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el-cheapo
12-08-2005, 06:23 PM
Ok,
so I know I shouldn't care, right, but I do care.
About rep points.
anyhoo, so I have noticed two disturbing trends lately.

1) MANY n00bs giving rep that don't count.
2) Regulars (over 200 posts) who don't give rep, but say "thank you" in the thread.

Both piss me off.

There, I feel better. Even though rep points don't matter.
there.

Seriously, is it just me or are there TONS of new people here?!?!

Aluvus
12-08-2005, 06:35 PM
Seriously, is it just me or are there TONS of new people here?!?!
Seems to be the cyclical rush of members as the holidays roll in. I was just noticing this myself.

finzz2dlft
12-08-2005, 06:58 PM
2) Regulars (over 200 posts) who don't give rep, but say "thank you" in the thread.


Well, speaking only for myself of course, I often post a "thank you", but I only rep if the deal is absolutley awesome. I don't just hand out reps. A particular post might be useful or helpful, and for that, I will thank the OP. But if the thread is original (meaning, not a repost or ripped off another site) AND it is something that is really useful to me, then I will rep. Besides, what's wrong with simply saying "thank you?" It's better to say thanks than to say nothing at all..........

77Pat
12-08-2005, 06:59 PM
Ok,
so I know I shouldn't care, right, but I do care.
About rep points.
anyhoo, so I have noticed two disturbing trends lately.

1) MANY n00bs giving rep that don't count.
2) Regulars (over 200 posts) who don't give rep, but say "thank you" in the thread.

Both piss me off.

There, I feel better. Even though rep points don't matter.
there.

Seriously, is it just me or are there TONS of new people here?!?!
I have noticed the same things. There are also the members who say rep'd, but then they do not give you the rep points. It is like they type it up, but then forget to actually give you the points. The points are not that important and it just gives you more incentive to help out more.

arjunsr
12-08-2005, 07:22 PM
we don't want to force people to rep its up to the individual.

and new members not being able to rep is just to prevent abuse. there will be people who create accounts just to rep themselves.

el-cheapo
12-08-2005, 08:00 PM
I appreciate the points made here.

Here is the pathetic truth, if I post a GREAT original deal on a medium ticket item, I get THOUSANDS of views and tons of replies I wont get more than one rep point.

If I post a good deal on a crap item. (axshop springs to mind) I will get like 5 rep points. sigh...

It would be cool if mods saw a post that was a good effort they would rep the OP as a gimmie. Just thinking here...

I get the n00b limitations and I understand why they are there. That was just a pure rant, I am glad these checks are in place.

I don't agree with finz that if you think a deal is good and you just say thanks, I mean, that is the point of the rep points. They say "thank you" for you.

I rep whenever I see that someone took the time to post a good deal, whether or not it is useful to me, if it is original and/or insightful I will rep.

Chip
12-08-2005, 08:01 PM
we don't want to force people to rep its up to the individual.

and new members not being able to rep is just to prevent abuse. there will be people who create accounts just to rep themselves.

who would do that ? IMO, thats something really dumb to do...

arjunsr
12-08-2005, 08:17 PM
el cheapo, we here you. it goes with the whole deal posting thing. things i thought were SMOKING hot deals, got 0 replies, while things i just posted since i saw it, made the front page.

you'll get rep eventually if you continually post deals. just wait it out.

el-cheapo
12-08-2005, 08:31 PM
el cheapo, we here you. it goes with the whole deal posting thing. things i thought were SMOKING hot deals, got 0 replies, while things i just posted since i saw it, made the front page.

you'll get rep eventually if you continually post deals. just wait it out.


I hear ya.

Honestly I don't care about getting rep, I just care about NOT getting rep, know what I mean??

XXnarg
12-08-2005, 08:56 PM
Life
is
unfair
then
you
die

K-Man
12-08-2005, 09:14 PM
"thank you"

Nuala'sMom
12-09-2005, 03:42 AM
2) Regulars (over 200 posts) who don't give rep, but say "thank you" in the thread.

Both piss me off.

There, I feel better. Even though rep points don't matter.
there.

Seriously, is it just me or are there TONS of new people here?!?!

Sometimes we are doing that to make a point. There are a few members who have demonstrated that they are "Rep Point Whores" and who court rep points rather openly. They rush to post new deals, often reposting, just to try and get some more rep points. They also post lots of junk offers or offers that really are just stupid like a free font or a minute percentage off some online vendor who has offered that same thing every freaking week.

I do not give rep points to Post whores or Rep Point Whores unless they have posted something personally far above the usual postings. Why should I have to give Rep for every post a person makes that I might use? Some people have no other life and do nothing but scan other freebie boards for offers not posted here yet. That doesn't deserve rep points every time. Cutting and pasting doesn't take much effort.

If however, somebody clearly dug an offer up by themselves and it's not junk - well yeah, Rep 'em! Or, if the deal/offer is just really great - who cares if they cut and pasted it - give the SDer a Rep!

I tend to be very generous with rep - but I feel a post has to be more than just the same old same old to deserve rep.

bean
12-09-2005, 07:12 PM
Life
is
unfair
then
you
die

Careful now, one more political statement and we will be in the podium.

stimpy
12-09-2005, 09:15 PM
I give reps freely, after all, they don't cost me anything. I might give a rep to someone that makes me laugh in the lounge or someone that makes a great point in the Podium. I also almost always give reps back to those that rep me. I have easily given out 5 reps for every 1 I have received, prolly closer to 10. I don't understand when I see a post that says "give me a rep and I'll rep you back." To me that's childish, if someone earned a rep, give it to them.

catluver
12-09-2005, 09:18 PM
You can give rep points in the lounge or the podium? I don't think so.

Schooby
12-09-2005, 09:24 PM
You can give rep points in the lounge or the podium? I don't think so.
no you can't in those forums but you can go and look up a rep-able post from that poster in another forum.

imowensmom
12-10-2005, 07:55 AM
no you can't in those forums but you can go and look up a rep-able post from that poster in another forum.


seems like a lot of work

Schooby
12-10-2005, 08:24 AM
seems like a lot of work
but if the person was helpful it's worth it IMHO.

bolland99
12-10-2005, 08:41 AM
I'm fairly generous with giving out rep points, but I don't give them totally indiscriminately. But if someone goes out of their way to post something that helps me, I'll rep them. And if I take advantage of a deal that someone posts, I always rep them even if it may not be an amazing deal. But I wouldn't know about it otherwise, so I think it is deserved.

r1yan
12-10-2005, 09:28 AM
I'll only rep if the deal comes, which means that people find great deals since it comes. Or I'll rep sometimes if I know that the company in the past has sent things, and if it comes, I rep them again. This way this site gets known for people who find great things. Thats why when I reply to a thread, I post the most imortant rules that should be followed on this site (which is in my sig). I also reply with a thank you, for finding and posting the deal.

McSlick
12-10-2005, 09:53 AM
I am one of the newer users posting in this thread but please wait and read to what I have written before you totally discredit me.

First, it does kind of annoy me that when I look at my 5 last rep points most of them are gray-- it can be liken to a wooden nickel; it is nice to have but does not do you any financial good.

Second, there are many times when I only say "thank you" but I do in fact give a rep point without writing it or I just give a rep point without even writing anything at all.

Third, I do not think it is a bad thing to thank someone. If you gave a rep point to every OP, like the same three regular OP's would have over a thousand rep points. What's the point of a reputation point system if they are given out arbitrarily? Plus in the few times I have been an OP, I liked getting a reply. Nothing is worse than creating what you perceive to be a great thread and no one says anything. Saying “thank you” is the cake that keeps me motivated in finding deals and rep points are like the icing.

Finally, I give rep points when the deal is great or the same OP has given consistently copasetic deals and is due for one from me or by an OP who has truly made a valiant effort in posting.

On a side note, I suggest that for every ten (or whatever number) ModAlerts for reposts and/or other bad posts and these ModAlerts are actually correct and accurate perhaps one should get a rep point(s) from the Mods. Exposing a repost or other bad post is like finding a deal-- it takes time, ergo there should be some reward besides a clutter free forum. And abusing the ModAlert should be cause for reprimand in the form of a warning point. Just a thought from this Novice.

el-cheapo
12-10-2005, 07:32 PM
**SNIP**
Just a thought from this Novice.

Some really good points!

I spent a lot of time posting deals on Friday. I had 78 REPs to start.
I decided I was going to dig up as many deals as I could. I dug deep and after several posts, I had two ro three really good deals and ended up getting up to 91 reps by this morning.

I guess I would say that even with the possible improvements to the rep system, if you really make an effort to post deals you will get rep.

Threadcrappers will be a problem, but you can rise above it.

Maybe everyone should search out deals and post em more vigorously, in the end everybody wins.

Still, I will say this, if you are a veteran here, and you recognize a good post, you should give rep for effort. Because the ones finding the deal make this site great.

jennn22
12-10-2005, 07:40 PM
There are a lot of good points in this thread!!! You guys have made me realize how "cheap" I really am with giving out REP! :nod:

P1t0
12-10-2005, 09:33 PM
You can give rep points in the lounge or the podium? I don't think so.

Theres ways around it.....

McSlick
12-10-2005, 11:00 PM
***
Still, I will say this, if you are a veteran here, and you recognize a good post, you should give rep for effort. Because the ones finding the deal make this site great.
In agreement 100%.

By the way, thank you for starting this thread and for the posters making this thread worthwhile to read. I tip my hat to you all. :worship:

stimpy
12-11-2005, 09:20 AM
Just something I noticed - nothing more.

Mr. SlickDeal gave my deal a front page spot (in the middle, not along the right - I have had several make the right side [/brag]).

In the area that you jump to when you click on a Hot Deal there was a "Thanks stimpy." ... but I didn't get a rep. point from him. :idontknow

As I said, it's just an observation.

PS. knowing this I still repped him for his post of LOTR at Canada Amazon (even tho. it looks like the deal won't go thru, it's still a great find, and good of him to share so that I could at least try.)

Schooby
12-11-2005, 10:01 AM
Just something I noticed - nothing more.

Mr. SlickDeal gave my deal a front page spot (in the middle, not along the right - I have had several make the right side [/brag]).

In the area that you jump to when you click on a Hot Deal there was a "Thanks stimpy." ... but I didn't get a rep. point from him. :idontknow

As I said, it's just an observation.

PS. knowing this I still repped him for his post of LOTR at Canada Amazon (even tho. it looks like the deal won't go thru, it's still a great find, and good of him to share so that I could at least try.)
:lmao: :lmao: funniest post I've read all day... and congrats on posting the great deals Stimpy! Oh and thanks :) :lol:

McSlick
12-11-2005, 03:27 PM
Speaking of just noticing, I have been posting Pinecone links for awhile and I am starting to get fed up with it. People constantly PMing me, people complaining the links don't work for them, and overall rudeness. On top of that, all the "rep" points I get from that thread are all from beginners whose rep points are gray. So today when I checked for last 5 rep points, they were ALL gray!! WTF! that sucks.

ok, I am done ranting. :)

catluver
12-11-2005, 07:05 PM
Thanks so much for this thread. I agree with so many things that have been said here, and learned how to rep outside of this forum... off to do that now!

mattdanger
12-12-2005, 11:14 AM
Seriously, is it just me or are there TONS of new people here?!?!

that's odd... to me, YOU are the n00b.

bESTwOngSTER
12-13-2005, 05:23 PM
Careful now, one more political statement and we will be in the podium.

LMAO xD

Beej
12-16-2005, 07:04 AM
I have repped several people. I know that my rep "doesn't count" yet but want them to know that I appreciate their post. Is that considered annoying? If so, I'll quit repping until it's worth something.

Is rep determined by my rep or by # of posts?

brisar
12-16-2005, 07:23 AM
I have repped several people. I know that my rep "doesn't count" yet but want them to know that I appreciate their post. Is that considered annoying? If so, I'll quit repping until it's worth something.
No BarbaraJean, it's not annoying at all.
Keep doing what you're doing :nod:

Beej
12-17-2005, 12:07 PM
No BarbaraJean, it's not annoying at all.
Keep doing what you're doing :nod:

Thanks for letting me know. I haven't read anywhere what it takes to actually make my rep count.

77Pat
12-17-2005, 12:22 PM
Thanks for letting me know. I haven't read anywhere what it takes to actually make my rep count.
I think it is once you have 50 posts or are here a certain amount of time, but I am not sure.

kel_be
12-17-2005, 07:11 PM
I think it is once you have 50 posts or are here a certain amount of time, but I am not sure.
IIRC, it depends on the number of posts & possibly the number of valid reputation points you have received.

clumsybunny
12-18-2005, 04:09 AM
I give reps freely, after all, they don't cost me anything.

i agree w stimpy. i like to rep ppl when they contribute to SD. they dont cost anything and they encourage ppl to find more deals and build a community. i'd rather rep ppl then to increase the number of pages to the deals page. it gets annoying having to go thru 100 pgs to find out if there's other info but instead reading a ton of thank yous. :rolleyes: but still nice to have ppl write thanks in the thread.

:hug:

cogentman
12-20-2005, 11:36 AM
...There are a few members who have demonstrated that they are "Rep Point Whores" and who court rep points rather openly. They rush to post new deals, often reposting, just to try and get some more rep points...

Well said. I'm still new here but this already irritates me. I joined SD to thank someone who saved me some money with a great post (even though my rep points weren't worth anything). Then I got hooked and lucked out on a few deals I posted (like others have mentioned, the deals I thought were smokin' got little attention and the deals I was just passing along made the front page).

There's a member who posted a popular deal and got a lot of reps - now he's swiping deals, copying them with typos and all, and littering the site with them. He even accused me a stealing a deal from him that I posted from an email I got (search didn't show anything, and in the few minutes it took to post the deal he got his in (apparently someone at FW got the email too)). Now his title is a blatant offer to swap rep points - fits Nuala'sMom's description perfectly, and it annoys me. I don't care about the rep points, but it's like having a 12 year old in here. Hopefully he''ll burn out soon...

ok, I feel better now...

LandofOz
12-20-2005, 01:33 PM
Well said. I'm still new here but this already irritates me. I joined SD to thank someone who saved me some money with a great post (even though my rep points weren't worth anything). Then I got hooked and lucked out on a few deals I posted (like others have mentioned, the deals I thought were smokin' got little attention and the deals I was just passing along made the front page).

There's a member who posted a popular deal and got a lot of reps - now he's swiping deals, copying them with typos and all, and littering the site with them. He even accused me a stealing a deal from him that I posted from an email I got (search didn't show anything, and in the few minutes it took to post the deal he got his in (apparently someone at FW got the email too)). Now his title is a blatant offer to swap rep points - fits Nuala'sMom's description perfectly, and it annoys me. I don't care about the rep points, but it's like having a 12 year old in here. Hopefully he''ll burn out soon...

ok, I feel better now...


I think I know who you mean. I have never once asked for or made any reference to getting rep points, yet this person freely asks for them. It's really annoying me too.

tlwisner
12-20-2005, 01:36 PM
Where do I trade in my rep points for cash? Get a life dude - if rep points are that important to you....

Wammer
12-20-2005, 02:18 PM
I think I know who you mean. I have never once asked for or made any reference to getting rep points, yet this person freely asks for them. It's really annoying me too.

I've resorted to marking his user id to be ignored. I can't take it anymore. I am also praying for the early burn out. (Maybe he'll get a job!) :lmao:

cogentman
12-20-2005, 03:17 PM
I've resorted to marking his user id to be ignored...

I've seen that - how does it work?

finzz2dlft
12-20-2005, 03:36 PM
I've seen that - how does it work?


You have a "ignore" option in your user CP. It's like an "anti-buddy list!"

kel_be
12-20-2005, 04:36 PM
I have never once asked for or made any reference to getting rep points, yet this person freely asks for them.
It's slightly obvious that they who ask shouldn't receive. I never give a rep point for those who ask for them. I copy the no-no that appears when giving a point & just post that. I was under the assumption that no one gives to the person that ask for them. It's an unwritten rule...and I follow it.

I also don't believe that people should "earn" the points for coping & pasting offers from another site. It's one thing to mark them "borrowed, stolen, etc." and to re-word the description, but it's another to be obvious about it.

Aluvus
12-20-2005, 04:50 PM
It's slightly obvious that they who ask shouldn't receive. I never give a rep point for those who ask for them. I copy the no-no that appears when giving a point & just post that. I was under the assumption that no one gives to the person that ask for them. It's an unwritten rule...and I follow it.

I also don't believe that people should "earn" the points for coping & pasting offers from another site. It's one thing to mark them "borrowed, stolen, etc." and to re-word the description, but it's another to be obvious about it.
I am more than willing to give negative rep to anyone that asks for one.

But otherwise, no.

kel_be
12-20-2005, 04:52 PM
I am more than willing to give negative rep to anyone that asks for one.
What if it's in their user title :rolleyes: I think I just met who was being discussed previously.

cogentman
12-20-2005, 05:01 PM
What if it's in their user title :rolleyes: I think I just met who was being discussed previously.

While he's asking for it, if he got a negative rep point he seems immature enough to turn around and give one back (if he's able to)...

kel_be
12-20-2005, 05:04 PM
While he's asking for it, if he got a negative rep point he seems immature enough to turn around and give one back (if he's able to)...
Alot of people are that immature.

bean
12-20-2005, 05:48 PM
I am more than willing to give negative rep to anyone that asks for one.

But otherwise, no.
I've done it.

frm2dosd
12-20-2005, 06:05 PM
What if it's in their user title :rolleyes: I think I just met who was being discussed previously.Hmmm... I think I crossed your path... (s)he commented that your green square was brighter than his/hers and asked whether if that happened after one's rep points had gone 500+. I never even notice that prior to that. Is there such a thing, by the way?

kel_be
12-20-2005, 06:32 PM
Is there such a thing, by the way?
:dontknow: I never noticed the difference until then

77Pat
12-20-2005, 07:34 PM
I think I know who was being talked about here too, and within their own threads they are sort of a PW.

LandofOz
12-20-2005, 08:57 PM
I think I know who was being talked about here too, and within their own threads they are sort of a PW.

Oh my gosh, yes, look at their threads and the number of times they posted within their own threads. I've never seen numbers like that before.

McSlick
12-20-2005, 09:25 PM
I would like to say once again that everyone has made valid points here. Of course for the most part, you are all seasoned vets.

I think reputation levels are suppose to indicate to a deal seeker that an OP either has really great deals or is new to the thread starter game and perhaps one should be wary while approaching this supposed deal. Am I wrong in this line of thinking? In any event, it seems some people do not follow this.

As stated before, rep points I think are suppose to be given out because the OP posted a good deal and nothing else. Of course, a black and white world is always filled with gray hues, but in certain situations the repping process has mutated into something that goes against my idea of what repping should be.

Specifically, many times I feel that people give rep points in hopes of establishing a bartering system of some sort (i.e. I rep you, you rep me). I think in certain limited instances showing your appreciation to the original rep giver is a nice thing to do, but it does not do slickdeals any good.

If you are getting the majority of your rep points because you have "traded" them and then you finally do post a deal, unsuspecting people are more likely to trust it. Meanwhile, you do not know anything about posting a good deal and yet you have 100+ rep points. That seems counterintuitive.

In light of these circumstances, I have come to the conclusion that I am going to hide my reputation level from now on. I am not really a great thread starter anyhow. Hey, honesty is the best policy. Or maybe I am an alright deal finder and many people here are just better. So often I will have a great freebie for a free mag or a free gift but it will already be posted by like four hours and I just got the email. I can't really compete with that.

Yet many times I have been repped by people who expected me to rep back (indicated either in the rep slot or a subsequent PM). I do not like feeling obligated or pressured to give someone a rep point for no apparent reason. I think these people need to realize that acquiring rep points for the sole sake of acquiring lots of rep points is juvenile and a disservice to the other users of this website.

So as of this moment, I am refusing to play that game. If I do happen to find a great deal and post it, people can judge either by the posts from other users (hopefully knowledgeable users) or by the thumb ups or down feature. And if I post enough good deals and people who normally post good deals say so, maybe next time I start a thread, my username will be reputation enough as opposed to a number that was artificially inflated.

Thank you for your time and please let me know if my thinking is skewed here or something. I'll rep ya for. Sorry, could not resist. :lol:

bean
12-21-2005, 05:01 AM
I try to avoid repping someone if I think they will rep me back, other times I will overrule this just because they posted something good or helpful.

el-cheapo
12-21-2005, 05:56 AM
When I got nearer to 100, I noticed a couple people repping me just to "contribute" to my rep total, I prolly got about 5-7 reps that way, I did not rep them back for it. I did not ask for these Gratuitous reps, or "greps" I will call them for you unix nuts.
I think the whole point is that if you have over 100 you are generally considered a "homie". Meaning you don't need to be babysat, you don't post drunk, you know, the basics.
I don't like the idea of a sort of "good old boy" network of people repping each other. Is that what the SYNDICATE was?

finzz2dlft
12-21-2005, 06:52 AM
I don't like the idea of a sort of "good old boy" network of people repping each other. Is that what the SYNDICATE was?


No. The Syndicate started off as a joke among a few regulars in The Lounge, and it simply got out of hand for awhile.

XXnarg
12-21-2005, 07:57 AM
...rep points I think are suppose to be given out because the OP posted a good deal and nothing else...Rep points are also enabled in Tech Support, which is where most of mine originate.

McSlick
12-21-2005, 09:14 AM
Rep points are also enabled in Tech Support, which is where most of mine originate.
Never thought of that and excellent point. May I amend my statement to include any and all original thoughts in regards to tech support, which many times is a great deal in and of itself? Free tech support is a valuable commodity and I apologize for not including it, but I did not even realize you could rep someone in that forum.

Anyway, I just wanted to say that people should be repping someone when they contribute to the website and not to their personal reputation number. As el-cheapo put it, it is like a good old boys mentality with some users.

I have noticed that the OP's with many many rep points do not even seem to care about whether they get them or not (maybe it did matter when they first started out but I don't know). There a couple of people that shall remain nameless, who are really just here to share good deals.

There is especially one individual who I have in mind who, whenever she/he posts, it is a great thread 90%+ of the time with multiple thumbs up and all the other bells and whistles associated with a great post (e.g. MIR, FAR, coupon, and sale, with many of these things combined). I get the feeling she/he are doing it just to be nice and not for a rep point. I guess I just really respect that. Conversely, I find it very pressing to respect someone who acts in a reciprocal fashion.

sduff
12-21-2005, 12:52 PM
I would like to thank the OP and everyone who has contributed to this thread- it's been a fascinating read!

I, too, have often felt ambivalent about rep points. I don't hand them gratiutously, especially when someone begs for them. I'm especially discerning now that my rep points count as 3 (based on my tenure here and # of posts). On the other hand, I am regularly disappointed by people who don't bother to say "thank you" when I've helped them out with a coupon that has saved them anywhere from $30 to a few hundred dollars!

Last week I reached the 3-year mark as a SlickDealer (Yay!). During this period I have benefited from many freebies, coupons, and hot deals. In return my focus has been to contribute $ off coupons every week, primarily for Staples and Dell. I've probably donated over 500 coupons, yet only a handful of people will bother to PM me to say "thanks", let alone add a rep point.

When I am giving coupons I feel that rep points are valuable because I will give preference to a SD'er who has 100 pts and experience versus someone with 10 pts.

I also agree with the suggestion that Moderators would be nice to consider repping those SD'ers who correctly Mod Alert reposts (instead of posting: "This is a repost"). This would give us further incentive to help clean up the forums and keep things organized, a way for us to help out the Mods. After all, I certainly appreciate how hard the Mods work to keep us all in order!

Thanks for listening, everyone.

trite
01-08-2006, 07:23 PM
Ok I need to know... is the PW/RW we are talking about here *********?

All those reps came from reposting FW. I hate FW.

paknano
01-08-2006, 07:47 PM
Ok I need to know... is the PW/RW we are talking about here XXXXXXXXXXXX/B]?

All those reps came from reposting FW. I hate FW.
Quoting what Mr Weasley said to Harry: [B]we don't speak of it.

kel_be
01-08-2006, 08:01 PM
Don't single people out!

McSlick
01-08-2006, 08:01 PM
Quoting what Mr Weasley said to Harry: we don't speak of it.


Kel Be you are fast. ;) :worship:

trite
01-08-2006, 08:03 PM
Yeah she is!

Sorry I named him... just had to make sure.

trite
01-08-2006, 08:48 PM
Crap, I'm sorry kel_be...
...I'm new if you didn't notice.

slamjoe
01-09-2006, 05:09 AM
and they don't rep you even though you were hanging out in the same forum.

ungrateful. :lol:

sevenmarch
01-09-2006, 05:51 AM
I don't think this was mentioned before, but an idea for the grey reps could be to get a green rep for every 5 grey. This would allow them to count for something other than the "wooden nickel" that was stated before. It would be like the thumbs up/down. It only counts once it reaches a certain number.

Anonymouse
01-15-2006, 05:02 PM
I am more than willing to give negative rep to anyone that asks for one.

But otherwise, no.At the risk of actually getting one, :P Where's mine ya cheap bastich???
(Sorry, my sarcasm sometimes gets the best of me and types this chit all by itself while I sit helplessly by and watch.) :lol:

Anonymouse
01-15-2006, 05:17 PM
I don't think this was mentioned before, but an idea for the grey reps could be to get a green rep for every 5 grey. This would allow them to count for something other than the "wooden nickel" that was stated before. It would be like the thumbs up/down. It only counts once it reaches a certain number.I once saw someone mistakenly state that "grey" RPs count once the person has reached 50 posts, (retroactively).
I know that isn't true, but if someone is a n00b, and lives long enough to become a recognised and valuable member of SD, should it NOT be the case?
If they demonstrate the good judgement to hang around and help out here, why should we consider their RPs handed out in the n00b stage to be any less worthy than those they are able to hand out once they reach an abitrary and, (who knows), "worthiness" level of 50 posts?

IMHO, if we are going to restrict RPs from people based on X number of posts, and the number is set at 50 because it's deemed a high enough level to discourage multiple ID creation for the sake of RP totals only, it doesn't seem to me that number is sufficiently high enough to truly stop ID creation for RP purposes. I can post as many as 50 in one evening on the forum, and GAWD knows if Xnarg's AVERAGE post count per day is even UNDER 50 :lol:

I vote for the retroactive awarding of grey posts to the proper recipients once a member reaches some magic number like 159 posts or some such figure.

serra
01-15-2006, 05:21 PM
I vote for the retroactive awarding of grey posts to the proper recipients once a member reaches some magic number like 159 posts or some such figure.


that's a great idea but I don't think Mr.SD controls the magic number of when Reps starts to count. I could be wrong but I think I'm right. Xnarg??

McSlick
01-15-2006, 05:50 PM
*** GAWD knows if Xnarg's AVERAGE post count per day is even UNDER 50 :lol:
As of 01/15/2006 at 8:48pm EST it is:

23.80 posts per day with a total post count of 13,615 :eek: that's alot!

way to go Xnarg!:bounce:

catluver
01-15-2006, 07:34 PM
Ok I need to know... is the PW/RW we are talking about here *********?

All those reps came from reposting FW. I hate FW.

LOL! Even with the asterics, I know who you are talking about :)

serra
01-15-2006, 07:37 PM
LOL! Even with the asterics, I know who you are talking about :)

me too....just count out the user's number of letters. :lol:

XXnarg
01-15-2006, 08:11 PM
Where do I trade in my rep points for cash?..
http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?sduid=16556&t=181433

;)

SoonerLater
01-16-2006, 03:41 AM
Is there someplace that new posters can go to get the skinny on what features are dependant upon # of posts or # of celeries? Maybe just a clear explanation of the repping process?

I've lurked here for quite a while, but only actually signed up about 4 1/2 months ago when I thought I had something worthwhile to post. With few exceptions, I try only to post when I have something to contribute. I've admin'ed a friggin yuge board for five years, so I know that most posters don't have that same outlook/restraint, NTTAWWT (most of the time). However, for those who are good members of the community but just don't post a lot, maybe a little guidance would go a long way.

Personally--if it's feasible--I think it'd be cool if level-dependent features were based on some algorithmic combination of post count, reps and longevity. Or at least some of the features. From what I understand, until I reach 50 posts the reps I give don't count. If that's the case, I think the system would be better served by allowing people like me who are pretty familiar with what is and isn't a rep-worthy post but don't have a lot of posts of their own to both acknowledge the good posts of those who make this place great and actually have their acknowledgments count.

So I guess I'd like to see a refinement of the levelling process and a place in the FAQ or elsewhere to indicate when levels matter. One suggestion would be to add a note to the rep dialogue box when the poster's repping won't count until X conditions are met.

Though I hope to post stuff that others will find useful, my concern here is mainly about being able to properly acknowledge the contributions of others that I find useful. It seems silly that making a bunch of worthless posts would make me eligible to rep others.

Just for reference, here's the current FAQ blurb on repping:

What are reputation points and what are those green boxes under my username?
Every user starts with 10 reputation points. You can give other users rep points if you feel that the post has been helpful. Reputation points can only be given in the deal, freebie or help forums. The best way to accumulate rep points is by posting a good deal.

You can view the last 5 reputation points you have received in your usercp. The ones with green boxes count towards your score, while the gray ones are not. The points that count usually come from seasoned users.

Negative rep points are not allowed due to abuse but certain privileged users are able to give negative rep.




Oh, and like I said, I admin another big board. We've avoided things like a rep system because we know what a PITA it can be. Hope I'm not contributing to the PITA, just trying to give some constructive feedback. Thanks for giving us all a nice place to play.

sdwinner
01-16-2006, 04:40 AM
I say disable rep!

McSlick
01-16-2006, 10:23 AM
Is there someplace that new posters can go to get the skinny on what features are dependant upon # of posts or # of celeries? Maybe just a clear explanation of the repping process?
***. Excellent points but the exact "formula" for reps going green is not known outside the Mod world. It is a combination of things but kept a secret so people don't create another user account and then meet the criteria and start repping themselves.

catluver
01-16-2006, 08:05 PM
Oh, and like I said, I admin another big board. We've avoided things like a rep system because we know what a PITA it can be. Hope I'm not contributing to the PITA, just trying to give some constructive feedback. Thanks for giving us all a nice place to play.

Why are you even bothering to come here if you run a competing site?

kel_be
01-16-2006, 08:30 PM
Why are you even bothering to come here if you run a competing site?
It doesn't matter if someone runs a smiliar site or not. When I first posted here, I gave & stole posts from here and another similar site. When I was asked to be a moderator, I stoped stealing posts from here, I didn't feel as if it was a morally right thing to do.

Forgive me, I have not read all of the posts here, but to sum up my 2 cents, If you don't agree with the rep point system, why don't you just disable your rep points? AFAIK, there isn't a way to limit how many points you can give someone. It's written into VBulliten.

XXnarg
01-17-2006, 06:37 AM
I say disable rep!You're free to do that in your User CP (http://forums.slickdeals.net/profile.php?do=editoptions). Uncheck the box labelled "Show My Reputation Level."

Mavtech
01-17-2006, 12:41 PM
You're free to do that in your User CP (http://forums.slickdeals.net/profile.php?do=editoptions). Uncheck the box labelled "Show My Reputation Level."

True! As with watching smut, you are free to choose not to participate! ;)

SoonerLater
01-18-2006, 10:26 AM
Why are you even bothering to come here if you run a competing site?

If by competing site you mean a board that has nothing to do with posting about slick deals but is, in fact, a message board existing on the internet, I'd say I bother coming here because this board exists on the internet mainly for those posting about slick deals.

I hope I've made myself clear.


ETA: For kel_be, my long-winded post up there wasn't about my own RPs, it was about the ability to give them to someone else.

kel_be
01-18-2006, 08:13 PM
ETA: For kel_be, my long-winded post up there wasn't about my own RPs, it was about the ability to give them to someone else.
I understand.

BengalTigger
01-20-2006, 09:08 AM
I would like to see negative reps reinstated but in a different form. For example, if multiple users assign negative reps for a user for a post, they would get one (single) negative rep for that post instead of one from each member. That would allow discouraging bad posts, but also prevent members from ganging up on a single user and stripping them of their difficult-to-achieve points.

serra
01-20-2006, 01:12 PM
I would like to see negative reps reinstated but in a different form. For example, if multiple users assign negative reps for a user for a post, they would get one (single) negative rep for that post instead of one from each member. That would allow discouraging bad posts, but also prevent members from ganging up on a single user and stripping them of their difficult-to-achieve points.

i don't foresee a NeRP gang attack on a single user without extensive discussion within the thread first. unless the one asking for it is provoking Bold Users.

bean
01-20-2006, 01:51 PM
I would like to see negative reps reinstated but in a different form. For example, if multiple users assign negative reps for a user for a post, they would get one (single) negative rep for that post instead of one from each member. That would allow discouraging bad posts, but also prevent members from ganging up on a single user and stripping them of their difficult-to-achieve points.
Don't piss off the natives.

sduff
01-21-2006, 09:00 AM
i don't foresee a NeRP gang attack on a single user without extensive discussion within the thread first. unless the one asking for it is provoking Bold Users.

I agree. With the power to give nerp's comes a greater responsibility. The only people I've nerped have been spammers who have posted some idiotic scheme in multiple forums before a moderator could shut them down and ban them permanently.

McSlick
01-21-2006, 11:12 AM
I would like to see negative reps reinstated but in a different form. For example, if multiple users assign negative reps for a user for a post, they would get one (single) negative rep for that post instead of one from each member. That would allow discouraging bad posts, but also prevent members from ganging up on a single user and stripping them of their difficult-to-achieve points.
i don't foresee a NeRP gang attack on a single user without extensive discussion within the thread first. unless the one asking for it is provoking Bold Users.
I agree. With the power to give nerp's comes a greater responsibility. The only people I've nerped have been spammers who have posted some idiotic scheme in multiple forums before a moderator could shut them down and ban them permanently.
I agree as well with RickySlicy and Sduff. The SD's system is pretty well established and it works fine IMHO. If a member doesn't like the deal, whether they are a noob or a seasoned vet with ten rep points or a thousand, she or he has the ability to either give it a thumbs down or post a reply in the thread indicating why it is a bad deal.

When I look for a good deal here, the first thing I usually look at after the title is the thumbs up or down. Next, I read the comments in the thread to see what other people had to say. If SD's used your idea, I don't know how anyone would be able to tell if it is a good deal or not unless they knew the OP's rep point level prior to posting the bad deal.

Or if you are suggesting that the thumbs down and negative rep points be given conjunctively, well that's just kicking someone when they are down. Try posting a really bad deal here-- it is embarrassing. Then if you posted a bad deal, became embarrassed, and then got negative reps because of it, that's when I would feel "gang[ed] up on" and I personally would not post again.

Again, I think the thumbs down feature is the best remedy in this instance because we have so many safeguards against bad posts (e.g. other people's replies, thumbs down, the ability for anyone to ModAlert a bad thread, and if someone is consistently posting bad deals any member can put that bad poster on their ignore list [but by that time the Mods will have either warned or banned them if the post is that egregious]).

mozzy
01-24-2006, 03:07 PM
Is there someplace that new posters can go to get the skinny on what features are dependant upon # of posts or # of celeries? Maybe just a clear explanation of the repping process?

I've lurked here for quite a while, but only actually signed up about 4 1/2 months ago when I thought I had something worthwhile to post. With few exceptions, I try only to post when I have something to contribute. I've admin'ed a friggin yuge board for five years, so I know that most posters don't have that same outlook/restraint, NTTAWWT (most of the time). However, for those who are good members of the community but just don't post a lot, maybe a little guidance would go a long way.

Personally--if it's feasible--I think it'd be cool if level-dependent features were based on some algorithmic combination of post count, reps and longevity. Or at least some of the features. From what I understand, until I reach 50 posts the reps I give don't count. If that's the case, I think the system would be better served by allowing people like me who are pretty familiar with what is and isn't a rep-worthy post but don't have a lot of posts of their own to both acknowledge the good posts of those who make this place great and actually have their acknowledgments count.

So I guess I'd like to see a refinement of the levelling process and a place in the FAQ or elsewhere to indicate when levels matter. One suggestion would be to add a note to the rep dialogue box when the poster's repping won't count until X conditions are met.

Though I hope to post stuff that others will find useful, my concern here is mainly about being able to properly acknowledge the contributions of others that I find useful. It seems silly that making a bunch of worthless posts would make me eligible to rep others.

Just for reference, here's the current FAQ blurb on repping:




Oh, and like I said, I admin another big board. We've avoided things like a rep system because we know what a PITA it can be. Hope I'm not contributing to the PITA, just trying to give some constructive feedback. Thanks for giving us all a nice place to play.

He does not run a competing site guys, just another forum which is big.

McSlick
01-24-2006, 03:12 PM
~~:):)~~