Socom 3, they had very large maps but if you played 16 player instead of 32, each map would shrink accordingly to just a certain section of it. I'm sure they'll incorporate something similar here.

I think Killzone 2 will hold me over... at least, by the time I'm sick of it (not yet), I can take a break from shooters and have this and MW2 to look forward to.

Why in the world would you people be excited about what Zipper is going to do. The same people who added vehicles to Socom. The only developer out their worse than Zipper would be slant six

Ubisoft is worse than anything.

Why in the world would you people be excited about what Zipper is going to do. The same people who added vehicles to Socom. The only developer out their worse than Zipper would be slant six

And the same people that made the great Socom 1 and 2 in the first place, so why not?. I think they heard enough complaints about Socom 3 to hopefully take some of it to heart.

The real bummer about Socom: Confrontation was that they seemed to understand this as well, saying that Socom 2 was their basic blueprint. Then they had to implement this weird control system that nobody liked and launched with horrific server conditions to basically ruin the whole thing.

Leaked MAG screenshots (http://www.flickr.com/photos/37044807@N02/sets/72157616227223753/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3346/3409712661_0abd8f3fe6_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3620/3410520712_a56200f120_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3631/3409711805_04a30ecaab_b.jpg

I know this is going to rile up some fanboys but I have to say, statements like the quoted really get my goat.

The PS3 is doing well, it's showing it's own and some of the "potential" that the PS3 has always touted is finally really making a showing. But since day one and before there have been statements about how great PS3 is and how it's the only one that can do this and that because of how great it is.

On one side we get people saying the PS3 is so great that the good stuff can only happen on PS3, but yet it seems to me that the PS3 version of a game is almost always "as good" or "almost as good" as it's 360 counterpart.

I can't blame Xbox fanboys for trying to drive home that you can't simultaneously claim the biggest and best and the only one who has the ability to do stuff while simultaneously saying that your games being equal to or only slightly worse than the competition is fine.

It happens both ways with Xbox fanboys claiming the RROD isn't really a big deal, but at least to some people a $200 dead console really isn't a big deal (maybe they are just rich) but the PS3 marketing engine going at it like this is just rediculous.

I know this is going to rile up some fanboys but I have to say, statements like the quoted really get my goat.

The PS3 is doing well, it's showing it's own and some of the "potential" that the PS3 has always touted is finally really making a showing. But since day one and before there have been statements about how great PS3 is and how it's the only one that can do this and that because of how great it is.

On one side we get people saying the PS3 is so great that the good stuff can only happen on PS3, but yet it seems to me that the PS3 version of a game is almost always "as good" or "almost as good" as it's 360 counterpart.

I can't blame Xbox fanboys for trying to drive home that you can't simultaneously claim the biggest and best and the only one who has the ability to do stuff while simultaneously saying that your games being equal to or only slightly worse than the competition is fine.

It happens both ways with Xbox fanboys claiming the RROD isn't really a big deal, but at least to some people a $200 dead console really isn't a big deal (maybe they are just rich) but the PS3 marketing engine going at it like this is just rediculous.

Well, the think about not looking as good or just as good is cause some times they suck at ports. And the thing about this game that'll make it only possible on the PS3 is rendering the amount of players on screen, not really the graphics, right?
Oh wait, reread your paragraph. Yeah, the thing about PS3 getting better graphics and such is just sort of stupid at this point. None of them really do have better graphics enough to tout about it. Maybe in the future, but not now.

And for the RROD part, it's not really a dead $200 console, but the fact that they can repair it. But if they still say it's alright after their warranty is out and they have a dead one, it beats me.

Both sides have ignorant people(fanboys/uninformed). :lol:

Well, the think about not looking as good or just as good is cause some times they suck at ports. And the thing about this game that'll make it only possible on the PS3 is rendering the amount of players on screen, not really the graphics, right?
Oh wait, reread your paragraph. Yeah, the thing about PS3 getting better graphics and such is just sort of stupid at this point. None of them really do have better graphics enough to tout about it. Maybe in the future, but not now.

And for the RROD part, it's not really a dead $200 console, but the fact that they can repair it. But if they still say it's alright after their warranty is out and they have a dead one, it beats me.

Both sides have ignorant people(fanboys/uninformed). :lol:

Not sure I entirely follow your reply but here is the cliffs notes of mine:

Sony (and some of their supporters) are ridiculously blatent with their arrogance. Even if the reason the PS3 versions of games are worse is because they are poor ports, it still begs why there are few or no games that go the other way.

Basically you can't say "My football team is so awesome no one else could dream of being as good - btw their record is only SLIGHTLY worse than the average football team, not enough to be a big deal".

Not sure I entirely follow your reply but here is the cliffs notes of mine:

Sony (and some of their supporters) are ridiculously blatent with their arrogance. Even if the reason the PS3 versions of games are worse is because they are poor ports, it still begs why there are few or no games that go the other way.

Basically you can't say "My football team is so awesome no one else could dream of being as good - btw their record is only SLIGHTLY worse than the average football team, not enough to be a big deal".

Basically agreeing :P

Leaked MAG screenshots (http://www.flickr.com/photos/37044807@N02/sets/72157616227223753/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3346/3409712661_0abd8f3fe6_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3620/3410520712_a56200f120_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3631/3409711805_04a30ecaab_b.jpg

Awesome. Slideshow of all the shots: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37044807@N02/sets/72157616227223753/show/

The shots are obviously more lo-res in the slideshow, so I don't think we should judge the looks by this.

Not sure I entirely follow your reply but here is the cliffs notes of mine:

Sony (and some of their supporters) are ridiculously blatent with their arrogance. Even if the reason the PS3 versions of games are worse is because they are poor ports, it still begs why there are few or no games that go the other way.

Basically you can't say "My football team is so awesome no one else could dream of being as good - btw their record is only SLIGHTLY worse than the average football team, not enough to be a big deal".

I wonder if there will be a reversal of this when the next XBOX comes out... presumably before the next Playstation, and people wonder why their new games don't look better than anything the PS3 has.

Ubisoft is worse than anything.
i'd argue codemasters

The screens look good, I hope zipper finds a way to make this doable

I wonder if there will be a reversal of this when the next XBOX comes out... presumably before the next Playstation, and people wonder why their new games don't look better than anything the PS3 has.

Certainly anythings possible, but I would go so far as to say I doubt it if it's still between ms and sony.

MS in my opinion has always had a history of claiming their wrongdoings aren't so wrong. It's their MO if you will.

Sony's MO seems to have been belittling the competition and hyping their own with apparent goldfish memory. Everyone talks up their product but it seems to me that ever since the first announcements of the PS2 Sony has been blowing smoke like no ones business with super inflated triangle rendering counts and bogus claims about products which were more catchy name than real performance. I still to this day am not sure what exactly the emotion engine was all about.

I think Sony plays on two major facts a lot:

A large percent of the fanboys will not know what they are talking about but believe it like gospel.

Fanboys are like restaraunt employees, constantly rolling over and replacing the old with the new.

The first means that if you tell people the emotion engine will make games so realistic you will believe the characters will have emotions and show a cgi clip to back it, people who have no idea understanding how such a thing could be accomplished (or know why such a thing makes no sense to claim) will back you whole heartedly because "duh its got emotion right there in the name".

The second means that you can keep making bogus claims because very often by the time your current fan boys realize they were lied too, they will move over and make room for a new bunch who haven't been lied to yet.

So if I had to guess, and history continues, MS will probably do something dubious, maybe rip off someone elses technology or have some failure they just won't acknoledge. The cell processor will be the next emotion engine. The PS4 will have some crazy new piece of hardware that has potential, Sony will claim 10x the real potential of the part and will relize about 1/2 of it by the time PS5 comes along with some newer crazier piece of hardware.

I wonder if there will be a reversal of this when the next XBOX comes out... presumably before the next Playstation, and people wonder why their new games don't look better than anything the PS3 has.

Didn't this happen with last gen? Multiplatform titles looked the same b/t the PS2 and Xbox despite the xbox touting superior hardware.