All right, I searched and this hasn't been created yet. I thought I'd start it on the news that the intro video has apparently leaked. Interesting music choice... hope it's not the final, but whatever, it's just the intro video. The game was, after all, originally scheduled to be out this month.

Edit: new high quality direct rip of this trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54P9jX-ekno

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuKpoVaU0Jk

Edit: It's the trailer from the God of War III disc.

can someone update this wiki with store prices and deals? i need to buy this game today so i can play all week long and forgot to pre-order

In before the first 'bot comes in w/ a Duke Nuke'em Forever comment.

Lost my excitement for this game a LONG time ago. The hype and delays have ruined it for me. I bought a PS3 in 2008 mainly for GT5, but now the game won't be a first day purchase for me when it's released.

One thing I'm still baffled about is the car sounds. The game has been in development for years and the cars overall still sound terrible IMO.

yes.. PROLOUGE is such a joke. So many people buying it thinking it is the full game, than realizing it's not after the first few races.

Is there a solid release date for it yet?

yes.. PROLOUGE is such a joke. So many people buying it thinking it is the full game, than realizing it's not after the first few races.

Is there a solid release date for it yet?

Lots of rumors around November 1stish.

This is no longer a release day purchase for me and Im not holding my breath. It has become the new game that will never come out. When it does it will come out to alot less first day purchases then they are expecting Im sure.

I have a feeling that for most of the true fans, the hype can and will be revived rather quickly when we get a date.

Yeah yeah Duke Nukem Forever blah blah blah... the game will come out, people. This year.

I have a feeling that for most of the true fans, the hype can and will be revived rather quickly when we get a date.

Yeah yeah Duke Nukem Forever blah blah blah... the game will come out, people. This year.

I'm sure my hype will be renewed before the release. I'm just a hater right now since PD seems like a very screwed up company in my eyes at this point. I've felt lied to several times over the process of this game being created and until its actually in the hands of people and gameplay is confirmed to be quality along with the visuals going a long way from their "demo" then I'm not really sure what to think.

People have also been saying "This Year" for the past couple of years. Remember that before you completely throw comments aside =P.

I'm sure my hype will be renewed before the release. I'm just a hater right now since PD seems like a very screwed up company in my eyes at this point. I've felt lied to several times over the process of this game being created and until its actually in the hands of people and gameplay is confirmed to be quality along with the visuals going a long way from their "demo" then I'm not really sure what to think.

People have also been saying "This Year" for the past couple of years. Remember that before you completely throw comments aside =P.

Graphical improvements from Prologue have already been demonstrated in spades.

As for the release, remember they did say March 2010. Even though it was delayed, it was the first time they announced a release at all. It's close.

how many other car racing games out now since gt4?, i wonder if will be all that much different, not that i wouldn't get it, gotta have a pretty good multi-player for one. were all used to good graphics but thats standard now days, dont really know what took this one so long to come out.

how many other car racing games out now since gt4?, i wonder if will be all that much different, not that i wouldn't get it, gotta have a pretty good multi-player for one. were all used to good graphics but thats standard now days, dont really know what took this one so long to come out.

Hasn't there been at least 2 versions of Forza?

I haven't played it but it always looks spectacular in the screenshots.

With the current games coming out that I want to play (Bioshock 2, Heavy Rain, GOW III, GTA Episodes etc) I am almost glad that GT5 is not releasing right now. Besides I still need to get a wheel before it does release :(

New high quality direct rip of the new trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54P9jX-ekno

Since this game was supposed to come out so long ago, I wonder if they've have to redo some of the graphics to keep up with other games

Since this game was supposed to come out so long ago, I wonder if they've have to redo some of the graphics to keep up with other games

They have. There was a recent screenshot comparison from a new build of a time trial demo running somewhere that showed increased detail in the roadside grass areas... and the "old" picture wasn't very old.

Hasn't there been at least 2 versions of Forza?

I haven't played it but it always looks spectacular in the screenshots.

I think Forza 2 and GT4 were close in release dates, but I do think GT4 did beat FM2 to the line...then FM3 has since come out. It is spectacular BTW...

With all the hatred that spread about FM3 by the "core community"...I think a lot of those guys will go to this...but that is about it. GT5 will get more 360 converts then true PS3 guys just because both of them have been "screwed" over by their beloved.

man that GT5 "nights" trailer was hot (despite the annoying music)

I think Forza 2 and GT4 were close in release dates, but I do think GT4 did beat FM2 to the line...then FM3 has since come out.

GT4 for PS2 came out in Feb 2005, a full three months before the original Forza on Xbox. Somehow Turn10 was then able to give us Forza 2 and 3 on X360 while Polyphony has another 8 months or so before they release GT5...maybe more, and still no damage modeling? I mean, come on! I'll still buy GT5 but I'm not an ardent fan of the series like I once was.

Cheers.

GT4 for PS2 came out in Feb 2005, a full three months before the original Forza on Xbox. Somehow Turn10 was then able to give us Forza 2 and 3 on X360 while Polyphony has another 8 months or so before they release GT5...maybe more, and still no damage modeling? I mean, come on! I'll still buy GT5 but I'm not an ardent fan of the series like I once was.

Cheers.

GT4 was pretty rushed also. Looking back at GT2 and GT3 they dropped alot of the gameplay that everyone really loved for the first 3 games of the series.

I remember having my PS2 hooked up to my DLP tv at the time and coming home so happy to play in HD. Only to be dissapointed that there wasn't nearly as much depth to the gameplay as 2 and 3.

GT4 for PS2 came out in Feb 2005, a full three months before the original Forza on Xbox. Somehow Turn10 was then able to give us Forza 2 and 3 on X360 while Polyphony has another 8 months or so before they release GT5...maybe more, and still no damage modeling? I mean, come on! I'll still buy GT5 but I'm not an ardent fan of the series like I once was.

Cheers.

I agree. I still hope it's a good game when it comes out, I'm just tired of waiting and not holding my breath anymore on this one.

GT4 for PS2 came out in Feb 2005, a full three months before the original Forza on Xbox. Somehow Turn10 was then able to give us Forza 2 and 3 on X360 while Polyphony has another 8 months or so before they release GT5...maybe more, and still no damage modeling? I mean, come on! I'll still buy GT5 but I'm not an ardent fan of the series like I once was.

Cheers.

Yea, and they have had huge steps with each addition.

Forza 2 was 2007...just looked that up. Then 09 for Forza 3. 2 years is a good turn around for new games I think...but, there are quite a few bugs in FM3...no show stoppers...but enough to make the hardcore community all pissy.

Plus, I bought the LCE for benefits, and now the LCE is no longer "L"...they just released all the benefits on Xbox Marketplace for purchase.

I want a GT5 for the whole racing genre...they need to release something so Turn10 can't just keep with the "same ol" way they act to their customers...

I just saw some damage modeling on the 'nights' video. Well yay! Still no release date though.

I just saw some damage modeling on the 'nights' video. Well yay! Still no release date though.

Likely Novemberish. I think the damage modeling might only be on the rally cars. That's the only thing I've seen them show in the trailers getting damaged

I wonder what year the cars are going to be.. Originally they were what, 2008 model year? Although I'm sure that adding cars can't be that hard.

I wonder what year the cars are going to be.. Originally they were what, 2008 model year? Although I'm sure that adding cars can't be that hard.

each car takes months to design from what I've read. Not only in modeling it accurately, but making sure it handles the same as the real thing too. I think it was like 6 months per car or something.

each car takes months to design from what I've read. Not only in modeling it accurately, but making sure it handles the same as the real thing too. I think it was like 6 months per car or something.

Yup... and then couple that with the fact they finally caved on damage modeling at a later time in the production cycle.

Oh, and if I see "Forza blah blah blah" in any post, I'm skimming over it. I don't give a shit about Forza, about comparing it, about how many games they've been able to churn out, DON'T CARE.

Yup... and then couple that with the fact they finally caved on damage modeling at a later time in the production cycle.

Oh, and if I see "Forza blah blah blah" in any post, I'm skimming over it. I don't give a shit about Forza, about comparing it, about how many games they've been able to churn out, DON'T CARE.

Forza 3 was very fun :P

Real note: I'll get excited about this game when i can physically put the blu-ray in the drive and play the FULL game

Oh, and if I see "Forza blah blah blah" in any post, I'm skimming over it. I don't give a shit about Forza, about comparing it, about how many games they've been able to churn out, DON'T CARE.

:crying2:

:crying2: :boxing:
Now, why would my post make you cry? Don't take it so hard. :hug:

Now, why would my post make you cry? Don't take it so hard. :hug:

Because you're making an "Official Thread" for a game that doesn't technically exist yet. :lol:

And all your hopes and dreams are still at least another 9 months from fruition.

Because you're making an "Official Thread" for a game that doesn't technically exist yet. :lol:

And all your hopes and dreams are still at least another 9 months from fruition.

8mo's in advance might have been a little early ;)

Because you're making an "Official Thread" for a game that doesn't technically exist yet. :lol:

And all your hopes and dreams are still at least another 9 months from fruition.

And that made you cry? You need to toughen up a little.

And that made you cry? You need to toughen up a little.

I know. And here you are crying about people mentioning Forza in a GT5 thread.

Forza 3 was very fun :P


It really is!

I know. And here you are crying about people mentioning Forza in a GT5 thread.

It would be like Ford designs a Hovercar...and announce they will have it in 3 years...8 years later...GM makes 2 different Hovercars, and Ford just keeps saying "No, wait...ours will be better".

Put up or shut up GT5...


And for the car modeling...they say 6 months...both companies say that...but they steal a LOT of models and sounds from the previous games...add to that the fact that GT5 will have 18 different Honda Civics (have to in order to get 1000 cars) and they could pump out 20 "new" cars each month.

Also, Co. are out road testing 2013 cars right now...if they want the advertising in the game, they would get a model to the game company to take their measurements...

Few months old but one of my fav user made traier: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeV69LQ_8Vs (the wait is STILL not over :lmao: )

Few months old but one of my fav user made traier: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeV69LQ_8Vs (the wait is STILL not over :lmao: )

:jawdrop:

That is crazy good looking...but most of the neat scenes are of people walking around, haha, won't be in the game!

Just said at GDC:

"Gran Turismo 5 WILL ship this year" (no date)

Just said at GDC:

"Gran Turismo 5 WILL ship this year" (no date)

If it doesn't ship this year, that'll mean I've been through 4 years of undergrad AND graduate school before its release. How sorry is that.

I'm also not one to care that much about review scores, but if this game doesn't at least get a 97 or 98, I'm going to LMAO.

If it doesn't ship this year, that'll mean I've been through 4 years of undergrad AND graduate school before its release. How sorry is that.

I'm also not one to care that much about review scores, but if this game doesn't at least get a 97 or 98, I'm going to LMAO.

considering the ps3 itself turns 4 in november, were people actually expecting GT5 to be a launch title?

Just said at GDC:

"Gran Turismo 5 WILL ship this year" (no date)

Wasn't that on some pamphlets from last years tokyo show? Announcing it would arrive in 2009?

Wasn't that on some pamphlets from last years tokyo show? Announcing it would arrive in 2009?

Deja'vu

Sony Says Gran Turismo 5 will Release by Next Christmas
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3171561

Whether Polyphony Digital will finally have the game ready is another matter.
By Kris Pigna, 12/01/2008


I love the 1st comment:

will be the best racing game out there i actually heard someone say gothem city racing was better than gt wow what a microsoft fagboy lolol this game is going to deliver everything it says


Haha, yea...deliver everything it says...except it will never deliver to the store!

Wasn't that on some pamphlets from last years tokyo show? Announcing it would arrive in 2009?

They recycled them since every company is going green.

It's gonne be hilarious a year from now when the game still isn't out and this is the "official" thread. I love GT but man the wait is retarded.

It's gonne be hilarious a year from now when the game still isn't out and this is the "official" thread. I love GT but man the wait is retarded.

I agree, they're fantastic games but if this game isn't epic then it's a dud.

Yamauchi: Nascar races will feature full damage, and he can "announce the launch date soon".

http://playstationlifestyle.net/2010/04/30/gran-turismo-5-nascar-cars-can-be-smashed-to-smithereens/

Just a smidgen of news, but hell, there just hasn't been any for a while.

An official launch date! I haven’t been this excited since, well, since the last official launch date :)

Hahhaha

Yamauchi: Nascar races will feature full damage, and he can "announce the launch date soon".

http://playstationlifestyle.net/2010/04/30/gran-turismo-5-nascar-cars-can-be-smashed-to-smithereens/

Just a smidgen of news, but hell, there just hasn't been any for a while.

They still can't even announce a release date? We're almost halfway through the year... if they're getting it out this year, they better be making an announcement pretty soon I'd think. I won't be surprised if its just before Christmas, but I also wouldn't be surprised at all if they said Q1 next year (or later).

Supposedly its 90% done


Gran Turismo 5 '90% done' - Yamauchi
By Tor Thorsen, GameSpotPosted May 4, 2010 8:00 am PT

Polyphony Digital head tells car-enthusiast magazine 140 full-time staffers are putting the finishing touches on the long-delayed $60 million PS3 racer.

Nearly five years ago, Gran Turismo 5 was teased as part of the the PlayStation 3 unveiling at Sony's 2005 Electronic Entertainment Expo press briefing. Two years ago, the public got its first taste of Polyphony Digital's $60 million game in the form of Gran Turismo 5 Prologue. Then, three and a half months ago, the racing game's planned March launch in Japan was scrapped, pushing back its US and EU launch indefinitely.

Last week, Polyphony Digital CEO Kazunori Yamauchi offered some public reassurance that the game is on track. "Gran Turismo 5 is about 90 percent finished," he told the UK racing magazine Inside Line. "There are currently around 140 people working on the project." To date, the Gran Turismo series has sold over 55 million copies.

Yamauchi offered his comments while speaking at the final race of the GT Academy, a program that trains European racing-game enthusiasts to drive real-life race cars. Cosponsored by Sony and Nissan, the competition will send French-born Jordan Tresson to the 2010 European GT Cup Series behind the wheel of a 420-horsepower Nissan 370Z GT4.

"Normally, video games are a closed genre," Yamauchi told the finalists. "If you are good at a golf or soccer game, it does not mean you can be a pro golfer or soccer player, but Gran Turismo is different. If you are really good at Gran Turismo, you can be a really good race car driver."

According to Inside Line, the Polyphony Digital chief is himself training for a race, next week's 24 Hours Nürburgring. In preparation, he recently completed a four-hour heat in a Lexus IS-F at the titular track in southern Germany. Yamauchi also revealed the cars that are in his own garage at home in Japan: a R35 Nissan GT-R, a Honda S2000, and a Ford GT.

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/driving/granturismo52/news.html?sid=6261010&mode=news

Supposedly its 90% done



http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/driving/granturismo52/news.html?sid=6261010&mode=news

Its been "90%" done since like 3 years ago.


2011 release date announced soon enough?

I love the fact that if you're good at driving a video game you could drive a race car.

I love the fact that if you're good at driving a video game you could drive a race car.

Yeah I laughed at that also.

What a joke. Can't wait for the kids to start showing up at the track saying they will whoop up on everyone because they are good at Gran Turismo 5!

They should have just saved all the Nascar and Rally stuff for a different game. I understand they want to create the ultimate racing simulator but what good is it if no one gets to play it. The game would have been done by last year if they didn't keep adding and adding to it. They released like 2 or 3 GT games on the PS2 so I don't see why they couldn't just put some of the other stuff in a future game, or maybe even a Nascar and WRC DLC expansion

Also it's costing $60 million to make this? That's crazy. GT is Sony's most popular franchise, but I still have to wonder if theyll sell enough copies to get a good return on the money they spent to make this. I also think by delaying the game so long they've added a ton more pressure to themselves. Any minor glitches are going to be under the microsocope because of how long they had to create the game. GT5 almost has to be perfect in that sense, though from the looks of it, there's still a lot of things to nitpick about (e.g. limited damage modeling)

"Gran Turismo 5 is about 90 percent finished,"

75% could be considered "about 90%"

They should have just saved all the Nascar and Rally stuff for a different game. I understand they want to create the ultimate racing simulator but what good is it if no one gets to play it. The game would have been done by last year if they didn't keep adding and adding to it. They released like 2 or 3 GT games on the PS2 so I don't see why they couldn't just put some of the other stuff in a future game, or maybe even a Nascar and WRC DLC expansion

Also it's costing $60 million to make this? That's crazy. GT is Sony's most popular franchise, but I still have to wonder if theyll sell enough copies to get a good return on the money they spent to make this. I also think by delaying the game so long they've added a ton more pressure to themselves. Any minor glitches are going to be under the microsocope because of how long they had to create the game. GT5 almost has to be perfect in that sense, though from the looks of it, there's still a lot of things to nitpick about (e.g. limited damage modeling)

:bulb: Step 1: Finish SOMETHING and sell the friggin game. Step 2: Add all the DLC you want for free or a little bit of $ if you want. I'm sure people would gladly pay some for it.

They still can't even announce a release date? We're almost halfway through the year... if they're getting it out this year, they better be making an announcement pretty soon I'd think. I won't be surprised if its just before Christmas, but I also wouldn't be surprised at all if they said Q1 next year (or later).

I'd been wanting a nice wheel for racing games and almost bought one with the prologue bundle. Now that the Logitech one had the $30 rebate, i was ready to pull the trigger, but then i remembered that i didn't have any games to use it with and that this travesty won't be released for another 6-12 months so why bother.

New footage of Nurburgring in a Lexus (unsure of model)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZJ9Tg4_5eM

Watch at least until one of the long straightaways. Fast...

Where is the in car cockpit view?

Also, he SMACKS a wall 30 seconds into the race, and it doesn't affect him at all...wtf..."settings: professional driving physics without driving aids" my ass

Where is the in car cockpit view?

Also, he SMACKS a wall 30 seconds into the race, and it doesn't affect him at all...wtf..."settings: professional driving physics without driving aids" my ass

I guess we just assume that damage is a separate setting that was either disabled or not enabled at all for that demo. It doesn't necessarily mean he didn't have those other settings in place.

But yeah, I would have preferred to see the cockpit view. In the old games, I used to always use the nosecam view as well, but I'm looking forward to the cockpit view now, ESPECIALLY if the game ships with the PSEye head tracking support that was reported a while back.

I guess we just assume that damage is a separate setting that was either disabled or not enabled at all for that demo. It doesn't necessarily mean he didn't have those other settings in place.

But yeah, I would have preferred to see the cockpit view. In the old games, I used to always use the nosecam view as well, but I'm looking forward to the cockpit view now, ESPECIALLY if the game ships with the PSEye head tracking support that was reported a while back.

Basically, what I was getting at...that video shows me nothing...as an avid supporter of the Forza series, I want to see a competitive game! That video might as well have been Forza 2 for all we can tell...

And to me...driving physics are how the car handles which is related solely to that car, and in a future game, should be incredibly realistic...bouncing off a wall and going isn't good physics no matter how you look at it.

Basically, what I was getting at...that video shows me nothing...as an avid supporter of the Forza series, I want to see a competitive game! That video might as well have been Forza 2 for all we can tell...

And to me...driving physics are how the car handles which is related solely to that car, and in a future game, should be incredibly realistic...bouncing off a wall and going isn't good physics no matter how you look at it.

Sigh... again, the game has damage, it just obviously wasn't turned on in that demo. And again, that doesn't mean all other aspects of the driving/physics engine weren't in place.

There's plenty to see in this video if you have the eye for it.

They are working on damage. The reason it's taking so long is that they are taking cars out onto the track and testing to see how the body reacts to a number of situations one would encounter on the track. After each test they fix the damage and test again just cuz. I believe it's around 20k unique situations per car :)

Srsly release something already. I wanna drive an aston martin.

I'm not interested in this game at all but this was kinda jaw-dropping in the amount of detail:

http://kotaku.com/5543434/you-wont-believe-how-much-detail-gt5-has

Sorry for those at work but you gotta see pictures.

This video is better:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NVxGjqNrEE&feature=player_embedded

The guy biffs it a few times, not an expert driver, but it does show the 'Nurb with a cockpit view.

Oh and that screenshot showing reflections on the back of the side mirror is INSANE, heh...

They are working on damage. The reason it's taking so long is that they are taking cars out onto the track and testing to see how the body reacts to a number of situations one would encounter on the track. After each test they fix the damage and test again just cuz. I believe it's around 20k unique situations per car :)

Srsly release something already. I wanna drive an aston martin.

Where are you getting this information?

Where are you getting this information?

I was wondering the same thing.

http://forzamotorsport.net/uploadedImages/Media/Images/Forza_3_Fujimi_Kaido/Fujimi_Kaido_20_3.jpg

I'll be hating...

http://forzamotorsport.net/uploadedImages/Media/Images/Forza_3_Fujimi_Kaido/Fujimi_Kaido_20_3.jpg

I'll be hating...

And more than likely, Forza 4 will hit streets around the same time as GT5. :lol:

Sorry guys I made that up.

Sorry guys I made that up.

Sweet. Thanks for adding to the discussion.

How about we go with this instead:

http://www.gtplanet.net/new-gran-turismo-5-ps-move-rumors-emerge/

Yup.... delayed for MOVE and 3D >:(

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Come out please thank you

How about we go with this instead:

http://www.gtplanet.net/new-gran-turismo-5-ps-move-rumors-emerge/

Yup.... delayed for MOVE and 3D >:(

FFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

How about we jump to conclusions based on a vague quote.

How about we jump to conclusions based on a vague quote.

Plus, every comment I've ever heard about implementing the Move says that it is a very easy process. This could hardly create a ton of new development time by itself. I'm sure the majority of the delay now is caused by the damage modeling, which they waited too long to cave in on including.

How about we jump to conclusions based on a vague quote.

First of all if ever there was a site to trust about credibility of a rumor it's gtplanet... they are the hardcore nerds of GT some of who's obcessions with GT and KY borderline psychotic.

Then there is the fact that if you read it, the vague comment is all we had to go on until now, the actual article is about a confirmation of exactly what was originally expected from said vague comment.

Lastly it is probably the most believeable reasoning... the game has had a lot of demos and screens released over the last few years and there has been very little difference cropping up of late. Different demos get a few new features every now and then but there is nothing that could justify the delay reasonably other than retooling for 3D and move.

First of all if ever there was a site to trust about credibility of a rumor it's gtplanet... they are the hardcore nerds of GT some of who's obcessions with GT and KY borderline psychotic.

Then there is the fact that if you read it, the vague comment is all we had to go on until now, the actual article is about a confirmation of exactly what was originally expected from said vague comment.

Lastly it is probably the most believeable reasoning... the game has had a lot of demos and screens released over the last few years and there has been very little difference cropping up of late. Different demos get a few new features every now and then but there is nothing that could justify the delay reasonably other than retooling for 3D and move.

Pretty big difference between them saying it's a rumor

and you saying:

Yup.... delayed for MOVE and 3D >:(

That's why I said you jumped to conclusions. A rumor != Fact. There's a ton of reasons why it's been delayed. Adding Nascar, WRC, more cars, a night mode, and damage modeling also may have something to do with it you know.

Pretty big difference between them saying it's a rumor

and you saying:



That's why I said you jumped to conclusions. A rumor != Fact. There's a ton of reasons why it's been delayed. Adding Nascar, WRC, more cars, a night mode, and damage modeling also may have something to do with it you know.

A source close to Sony has confirmed to MCV that the reason behind the more recent of Gran Turismo 5’s delays is the implementation of both 3D and Move compatibility.

Confirmed that the reasons are 3D and move.

With PD and GT nothing is a fact until it's on the store shelf, but as far as rumors and "facts" at this point goes, it's not much in the realm of rumor.

And while there are a ton of reasons the only ones that make any sense at this point in the game are adding unexpected things late inthe game like move and 3D, mainly 3D as I expect that takes a lot of retooling to get the game to render two POV at the same time at a decent framerate at a decent resolution.

Judging from previous 3D articles they will likely suffer graphics capabilities to handle the load of the 3D. I hope this isn't what they are doing. Just release the game and let the people that actually care about that 3D crap buy other games.

Confirmed that the reasons are 3D and move.

You seriously don't grasp the concept of a rumor do you? Because an anonymous source who's "close to Sony" claimed something makes it a fact now? Are you new to the Internet, or how the media works? It's still a rumor until it's confirmed by Sony publicly. Not some anonymous source that some random blog/gaming site claims is a reputable claim. Even the site you linked to calls it a RUMOR not a confirmation. Nothing is confirmed about PS Move/3D delaying GT5. How you can't grasp the difference is beyond me.


Since you have a hard time differentiating between the two, I'll make it a little personal. Suppose there's a rumor based on a vague quote you made that you are a homosexual. Suppose someone "close to you" tells a site that you are definitely gay and suppose another site who deals with homosexuality covers that story and writes it up as a rumor that may possibly be true. Does that without a reasonable doubt confirm you are gay? That's the exact logic you're using above.

You seriously don't grasp the concept of a rumor do you? Because an anonymous source who's "close to Sony" claimed something makes it a fact now? Are you new to the Internet, or how the media works? It's still a rumor until it's confirmed by Sony publicly. Not some anonymous source that some random blog/gaming site claims is a reputable claim. Even the site you linked to calls it a RUMOR not a confirmation. Nothing is confirmed about PS Move/3D delaying GT5. How you can't grasp the difference is beyond me.


Since you have a hard time differentiating between the two, I'll make it a little personal. Suppose there's a rumor based on a vague quote you made that you are a homosexual. Suppose someone "close to you" tells a site that you are definitely gay and suppose another site who deals with homosexuality covers that story and writes it up as a rumor that may possibly be true. Does that without a reasonable doubt confirm you are gay? That's the exact logic you're using above.

As I said nothing with GT5 is confirmed fact until we get it in hand... not from Sony, not from KY... things keep changing... release dates, damage in or out, etc PD and KY are infamous for being very difficult to get info out of and even then it tends to change pretty often.

As for where and what I take to be beyond speculation, in every realm there are sources you trust more than others and sources who are as close as you will get to a complete low level explanation (for instance BP will not be revealing nasty details about their oil spill, but there are some sources you can trust to give you the straight scoop) and GTplanet and MVC are not exactly nobodies in the business of digging out the GT truth.

If we waited on official confirmation from developers before we discussed anything, this place would be even more boring. A lot more boring.

As I said nothing with GT5 is confirmed fact until we get it in hand... not from Sony, not from KY... things keep changing... release dates, damage in or out, etc PD and KY are infamous for being very difficult to get info out of and even then it tends to change pretty often.

As for where and what I take to be beyond speculation, in every realm there are sources you trust more than others and sources who are as close as you will get to a complete low level explanation (for instance BP will not be revealing nasty details about their oil spill, but there are some sources you can trust to give you the straight scoop) and GTplanet and MVC are not exactly nobodies in the business of digging out the GT truth.

Please explain to me how you can say something is confirmed when the site that you're using as support for saying it's confirmed is labeling it a RUMOR. Is it me, or does that not make any sense whatsoever.

If we waited on official confirmation from developers before we discussed anything, this place would be even more boring. A lot more boring.

That has absolutely nothing to do with anything I'm saying. Most people here have the sense to still discuss something a rumor when it is one (see the PSN+ thread), not talk about it like it's 100% confirmed y, even when the site they're citing says the complete opposite. I'm not against debating rumors obviously, but call them what they are.

Please explain to me how you can say something is confirmed when the site that you're using as support for saying it's confirmed is labeling it a RUMOR. Is it me, or does that not make any sense whatsoever.

Well I am not the one who was all wrapped up in confirmed and fact, I just put it out there. Now I have followed GT5 pretty closesly and believe me, in the world of PD and GT like I said, even right out of KYs mouth there is not much that is really confriemd or fact.

As for the sight saying it is rumored... it WAS rumored until it was reported confirmed.

I don't know if you bothered to click through to the source (which I guess I should have linked directly to although I personally think going through the GTP BS filter as it were helped the cause) but maybe this link will make you happier:

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/39126/Gran-Turismo-5-supports-Move-3D

Ok? Rumor was that 3d and move would be in, now it's been confirmed they are in and confirmed they were reason for delay. Happy?

This is too sad to continue really if you still can't tell the difference between rumor and confirmed. I won't continue this as I've already shown multiple times how silly your comprehension skills are.

Just give us a solid date at E3. Not too much to ask at this point...

(it probably is too much to ask)

New trailer featuring a retrospective
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2010/06/12/new-gran-turismo-5-trailer-revving-up-for-e3-expo-2010/

And a new tagline: "A new revolution is coming".

How about just a release date this week for starters?

New trailer featuring a retrospective
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2010/06/12/new-gran-turismo-5-trailer-revving-up-for-e3-expo-2010/

And a new tagline: "A new revolution is coming".

How about just a release date this week for starters?

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gamehunters/post/2010/06/gran-turismo-5-hits-the-road-november-2/1

November 2nd, can't wait.

i still dont know how they are gonna pull off dual rendering with those graphics... could make for one hell of a visual experience

psh the only thing that matters is THE STIG!

Apparently finally we get some info about the "Standard" cars... and it's pretty pitiful really...

No cockpit views, pretty crappy looking really and blacked windows during races... what were they spending all that time on? It coudln't really have taken that long to do just the 200 premium cars and tracks...

http://www.gran-turismo.com/jp/news/d9358.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8v7hjaSr6c&feature=player_embedded

Stig is gonna be in the game?

I think I'm going to get the game even tho I'm not a huge fan of racing sims.

I want to be able to test drive my Porsches/Ferraris, Lotus' and Buggatis before going to buy them! ;)

Stig is gonna be in the game?

I think I'm going to get the game even tho I'm not a huge fan of racing sims.

I want to be able to test drive my Porsches/Ferraris, Lotus' and Buggatis before going to buy them! ;)

Stig and the Test Drive track are both in!

i still dont know how they are gonna pull off dual rendering with those graphics... could make for one hell of a visual experience

I was reading something earlier and now I can't find the link (I think it was on engadget), but they were talking about Sony showing off it's 3D stuff and basically they kick down the resolution and the anti-aliasing to compensate for the doubling of the image.

3D mode will still be 1080P according to Sony: http://www.pushsquare.com/15671/e3-2010-wait-what-gran-turismo-5s-3d-mode-is-1080p-too/

The game took forever to make but the amount of content it has in it is enough for 2-3 racing games. They've got Nascar now, WRC, and a lot more.

3D mode will still be 1080P according to Sony: http://www.pushsquare.com/15671/e3-2010-wait-what-gran-turismo-5s-3d-mode-is-1080p-too/

The game took forever to make but the amount of content it has in it is enough for 2-3 racing games. They've got Nascar now, WRC, and a lot more.

To be honest, it seems pointless. If i wanted to play a nascar game, i would pick up a case of bud heavy/PBR and buy the EA version of it.

You mean an old EA version? The last game they made was in 2008. EA lost its Nascar license so Gran Turismo 5 is the only retail game that's going to have Nascar racing. Perhaps it won't be as deep as a standalone Nascar game, but I'm betting it'll look and feel more authentic. Plus you don't have to buy multiple games, that's always a good thing. This has to give GT5 a huge step up, but sadly I don't think Sony will market the game well enough to Nascar fans.

Ea NASCAR sucked balls anyways.

3D mode will still be 1080P according to Sony: http://www.pushsquare.com/15671/e3-2010-wait-what-gran-turismo-5s-3d-mode-is-1080p-too/

The game took forever to make but the amount of content it has in it is enough for 2-3 racing games. They've got Nascar now, WRC, and a lot more.

They have numbers but I have yet to be convinced the content will really be there...

So far the rally tracks we have seen are pretty blah... nothing exciting and they have that patented GT flat look to them... also no sign of point to point and staggered start races either.

As for NASCAR I believe currently they feature 9 NASCAR vehicles and only a handful of tracks. KY has said he wants it to be as realistic as possible but NASCAR has a lot of facets to address if you want to get it right... I could see it not being nearly as good as we expect also.

Then toss in that it's got 1000 cars but 800 of them are basically GT4 cars in higher res...

I dunno, the quantity is not really wowing me considering concerns about potential quality.

You mean an old EA version? The last game they made was in 2008. EA lost its Nascar license so Gran Turismo 5 is the only retail game that's going to have Nascar racing. Perhaps it won't be as deep as a standalone Nascar game, but I'm betting it'll look and feel more authentic. Plus you don't have to buy multiple games, that's always a good thing. This has to give GT5 a huge step up, but sadly I don't think Sony will market the game well enough to Nascar fans.

Oh ok, I didnt know EA lost their license. I guess I can't fault them for including something I hate,(and never care to play) but that im sure there are a ton of people who will buy it now on that fact alone.

I just wish they wouldn't tinker too much with a working formula and release it on time instead of including every feature under the sun in trying so hard to be the "ultimate racing sim".

As for NASCAR I believe currently they feature 9 NASCAR vehicles and only a handful of tracks.

The tracks I can see...maybe only the top 5, there aren't more then 20 anyway (they race most twice).

But what do you mean by 9 cars? There is only 4!!! (Chevy, Dodge, Ford, Toyota)

If you mean 9 paint schemes, you have got to be kidding...how could they not just pay some kid $200 to put in a couple liveries? Heck, some guys for Forza do it all for free and they look incredible!

The tracks I can see...maybe only the top 5, there aren't more then 20 anyway (they race most twice).

But what do you mean by 9 cars? There is only 4!!! (Chevy, Dodge, Ford, Toyota)

If you mean 9 paint schemes, you have got to be kidding...how could they not just pay some kid $200 to put in a couple liveries? Heck, some guys for Forza do it all for free and they look incredible!

:secret: Those aren't NASCAR cars...

:secret: Those aren't NASCAR cars...

:secret: (I know...haha, I couldn't find a picture of NASCAR cars in FORZA on google, and those just looked pretty)

:secret: (I know...haha, I couldn't find a picture of NASCAR cars in FORZA on google, and those just looked pretty)

ahhh... i c wut uu dyd nau...

Apparently finally we get some info about the "Standard" cars... and it's pretty pitiful really...

No cockpit views, pretty crappy looking really and blacked windows during races... what were they spending all that time on? It coudln't really have taken that long to do just the 200 premium cars and tracks...

http://www.gran-turismo.com/jp/news/d9358.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8v7hjaSr6c&feature=player_embedded

I read something recently that said they spent TWO YEARS building just one of the new tracks. Of course, they mean concurrent with other development, but still. Also, all the cars' bottoms are modeled now too, because there will be flipovers.

I am sure they've been spending all that time on... well, just everything.

I don't care about 3D (won't be even considering buying one of these TVs for quite a long time), but it will be fun to use the PS Eye for the head tracking feature... assuming that this feature can be enabled alone and doesn't also require a 3D setup to use. The head tracking by itself should create a nice 3D illusion, a la that now famous Wii demo from a couple of years ago.

11-02-2010

I was so hyped for Gran Turismo 5 for a few years, but my hype has pretty much died since playing so many other AAA sim and arcade racers this generation.

I still want to play it, so yeah, I'll buy it, but I'm just not excited anymore.

Apparently finally we get some info about the "Standard" cars... and it's pretty pitiful really...

No cockpit views, pretty crappy looking really and blacked windows during races... what were they spending all that time on? It coudln't really have taken that long to do just the 200 premium cars and tracks...

http://www.gran-turismo.com/jp/news/d9358.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8v7hjaSr6c&feature=player_embedded
you know it could mean they don't go into the interior details that they give to the premium cars

Im sure there's still a cockpit view....

But then again i recall you just keep bashing GT so why am i bothering.

My brother is fully prepared to plop down a full size racing seat in front of his giant plasma screen when this comes out. And even though he just bought the plasma within the last six months he already wants to purchase a 3-d set just for this game. He is kind of a gear head and loves the series.

My brother is fully prepared to plop down a full size racing seat in front of his giant plasma screen when this comes out. And even though he just bought the plasma within the last six months he already wants to purchase a 3-d set just for this game. He is kind of a gear head and loves the series.

http://www.amazon.com/Playseats-Limited-Motorsport-Evolution-Racing/dp/B002LDYAW8/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1277091791&sr=8-5

http://www.amazon.com/Playseats-Limited-Motorsport-Evolution-Racing/dp/B002LDYAW8/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1277091791&sr=8-5

Thats basically what he wants to do. He would probably buy a real seat and make a frame himself though.

The tracks I can see...maybe only the top 5, there aren't more then 20 anyway (they race most twice).

But what do you mean by 9 cars? There is only 4!!! (Chevy, Dodge, Ford, Toyota)

If you mean 9 paint schemes, you have got to be kidding...how could they not just pay some kid $200 to put in a couple liveries? Heck, some guys for Forza do it all for free and they look incredible!

I wonder if it was a licensing cost thing or what... but considering they hold the NASCAR license it seems like a waste indeed... and haven't heard anything particularly about a livery editor lately either...

Anybody else have their doubts this will actually be on shelves 11/2/10? I'm not trying to flame or anything, but I would not be surprised at all if we saw another delay..

It's never truly been dated. I don't see it being delayed anymore. Even if Polyphony knows some shit needs patching they'll probably be forced by Sony to release and patch it later.

Anybody else have their doubts this will actually be on shelves 11/2/10? I'm not trying to flame or anything, but I would not be surprised at all if we saw another delay..

It's never truly been dated. I don't see it being delayed anymore. Even if Polyphony knows some shit needs patching they'll probably be forced by Sony to release and patch it later.

Yeah, I believe them too... for them to put it at the end of the E3 trailer pretty much equates to sticking their neck out on the chopping block. They have surely told Polyphony to deliver at all costs for that date.

Also, new news: (http://ps3.ign.com/articles/110/1100609p1.html)

Gran Turismo 5 will feature weather effects, stunt arenas, kart racing and – most excitingly – a track editor according to comments by Shuhei Yoshida, President of Sony Worldwide Studios.

"Not only will Gran Turismo 5 deliver an even more comprehensive set of cars and courses than gamers saw with previous iterations, it will also feature new game-enhancing graphical effects such as damage, night racing and weather," Yoshida told the official PlayStation site.

"These innovations are twinned with the option to join millions of like-minded individuals globally within the Gran Turismo community and to find a driving experience to suit," he continued, "Whether that is taking on the Top Gear test track, chucking cars around stunt arenas, go-karting, creating and sharing your own track or intense head-to-head races. Who, where and what to drive is completely down to the individual."


Kart racing! Hahaha....

A track editor had been hinted/rumored, but I guess now you can call it confirmed. "Stunt arenas" had not ever been mentioned until now, I'm pretty sure.

I want space cars!

I have strong doubts about the inclusion of Kart racing, and some of the other tings mentioned above. Those are pretty major things. If they were there wouldn't they have shown them at E3, even in their trailer? I think the part about Kart racing was lost in translation. I think he was most likely referring to rally cars or something

track editor! Mod nation meets GT!
make your own Laguna Seca

I think the part about Kart racing was lost in translation. I think he was most likely referring to rally cars or something

What about CART Racing???

Championship Auto Racing Teams

it is pretty cheap to buy a license for a defunct league I would have to imagine...GT5 now to feature CART with authentic XFL Team Logos!

Is this like EVERY racing game ever created packaged in one beautiful 3D bundle?

Polyphony - you're forgiven for the constant delays.

Is this like EVERY racing game ever created packaged in one beautiful 3D bundle?

Polyphony - you're forgiven for the constant delays.

How many chickens are you going to get out of all those Eggs, Husker?

I have strong doubts about the inclusion of Kart racing, and some of the other tings mentioned above. Those are pretty major things. If they were there wouldn't they have shown them at E3, even in their trailer? I think the part about Kart racing was lost in translation. I think he was most likely referring to rally cars or something

I am imagining more realistic go-kart type vehicles done GT style, not cartoony or arcade-like.

OK I was getting kinda "i'm over it" on GT5 but that trailer someone posted above looks friggen incredible. I'm coming back on board :P

welcome back to the crack!

OK I was getting kinda "i'm over it" on GT5 but that trailer someone posted above looks friggen incredible. I'm coming back on board :P

Which one?

Are there any deals to be had right now for the racing wheels?

Seems Dell and Best Buy have the Logitech Driving Force GT for $99. Easily the best wheel for that price, unless you want to get into their top of the line G27 and pay well over $200.

Amazon had the G27 for $180 after rebate... not sure if it's still going on. Go check!

Source (http://jalopnik.com/5679823/kazunori-the-%5Bgt5%5D-discs-are-being-stamped-as-we-speak)

We just asked Kazunori Yamauchi, the father of Gran Turismo, in an interview here at SEMA, the question on everyone's minds — when will GT5 finally be released? His response: "The discs are being stamped as we speak."
The picture above is Kazunori making a disc-stamping motion with his hands as he answered our query on the ever-shifting release date. We did talk about a number of different topics other than the release — and we'll have more coming shortly — but for the moment, we thought we'd at least bring you that response.

http://imgur.com/pmJEf.gif

I'll believe it when it hits store shelves. I've got a feeling they'll recall the stamped discs at this point to be honest.

At this point, can it possibly live up to anticipation/expectations? Unless it prints money and cooks me dinner, I think I'll be let down by the amount of time it took to release.

While this is good news, I'm a bit skeptical since they still haven't given a release date. Would it have been so hard to say "The discs are being stamped as we speak and will be released on XXX"?

While this is good news, I'm a bit skeptical since they still haven't given a release date. Would it have been so hard to say "The discs are being stamped as we speak and will be released on XXX"?

That's not up to PD, but Sony

says pushed to 2011 here

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6283427.html

lets put it this way.
If the games aren't shipped out by next week, they won't make holiday.
By shipped i mean if they're not loaded into an ocean container and shipped over to the US from Asia
Normal transit time from China to LAX is 16 days or so by ocean. Add at least 3 days for customs clearance/fcc check. Then its got a week or so to get to distributors throughout the USA.
From there, the distributors send them to their local chains (ie. bestbuy, gamestop, etc)

Thats a 30 day process right there, and that's if there's no delays in shipping (which there always is, vessels hardly ever get into port on time) and if sony's willing to spend the extra coin for it.
The logical thing to do is to send a portion to the west coast, then send a portion to the east coast.
However east coast ocean freight transit time is 30 days, which will have the games on the shelves maybe a week before xmas.

And i don't see sony paying 10X the cost to ship these games by Air freight.

ofcourse this is just the opinion based on my experience in the shipping industry.

lets put it this way.
If the games aren't shipped out by next week, they won't make holiday.
By shipped i mean if they're not loaded into an ocean container and shipped over to the US from Asia
Normal transit time from China to LAX is 16 days or so by ocean. Add at least 3 days for customs clearance/fcc check. Then its got a week or so to get to distributors throughout the USA.
From there, the distributors send them to their local chains (ie. bestbuy, gamestop, etc)

Thats a 30 day process right there, and that's if there's no delays in shipping (which there always is, vessels hardly ever get into port on time) and if sony's willing to spend the extra coin for it.
The logical thing to do is to send a portion to the west coast, then send a portion to the east coast.
However east coast ocean freight transit time is 30 days, which will have the games on the shelves maybe a week before xmas.

And i don't see sony paying 10X the cost to ship these games by Air freight.

ofcourse this is just the opinion based on my experience in the shipping industry.

That's assuming that discs are printed in one place. That might not be the case..

That's assuming that discs are printed in one place. That might not be the case..
true.

I don't even think about GT5 anymore, nor do I expect it until at least April/May of 2011 (Summer 2011). Its been so long this is practically Duke Nukem Forever Jr.

There is a Blu Ray stamping plant in Indiana that does the PS3 games as well. A year or so ago, a guy that works there was selling the 'imperfect' games on ebay for $20. So, they do have a few more days to get them out.

:lol: @ the .gif, stamping CD-Rs.

I don't even think about GT5 anymore, nor do I expect it until at least April/May of 2011 (Summer 2011). Its been so long this is practically Duke Nukem Forever Jr.

I really dislike the DNF analogy. It's not like DNF because DNF has never even had a release date. GT5 really exists, but yea PF love to take their time and upset fans w/ delays.

There is a Blu Ray stamping plant in Indiana that does the PS3 games as well. A year or so ago, a guy that works there was selling the 'imperfect' games on ebay for $20. So, they do have a few more days to get them out.

Haha I do remember that. I picked a bunch up.

:confused:

My hubby pre-ordered this game.

Hope gamestop will have this ready in a ps3/gt5 combo for black friday.

I really dislike the DNF analogy. It's not like DNF because DNF has never even had a release date. GT5 really exists, but yea PF love to take their time and upset fans w/ delays.

Its a common analogy really, I don't love it but couldn't think of a better one.

Maybe GT5 can be compared to Alan Wake...that took forever to come out.

Hope gamestop will have this ready in a ps3/gt5 combo for black friday.

:lol:

lets put it this way.
If the games aren't shipped out by next week, they won't make holiday.
By shipped i mean if they're not loaded into an ocean container and shipped over to the US from Asia
Normal transit time from China to LAX is 16 days or so by ocean. Add at least 3 days for customs clearance/fcc check. Then its got a week or so to get to distributors throughout the USA.
From there, the distributors send them to their local chains (ie. bestbuy, gamestop, etc)

Thats a 30 day process right there, and that's if there's no delays in shipping (which there always is, vessels hardly ever get into port on time) and if sony's willing to spend the extra coin for it.
The logical thing to do is to send a portion to the west coast, then send a portion to the east coast.
However east coast ocean freight transit time is 30 days, which will have the games on the shelves maybe a week before xmas.

And i don't see sony paying 10X the cost to ship these games by Air freight.

ofcourse this is just the opinion based on my experience in the shipping industry.

How does this process differ from, say, ordering a laptop from HP? HP was saying that all those Envy laptops would ship around 11/12, which is considerably faster than the above.

:facepalm: I see it now. Air freight...

How does this process differ from, say, ordering a laptop from HP? HP was saying that all those Envy laptops would ship around 11/12, which is considerably faster than the above.

:facepalm: I see it now. Air freight...
yeah HP'll Next day Air it by FedEx/UPS to you.

Gran Turismo 5 will finally arrive on November 30 in the US - if a date on an official Sony website is anything to go by.

SonyStyle.com, which acts as an online store for Sony products, has Gran Turismo 5 available for pre-order along with a release date.

Source (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=273769)

That 11/30 date was around since the delay first came out so who knows. I actually think the end of November, early December would be better considering everyone is talking about Kinect now, and GT5 wouldn't get as much coverage from media outlets. Could that be the reason Sony delayed it?

Based on how short this delay seems to be, It certainly sounds like it could have been done to add some sort of protective measure against jailbreaking.

More Leaked Copies of Gran Turismo 5 Out in the Wild (http://www.gtplanet.net/more-leaked-copies-of-gran-turismo-5-out-in-the-wild/)
As carefully spotted by our highly observant forum users, what appears to be more real, legitimate copies of Gran Turismo 5 are sneaking their way out into the world. The first leaked disc originated from Australia – and they’re now showing up in Europe. Early copies of the German GT5 Collector’s Edition (just the game box, without the extra goodies) were posted to a Czech Republic auction site and quickly snatched up. We’re waiting for more confirmation (screenshots, videos) now.

I want a PS3 just for this game :(

woohoo - i got a KMART $20 off coupon to use by the end of the month....if i can get this with it...HECK YES!

More posts on gtplanet.net with alot more information. Their site is getting pounded right now.

Sony should be feeling the pressure to release this.

woohoo - i got a KMART $20 off coupon to use by the end of the month....if i can get this with it...HECK YES!

:secret: (in the event you are unable to purchase GT5 before the coupon expires) buy a game for $60 using the coupon and money, return game for store credit, purchase GT5 whenever it comes out.

Source (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=273769)

If the game was coming out this month, I would expect a lot more info flowing out from offical sources. I doubt the game is coming out in three weeks...unless the site means November 30th of 2011!!

Source (http://jalopnik.com/5679823/kazunori-the-%5Bgt5%5D-discs-are-being-stamped-as-we-speak)



http://imgur.com/pmJEf.gif

like the picture!!!

LOL!!!!

i have a strong feeling we will get it before this Xmas...

If not, then let's wait for the bundled sale of GT5 and PS4.....

I want a PS3 just for this game :(

LOL!!!

this is what i did..

bought a PS3 for COD7 and GT5..

but now i am hesitating to buy call of duty 7.

but uncharted 2 is great!!!

This delay has all of a sudden made me want this game + wheel+ stand (that and i've been watching top gear lately- I don't even like cars). It's viral advertising at its finest.

:secret: (in the event you are unable to purchase GT5 before the coupon expires) buy a game for $60 using the coupon and money, return game for store credit, purchase GT5 whenever it comes out.

thanks - i will keep that in mind :-)

This delay has all of a sudden made me want this game + wheel+ stand (that and i've been watching top gear lately- I don't even like cars). It's viral advertising at its finest.
top gear's a great show, you don't even need to be a car enthusiast to love the stunts they pull

Not sure how i feel about Top Gear USA starting next week...

top gear's a great show, you don't even need to be a car enthusiast to love the stunts they pull

Not sure how i feel about Top Gear USA starting next week...

TG USA will never be what original TG was/is. It should still be good though. Was hoping for someone a little more mainstream as a host, but Foust should be ok. I would have loved to see Pastrana or Gitten Jr. as one of the host - someone who isn't afraid to break stuff.

TG USA will never be what original TG was/is. It should still be good though. Was hoping for someone a little more mainstream as a host, but Foust should be ok. I would have loved to see Pastrana or Gitten Jr. as one of the host - someone who isn't afraid to break stuff.

Foust should be alright. It's the other 2 guys I'm not sure about.

the problem is top gear's funny as they're not afraid of insulting people and being un PC

I doubt the US Show hosts will be the same, as they'd be run out of the country.

I mean seriously, how many times a series does clarkson make fun of gay people?

Foust should be alright. It's the other 2 guys I'm not sure about.

Yeah I thought Foust would be just OK, I kinda discounted the other guys from the start. I was hoping it would be Adam Carolla from "The Man Show" and other shows, because I know he is a car nut. Turns out is some other Adam who seems less than interesting. My guess is the show will not last long...but I do hope that it blows up like the UK version.

yeah, we just need to find our Sabine Schmitz

yeah, we just need to find our Sabine Schmitz

Someone with the passion/skill/humor of Jay Leno, but who isn't uber-famous already.

Yeah I thought Foust would be just OK, I kinda discounted the other guys from the start. I was hoping it would be Adam Carolla from "The Man Show" and other shows, because I know he is a car nut. Turns out is some other Adam who seems less than interesting. My guess is the show will not last long...but I do hope that it blows up like the UK version.

Adam Corolla was actually in the first go-round for Top Gear USA, along with Foust and Eric Stromer (?). Then NBC passed on it and History Channel picked it up and replaced Adam and Eric but kept Foust.

I'm worried that the humor will be lost and that they'll focus more on "manly stuff" like monster trucks instead of making limos out of Fiat Pandas.

Adam Corolla was actually in the first go-round for Top Gear USA, along with Foust and Eric Stromer (?). Then NBC passed on it and History Channel picked it up and replaced Adam and Eric but kept Foust.

I'm worried that the humor will be lost and that they'll focus more on "manly stuff" like monster trucks instead of making limos out of Fiat Pandas.
or the destruction of campers and RV's

the problem is top gear's funny as they're not afraid of insulting people and being un PC

I doubt the US Show hosts will be the same, as they'd be run out of the country.

I mean seriously, how many times a series does clarkson make fun of gay people?

Yea since Top Gear is on public TV they don't care about offending any sponsors.

Adam Corolla was actually in the first go-round for Top Gear USA, along with Foust and Eric Stromer (?). Then NBC passed on it and History Channel picked it up and replaced Adam and Eric but kept Foust.

I'm worried that the humor will be lost and that they'll focus more on "manly stuff" like monster trucks instead of making limos out of Fiat Pandas.

Yeah I knew he was in it for the "pilot" so-to-speak, but they dropped him. Probably either a) asked for too much money or b) he was the humor/angle the fans would want but the network would NOT want relative to PC issues like azanai mentioned.

But I think you are right - I could see them trying to be "manly" instead of "unique" and end up like everything else and get dropped. The chemistry is what allowed TG UK to take off, in my opinion, and all the other stuff filled in. I am talking about when they had all 3 hosts, not just the 2 at the start.

http://kotaku.com/5688346/gran-turismo-5-has-a-release-date-for-reals-really-reals-seriously

I guess I was wrong about it not releasing before Xmas...

It's official! Gran Tursimo 5 is out in less than 2weeks! Nov. 24.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2010/11/12/gran-turismo-5-release-date-confirmed-for-november-24th-2010/


Finally! Time to dust off the Logitech GT wheel and get ready!

good news indeed. i was just going to post this.

That's good, but they should have probably waited till early December to allow for a bigger marketing push of the game. I doubt we'll see much in the form of commercials, billboards, etc.. for the game with that date. This is Sony's biggest franchise, yet they may not sell as many copies because of how badly they've screwed up with these delays.

That's good, but they should have probably waited till early December to allow for a bigger marketing push of the game. I doubt we'll see much in the form of commercials, billboards, etc.. for the game with that date. This is Sony's biggest franchise, yet they may not sell as many copies because of how badly they've screwed up with these delays.

I don't agree, releasing right before Black Friday is way better than early December. I've seen commercials and other marketing stuff weeks ago. Not as much as Halo or CoD but..

I don't agree, releasing right before Black Friday is way better than early December. I've seen commercials and other marketing stuff weeks ago. Not as much as Halo or CoD but..

The game won't be in any local ads (Best Buy, Walmart, etc..) and people are going to be using their money on all of the other stuff that they know are coming out during Black Friday since they'll already have the ads by then. So no, I don't think that's a good time at all. I guess we'll see how well the game does. Without all these delays, it had the potential to be a good system seller, but now I'm not really sure.

I also think it's a bad date with regards to getting review copies to all media outlets. There's a good chance the game won't have many reviews when the release date is 12 days away. Some people won't even get their copy by then i'm betting. The whole thing feels too rushed in order to make it for the BF sales bump by consumers, but that could backfire in a number of ways.

I think racing fans, while frustrated, will still buy this. Also, there are a lot of people new to the PS3 that may have just heard of it. Despite all the problems, this game will likely still sell well and be competitive with Forza 3.

Does anyone even care any more? :lol: I guess 3.5 years late is better than never. :roll:

While it's good it's out, the final car and track list is dissapointing... less tracks than GT4, missing some of the long time favorites and awesome tracks like Citta di Aria, Paris and Seoul.

About 80% of the cars are just GT4 models jammed into GT5 and aren't the super high quality stuff that's always shown in the promo videos and the new weather and night time racing effects are only avaialble on a handful of tracks....

I am still getting it because I need a GT fix, but for those thinking about it, just know what you are (or aren't) getting for your $60...

That's good, but they should have probably waited till early December to allow for a bigger marketing push of the game. I doubt we'll see much in the form of commercials, billboards, etc.. for the game with that date. This is Sony's biggest franchise, yet they may not sell as many copies because of how badly they've screwed up with these delays.
http://www.gamerlive.tv/article/nascar-driver-joey-logano-announces-gran-turismo-5-will-ship-later-month
http://www.gojoeylogano.com/images/Gran-Turismo-5-at-Texas.jpg
http://www.gojoeylogano.com/images/Gran-Turismo-5-NASCAR.jpg
they got the press out, Logano raced it this weekend for the nationwide series.

Yes its Nascar, we dont care here in the Northeast, but i'd say they got the marketing out.

While it's good it's out, the final car and track list is dissapointing... less tracks than GT4, missing some of the long time favorites and awesome tracks like Citta di Aria, Paris and Seoul.

About 80% of the cars are just GT4 models jammed into GT5 and aren't the super high quality stuff that's always shown in the promo videos and the new weather and night time racing effects are only avaialble on a handful of tracks....

I am still getting it because I need a GT fix, but for those thinking about it, just know what you are (or aren't) getting for your $60...
you know the tracks'll be added as DLC

then again you rag on this game for the past year....

So along with a relase date, PD have dropped the car and track list... the question is... what happened?

First the cars (for those who don't know, standard is basically just the GT4 model stuffed into GT5, it doesn't have a modeled interior and the outside is relatively low poly and most features like panel gaps and door handles are drawn on rather than actually built into the model - these cars also don't take much damage, only scratches and scufs, no major dents or parts falling off and do not have a cockpit view amongst many other shortcomings compared to premiums. Premiums are what you see in pretty much ever GT5 video and are basically what we had in GT5P):

http://www.gran-turismo.com/local/jp/data1/products/gt5/carlist_en.html

So many are starnards that really begged to be premium (Veyron is standard?) and the famous GT duplicates are in there en force with some cars having over 20 varieties of the same model.

And of those premium cars, a large number are ones we already saw in GT5P and some of them are NASCAR and or duplicate models (ie the Swift gets two models counting as seperate cars).

But the tracks...

http://www.gran-turismo.com/local/jp/data1/products/gt5/courselist_en.html

The tracks are equiavlent to levels in a racing game, and after all this time we get 10 real world tracks, less than 20 fictional tracks (noteably missing some long time GT favorites like Paris, Seoul and Cita di Aria) and despite putting NASCAR into GT5 they skip out on two NASCAR courses Infineon and Montegi...

Then to top it all off, the whole weather and day/night thing only applies to a small handful of the tracks and often only to certain layouts of that track?

So for those who haven't been paying attention a lot, I feel like PD has been kind of selling a lie by omitting details about what all is really in the game and only showing a few choice super pretty videos and pictures so now you know what you are really shelling out $60 for.

I will still be getting it because sadly I need a GT fix, but for those who aren't die hard fans, just want to make sure you know what you are getting so you aren't dissapointed.

you know the tracks'll be added as DLC

then again you rag on this game for the past year....

I don't know that, you don't know that, no one knows that. KY has said he is against DLC and honestly after this long it seems we shouldn't have to rely on DLC, especially if it turns into paid DLC just to get near the same number of tracks as GT4.

I rag on this game becuase it's taken 6 years and at every turn something new and dissapointing comes up that's rag worthy.. I am a die hard GT fan and I pay a lot of attention to the series... believe me, if it was all good news I would be the first to be super positive about it, but so far for every good thing we hear about, we find out two or three bad things. I mean can you list anyhting I have said that isn't both: True and Dissapointing?

Didn't think so...

:yawn:

No one cares

yeah the car list is pretty weak.

Just so everyone is clear, they meant Nov 24th, 2036

:yawn:

Not much of a GT fan eh SSJ?

yeah the car list is pretty weak.

Gotta hand it to T10... they did a good job picking the car list for their game... I wish we could somehow squish PD and T10 together and get a game that had the benefits of both series.

Was there zero overlap between one GT release to the other in the past?

I don't know that, you don't know that, no one knows that. KY has said he is against DLC and honestly after this long it seems we shouldn't have to rely on DLC, especially if it turns into paid DLC just to get near the same number of tracks as GT4.

I rag on this game becuase it's taken 6 years and at every turn something new and dissapointing comes up that's rag worthy.. I am a die hard GT fan and I pay a lot of attention to the series... believe me, if it was all good news I would be the first to be super positive about it, but so far for every good thing we hear about, we find out two or three bad things. I mean can you list anyhting I have said that isn't both: True and Dissapointing?

Didn't think so...
then don't buy it

noone gives a shit about you being debbie downer.

:yawn:

I don't get it... ? Do you mean nobody cares what's in the game?

then don't buy it

noone gives a shit about you being debbie downer.

Look around... the Sony Defense Force is having to work extra hard right now... the Debbie Downers, as it were, are rapidly becoming the majority.

You got all that from my yawn? Maybe take a look at Dev's post history w/ regards to GT for the reason I yawned.

:lmao:

Was there zero overlap between one GT release to the other in the past?

GT3 clocked in with significantly less content than GT2 (in large part because they did not import GT2 assets into GT3, however 80% of GT5 cars are basically GT4 cars just slammed into the GT5 engine)... but with that exception, every GT has kind of stood on the shoulders of it's predicessors to great success...

What we see here is a MASSIVE step back from GT4 in a major area of the game which I just can't really undestand... I mean the missing tracks list almost sounds better thant he included tracks list...

Circuit Valencia
Infineon Raceway
Motegi
Spa
Driving park (includes test course)
Complex String
El Capitan
Grindwald
Midfield
Red Rock Valley
Tahiti Road
Citta da Aria
Costa de Amalfi
George Paris
Hong Kong
New York
Opera Paris
Seattle
Seoul
SSR11
Cathedral Rocks
Green Forest
Grand Canyon
Ice Arena
Pikes Peak
Smokey Mountain
Swiss Alps
Tahiti Maze

Look around... the Sony Defense Force is having to work extra hard right now... the Debbie Downers, as it were, are rapidly becoming the majority.
im looking, all i see are the usual haters on GT ripping about the delays lol.

But hey if you feel you need to make ANOTHER GT thread to just post the content, whatever makes you feel special

gonna merge all the stuff into here as this is an official thread neway

GT3 clocked in with significantly less content than GT2 (in large part because they did not import GT2 assets into GT3, however 80% of GT5 cars are basically GT4 cars just slammed into the GT5 engine)... but with that exception, every GT has kind of stood on the shoulders of it's predicessors to great success...

What we see here is a MASSIVE step back from GT4 in a major area of the game which I just can't really undestand... I mean the missing tracks list almost sounds better thant he included tracks list...

Circuit Valencia
Infineon Raceway
Motegi
Spa
Driving park (includes test course)
Complex String
El Capitan
Grindwald
Midfield
Red Rock Valley
Tahiti Road
Citta da Aria
Costa de Amalfi
George Paris
Hong Kong
New York
Opera Paris
Seattle
Seoul
SSR11
Cathedral Rocks
Green Forest
Grand Canyon
Ice Arena
Pikes Peak
Smokey Mountain
Swiss Alps
Tahiti Maze

Correct me if I'm wrong but are you

1.) Bitching that took too many cars from GT4

as well as

2.) Bitching that they didn't take enough tracks from GT4

Correct me if I'm wrong but are you

1.) Bitching that took too many cars from GT4

as well as

2.) Bitching that they didn't take enough tracks from GT4

No... bitching that that they just reused the car models from GT4 (rather than actually making them better quality to, you know, go with a game that took 6 years get done) and bitching that they cut out a lot of the best tracks from GT history.

Kind of a diference there...

Basically I am bitching that in 6 years of promising perfection and only showing choice eye candy shots, it turns out they have LESS tracks than previous verions and the vast majority of cars in the game are just ports of a last generation (game and hardware) game assets.

You all that from my yawn? Maybe take a look at Dev's post history w/ regards to GT for the reason I yawned.

Well, Dev could have a point in his post if it is in fact true. With all the delays under the guise that they were refining the game, and it turns out that majority of the car models are from GT4...that would be a load of crap.

Well, Dev could have a point in his post if it is in fact true. With all the delays under the guise that they were refining the game, and it turns out that majority of the car models are from GT4...that would be a load of crap.

And the very reason I bring it up is for people like you (no ofense intended) who have been mislead by the PD marketing team and the Sony Defense Force...

Here you can see that indeed they are the same models:

http://www.playstationuniversity.com/gt5s-standard-cars-just-upscaled-gt4-models-4028/

And here KY says so himself.

As Yamauchi discusses his game, there's a sense that he'd work on it for another five years if he could. He Proudly announces over 1000 cars for the game but its with a degree of resignation that he confirms only 200 of those are new models for GT5."there are actually going to be two types of cars included in the game," he says. "we have over 800 cars that are from GT4 and GT PSP upscaled for the graphics engine of the PS3 and the 200 Premium cars


Kazunori Yamauchi - the head of PD - said himself that the they are just imported GT4 (or PSP) models.

Also they don't even have cockpit view as in that shot you always see in GT5 promo where you can see the wheel and dashboard... the standards don't even have that.

The list of things missing/half assed is quite astonishing actually, and while it sounds awfully negative nelly to bring it all up, it's all true so who's fault is that really?

Well, Dev could have a point in his post if it is in fact true. With all the delays under the guise that they were refining the game, and it turns out that majority of the car models are from GT4...that would be a load of crap.

This is info that was known for like a year now if not longer. Anyone thinking there'd be less cars from GT4 than new premium cars is either naive or plain stupid. I'm positive Dev himself said that 80% of the cars are from GT4 months ago, it's not new information. This is also an ongoing trend with GT games. Nearly every single GT game has overlap from previous games.

Also you're getting a pretty one-sided view of the game from dev. He ignores everything else the game has going for it including a custom track designer (so people could make any track they want), damage modeling, Kart racing (lol), night mode, internal cockpit views (yes even on GT4 cars), nascar and rally car racing modes, etc... If you listened to Dev you'd think they did nothing but copy and paste GT4 in the last few years and just twiddled their thumbs.

I personally don't care for the GT series but if I was a fan, and I was hating what I was seeing for YEARS and bitched about it for YEARS then guess what? I wouldn't buy the game.

And the very reason I bring it up is for people like you (no ofense intended) who have been mislead by the PD marketing team and the Sony Defense Force...

Here you can see that indeed they are the same models:

http://www.playstationuniversity.com/gt5s-standard-cars-just-upscaled-gt4-models-4028/

And here KY says so himself.



Kazunori Yamauchi - the head of PD - said himself that the they are just imported GT4 (or PSP) models.

Also they don't even have cockpit view as in that shot you always see in GT5 promo where you can see the wheel and dashboard... the standards don't even have that.

The list of things missing/half assed is quite astonishing actually, and while it sounds awfully negative nelly to bring it all up, it's all true so who's fault is that really?

Thank you for confirming what I just said. The quote you posted from Kaz isn't anything new. Did you or did you not know that 80% of the cars were from GT4 before you got the official car list today? I googled that quote and it's from July 13th. Yet now you're making it seem like this wasn't known by GT fans for months now? I wonder who is deluding who here.....


And if the standards don't have cockpits how do you describe this cockpit view of the Miata in leaked videos from the previous week?

Thank you for confirming what I just said. The quote you posted from Kaz isn't anything new. Did you or did you not know that 80% of the cars were from GT4 before you got the official car list today? I googled that quote and it's from July 13th. Yet now you're making it seem like this wasn't known by GT fans for months now? I wonder who is deluding who here.....

The standard cars thing is not new news, however the extend to which they are gimped has been a constant trickle through PDs marketing filter. Basically PD knows they hvae these huge gaps and have been covering it as best they can with really waffly answers and no details.

Up until just a few days ago there were still plenty of people arguing that Standard cars were gonig to be improved by the time GT launched and even official PSM magazine said "all standard cars will look better than anything you have seen in GT5P" which is pretty much hooey.

More importantly WHICH cars were standard and premium was not known until now.

BTW go out there and see how many GT fans actually know that... look at almost any forum post or thread bout GT and you will see plenty of people have no idea what standard cars are or what it means... PD has been very crafty in keeping that info downplayed as much as possible, just like they did with tracks.

You seem to think this is all just generally accepted and well known info or something... it's not... by far most people have no idea and expect GT5 to be basically GT5P but with 1000 cars and at least as many tracks as previous GTs and PD has been very good about not lying while not clarifying that that is not indeed what it will be.

KY himself has been asked directly many times what "over 20 locations with over 70 courses" means and he has always given a waffle answer that leaves people wondering whether GT5 could really honestly have only 20 tracks or whether it was something like 20 countires with 70 tracks spread between them.

The problem with GT and why this news is actually NEW is that it's a constant battle to pick through what PD says and what it means.

I don't know if you are playing Sony Defense Force or you really think that this is common knowledge and everyone just knew... but either way, I assure you plenty of people are entirely in the dark about this stuff and now that it's official it's not even a case of "well maybe you misunderstood" or "we have time, it might be better before release".

As for standards and cockpits I would say that

1: What's more than ridiculous is that they've managed to cram this mode into the game, yet the standard car models will not have a cockpit view. Kaz said that they tried to implement the black frame cockpits for all of the standard cars, but realized that they wouldn't be able to finish in time.
Read more: http://g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/706989/gran-turismo-5-gets-new-cars-modes-and--karts.html#ixzz156N4E0GE

2: I believe that Miata was a premium (if it's the one I am thinking of, want to link to the vid you are thinking of?) as it had clear windows and standards all have tinted windows.

See here's the thing SSJ, you clearly don't really know what you are talking about... I am pulling info out of memory you don't even know about (I have probably literally forgotten more about GT5 than you ever knew) and you are trying to tell me my info is a yawn... the ironic thing is, you are one of the missinformed... you just don't realize it :)

actually i think SSJ's playing the same angle i am

We dont' give a shit. Im gonna buy GT5, he's not gonna buy GT5.
I'll buy it cause I like GT, and i'll form my opinion on it when i purchase it.
SSJ won't because he doesn't care for it.

The wild card is you dev, why the fark would you buy it if you're so annoyed and hateful on the way it was produced. Are you sadistic or something?

**EDIT**God damn is anyone else double posting when they reply once?

The thing you don't realize is I don't give a shit. and 99% of the people here don't either. You live and breath GT? You know all the details from memory and want to be condescending about that? Wow here's a "no one gives a shit" ribbon you can stick on your cardigan. Your rants are so tired and extremely repetitive, they're also incredibly boring to read which makes it seem like you have zero sense of humor. You'd be better to waste your wall of texts on a group of people who\ actually gives a shit next time.

edit: Thank you Azianai

actually i think SSJ's playing the same angle i am

We dont' give a shit. Im gonna buy GT5, he's not gonna buy GT5.
I'll buy it cause I like GT, and i'll form my opinion on it when i purchase it.
SSJ won't because he doesn't care for it.

The wild card is you dev, why the fark would you buy it if you're so annoyed and hateful on the way it was produced. Are you sadistic or something?

**EDIT**God damn is anyone else double posting when they reply once?

And as I said, I am getting it because despite knowing it's shortcommings I have been setup and strung along so long wanting it, I have given up and will just get it for what little there is still in it that I was looking forward too. It's like driving across down through rush hour traffic to wait in a long line at your favorite restaraunt only to find out they are out of the 3 things you really like... you just go "f*ck it, gimme the mac and cheese, I can't be bothered".

But I don't like what PD has done with their marketing, and despite basically being a beaten wife of the GT monicker, I think it's important that people know what they are paying their $60 for without the PD sales filter and basically lying to them.

Those of us who still buy it anyway for whatever reason, fine, but I know what it's like to buy something under a false impression and in this case I don't even think it's reasonable to expect an average consumer doing their homework could figure out the truth. It's all so buried with official PSM magainze even giving false info...

So the wild card is I am someone who doesn't want to see a bunch of people get shafted based on GTs name and history over what's really in the box.

And as I said, I am getting it because despite knowing it's shortcommings I have been setup and strung along so long wanting it, I have given up and will just get it for what little there is still in it that I was looking forward too. It's like driving across down through rush hour traffic to wait in a long line at your favorite restaraunt only to find out they are out of the 3 things you really like... you just go "f*ck it, gimme the mac and cheese, I can't be bothered".

But I don't like what PD has done with their marketing, and despite basically being a beaten wife of the GT monicker, I think it's important that people know what they are paying their $60 for without the PD sales filter and basically lying to them.

Those of us who still buy it anyway for whatever reason, fine, but I know what it's like to buy something under a false impression and in this case I don't even think it's reasonable to expect an average consumer doing their homework could figure out the truth. It's all so buried with official PSM magainze even giving false info...

So the wild card is I am someone who doesn't want to see a bunch of people get shafted based on GTs name and history over what's really in the box.
and i'll bet you noone really cares what you type and the QQing you're doing, if they're gonna buy the game before, you're QQing won't stop them from buying it.

btw, you need to post in bold and green like anonymouse, then it'll be a great wall of text.

Seeing as how Gran Turismo is the franchise that first came up with the thought of popularizing microtransactions, I doubt many of those tracks are really "missing." Many will probably become available, just not at the base price of $60.

This game will sell a lot, especially in PAL territories. Assuming this game also moves consoles over there (and here), their being able to release it in time for the holiday shopping season is HUGE for Sony, as the worldwide difference between PS3 and Xbox360 total console sales is now down to a mere 3.8 million entering the holidays.

Seeing as how Gran Turismo is the franchise that first came up with the thought of popularizing microtransactions, I doubt many of those tracks are really "missing." Many will probably become available, just not at the base price of $60.

This game will sell a lot, especially in PAL territories. Assuming this game also moves consoles over there (and here), their being able to release it in time for the holiday shopping season is HUGE for Sony, as the worldwide difference between PS3 and Xbox360 total console sales is now down to a mere 3.8 million entering the holidays.
oh no H00t, don't you know? They haven't said they're gonna release it on DLC so you know its not coming right?

so for those of us that know NOTHING about GT5.....(i had GT1 and 2 for the PS1) - if i buy this, am i going to get the same experience? Loads of cars, getting licenses before racing, tons of race modes, customizing cars, and getting it all in HD? cause if all that is still included, yea, count me in :)

The thing you don't realize is I don't give a shit. and 99% of the people here don't either. You live and breath GT? You know all the details from memory and want to be condescending about that? Wow here's a "no one gives a shit" ribbon you can stick on your cardigan. Your rants are so tired and extremely repetitive, they're also incredibly boring to read which makes it seem like you have zero sense of humor. You'd be better to waste your wall of texts on a group of people who\ actually gives a shit next time.

edit: Thank you Azianai

OK so let me know if I got this right:

I am a GT fan... a nerd... yup totally admit that. I have followed GT 5 closely for years now (mostly becuase I always think I will be following it for just a few more months until it's released and then it gets pushed back) and I know a lot about what I am talking about... this is somehow bad... I am a video game nerd, in a video game forum who knows what I am talking about and that's bad...

You don't care about GT5... you don't like it, you know you don't like it and you don't want it. So you come into GT5 threads to tell people that what they have to say is old news (despite not knowing it yourself) and that they are wrong (despite you being the one who is wrong...

So doesn't that make you a troll... and actaully the most pathetic kind of troll because you are literally going out of your way to troll people about something you don't even care about?

I mean I admit it's kind of sad and nerdy to be caught up in a video game a lot, but hey, that's what a video game forum is for... you however seem to not even have that to falll back on.. you literally have nothing better to do than go and troll people by being wrong about something you don't even care about?

Man... that's rough... I mean even if what I care about is kind of sad and nerdy, at least I am not reduced to going and bothering people about things I don't even care or know anything about...

Did you get banned from Gamestop or something? :lmao:

and i'll bet you noone really cares what you type and the QQing you're doing, if they're gonna buy the game before, you're QQing won't stop them from buying it.

btw, you need to post in bold and green like anonymouse, then it'll be a great wall of text.

You'd loose that bet... I have had several people say they were going to buy the game but now that they realize what it's all about feel their money is better spent elsewhere.

Your logic is interestingly flawed... I am always amazed by people who think that GT is somehow a game of "will buys and won't buys"... I guess it's the common gamer mentality... we forget that the vast majority of video game sales go to casual gamers (yes even GT sales) who aren't nearly as polarized as we are.

so for those of us that know NOTHING about GT5.....(i had GT1 and 2 for the PS1) - if i buy this, am i going to get the same experience? Loads of cars, getting licenses before racing, tons of race modes, customizing cars, and getting it all in HD? cause if all that is still included, yea, count me in :)

Yes and no.

You will get licenses, lots of cars and lots of racing, even some race mods. But unlike previous GTs, there is a class system in place with the cars where many of them don't qualify for these features so you can't really say "you will get race mods" because depending on which car you have you may get extensive mods or not mod options. In HD? Well it will be in 1080p... but the models used in 80% of the cars are from GT4... so imagine GT4 in an emulator running at 1080p and that's kind of what you will get from those. It's not gonna be like GT5P or pretty much all the cars you have seen in videos of GT5.

This is why I bring stuff like this up... GT5 is doing something very few games do... it's basically selling a Beta product that is has features strewn randomly around to some parts of the game and not to others... to what extent that bothers or doesn't bother you is kind of personal. But it's one of the few games I have seen take it to this extent, so I think it's worth doing your homework on... for some it's going to be just fine, for other's it's going to be a feeling of "WTF what did they spend 6 years on?" where you fall on that scale is something you can only figure out by either spending the $60 or doing some homework so you can know what you are getting into.

But honestly, if you haven't been in it since GT2 and you like the idea of GT, I think you are pretty safe to go for it...

You are in!

so for those of us that know NOTHING about GT5.....(i had GT1 and 2 for the PS1) - if i buy this, am i going to get the same experience? Loads of cars, getting licenses before racing, tons of race modes, customizing cars, and getting it all in HD? cause if all that is still included, yea, count me in :)

And the very reason I bring it up is for people like you (no ofense intended) who have been mislead by the PD marketing team and the Sony Defense Force...

Lol, no offense taken but I'm not sure how you're categorizing me.

This is info that was known for like a year now if not longer. Anyone thinking there'd be less cars from GT4 than new premium cars is either naive or plain stupid. I'm positive Dev himself said that 80% of the cars are from GT4 months ago, it's not new information. This is also an ongoing trend with GT games. Nearly every single GT game has overlap from previous games.

Also you're getting a pretty one-sided view of the game from dev. He ignores everything else the game has going for it including a custom track designer (so people could make any track they want), damage modeling, Kart racing (lol), night mode, internal cockpit views (yes even on GT4 cars), nascar and rally car racing modes, etc... If you listened to Dev you'd think they did nothing but copy and paste GT4 in the last few years and just twiddled their thumbs.

I personally don't care for the GT series but if I was a fan, and I was hating what I was seeing for YEARS and bitched about it for YEARS then guess what? I wouldn't buy the game.

I will admit that I have no interested in buying the game, but I have been following some of the hype. The constant delays and excuses have made in interesting. I guess we'll all be more enlighted come November 24th.

You'd loose that bet... I have had several people say they were going to buy the game but now that they realize what it's all about feel their money is better spent elsewhere.

Your logic is interestingly flawed... I am always amazed by people who think that GT is somehow a game of "will buys and won't buys"... I guess it's the common gamer mentality... we forget that the vast majority of video game sales go to casual gamers (yes even GT sales) who aren't nearly as polarized as we are.
anecdotal evidence, oh no i'm proven wrong.

i just took a poll in my office, 2 people said they were gonna pickup GT5 (myself included), 4 have no clue what im talking about, and my boss is annoyed i just asked this question to him.

Being #7 in Amazon video games, and #2 behind Black Ops in PS3 games right now i guess means the casual gamer isn't gonna buy it :sadwalk:

You are in!
SO IN!
we should start a poll

actually i think SSJ's playing the same angle i am

We dont' give a shit. Im gonna buy GT5, he's not gonna buy GT5.
I'll buy it cause I like GT, and i'll form my opinion on it when i purchase it.
SSJ won't because he doesn't care for it.
The wild card is you dev, why the fark would you buy it if you're so annoyed and hateful on the way it was produced. Are you sadistic or something?

**EDIT**God damn is anyone else double posting when they reply once?

I will point out that SSJ is making quite a ruckus in the thread considering he "doesn't care for it". But that has never stopped us in the Gamers' Lounge, now has it?

I will point out that SSJ is making quite a ruckus in the thread considering he "doesn't care for it". But that has never stopped us in the Gamers' Lounge, now has it?
well dev called him the Sony Defense force, so he's obligated to make a fuss

kinda like when anyone attacks halo, our white friend phrozty will be around.
**GOD DAMN DOUBLE POSTING WTF**

well dev called him the Sony Defense force, so he's obligated to make a fuss

kinda like when anyone attacks halo, our white friend phrozty will be around.
**GOD DAMN DOUBLE POSTING WTF**

I think you're the only one having double post issues.

And no, he doesn't have to make a fuss. I ignore posts all the time if they just annoy me. :bounce:

Lol, no offense taken but I'm not sure how you're categorizing me.

I am categorizing you as the type of people who have a passing interesting in GT5, might be interested in it, and might be persuaded to buy it based on marketing info along and be dissapointed in what they get if no one helps point out the marketing BS to you.

Actually the vast majority of people fit into that category...

anecdotal evidence, oh no i'm proven wrong.

So your blind assumption is not trumped by my annecdotabl proof? Should I go get Galup to hold a poll?

i just took a poll in my office, 2 people said they were gonna pickup GT5 (myself included), 4 have no clue what im talking about, and my boss is annoyed i just asked this question to him.

Sample size of 6, INDISPUTABLE (anecdotal) evidence!

Being #7 in Amazon video games, and #2 behind Black Ops in PS3 games right now i guess means the casual gamer isn't gonna buy it :sadwalk:

Wait isn't that exactly what I said? The vast majority of buryers are casual gamers?

well dev called him the Sony Defense force, so he's obligated to make a fuss

Actually I said I wasn't sure if he was playing SDF... turns out he was just trolling...

kinda like when anyone attacks halo, our white friend phrozty will be around.
**GOD DAMN DOUBLE POSTING WTF**

I get a failed page and have to go back and resubmit every time... I think something is up with the forum...

So wtf is the point of telling people then?
As you just admitted, majority are casual gamers that will buy the game without caring about the specifics
wtf is the point of you're QQing then? What are you trying to prove with your post
You'd loose that bet... I have had several people say they were going to buy the game but now that they realize what it's all about feel their money is better spent elsewhere.

Your logic is interestingly flawed... I am always amazed by people who think that GT is somehow a game of "will buys and won't buys"... I guess it's the common gamer mentality... we forget that the vast majority of video game sales go to casual gamers (yes even GT sales) who aren't nearly as polarized as we are. '

How is my logic flawed, you either buy it or you don't
go look on amazon's page to see if you find people complaining about what you are and deciding they're not gonna buy it.
or gamefaqs.
Or ign
please show me a majority that are all in uproar.

btw what was your sample size on several people? 10?

You'd loose that bet... I have had several people say they were going to buy the game but now that they realize what it's all about feel their money is better spent elsewhere.

Your logic is interestingly flawed... I am always amazed by people who think that GT is somehow a game of "will buys and won't buys"... I guess it's the common gamer mentality... we forget that the vast majority of video game sales go to casual gamers (yes even GT sales) who aren't nearly as polarized as we are.

I also didn't know all this and while I was going to spend a ton of money on GT5 and chair, I will now hold off. I appreciate your taking the time to spread this relevant info.

So wtf is the point of telling people then?
As you just admitted, majority are casual gamers that will buy the game without caring about the specifics
wtf is the point of you're QQing then? What are you trying to prove with your post
'

Wow.. you completely got it backwards... the point is the hardcore are the ones who will buy or not buy... hardcore fans will buy because they are hardcore fans, hardcore haters will not buy because they are haters.

The vast majority of people are in the middle somewhere and will probably end up buying on marketing... and in the case of GT5, incredibly misleading marketing which is why I bother to bring this stuff up.

How is my logic flawed, you either buy it or you don't


When playing poker any hand has a 50/50 chance. You either win, or you don't.

Your logic is flawed because many people are on the fence or flip flop. If you honestly believe everyone is simply predisposed to either buy something or not, I would have to wonder why anyone spends money on advertising... after all they are either going to buy or not right?

go look on amazon's page to see if you find people complaining about what you are and deciding they're not gonna buy it.
or gamefaqs.
Or ign
please show me a majority that are all in uproar.

btw what was your sample size on several people? 10?

So lemme get this right, since you have never come across the specific people I am talking about here, they must not exist right? And IGN have you looked at the IGN GT5 forum? They were 3 pages into hating the track list minutes after it was announced...

There is plenty of hating and dissapointment going on out there... plenty of fanboy denialism and plenty of people who are just now wondering what GT5 is... if you think it's any other way, you are totally dilusional.

I also didn't know all this and while I was going to spend a ton of money on GT5 and chair, I will now hold off. I appreciate your taking the time to spread this relevant info.

Glad to have shed some light on it. I blew a big chunk of change on a PS3 and a G27 (and was inches from some kind of a playseat) a while back in anticipation of GT5... had I known then what I know now I would have scaled back and held off a bit...

This is info that was known for like a year now if not longer. Anyone thinking there'd be less cars from GT4 than new premium cars is either naive or plain stupid. I'm positive Dev himself said that 80% of the cars are from GT4 months ago, it's not new information. This is also an ongoing trend with GT games. Nearly every single GT game has overlap from previous games.

Just gonna correct SSJ on more stuff he doesn't know about but wants to troll about:

Overlap in previous games has NEVER meant that a lot of the cars were subpar. EVERY GT up until now has had all the cars of the same high qulaity. This is not just a case of "we have seen that car model in a previous game" this is a case of "They litterally took the exact model of the car (ie last generation quality) and stuffed it into GT5. The quality of the actual cars appearance is relatlively low, it's not just a case of the car list having the same names on it.

So if that's what SSJ was saying, no, no GT game has EVER had overlap like this before. Every GT has been entirely cars at least built for that generation of hardware and of comparable quality to all other cars in the game. None of this "no cockpits in 80%" and "only half ass damage to 80%" and "the car models we used were taken from a PS2 game".

http://www.playstationuniversity.com/gt5s-standard-cars-just-upscaled-gt4-models-4028/

Compare that to the premiums

http://www.gtplanet.net/66-stunning-gran-turismo-5-screenshots-18-megapixels/salzburg_redbullhangar7_lamborghinimiurap400bertoneprototype_b-2/

And no, that kind of thing has never happened in GT.

You know, now looking back on what you have posted, it's pretty clear you had even less of an idea what you were talking about than I thought... you thought when I said 80% of cars were from GT4 I mean that they just reused the car roster but still built them all for GT5 didn't you? You thought I was getting all whiny that GT5 doesn' thave 1000 cars we had never seen in any GT game before didn't you? You didn't even know that the standard cars were literally the game assets, the 3D models in all their PS2 glory, pulled into GT5 did you? I don't think you did... you didn't know that old news that everyone knows and there is no reason to say becuase it's yawnerific... how ironic ;)

Also you're getting a pretty one-sided view of the game from dev. He ignores everything else the game has going for it including a custom track designer (so people could make any track they want)

Correction, it's a random course generator that has 4 different base landscapes and you can tell it how long and how "twisty" you want it to be and it will lay out some track to those specifications. You cannot make any track you want, it's nothing like Modnation Racers or Test Drive VRalley editors... it's literally a random track generator with only 4 landscapes to choose from and I think max length of 10k. Also no point to point, must be a circuit.

So you can't go making Spa or Pikes Peak or anything like that, you can't even directly lay out the pieces, its done randomly and automatically by the game. There is a reason world famous tracks are famous... they are good... just a random collection of road to drive on in a circle does not necessarily make for a good racing experience.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/111/1113842p1.html

damage modeling

Damage modeling on standards is limited to scratch and dents, only premiums get "full damage" which is still not really full, a limited number of parts can fall off or get significantly damaged.

Here is one example of the GT5 damage model in action:

http://images.lazygamer.co.za/2010/09/gt5damage1.jpg

Here's Kotakus take on damage:

http://kotaku.com/5630851/lets-look-at-damaged-gran-turismo-5-cars/gallery/

Kart racing (lol),

There is one KART, it's 100cc and that's it.

night mode,

Only available on 3 tracks.

http://www.gran-turismo.com/local/jp/data1/products/gt5/courselist_en.html

internal cockpit views (yes even on GT4 cars),

Nope, not true, I even explained this to him already, this is apparently "old news" which is why he yawned at it, but he still gets it wrong somehow. KY himself clarified there are no cockpit views (not even black GTPSP borders) in standards. The GT website itself says "Standard cars do not support vehicle interior camera views".

What's more than ridiculous is that they've managed to cram this mode into the game, yet the standard car models will not have a cockpit view. Kaz said that they tried to implement the black frame cockpits for all of the standard cars, but realized that they wouldn't be able to finish in time. So, you get karts instead of cockpit views.

http://g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/706989/gran-turismo-5-gets-new-cars-modes-and--karts.html#ixzz156N4E0GE

nascar and rally car racing modes, etc...

There are (I believe) 11 NASCAR vehicles in the game and 2 NASCAR courses (I believe both ovals). You can't even populate a full field at that.

Rally got an even crappier deal, despite having the WRC license there are no official rally courses in GT5 and so far as we have seen Rally will still consist of multiple cars on track, not point to point timed races that real rally is about.

If you listened to Dev you'd think they did nothing but copy and paste GT4 in the last few years and just twiddled their thumbs.

If you listened to SSJ you would swear he either worked for Sony marketing team or doesn't know what he is talking about but likes to try and sound like he does. I am pretty sure he doesn't work for Sony so....

I personally don't care for the GT series but if I was a fan, and I was hating what I was seeing for YEARS and bitched about it for YEARS then guess what? I wouldn't buy the game.

For someone who doesn't like GT and doesn't care about it, you sure seem to be awfully interested in posting in GT5 threads and even more so you seem to (think) you know an awful lot about GT5...

What should be really embarssing is how little you know about it and how poor a troll that makes you... it must be awesome to be you and not have the ability to be embarassed by being so constantly wrong... I think you should ask yoruself: "Self, is it really worth getting proven so thoroghly ignorant of the stuff I pretend to know about just so I can go troll a game I don't even care about?"

One thing you are right about though... I am mostly talking about the negative side of things... but that's because PDs marketing is doing a great job of hyping the positive. I don't really need to do that as it would be totally redundant. And yes I know, WOT. Hey... it's not easy being right without being shortwinded... but I guess you wouldn't know would you SSJ? :)

I will point out that SSJ is making quite a ruckus in the thread considering he "doesn't care for it". But that has never stopped us in the Gamers' Lounge, now has it?

I didn't think I made that big of a ruckus. I pointed out some things people may not have noticed about dev's one sided little agenda. He makes all of this out like it's something new like it wasn't info known for months, if not years. That's it. And just because I point stuff like this out, he calls me sony defense force, yeah okay, whatever.

The only person truly making a ruckus here is Dev. Please notice how he dissected my simple post of what was included in the game (all of which are definitely in the game, except possibly standard cockpits) and tried to say something negative about each and every point and use it as some sort of analysis of why I don't know anything about the game. That's a special kind of person. I must have really bugged the shit out of this guy :lmao:

On a side note I absolutely love the victim card that dev used here btw, this shit is farking gold:
And as I said, I am getting it because despite knowing it's shortcommings I have been setup and strung along so long wanting it, I have given up and will just get it for what little there is still in it that I was looking forward too..

Look everyone, Dev has been pushed into a corner where he can't escape. Just look at what Polyphony did to him! They teased him for years and now he has no choice but to submit to a force much greater than his own :crylol::laugh1:::teehee:

That's all I'll say about Dev. I'll leave everyone to their own judgments about his obsession/compulsion with this franchise.

Well for anyone who cares here, the new release date is November 24th for North America and Europe.

i tried reading deve's wall of text...ADD kicked in and instead i stared at my red LED computer fans.

Aren't you happy to know Deve, your posts on SD may affect 0.00001% of the people who are deciding whether to buy the game or not?

Don't you feel your time's spent so well triple posting a wall of text?

THUMBS UP SOLDIER

I didn't think I made that big of a ruckus. I pointed out some things people may not have noticed about dev's one sided little agenda. He makes all of this out like it's something new like it wasn't info known for months, if not years. That's it. And just because I point stuff like this out, he calls me sony defense force, yeah okay, whatever.

The only person truly making a ruckus here is Dev. Please notice how he dissected my simple post of what was included in the game (all of which are definitely in the game, except possibly standard cockpits) and tried to say something negative about each and every point and use it as some sort of analysis of why I don't know anything about the game. That's a special kind of person. I must have really bugged the shit out of this guy :lmao:

On a side note I absolutely love the victim card that dev used here btw, this shit is farking gold:


Look everyone, Dev has been pushed into a corner where he can't escape. Just look at what Polyphony did to him! They teased him for years and now he has no choice but to submit to a force much greater than his own :crylol::laugh1:::teehee:

That's all I'll say about Dev. I'll leave everyone to their own judgments about his obsession/compulsion with this franchise.

Hey, you're learning!!! You managed to post an entire post without saying anything! This is good because it prevents you from being wrong!

I mean it would be better if you could find a way to be right, but since it's obvious you can't, this is a good step for you! Keep that chin up! Even a stopped clock is right twice a day, I'm sure you'll get your chance to shine!

i tried reading deve's wall of text...ADD kicked in and instead i stared at my red LED computer fans.

Aren't you happy to know Deve, your posts on SD may affect 0.00001% of the people who are deciding whether to buy the game or not?

Don't you feel your time's spent so well triple posting a wall of text?

THUMBS UP SOLDIER

Awww, that what you stoop too? I don't blame you... I hate it when I make a jackass of myself too... I mean when you get shown to be a mouth breather, it's good to live up to the reputation and start flinging your own poo... although I don't think I have ever taken it to the level you and SSJ seem to be able to! Hat's off to you!

If it makes you feel better, try making fun of my moms weight (she's kind of overweight you know) you can proabably at least be right about that!

Buck up kiddo... when you grow up you'll do better :)

This thread's pretty funny. So many great deals to be found here.

Anybody know a good deal on a Playseats Evolution racing seat? Now that the game might finally be out, might as well get set up.

This thread's pretty funny. So many great deals to be found here.

Anybody know a good deal on a Playseats Evolution racing seat? Now that the game might finally be out, might as well get set up.

Amazon had it for pre order $54.99 yesterday and a $10 future game coupon... haven't seen it less than that... there is a thread for pre order pricing aorund here somewhere...

GT5 is now the 4th bestselling game on Amazon's list and has shot up 1,700% in sales since the previous day. So I guess the word is getting out just fine, for online users at least. The PS3 has also jumped up 300% from the previous day.

GT5 is now the 4th bestselling game on Amazon's list and has shot up 1,700% in sales since the previous day. So I guess the word is getting out just fine, for online users at least. The PS3 has also jumped up 300% from the previous day.

Word that there is a relase date set? Yes I would thinik so.

The standard marketing bulletpoints being touted? I am sure.

The truth behind what those bullet points really mean (that which you seem not to like hearing) I am fairly sure not so much.

Yesterday the price dropped $5 on Amazon for one day also.

BTW stillpaying an awful lot of attention to a game you don't care about or want.. it's weird what with me being the obsessed one and all you know...

Amazon had it for pre order $54.99 yesterday and a $10 future game coupon... haven't seen it less than that... there is a thread for pre order pricing aorund here somewhere...

Hey man ... thanks for the response. Unfortunately, I was asking about the Playseat, not the game. When I saw your response I almost had a heart attack that the seat was for $54.99, but then I realized you were telling me the price for the game. I've actually already got the pre-order for the game from my local gamestop. I've had it for a few months now so it should be all good.

Thanks anyway. Search continues.

Hey man ... thanks for the response. Unfortunately, I was asking about the Playseat, not the game. When I saw your response I almost had a heart attack that the seat was for $54.99, but then I realized you were telling me the price for the game. I've actually already got the pre-order for the game from my local gamestop. I've had it for a few months now so it should be all good.

Thanks anyway. Search continues.

Hah sorry... yeah if you find a playseat for that price I will take 2... or all :)

I think playseat actually went on amazon for under $150 at one point... but not recently.

GT5 is now the 4th bestselling game on Amazon's list and has shot up 1,700% in sales since the previous day. So I guess the word is getting out just fine, for online users at least. The PS3 has also jumped up 300% from the previous day.

I think the PS3 jump had to do more with the free controller they were offering with the 160GB as a friday-only sale.
I thought too it could be the GT5 announcement, but then I noticed the promotion.

I think the PS3 jump had to do more with the free controller they were offering with the 160GB as a friday-only sale.
I thought too it could be the GT5 announcement, but then I noticed the promotion.

I was thinking that too after I posted that. Could be a little of both, but yeah more than likely the controller incentive. It's too bad Sony didn't create a GT5 bundle for the US, especially with that Blue PS3. It'd fly off the shelves.

this thread is crazy! anyways, what i think will happen to gt5 is the same thing burnout paradise did. constant up dates of adding things over the next year. whether or not they'll be free...i dunno. I played burnout from the begining and it's awesome how much the developers added to that game for free.

so who knows, maybe gt5 will over time add what it is currently lacking. i doubt it will be free dlc but maybe a mix of paid and free.

this is just my $0.02 and my prediction....we'll see in a year if i should pursue my psychic abilities :)

Is there anyplace that I can go to in order to try out a driving setup for this game? I've always hated playing realistic racing sims with a dual analog b/c it never felt right. However, I've never tried it with a wheel. If it turns out that the wheel makes that big of a difference, I might just invest in a setup but I guess is it worth dropping that much money for it?

Anyone know of a quality controller that more emulates the size of the 360 controller? Have this game preordered for the CE and went back to play some prologue last night only to realize how hard it is for me to play racing games on the PS3 (My hands are called lunchboxes ><).

Logitech or anyone make a better sized controller? May have to go to Fry's at lunch today and see if they have anything to try.

Is there anyplace that I can go to in order to try out a driving setup for this game? I've always hated playing realistic racing sims with a dual analog b/c it never felt right. However, I've never tried it with a wheel. If it turns out that the wheel makes that big of a difference, I might just invest in a setup but I guess is it worth dropping that much money for it?

Alot of Best Buys have demo's setup but all of the ones I have seen use a controller. A gamestop in florida had a racing seat setup though when I was there. Check out your local retailers. More and more are likely going to run GT5 demos.

This thread's pretty funny. So many great deals to be found here.

Anybody know a good deal on a Playseats Evolution racing seat? Now that the game might finally be out, might as well get set up.

I was going to buy this seat:

http://www.amazon.com/Playseat-NASCAR-Logano-Depot-Racing/dp/B003A4IFXM

It's expensive because it's a higher grade model than "evolution", but it's still about $130 cheaper than other comparable models (gamestop and nascar are is $580, fedex is $600, World Rally Championship (http://www.amazon.com/Playseat-World-Rally-Championship-Gaming/dp/B002IXC686) is $560 . This is the best deal on the best chair I could find.

I've pre ordered the game. Can't wait. Too bad I can't afford a wheel!

Hey does anyone know whats up with the collectors pack of GT5? I have been reading that you get some bonus cars? what cars? also I see gamestop is giving away some cars with preorder.

preorder.http://www.gamestop.com/gs/landing/granturismo5/?loc=homeflash1

http://us.gran-turismo.com/us/news/d5232.html

Collector's Edition Content Details:

* Gran Turismo® 5 game

* Exclusive limited edition 1:43 scale diecast 2009 Nissan GT-R Spec V with custom Gran Turismo livery designed by Polyphony Digital, produced by well-known collectible car maker Kyosho

* In-depth 300-page car-lover’s guide written by the experts at Polyphony Digital, covering everything from the history of the modern automobile to driving techniques and game reference material

* Custom etched Gran Turismo key chain

* Voucher for five (5) exclusive high-end cars with custom Gran Turismo livery and performance upgrades

* Numbered certificate of authenticity

* Custom collector’s packaging

What gamestop's doing is giving additional cars.

If anyone has been wondering what the GT5 car list is you can find it here..

http://www.gran-turismo.com/local/jp/data1/products/gt5/carlist_en.html

I wish I was into these games, I really would like that collector's set. I saw a preview of the book a while back and it looks sweet. Great set.

I wish Sony would have made some sort of bundle with a Logitech wheel, I'd probably bite

The game jacket used to include Driving Techniques, it was awesome. I remember studying that thing for days.

Anyone else use the full width of the lane when taking corners (inside-outside-inside) to get the shortest path through a corner? I love doing that on on-ramps, drives my wife crazy.

FWIW I can' tbring myself to fork over $40 more dollars for a book

FWIW I can' tbring myself to fork over $40 more dollars for a book

You also get a diecast 1:43 GT-R. I haven't pulled the trigger yet on the Collectors Edition but I'm seriously considering it.

Yeah I wouldn't mind the diecast car either, or even the keychain, but I'd probably get the most use out of the book. I'm not going to buy it anyway, unless there's some amazing deal for it. I did luck out with the Bioshock 2 and God of War III collector's editions a few months after they were released, getting them for $19.99 each at TRU. It could happen again! (likely not though). I actually think that GT5 set will be more limited compared to others

probably stated before but it's something I never realized. GT5 could actually be a system seller! Never knew the game had such a loyal following (I'm not very into driving games so I don't follow them and I won't be surprised if everyone says to me..."no shit sherlock") haha.

I got a buddy who loves GT games but generally doesnt like gaming. Out of nowhere he starts asking me about ps3 deals and I was like, wtf :confused:

Turns out in anticipation of this game he went and bought himself a ps3 yesterday. I loaned him UC2 and he's like..."Holy crap when did games get this good?" :lol: