is this how sd users supposed to use their nerp power? I thought there should have been real reason to give a nerp. I have given very few nerps and for real reasons

a while ago I nerped ---- for the racist comment he/she made in the hot deals forum, when this user reached to 100 rep first thing he/she did was to nerp me, well I nerped back, couple days later xxxx nerped me with a comment "Use your nerp gun wisely" wth? looks like they work as a group :thumbsup: , and today received another nerp from ---- :applause: .

I really have no time to spend with these people, I hope SD administration will take care of this problem as they abuse the nerp power

The mod team was discussing about nerps yesterday and we're leaning towards removing nerps entirely. :gather:

The mod team was discussing about nerps yesterday and we're leaning towards removing nerps entirely. :gather:

so are the nerps been removed.

I can't say that I'm surprised. People have been ganging up on people because a friend of theirs was nerpped or got upset over something said or done. It wasn't intended to be used that way. Although I have never used my nerps I would suggest something along the lines of a warning.


edited to correct grammar...too cold to think straight. :cold:

sorry about what happened to you mem...one thing i cannot tolerate is racist comments. farkers.

Just out of curiosity, why do people get so involved in "repping" and "nerping"? Why even worry about it at all?

Just out of curiosity, why do people get so involved in "repping" and "nerping"? Why even worry about it at all?
:dontknow:

:dontknow:

:popcorn:

sorry about what happened to you mem...one thing i cannot tolerate is racist comments. farkers.

Yea, me either. There're two things I can't stand. Those who are intolerant to other cultures, and the Dutch......

Yea, me either. There're two things I can't stand. Those who are intolerant to other cultures, and the Dutch......
that made me laugh...
does that make me a bad person?

that made me laugh...
does that make me a bad person?

I did too. I think I should go to church. :)

Just out of curiosity, why do people get so involved in "repping" and "nerping"? Why even worry about it at all?It's too tempting for some to resist committing nerp abusement.

It's too tempting for some to resist committing nerp abusement.
Others are occupied with self abusement.

Others are occupied with self abusement.

:lol2:

The mod team was discussing about nerps yesterday and we're leaning towards removing nerps entirely. :gather:

While I was one of the biggest supporters of NeRPs, I saw what an abusive NeRPer can do first hand during the course of this past week. That user hit me with 2 Nerps, the first for his own stupidity, and the second out of spite and because he could. IMO, The temptation to NeRP is too much when the ability to NeRP is given to all based on the arbitrary standard of hitting 100 rep points.

Maybe, if NeRPs are to be maintained in any form, they can be given to specific users based on trust and a lack of abuse, with any such rights to be permanently removed for abuse?

As of right now, only moderators can give negitive rep points.

what comes first...the nerp or the warning?

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Maybe, if NeRPs are to be maintained in any form, they can be given to specific users based on trust and a lack of abuse, with any such rights to be permanently removed for abuse?
Already asked and answered in the lounge:
Couldnt there be a better way? I think that negative rep points can be helpful from time to time, if used responsibly...
I think the moderators should selectively decide when a certain person is reliable enough to be able to nerp, 100rep points doesnt really mean anything...I know alot of irresonsible people on this board with more than 100 rep points...If someone abuses the priveledge, remove them from the nerpers list...
The select few that we would pick would probably not use the neg. reps., and the ones who don't get picked would make a huge sceen because they were not picked.

In addition to kel_be's reasoning, wouldn't that be such a pain to go through the process of selecting someone, making sure they are not abusing it, et cetera?


Here's my 2 cents (probably worth nothing :lol:):
Two options-

1. Never ever have Nerps again.

2. Let a month go by or some other arbitrary interval of time and then reinstate the nerps to the people who have over 100 reps. That way people will know that immaturity and abuse of power will certainly remove the power forever. It's analogous to taking TV from a kid who fought with their sibling; next time they will think twice before doing it.


Of course I would be in favor of the latter situation but my opinion does not matter here.

If bold user's, and those who will become bold, want their nerping power, there is only one way to get it back-- protest! (j/k) :lol: Seriously, if you want the power back, then show to the mods that we, including myself, are responisble enough to have this ability.

My suggestions in accomplishing this:

1. Be extra nice to newcomers.
2. ModAlert a repost instead of posting "repost" in the thread and not even modalerting.
3. Be polite to others on this site.
4. Do not gang up on others, regardless of whether they deserve it or not
5. Don't threadcrap
6. PM an apology to the people you have nerped for no good reason
7. Be helpful for those who ask for it
8. Act mature and with self discipline when posting
9. Follow the Rules (http://forums.slickdeals.net/faq.php?faq=sd_faq_item#faq_rules_faq_item)
10. Other (whatever you think would help)

I think Lowpro's sig is most applicable here:
with great power comes great responsibility -- spiderman movie :grin:

Just a thought...

Edit We all should follow these suggestions anyway in order to enjoy the site even more

As of right now, only moderators can give negitive rep points.

...I...want...to..correct your spelling so...bad....:evil: lol.

I've used the Nerp power once. It was for a guy that had recently joined the forums, and the past 5 posts he made were pure thread crapping. :shrugs:


Just a longshot, but we could get rid of rep points entirely? This will cause people to actually post good deals (the intensity of good may vary), rather than half-butted ones just for rep points, IMO?

nevermind

nevermind

nevermind what, say it! lol.

nevermind what, say it! lol.

i asked what word she spelled wrong and then i saw it

...I...want...to..correct your spelling so...bad....:evil: lol.

I've used the Nerp power once. It was for a guy that had recently joined the forums, and the past 5 posts he made were pure thread crapping. :shrugs:


Just a longshot, but we could get rid of rep points entirely? This will cause people to actually post good deals (the intensity of good may vary), rather than half-butted ones just for rep points, IMO?

Rep points ARE the incentive to post GOOD deals. Without them, you will have people posting crap.

Good points, it works both ways? :confused:

As of right now, only moderators can give negitive rep points.
Why should mods be allowed to give negative rep points and not the bold (or bald) people? I know some people have been abusing the nerp system. Yet, doesn’t that seem somewhat unjust?
I just don’t think it’s right. If we shouldn’t have it, the mods shouldn’t have it. I try not to complain about how this site is run because I enjoy it so much but hearing that just gets my goat. :mad:

Why should mods be allowed to give negative rep points and not the bold (or bald) people? I know some people have been abusing the nerp system. Yet, doesn’t that seem somewhat unjust?
I just don’t think it’s right. If we shouldn’t have it, the mods shouldn’t have it. I try not to complain about how this site is run because I enjoy it so much but hearing that just gets my goat. :mad:Mods are held to higher standards than the membership in general. If they abuse their warning power, then they can have it stripped away by the site owner. Abuse of nerp power is impossible to administer.

Also, mods deserve extra consideration because they put in a lot of time and effort to maintain the integrity of the site.

I used nerps just 2 or 3 times and I don't think it had any real effect on the behavior of the posters who received then.

If nerps don't have positive benefit to the site, why have them?

I think if a poster violates the rules, then a mod should be notifitied so he or she can issue a warning.

Why should mods be allowed to give negative rep points and not the bold (or bald) people? I know some people have been abusing the nerp system. Yet, doesn’t that seem somewhat unjust?
I just don’t think it’s right. If we shouldn’t have it, the mods shouldn’t have it. I try not to complain about how this site is run because I enjoy it so much but hearing that just gets my goat. :mad:
Moderators have always had the power to negative rep.. Even before we had bold members. It's just that moderators normally give out warnings instead of negative reputation points.

I never Nerp'ed, although I sometimes saw an ocassion where it might have been warranted. But I never acted on it, for the fear that it would just lead to a "well, you nerped me, so have one back, nanny nanny boo boo pissing match"

...I think if a poster violates the rules, then a mod should be notifitied so he or she can issue a warning.

:iagree: From what I've read in these threads, nerps never seem to have the desired effect on the nerpee. I think warnings from the mods would be more effective.

I think if a poster violates the rules, then a mod should be notifitied so he or she can issue a warning.
Yes, only warnings. Not nerps. I think nerps should be eliminated for everyone.

Mods are held to higher standards than the membership in general. If they abuse their warning power, then they can have it stripped away by the site owner. Abuse of nerp power is impossible to administer.

Also, mods deserve extra consideration because they put in a lot of time and effort to maintain the integrity of the site.

I used nerps just 2 or 3 times and I don't think it had any real effect on the behavior of the posters who received then.

If nerps don't have positive benefit to the site, why have them?

I think if a poster violates the rules, then a mod should be notified so he or she can issue a warning.

I agree notifying a mod about rule violations is probably the best answer. Mods generally give warnings, but if, after a warning or two, a rule breaker continues to blatantly thread crap, post racist or offensive remarks, post remarks that constitute personal attacks, etc. -- then that person deserves nerps from a mod. Continued bad behavior after warnings and nerps would then justify a ban from a mod.

Mods are the 'neutral' party brought in to look things over with a cool head. Let them have the nerp power. That will stop the nerping for no reason, the revenge nerping, and the gang nerping.

Gang Nerping. That just sounds hilarious to me!!! :lmao: :lmao:
Gang Nerping Gang Nerping Gang Nerping :rofl2: :rofl2:

:iagree: From what I've read in these threads, nerps never seem to have the desired effect on the nerpee. I think warnings from the mods would be more effective.

Yup Yup Yup! And then the Nerpees who deserve it the most just go on a whining jag to their little gang pals or to whomever will listen. It's never the people who got nerped for a dumb reason who create trouble, they're mature enough to just take it.

So, If Nerps don't correct behavior and only embolden the asshats, why have them?

I've used them to try and discourage bad behavior and it flat out doesn't work. It only give the person acting badly a new mandate to act worse.

I supported Nerps when we didn't have them, then when we got them I didn;'t use them for a long time. Then, I used them and saw they are pointless.

If we do get them, back maybe it should only be for people with like 500 or 800 reps. (Note, I won't get there for quite some time. I get maybe 4 pr 5 reps a week).

Yes, only warnings. Not nerps. I think nerps should be eliminated for everyone.
so as rep points need to be eliminated,
in the days of the syndication, some people's rep power was taken out for a time, why can't that happen with reps, if someone goes ona nerping spree or nerps someone multiple times, then his nerp should be taken away. again, I used nerp only once, and after consulting with the lounge. I guess hell broke loose because of that, it looks like the lounge's actions sets new rules for the whole website.:)

i like reps and i like seeing people with reps. it signifies their significance as an SDer. it shows they've either been helpful to others or had good deals.

Reps = Positive Reinforcement: Most people like to be acknowleged or recognized.

Nerps = Punishment: No one likes to be punished.

Keep the reps and rid the nerps. Just use mod-alert button if you feel you want to nerp someone.

i like reps and i like seeing people with reps. it signifies their significance as an SDer. it shows they've either been helpful to others or had good deals.

Reps = Positive Reinforcement: Most people like to be acknowleged or recognized.

Nerps = Punishment: No one likes to be punished.

Keep the reps and rid the nerps. Just use mod-alert button if you feel you want to nerp someone.
:iagree:

:iagree:

me too

I am just using Yoink powers now!:eek:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Yoink

i never nerped but think i should be able to....along with all the other non-abusing bolds
US has freedom of speech...some people abuse it.....so they get in trouble....but the US doesnt take it away from everyone because of abusers

What is the percentage of SlickDeal members who are bold anyways?

they should have the neg reps moderated, if you give someone a nerp a mod has to aprove of it first

i never nerped but think i should be able to....along with all the other non-abusing bolds
US has freedom of speech...some people abuse it.....so they get in trouble....but the US doesnt take it away from everyone because of abusersYou still have freedom of speech - post all the responses you want, but the Constitution and Bill of Rights say NOTHING about "freedom to nerp!"they should have the neg reps moderated, if you give someone a nerp a mod has to aprove of it firstToo much additional work for the mods, and you're setting up a situation that leads to more conflict, because members would start battling with mods over whether the nerp they wanted to give someone else was justified or not. If there is a problem, mod alert it and let the mod deal with it.

freedom of speech is one thing but this is a public forum moderated by private people and created by a person who make the rules so we can all play nice.

Can't nerps be moderated... sorta like when a n00b begins posting and their posts are monitered?

Heck, what about even making a lower mod team with a group of people chosen by mods to nerp... that mods feel trustworthy?

Can't nerps be moderated... sorta like when a n00b begins posting and their posts are monitered?

Heck, what about even making a lower mod team with a group of people chosen by mods to nerp... that mods feel trustworthy?
The people we'd probably choose, would never used their nerp power anyways. And most of the deserved nerps should be mod alerted & given a warning.

No, nerps can't be moderated. Considering that Mr. SD is the only one who can view rep points, the rest of us wouldn't know if that rep point is in retaliation or not. And we'd probably see that a member would again, deserve a warning instead of a nerp.

Considering that Mr. SD is the only one who can view rep points,


ahhh, that explains how it was determined who was part of the syndicate.

So have they been removed? Can only mod's nerp now?

So have they been removed? Can only mod's nerp now?
Yes, they've been removed. IIRC, no mod has given a neg rep.

Can't nerps be moderated... sorta like when a n00b begins posting and their posts are monitered?

Heck, what about even making a lower mod team with a group of people chosen by mods to nerp... that mods feel trustworthy?...and a third level of assistant mods whose job it is to monitor the associate mods whose job it is to monitor nerps? ;)

Simple solution: Posters mod alert posts that violate the rules. Mods handle it.

IMHO, nerps did influence the behavior of members in any positive way and their net effect did not add to the quality of the forum.

...and a third level of assistant mods whose job it is to monitor the associate mods whose job it is to monitor nerps? ;)

Simple solution: Posters mod alert posts that violate the rules. Mods handle it.

IMHO, nerps did influence the behavior of members in any positive way and their net effect did not add to the quality of the forum.

:iagree: e-penises got hard pretty quick.

If it isn't obvious, we made the decision to remove nerps. The main reason is that it creates animosity amongst users and adds negativity to the forum. Both add no value to the forum.

Yeah, but what about "abusement" of the English language?

(The is no such word as "abusement". The word is "abuse", you dimwits!)

Xnarg and Ricky....if u actually took the time to read my post....and not just 3 words....

us see im not complaining about no freedom of speech....

im making an analogy....go back and read my post....Read the post....not just 3 words

Xnarg and Ricky....if u actually took the time to read my post....and not just 3 words....

us see im not complaining about no freedom of speech....

im making an analogy....go back and read my post....Read the post....not just 3 words
In using your analogy, in times of war free speech is quite limited to all Americans, whether they abused it the past before or not. Also, there are instances where a few spoiled apples ruin the bunch. For example, because of a few terrorists, there are certain words everyone cannot say at the airport.

This is not the case here, however. IMHO your analogy is flawed in the sense that it does not compare like entities. The US constitution and the liberities found within it are just not the same as a privately own website and it's rules. Mr. SD can make, change, and even break whatever rules he made at anytime he choses. The Government has no such ability. Mr. SD felt the Nerps were just bad for his website, so he chose to remove them.

I empathize with your frustration and went through the same feelings. What changed my mind is Xnarg's comment about how Nerps really didn't help the situation. It's true-- a ModAlert works just as well, if not better, than a nerp. A warning from a Mod is not only taken more seriously by the alleged offender, but now the situation is brought to the attention of the people who run this site.

I know exactly how you feel about being stripped of your privilege because of what other people did, but in the end, is it really a big deal? Is not being able to nerp going to stop you from posting great deals similar to the ones you had shared in the past? Is it going to take away from the reputation that you have built?

Xnarg and Ricky....if u actually took the time to read my post....and not just 3 words....

us see im not complaining about no freedom of speech....

im making an analogy....go back and read my post....Read the post....not just 3 wordsI read your posts before replying:i never nerped but think i should be able to....along with all the other non-abusing bolds
US has freedom of speech...some people abuse it.....so they get in trouble....but the US doesnt take it away from everyone because of abusersAssume that I'm dense, please spell out your analogy for me, because apparently I don't get it.

This is not free speech that is being taken away because of abusers. Nerping was a non-productive feature. It was great that SD tried it and it was also great that the feature was disabled when it became obvious that it added nothing nil zip zero nada to the forum.

I read your posts before replying:Assume that I'm dense, please spell out your analogy for me, because apparently I don't get it.

This is not free speech that is being taken away because of abusers. Nerping was a non-productive feature. It was great that SD tried it and it was also great that the feature was disabled when it became obvious that it added nothing nil zip zero nada to the forum.
you wrote:
You still have freedom of speech - post all the responses you want, but the Constitution and Bill of Rights say NOTHING about "freedom to nerp!"
i never said we should be able to nerp because this is a US law.....
It's a private site...so it's the owner's rules .... I know.....


What I am saying.....

when some people abuse freedom of speech....its not taken away from everyone......

such as when some people hack computers...they dont end the internet for the whole world......

they put regulations.....such as loss of computer rights for a certain amount upto jail time depending on severity to the abusers..........



IMO, same thing should happen with NeRP's if people abuse...they lose it not everyone....

maybe it should be a combo of join date and rep count....

although NeRP's arent that big of a diff....they allow us non-mods that still want to have some sort of connection or pride...being part of some sort of SD "team" in recognition for being veteran members....

another anology, Banks, let's say ur a member since 1992 and frequently use the bank for your transactions.....you are prolly elligable for special features/advantages....

Yup Yup Yup! And then the Nerpees who deserve it the most just go on a whining jag to their little gang pals or to whomever will listen.


Exactly.

thus, the creation of this thread

I'd like to throw a couple of cents in...
Modalerting and deleting some posts may work for threadcrappers most of the time, however other times Nerp'ing seems like the answer. At least with nerp'ing you can comment on a negative, deragatory post without the necessity of a modalert, which usually ends in deleted or edited posts, thus leaving nothing for other users to see and judge for themselves. Such an exchange happened quite recently and the thread was deleted which left only a few such privileged users to witness the exchange and see the actual user's posts.