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CoW]8(0)
02-14-2006, 12:43 PM
8(0);1689696']
I don't believe many are aware that their CPU (and in the near future, GPU) is sitting idle most of the time while their computer is constantly on. So why not put it to good use?

I propose that a slickdeals folding team be created. The slickdeals community is ENORMOUS would provide a large benefit to protein research for diseases such as Alzheimer's, Mad Cow (BSE), CJD, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease, and many cancers and cancer-related syndromes. I'm sure everyone here has had some sort of experience with at least one of those diseases, whether it be direct or indirect...

You can find more information here:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

One of the biggest complaints I hear is that users fear this will slow down their system. But this is simply NOT TRUE. The folding program uses IDLE CPU, any program which needs the CPU will have a higher precedence over the program. You can confirm this simply by checking the .exe's priority in the processes list. You'll find that it's set to 'Low'.



The team has been created (team number: 49191), but I'll still need help from the moderators/site owner to actually inform other SDers effectively. I'll also hand over the folding account to those with more time to deal with it...

Interested?

.The Boss
02-14-2006, 12:53 PM
Mr.SD says no to anything that will not benefit him.

If had the ability to do something about this as a site owner, I would do it.

slickdeals
02-14-2006, 03:04 PM
It needs to garner some support before we'll throw our weight behind it. BTW, I joined but it feels a bit lonely in there.

Starting the team and posting it here is a good start. You should probably edit your first post to tell people to join team SD instead. :)

CoW]8(0)
02-14-2006, 04:53 PM
Well to join a team, you need to find the assigned team number. I can handover the team account if you PM me what you want the email/password changed to...

r1yan
02-14-2006, 07:19 PM
There's also grid.org which is discussed in the OP's link. It doesn't wreck your computer. Currently there are 7 members on a team named "Slickdeals". But I don't know which one will be better (for their research or better for us). I'm just giving an option and will join whatever SD decides. Here's the link: http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?sduid=52412&t=176860&highlight=grid

xcgames
02-15-2006, 10:00 AM
team 49191!?!?!?

holy.... there are a lot of teams.

i'm done folding for hardforum, time to fold for slickdeals!

xcgames
02-15-2006, 10:39 AM
we also need some explaination as to what folding at home is.

It actually took me a couple years to go figure out what it was... :lol: i didn't know it was for research.

redsolar
02-15-2006, 02:10 PM
Since I have been running United Devices/Grid.org for over 5 years now, I joined team SlickDeals.net for United Devices (here (http://www.grid.org/services/teams/team.htm?id=45B3794A-BDE5-4490-9F64-E0D186C10C03)). I have been on the other team for a while, which I now rarely have affiliation with :).

UD/Grid does 2 types of workunits: Folding/Rosetta and Cancer Research/Ligandfit for those interested. I run it 24/7 on 3 PC as a service, which automatically restarts if it crashes.

xcgames
02-15-2006, 02:41 PM
are we going to get everyone to do this for grid.org or folding@home?

CoW]8(0)
02-15-2006, 03:07 PM
Well let's see what the benefits would be. I haven't looked into UD or Grid.org, Folding@home was so unintrusive I stayed with it...

It also comes to a question which is easier to setup for the average SDer?

redsolar
02-15-2006, 08:26 PM
8(0);2253866']Well let's see what the benefits would be. I haven't looked into UD or Grid.org, Folding@home was so unintrusive I stayed with it...

It also comes to a question which is easier to setup for the average SDer?
Both are simple. I run mine as a service, because I have a perpetual license for FireDaemon, which makes things simple. And since grid.org now does both cancer and folding, it's kind of a win-win imho. But it's a personal choice.

CoW]8(0)
02-16-2006, 08:02 AM
Well here's our member page for folding :)
http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=49191

...I assume slickdeals is slickdeals :)

Slickdeals, can you PM me the email I should set the account email to as well as the password to?

slickdeals
02-16-2006, 12:27 PM
Lets move over to grid.org.

xcgames
02-16-2006, 01:01 PM
Lets move over to grid.org.

what does that mean?

slickdeals
02-16-2006, 01:05 PM
Join the SD team over at grid.org.

http://www.grid.org/services/teams/team.htm?id=45B3794A-BDE5-4490-9F64-E0D186C10C03

CoW]8(0)
02-16-2006, 02:25 PM
Grid.org seems to only support Windows platforms. That may limit the folding power of some SD users.

xcgames
02-16-2006, 02:34 PM
8(0);2260347']Grid.org seems to only support Windows platforms. That may limit the folding power of some SD users.

GRID.ORG's interface is more interesting than stanford's, however stanford does support all 3 main OSes (win lin and mac)

redsolar
02-16-2006, 07:02 PM
8(0);2260347']Grid.org seems to only support Windows platforms. That may limit the folding power of some SD users.
True, but there is VMWare. There will be some overhead, but it works pretty well.

zachjowi
02-16-2006, 08:38 PM
I want to join but when I try to login it says "The username or password you have provided does not match the one in our records.

Do I need to get this information from one of you guys?

CoW]8(0)
02-16-2006, 09:07 PM
True, but there is VMWare. There will be some overhead, but it works pretty well.

Probably a bit more than some :) Folding does some fairly low level stuff...

redsolar
02-16-2006, 09:16 PM
8(0);2263079']Probably a bit more than some :) Folding does some fairly low level stuff...
Just RAM and CPU/Cache load... nothing more.

zachjowi - you need to register first (install grid.org agent) and then you will be able to log in and join. You can not use your SD login on grid.org :).

zachjowi
02-16-2006, 09:30 PM
Just RAM and CPU/Cache load... nothing more.

zachjowi - you need to register first (install grid.org agent) and then you will be able to log in and join. You can not use your SD login on grid.org :).
i did just what you said and it didn't work.

xcgames
02-17-2006, 03:12 PM
i did just what you said and it didn't work.

did you download the client from grid.org, not some worldgrid thingy?

i ran into the same problem, ended up i didn't register at grid.org at first.

use this link below to dl the client and register,

http://www.grid.org/download/gold/download.htm

redsolar
02-17-2006, 10:50 PM
Then go to this (http://www.grid.org/services/teams/team.htm?id=45B3794A-BDE5-4490-9F64-E0D186C10C03) link and join.

Gobo
02-20-2006, 11:25 AM
Joined up at work, I'll set up 2 more of my computers at home as well. Do I need different login names or can I use the same one on multiple machines?

earthdock
02-20-2006, 01:04 PM
Is there anyway we can have both the grid.org as well as folding@home? I'm already on folding and I don't want to start at another site.

CoW]8(0)
02-21-2006, 09:40 AM
Well it's not exactly efficient to run both Folding and Grid.org on a single CPU core. It's better to simply join one or the other (I personally recommend folding :)).

redsolar
02-21-2006, 10:33 PM
Joined up at work, I'll set up 2 more of my computers at home as well. Do I need different login names or can I use the same one on multiple machines?
Use the same login, this way all PCs will be reporting under the same account, giving you a combined score.

versatilebeats
03-01-2006, 10:54 PM
Joined both my laptop and my desktop at Folding at Home.

Neat trick with their software disables computation while you're on battery power. :nod:

Chachito
03-02-2006, 06:00 AM
This sounds very interesting, but is there a good layman's site that explains this whole thing and who exactly this is benefitting?

xcgames
03-02-2006, 09:13 AM
This sounds very interesting, but is there a good layman's site that explains this whole thing and who exactly this is benefitting?

one of the greatest challenges facing scientists is to find functions for all of the proteins that are encoded in the Human Genome. When human protein structures are known, scientists can use them to research disease treatments and cures.

Today only a fraction of the 30,000 Human Genome proteins have known structures and functions. Being able to predict the structure of every protein in an organism will contribute to our overall understanding of how those predicted proteins interact with the organism as a system. Can you imagine trying to fix a car or a machine knowing the function of only 30% of the components? That is the situation that biomedical and biological researchers, to their credit, operate in. Thus, anything that can shed light on these mystery proteins is highly valuable to the field of biology and medicine.

http://www.grid.org/projects/hpf/

Alden
04-12-2006, 01:09 PM
Joined Grid.org, under Aldenissin.

xcgames
04-16-2006, 12:35 PM
we should make this a sticky.

Fuzzy Wuzzy
04-18-2006, 08:16 PM
Joined Folding@Home under Fuzzy_Wuzzy.

Thanks op!

Nikayla
04-24-2006, 07:49 AM
I have never heard of any of this before. The instructions to join (and what it is) leave a lot to be desired.

I DL the program @ Grid.org and installed it.
At the end of installation it asks for you to fill out the UD Registration where you put in your name and password. What next? If I hit login I get username and password do not match.

I followed the link provided by Redsolar in post 24 I try to join SD group but get this message "Sorry . . . An Error Has Occurred
(Authentication Failed)
Please Try Your Request Again"

This sounds like a good idea. At grid.org we have 17 members. I think there may be more if there were more clear instructions posted. I am stuck, any advice.

What about someone editing one of your posts and giving instructions 1-10 with links on what to do and in what order? Making this faster will get more people to join. I am giving up for now and going to check out the hotdeals and freebies. LOL



World Community Grid's mission is to create the largest public computing grid benefiting humanity. Our work is built on the belief that technological innovation combined with visionary scientific research and large-scale volunteerism can change our world for the better. Our success depends on individuals - like you - collectively contributing their unused computer time to this not-for-profit endeavor.

Simply donate the time your computer is turned on, but would normally lie idle, for projects that benefit humanity. Like a screensaver, grid technology is easy to use, safe and free. When you are ready to use your computer, the grid software will shut itself off until the next time your computer is idle. To learn more, click on Become a Member. Or to start volunteering your PC time now

Participants of World Community Grid contribute computer time that normally would go to waste. This is the ultimate win-win situation. Your computer accesses World Community Grid's computing power to advance projects that benefit humanity. We provide the software that does it all for free, and you become part of a community that is helping to change the world.

Once you install the agent, you will be participating in World Community Grid. No other action must be taken; it's that simple!

The software runs only when your computer is on. It will automatically start when you start your computer and will run when your computer is idle. The more your computer is on, the more processing happens. The software doesn't need to be connected to the Internet to work its task, but once finished, it needs to reconnect to the Internet to return data it has finished working on and to get a new task. The software operates as any other Internet application, requesting an Internet connection from your computer.


Additional Instructions:

When the download is complete simply "double-click" on the 'ud_agent_setup.exe' file (in the location where you chose to save it) to begin the installation.
Follow the on-screen prompts to complete installation.
Following installation a LOGIN window will appear, choose a MEMBER NAME and PASSWORD.

Project Selection: When you install the software and create your user account you will be included in all current United Devices projects by default. If you wish to change your project selections at any time please follow the instructions contained in the Project Selection FAQ.

Please Note: If you have a LAN connection and are behind a firewall, you may need to enter proxy server information. To do this, click the SET PROXY button. (The proxy server settings require a valid IP address and must be input prior to attempting login.)

redsolar
04-26-2006, 09:47 AM
I have never heard of any of this before. The instructions to join (and what it is) leave a lot to be desired.

I DL the program @ Grid.org and installed it.
At the end of installation it asks for you to fill out the UD Registration where you put in your name and password. What next? If I hit login I get username and password do not match.

I followed the link provided by Redsolar in post 24 I try to join SD group but get this message "Sorry . . . An Error Has Occurred
(Authentication Failed)
Please Try Your Request Again"

This sounds like a good idea. At grid.org we have 17 members. I think there may be more if there were more clear instructions posted. I am stuck, any advice.

What about someone editing one of your posts and giving instructions 1-10 with links on what to do and in what order? Making this faster will get more people to join. I am giving up for now and going to check out the hotdeals and freebies. LOL
I hope you did not try to login using your SlickDeals.net login and password? We are not affiliated with Grid.org, it's something I personally think is for a good cause, and since my PCs are running 24/7, why not use those "wasted" CPU cycles.

If you have never logged into Grid.org before, you should register for a new account using the Grid.org application dialog upon first execution. Your SlickDeals account name may already be taken, so you may want to fiddle around with user names. But definitely do not attempt to login using your SlickDeals credentials - it will most likely not work, unless someone already exists with the same user name and the same password on Grid.org (which is highly unlikely).

After that you are ready to go, just don't forget to keep it running :).

PhucilliJerry
04-26-2006, 09:56 AM
I didn't know SD had a team, I just joined the team today, I've been doing this since '04 on my own, wish I'd known sooner.

rayzac
04-26-2006, 09:58 AM
Can someone please post instructions so I can add this to startup? I always forget to start the program when I turn on my laptop and am too lazy to look :)

Fuzzy Wuzzy
04-26-2006, 12:02 PM
Can someone please post instructions so I can add this to startup? I always forget to start the program when I turn on my laptop and am too lazy to look :)

http://www.download.com/Startup-Inspector-for-Windows/3000-2086_4-10452094.html?tag=lst-0-1

This may help. But I also use this program to take things out of startup.

redsolar
04-27-2006, 01:50 PM
Can someone please post instructions so I can add this to startup? I always forget to start the program when I turn on my laptop and am too lazy to look :)

You can create a shortcut to the application in "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\Startup", which will start any time you log in.
Otherwise, you can also create a Scheduled Task, if you don't want to log in all the time, and just set it to start upon PC startup as well.


Let me know if you would like a fully automated method, without the need to login, automatic restart upon termination, etc - it's a bit more involved, and instructions are available here (http://www.dslreports.com/faq/10697)

I have a prepetual FireDaemon license from the times they were free and some supported the development, so I use that as my service manager, which does automatic restarts if the process dies, and all. But the current license is $35, so it's kind of pointless, unless you need to run other apps that need service status.

DSLisFREE
04-30-2006, 04:30 PM
This thread needs to be move to a different place so that it will get the attention required. This is the first time I've seen it. Common, not a big percent of slickdealers go to the forum suggestion .

CoW]8(0)
04-30-2006, 08:48 PM
I've mentioned it a couples before....Still wating...

hunterr83
04-30-2006, 10:40 PM
How does everybody know we have 17 members? I can't find any information on the team page at grid.org. All it shows is the team leader and our team website and that's it. Doesn't show who is on the team or even how many members??

EDIT: Nevermind. I had to wait 2 hours for the information to update. It's fine now, lol.

Copperblade
04-30-2006, 11:00 PM
Hmmm, folding is interesting. I thought I might share with everyone the one I've been using: http://boinc.berkeley.edu/

The only problem with boinc is it seems to go whether it's idle or not, slowing down your system.

I used to use United Devices which I think got moved over to grid.org.

CoW]8(0)
05-01-2006, 10:21 AM
I would recommend joining the Folding@Home slickdeals team. It's much less of a hassle to setup and also supports Mac OSX as well as Linux.

See this thread (http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?t=145591) for more info.

flyers2391
05-04-2006, 06:47 PM
joined the grid team

xcgames
06-01-2006, 02:37 PM
8(0);2707725']I would recommend joining the Folding@Home slickdeals team. It's much less of a hassle to setup and also supports Mac OSX as well as Linux.

See this thread (http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?t=145591) for more info.

and it supports dual core, which grid doesn't. but as far as stability is concerned, grid.org is very stable and IMO easier to install than f@h.

redsolar
06-02-2006, 10:01 AM
and it supports dual core, which grid doesn't. but as far as stability is concerned, grid.org is very stable and IMO easier to install than f@h.
Grid supports dual core, but you need to run 2 processes if I remember right, which is somewhat of a hassle, but I am sure they are working on making it less tedious given the number of dual cores that came into the market lately.

Otherwise one can run F@H on one core and Grid on the other :).

xur17
06-06-2006, 07:53 PM
I don't know why we don't move this to a more accessible location. Here, no one really sees it. I just noticed it, and joined up.

mike27112
06-12-2006, 01:00 AM
just joined the folding @ home team. i thought the grid team was official, but the 41 members on f@h almost doubled grid's 22. if i'm going to be a distributed computing lemming, i might as well get in with the biggest crowd :)

btw, can anyone enlighten me to f@h's data integrity/redundancy policy? i'm plotting a cpu + mobo upgrade in the next few months, and i don't want to waste any number crunching.

* answer found in FAQ (whoulda thunk it? ;)):

"Are there any limits to how long my machine can take to finish a work unit (WU)?"

"Yes. Depending on the work unit, unfinished work units for most projects 'expire' and are reassigned to new machines. Since new WUs are generated by finishing old ones, we must keep things moving along by expiring units. As we move to longer WUs we will extend this time as needed. Expirations vary on the order of a week to a few weeks, depending on the nature of the WU. You will get stats credit for all units that you complete, even if they have expired, but they will not be as useful scientifically."

VTIndustries
07-29-2006, 09:56 AM
I don't know why we don't move this to a more accessible location. Here, no one really sees it. I just noticed it, and joined up.

I agree, even if it was just a temporary sticky for a couple of days in the hot deals forum or announcements, it would receive a lot more exposure.

Wilfred
07-29-2006, 07:46 PM
so........... F&H or gird that seems to be the only question?:rolleyes:

Edit: Joined Folding at Home

wellebh
07-31-2006, 11:26 AM
I'm going to get in on this as soon as I get home.

I'm glad I popped into the Suggestions forum to catch this - my computer is on 24/7.

PhucilliJerry
08-23-2006, 07:19 AM
Hey folders, don't know if any of you care but I thought I'd let you know that for those of you who do F@H, ExtremeOverclocking.com has a stats page for the top 1,000 teams, and since you guys are #799, you're on there:

http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=49191

It shows the teams you're closest to passing and the teams that are closest to passing you, production stats, top 20 producers on the team.......pretty kewl for stats junkies like me. I still consider WU's the most important thing but the "points" seem to encourage people to do more folding, which turns in more results. Some of the guys at EOC have even built folding farms, craziness.........

I fold for them and for Slickdeals but on the UD agent, I think I'll switch one of the UD's over to the SD F@H tonight.

PhucilliJerry
08-29-2006, 05:37 AM
Just wanted to say Congratulations to xcgames for hitting 1,000,000 points for the Slickdeals UD folding team, by far our biggest producer. Thanks for all the folding........
:worship::worship::worship:

FoianZ
09-28-2006, 06:48 PM
Nice!
I signed up after clicking a link on SlickDeals's signature... Can someone post the code so i can have it in mine 2?

xcgames
09-28-2006, 08:17 PM
Just wanted to say Congratulations to xcgames for hitting 1,000,000 points for the Slickdeals UD folding team, by far our biggest producer. Thanks for all the folding........
:worship::worship::worship:

thank you :)


I signed up after clicking a link on SlickDeals's signature... Can someone post the code so i can have it in mine 2?

what code are you talking about?

mike5051
09-29-2006, 06:26 PM
what code are you talking about?

I think he means the link for our F@H page.... Just use the link button when creating ur sig/profile and insert the code If thats what u meant... :) ...http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=49191

FoianZ
09-29-2006, 07:55 PM
I think he means the link for our F@H page.... Just use the link button when creating ur sig/profile and insert the code If thats what u meant... :) ...http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=49191
yup thanks

r1yan
10-20-2006, 07:09 PM
:bump:

PhucilliJerry
10-20-2006, 08:18 PM
:bump:

Good idea, let's hope some more people see this and join up......

PhucilliJerry
11-01-2006, 01:27 PM
Just wanted to welcome Xantus & anudewalrus to the F@H team!!!!!!!!! And anyone else who I missed........

Thanks for joining and helping the cause:woot: :woot:

See the teams stats here (http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_list.php?s=&t=49191).

darksarcasm
11-02-2006, 11:24 PM
How do I close the F@H console window without shutting down the core service?

How about making an offical sticky post in tech support? Invite users here to both the grid and fah teams.

PhucilliJerry
11-03-2006, 07:23 AM
How do I close the F@H console window without shutting down the core service?

How about making an offical sticky post in tech support? Invite users here to both the grid and fah teams.


Just hit the X in the top right, it will minimize to the system tray but still run.

That would be great, I 2nd your request for a sticky, anywhere on the SD site

SFcom
01-10-2007, 03:38 PM
Just wanted to say that I think this is a great idea. Even though I am late to the party, it is still a way to make a difference. I have compared the FW and SD stats on the Grid. See the picture below for detail. :vomit:

:bulb: :bulb: :bulb: I support the use of a sticky in order to more evenly balance out the presence of SD'ers there.:bulb: :bulb: :bulb:

http://www.savingsforecast.com/images/SDvsFW.jpg

I have been a lurker since BF 2006. I have decided to join here instead of FW. It didn't take me long to figure out where I'd rather be. ;)

Thanks,

-SFcom

Ravula
01-21-2007, 01:32 AM
Just joined. Thanks.

CoW]8(0)
02-06-2007, 11:40 PM
*UPDATE*
Awhile back I was watching this closely, and I just noticed that it's here: GPU FOLDING
http://folding.stanford.edu/FAQ-ATI.html

According to Folding@Home, GPU can fold MUCH more than CPUs. They even say GPU folding is on the magnitude of supercomputers.

Also, I really think there should be a sticky and somewhere on the front page. I hardly think it'll affect SD ad-revenue in any way, so I don't see why it's not there. And it's really time to give back, everyone has gotten something from this community (and I mean EVERYONE).

PhucilliJerry
02-07-2007, 05:15 PM
Come on Mods and Powers That Be, give us a sticky and a few pixels on the front page to get more people involved. We've only got 18 team members right now on F@H.............

Chef_
02-11-2007, 07:38 AM
Signed up for @ home. My last unit was submitted in 04...

PhucilliJerry
02-11-2007, 04:50 PM
Signed up for @ home. My last unit was submitted in 04...

Welcome aboard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SueM
02-11-2007, 05:51 PM
I'm totally new to this folding, I think. I did sign up one time on Juno (beg -mid 90's) when I first got on the internet, but I don't know if anything happened about that. This is neat with the icon on the bar and the ability to see progress being made.
Just one question- This means I can't turn off my computer until one of them is finished, right? I usually like to turn off at least once a week to refresh everything.

CoW]8(0)
02-11-2007, 11:44 PM
No, turning off your computer is fine it will resume from the last frame it completed.

BoUgS
02-12-2007, 07:27 PM
does anyone know which protocol (ftp or udp ) F@H uses, i no it uses port 8080. btw im in after deciding wether finding primes or curing cancer was more important

BoUgS
02-12-2007, 10:01 PM
w00t, F@H is now a sticky in the tech forums

CoW]8(0)
02-13-2007, 09:21 PM
Well now that we have a sticky in the forum, it's time to get through the next hurdle......A spot in the front page!

But before we do that, let's try to get everyone to link to this thread in their signatures. That should bring in more members.

redsolar
05-01-2007, 05:13 AM
Looks like grid.org has completed their project. There will be no more work units, so it's time to switch to folding@HOME full time (at least for me)

CoW]8(0)
05-28-2007, 10:04 AM
Well, it's finally happened. I have to admit, I wasn't sure if Mr. SD would ever get around to promoting this and I was getting tired of pushing it...

I guess it's time for me to come back to fold for Slickdeals again. I think my other team can do without me anyway, they've been in the #1 spot long enough...

Finally some momentum...

DigitalOverlord
08-31-2007, 11:39 AM
Well, I just found that SD has a team, and I'm thinking of switching. The team I've been folding for is a forum that I don't use much anymore. So my question is what do I do with all my installs that have the old team number? Is there a way to change it? Also, is there anything else I need to do to switch to the SD team?

Thanks!

BoUgS
08-31-2007, 12:46 PM
first the main folding thread is here

http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?t=362806

second for your question, if you are just running the normal FAH client, go in to your fah folder and type

FAH504-Console.exe -configonly

you can change your settings here

o and welcome to the team!