In the attached screenshot, there are 52 threads visible. Of them, Selma accounts for 21 and yuugotserved for 19.

Of the 7 threads that have more than a 1-thumbs up rating, 6 of them were posted by members not named Selma or yuugotserved.

I understand that Selma and yuugotserved are positive members of the SD community and that they contribute a tremendous amount of threads every day, but the sheer amount of posts is overwhelming and saturates the forum.

Is there a way someone can enforce a posting limit or some sort of oversight?

There is no escape. You have no choice but to submit to their will.

http://www.gunaxin.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/productimage-picture-skynet-43.jpg

... Or you can put both of them on your ignore list. I believe if a deal gets 5 or more thumbs up that you'll see the thread anyway.

I have a suggestion that might be better:

How about every sale be lumped together? Instead of 50 different threads for every single item on sale at Newegg or Meritline, have a general "[Store] Sale on [Date]"

Better people have suggested this sadly. It's not been until recently when there's been a few more people doing the massive posting that it's gotten truly out of hand.

Ignore them - then you'll only see the good deals from them.

Ya, it's getting sickening. How else can you post 5 NEW threads in 1 minute? It seems like when I post I can only post 1 thread within 20 seconds? I wanna know the secrets too.

Lots of copy and pasting, probably :p

It's not hard to open several tabs and copy/paste a bunch

We're lookin' at BOTs here :D

Ignore them - then you'll only see the good deals from them.

Okay, I had this argument with bryantq and Mr. SD already.

Stop suggesting the same damn thing. Ignoring them doesn't help the problem. If I ignored Selma, bluguys, and yuugotserved, there'd be plenty of good deals that would be missed just because of the number of threads they post that don't get posted in or voted in a lot.

The WORST thing we could do is ignore them. I think my suggestion above is much more valid than this BS you guys keep spewing.

:popcorn:

I have a suggestion that might be better:

How about every sale be lumped together? Instead of 50 different threads for every single item on sale at Newegg or Meritline, have a general "[Store] Sale on [Date]"

Better people have suggested this sadly. It's not been until recently when there's been a few more people doing the massive posting that it's gotten truly out of hand.

Then what do we do if only one out of say 8 sales changes during the day? Or a person outside of the people mentioned posters creates a thread for 1 of the grouped-together deals before the grouped-together is posted? How should we merge /split that?

We're lookin' at BOTs here :D

yuugotserved is a BOT...Selma is not. :nod:

Okay, I had this argument with bryantq and Mr. SD already.

Stop suggesting the same damn thing. Ignoring them doesn't help the problem. If I ignored Selma, bluguys, and yuugotserved, there'd be plenty of good deals that would be missed just because of the number of threads they post that don't get posted in or voted in a lot.

The WORST thing we could do is ignore them. I think my suggestion above is much more valid than this BS you guys keep spewing.

If it's truly a good deal, it would be TU'd and show through ignore, so I'm not seeing any validity in that complaint :p

If it's truly a good deal, it would be TU'd and show through ignore, so I'm not seeing any validity in that complaint :p

Is there a way to lower the threshold of the rating for ignored users?

e.g. There is a yuugotserved thread with a thread rating of +3 TU. When I ignore him, this thread is not displayed.

If it's truly a good deal, it would be TU'd and show through ignore, so I'm not seeing any validity in that complaint :p
Not true. MANY good deals are completely ignored. It goes both ways- the FP mods will FP some very shitty deals (the Staples paper for instance, since it's literally almost $1 at least 1-2x a month) but won't even look at plenty of deals. How many Meritline items have made the FP lately? PLENTY of those same items have been that price multiple times in the past, they're cheap items, and aren't a SlickDeal.

I'd like to know why you completely ignored my suggestion though. As has been said by the SD higher-ups, the person who does the work posting multiple good deals from one deal shouldn't be ignored in favor of the single deal poster.

@Kel_be: using what I believe redsolar (hope I'm using the right SD admin) has said, when someone posts a SINGLE deal before the entire sale gets posted, they shouldn't be placed in favor of the person that went piece by piece and did the grunt work. So, you should leave those posts alone. The people who do the actual work and find the deals shouldn't have to be labeled as reposters because some lazy ass found a single item.

What does the FP have to do with anything? A deal doesn't have to be on the FP to show through ignore, it just needs rated up :)

Not true. MANY good deals are completely ignored. It goes both ways- the FP mods will FP some very shitty deals (the Staples paper for instance, since it's literally almost $1 at least 1-2x a month) but won't even look at plenty of deals. How many Meritline items have made the FP lately? PLENTY of those same items have been that price multiple times in the past, they're cheap items, and aren't a SlickDeal.

You have to learn to disagree with us and move on. Plenty of DDR2 deals showed up everyday last year and all were slickdeals. People complained about it and guess what? You can't find any good deals on memory now. If you don't like the deal and the community says it's a good via thumbs, we'll side with the community. :)


I'd like to know why you completely ignored my suggestion though. As has been said by the SD higher-ups, the person who does the work posting multiple good deals from one deal shouldn't be ignored in favor of the single deal poster.
We have general guidelines on when to merge. We generally don't merge into master/general sales threads. If we see that the community likes the deal with 5 thumbs up, it's less likely for us to merge. We try to be consistent but still allow our mods to make decisions on a case by case basis if needed.

Okay, I had this argument with bryantq and Mr. SD already.

Stop suggesting the same damn thing. Ignoring them doesn't help the problem. If I ignored Selma, bluguys, and yuugotserved, there'd be plenty of good deals that would be missed just because of the number of threads they post that don't get posted in or voted in a lot.

The WORST thing we could do is ignore them. I think my suggestion above is much more valid than this BS you guys keep spewing.

Your suggestion to merge all the deals into one thread is flawed for two reasons:

One: by merging 50 deals together into one thread people are less likely to be able to spot the individual products that actually are worthwhile. (Imagine a sale at a store, 50 items advertised, only 3 are actually good.) Having to scan a list isnt useful, and trying to fill the title with the three items makes it hard to read.

Two: voting doesnt work correctly because people may vote based on the overall sale and cannot vote on an individual product, and thus even if there were one or two good deals inside, the overall quality of the sale may degrade the voting to the point that no one would see that its worth even looking at.


My suggestion for you is perhaps you should just browse by thumbs (filter the forum to show deals with only +2 thumbs for example).

Then what do we do if only one out of say 8 sales changes during the day? Or a person outside of the people mentioned posters creates a thread for 1 of the grouped-together deals before the grouped-together is posted? How should we merge /split that?
I'm sorry but that hurt my head reading it.

I'm sorry but that hurt my head reading it.

I totally understood it...maybe because I am becoming more acclimated to how deals and such are merged or expired..

If you have 8 deals all merged together and a couple expire then you have to try to split a whole thread...comments would be way off for the ones that remain.


And what if a different person (other than the ones the thread here was made for) posted a deal...then one of the mentioned ones made a long thread with many deals including the aforementioned deal.


See how confusing all of this sounds...that's just in trying to convey the dynamics in this post...then try doing it for real. :P

The mods do amazing stuff. I never knew how much they did and how well they have to know their stuff to do it well and not have broken links and all kinds of chaos going on.



:hide: *not commenting on how many things I have screwed up since I have been here. :harhar:

:hide: *not commenting on how many things I have screwed up since I have been here. :harhar:

:secret: don't disconnect the network cables again

What does the FP have to do with anything? A deal doesn't have to be on the FP to show through ignore, it just needs rated up :)

:facepalm: If you missed it, I'd rather not argue with you. It's obvious you aren't getting what I am saying.

bryantq- that doesn't actually address my original suggestion in this thread does it? Where I suggested that, instead of spamming the HD forum to hell, that the deals be combined into one thread with "[Store] Sale: [Date]" as the title.

People can sort through the 100+ results when people just copy/paste the Amazon Fillers books listing, they can do so with a sale from Newegg.

Besides, doesn't the Egg have a text-only email option? Copy/paste the text- not that hard.

You have to learn to disagree with us and move on. Plenty of DDR2 deals showed up everyday last year and all were slickdeals.
DDR2 was also still the standard in 2008/early 2009. Around March 09 they transitioned to DDR3 and DDR2 was cut significantly production-wise. There aren't any deals now compared to the 08 deals because there is still a huge demand for something that's not in large supply. Basic economics FTW!

I would consider a 2GB stick of RAM for my laptop for under $35 a Slick Deal right now. 18 months ago? Hell no. But times change. Remember when laptops on Black Friday were cut to the low low low price of just $1000? Times change. You can now find a decent laptop that'll last you ~3 years for under $400 pretty often.

Not true. MANY good deals are completely ignored. It goes both ways- the FP mods will FP some very shitty deals (the Staples paper for instance, since it's literally almost $1 at least 1-2x a month) but won't even look at plenty of deals. How many Meritline items have made the FP lately? PLENTY of those same items have been that price multiple times in the past, they're cheap items, and aren't a SlickDeal.Yes, I've seen the same in my i3 laptop research here; an i3 notebook for $550 tends to get fewer up-thumbs than a Core2Duo laptop that is weaker, but gets its price cut from $800 to the "great price" of $500 (as a semi-fictional example). So we can't rely on thumbs for a good deal.

Suggestion:
Limit new thread-starting to only one per 5 minutes. This will force "spammers" to either post mega-deal threads, to actually research to see if their deal is really "best of", or just give other people a chance. Or to put up a Capcha if you post more than 1 new thread every 10 minutes, etc.

However, I don't think SD wants to throttle down the posts; I'm guessing they make commission off of every sale made by click-throughs here.

Not true. MANY good deals are completely ignored. It goes both ways- the FP mods will FP some very shitty deals (the Staples paper for instance, since it's literally almost $1 at least 1-2x a month) but won't even look at plenty of deals. How many Meritline items have made the FP lately? PLENTY of those same items have been that price multiple times in the past, they're cheap items, and aren't a SlickDeal.

when will you learn that FP deals are mainly decided by the community :facepalm2:

many good deals are being "ignored" because (based on what i've observed):

1. they do not merit enough thumbs up, views, or posts
2. they are price mistakes and not worthwhile
3. cashback is necessary to actually get the good price (why would sd post how to make microsoft earn money?)
4. OOS by the time it can be FP'ed

there you go. i don't know why you keep on insisting "hot" deals are ignored. i bet you are referring to bing cashback deals. tough luck. buying an ipod touch for $270 minus cashback wouldn't make it to frontpage.

P.S. FWIW, A LOT of cheap cents or dollar deals get FP'd. not just meritline. a quick search would clarify this. why this gets FP'd? uh because it's cheap and actually gets a lot of TU's. pretty basic if you ask me.

Suggestion:
Limit new thread-starting to only one per 5 minutes. This will force "spammers" to either post mega-deal threads, to actually research to see if their deal is really "best of", or just give other people a chance. Or to put up a Capcha if you post more than 1 new thread every 10 minutes, etc.

However, I don't think SD wants to throttle down the posts; I'm guessing they make commission off of every sale made by click-throughs here.

the suggestion is flawed because how will these people decide to themselves what is a good deal? a good deal is even subjective because they might think this is actually a good deal, when in reality it isn't.

now this is where our ratings come in. if we don't like it TD it :dontknow:

do you guys really expect these people who are doing free labor to research the deals?

P.S. i just read the "just give other people a chance". pretty funny. but it reinforces the fact that even you remove yuu or selma, there will be people who will post these DOTD deals. they just beat our asses off :P

:facepalm: If you missed it, I'd rather not argue with you. It's obvious you aren't getting what I am saying.

There's nothing to get! Whether or not a deal makes the FP has nothing to do with a TU'd thread showing through ignore.

If I were suggesting you stop reading HD and just watch the FP, then it would be a valid point.

when will you learn that FP deals are mainly decided by the community :facepalm2:
I was saying that plenty of good deals are completely ignored by the community. I've seen plenty of good deals buried pages deep just 2-3 hours after being posted that weren't in my deal alerts that deserved recognition.

There are plenty of deals that are FPed that have only 1-2 thumbs (not TU votes, but after everything is said and done, only 1-2 thumbs) that seem rather premature. I'd much rather see the FP mods only put up deals that reach a certain threshold for votes, but I'm not the one that runs this place.

there you go. i don't know why you keep on insisting "hot" deals are ignored. i bet you are referring to bing cashback deals. tough luck. buying an ipod touch for $270 minus cashback wouldn't make it to frontpage.
Did I ever suggest hot deals are ignored? Stop putting words into my mouth- I've never said hot deals were ignored, or that many good FP deals aren't put there when they probably should.

As for BCB, you're talking to a person that just broke the $11 in cashback in their account. If I was worried about BCB making something a good deal I'd have more than that, don't you think? ;) Unless something is an amazing deal before BCB and is only made that much sweeter with the cashback, I don't think it should even be posted. Alas, how many deals have we seen just today that were deals that require tons of cash upfront to get 20% back? (note: my only participation in the WM 20% back was to buy a $13 pair of shoes I was going to buy anyway, so...)

Lloyd, unfortunately, while you are trying to make arguments, you're arguing against points that I've never made. Maybe actually read next time.


Correct me if I am wrong, but wouldn't the whole "we let the community decide" argument that you guys at SD are trying to throw out as your argument back be much more viable if there weren't deals nearly daily that were FP'd that only have 1-2 thumbs? Kinda hard for something to be deemed an extremely good deal if there's only 3-4 votes, isn't it? ;)

Correct me if I am wrong, but wouldn't the whole "we let the community decide" argument that you guys at SD are trying to throw out as your argument back be much more viable if there weren't deals nearly daily that were FP'd that only have 1-2 thumbs? Kinda hard for something to be deemed an extremely good deal if there's only 3-4 votes, isn't it? ;)
1-2 thumbs daily? Please cite examples. We usually don't FP deals until a threshold is reached. If we feel that the deal is hot enough to be FP'd immediately we will do so but it's not often and when we do, most will get 5 thumbs up. We make mistakes every once in awhile. Please don't make things up as facts.

1-2 thumbs daily? Please cite examples. We usually don't FP deals until a threshold is reached. If we feel that the deal is hot enough to be FP'd immediately we will do so but it's not often and when we do, most will get 5 thumbs up. We make mistakes every once in awhile. Please don't make things up as facts.

This, which was at 2 thumbs (http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1849239), This hadn't even started when it was FP'd- and just started literally this minute (http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1849157), This had literally 1 thumb when it was FP'd for some reason (http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1832483)

Anytime a Coldwater Creek "clearance" email shows up with 50% off or more, it's FP'd like it's hot as hell, but it's the same clearance items that have been that discount- or more- pretty regularly for weeks.

I only looked at the first 4 pages of the Hot Deals forum, and didn't look for more than about 2 minutes.

This, which was at 2 thumbs (http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1849239)
FP'd at +6 or 3 thumbs.
This hadn't even started when it was FP'd- and just started literally this minute (http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1849157)
FP'd at +11 or 4 thumbs
This had literally 1 thumb when it was FP'd for some reason (http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1832483)
FP'd at +30 or 5 thumbs. I don't care if this was FP'd at +1 because it ended up at +52.

Are you looking at the right site or maybe something wrong with your graphics card?


Anytime a Coldwater Creek "clearance" email shows up with 50% off or more, it's FP'd like it's hot as hell, but it's the same clearance items that have been that discount- or more- pretty regularly for weeks.

I only looked at the first 4 pages of the Hot Deals forum, and didn't look for more than about 2 minutes.
For a college male, I would hope that you don't shop at Coldwater Creek. I don't shop there either but if people are interested in it why does it bug you?

FP'd at +6 or 3 thumbs.
Rather early to FP something isn't it? Is really a +6 rating indicative of anything? Tons of deals get +6 ratings....

FP'd at +30 or 5 thumbs. I don't care if this was FP'd at +1 because it ended up at +52.
The 3 month free trial of Amazon ended up at like +5000. I agree, it was FP material, but let me guess, you "don't care" what it was FP'd at right?

Are you looking at the right site or maybe something wrong with your graphics card?
I'd hope everything is okay. This laptop's only 6 months old. (Seriously, this whole trying to shove the blame- for lack of a better term at 330AM- onto me gets really old really quick).

For a college male, I would hope that you don't shop at Coldwater Creek. I don't shop there either but if people are interested in it why does it bug you?
It doesn't bug me. It's just rather annoying that your entire team is rather contradicting. You claim one thing but repeated actions go against said claims. Oh, and just because I'm not exactly the "target audience" of the store doesn't mean I can't read the threads does it? Hell, until one of them moved into a local mall I didn't even know they existed.

I'd accept your arguments a lot more if you just said that it's your site and your team can do whatever they want whenever they want. Claiming something that can be refute pretty easily isn't exactly something I'm going to buy, now is it?

Rather early to FP something isn't it? Is really a +6 rating indicative of anything? Tons of deals get +6 ratings....


The 3 month free trial of Amazon ended up at like +5000. I agree, it was FP material, but let me guess, you "don't care" what it was FP'd at right?


I'd hope everything is okay. This laptop's only 6 months old. (Seriously, this whole trying to shove the blame- for lack of a better term at 330AM- onto me gets really old really quick).


It doesn't bug me. It's just rather annoying that your entire team is rather contradicting. You claim one thing but repeated actions go against said claims. Oh, and just because I'm not exactly the "target audience" of the store doesn't mean I can't read the threads does it? Hell, until one of them moved into a local mall I didn't even know they existed.

I'd accept your arguments a lot more if you just said that it's your site and your team can do whatever they want whenever they want. Claiming something that can be refute pretty easily isn't exactly something I'm going to buy, now is it?
Yes it gets old. You turn a perfectly legitimate thread into an argument. Please reread the bolded parts below. I'm not going to argue with you in the middle of the night.

This, which was at 2 thumbs (http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1849239)
FP'd at +6 or 3 thumbs.
This hadn't even started when it was FP'd- and just started literally this minute (http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1849157)
FP'd at +11 or 4 thumbs
This had literally 1 thumb when it was FP'd for some reason (http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1832483)
FP'd at +30 or 5 thumbs. I don't care if this was FP'd at +1 because it ended up at +52.

Is there a way to lower the threshold of the rating for ignored users?

e.g. There is a yuugotserved thread with a thread rating of +3 TU. When I ignore him, this thread is not displayed.
It's set at +6. It is a site wide only setting so there isn't a user configurable option.