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We moved into our new home few months ago.. and now are thinking about getting dish network satellite service.. presently, we have 4 TVs that are mounted on walls and and one TV which is on a stand which can support the satellite receiver. All TVs are connected with the internal coax wiring and there are also ethernet ports by them. My issue is how to connect all of these with one satellite receiver.. we are only two people in the house.. so, we will not be watching more than two channels at one time..
btw, all our TVs are HDs..
has anyone had a similar issue.. help, please!
Marcina
06-24-2011, 04:23 PM
Funny, I was looking at my DirecTV account immediately prior to coming to SD, and I had noticed this add on the DirecTV page:
"""DIRECTV® Whole-Home DVR service
Record and watch your favorite shows from any room - with a single HD DVR
You've always wanted your DVR to work like this and now it does. With DIRECTV's Whole-Home DVR service, a single HD DVR lets you:
* Watch your recorded shows in HD in any room
* Schedule or delete a recording from any room
* Start watching a recording in one room and finish where you left off in another
All you need is one HD DVR for one of your TVs and HD receivers for your other connected TVs.
Costs may vary according to your existing set up. """"""""""""
That looks like what you're asking for - I imagine you could just ask Dish if they have the equivalent to DirecTV's whole home service - then work one against the other to get a price break!
here's the problem -- I cannot have more than one HD receiver.. (nor do I want to pay for it!)
MikeBear
06-24-2011, 07:33 PM
here's the problem -- I cannot have more than one HD receiver.. (nor do I want to pay for it!)
If it's possible to do it, these guys will know. Register and post this same question there. There are also Dish CSR's that post and help end-users fix issues on that site, under Dish's new DIRT program. (no joke: Dish Internet Response Team)
http://www.satelliteguys.us/dish-network-forum/
I have an older VIP622 Dish DVR. It can only run 2 tv's at the same time, showing different channels. ONE of those tv's can only be SD also. Now, it's possible to hook up to more tv's, but they'd have to have the same channels on that either of the first 2 sets do. In other words, you couldn't watch 4 different channels at the same time.
They have some newer dvr's coming down the pike very shortly, and perhaps they can do 4 HD tv's at once.
Here's the thread for the newest coming receivers: http://www.satelliteguys.us/dish-network-forum/254573-questions-about-new-xip-receivers.html
If it's possible to do it, these guys will know. Register and post this same question there. There are also Dish CSR's that post and help end-users fix issues on that site, under Dish's new DIRT program. (no joke: Dish Internet Response Team)
http://www.satelliteguys.us/dish-network-forum/
I have an older VIP622 Dish DVR. It can only run 2 tv's at the same time, showing different channels. ONE of those tv's can only be SD also. Now, it's possible to hook up to more tv's, but they'd have to have the same channels on that either of the first 2 sets do. In other words, you couldn't watch 4 different channels at the same time.
They have some newer dvr's coming down the pike very shortly, and perhaps they can do 4 HD tv's at once.
Here's the thread for the newest coming receivers: http://www.satelliteguys.us/dish-network-forum/254573-questions-about-new-xip-receivers.html
Thanks.. I just did that!
greenmeansgoooo
06-24-2011, 09:15 PM
just run the sat. on the roof to the tv w/ stand for the receiver. then backfeed the 'tv out' into the existing coaxial line so that the 3 other tv's get a signal from the receiver box.
then at each tv you can use a wireless IR/RF extender to relay the remote control commands back to the receiver box to change channels.
Remote Control Range Extender (http://www.smarthome.com/8045I/IR-to-RF-to-IR-Remote-Control-Range-Extender-Kit-433-MHz/p.aspx)
The VIP 922 or 722/722k DVR with a Sling Adapter to stream Dish Online and 3-4 tuners will do what you want. You need a fast, uncapped internet connection for the 'HD' stream(s) as each tuner needs to stream to Dish HQ and then back to your device.
Dish is running a promo now for the Sling. $99 upfront and get $99 back in a plastic card.
I too am looking into Dish for (4) TV's and yesterday priced out:
Top 250 HD
Multi-Sports pack
Sling enabled
$80/month, $198 down get $99 back
(2) HD DVR
(2) HD Receivers
$77/month, $99 down get $99 back
(1) HD DVR
(3) HD receivers
$70/month, $99 down get $99 back
(1) HD DVR
(1) HD receiver
$63/month, $99 down get $99 back
(1) HD DVR
Minus - $7/month for Sling and another $7/month for the 4th HD receiver.
Compare (4) TV HD with Dish Top 250 and Sports pack to similar packages:
$200/month Cox HD Cable with 15/2 internet **
$125/month Verizon FIOS with 35/35 internet **
$80/month Dish and $45 Cox 15/2 or $65 FIOS 25/25
** No upfront money
Cable is out.
FIOS has nice internet speed but crappy low capacity DVR but it's whole-home.
Dish has Sling, (2) TV's per DVR and bring your own internet.
If you go with (1) DVR with or without Sling, you will still need a Media Player at the TV, unless the TV has internet.
zzzzzzz1
06-25-2011, 07:28 AM
I know you don't want two receivers, but I will post something to think about when figuring in the cost to do what you're trying to do.
Dish Network's second dual tuner single tv HD receiver is $10 per month (last I checked). You can't share recorded content between two receivers.
Directv's second receiver is $6 per month. You can share recorded content. Startup costs, if receiver 2 is NOT a DVR, it's free, if it is a DVR, it's $100 additional if you have whole home DVR activated. If receiver 2 is not a DVR, it can record through receiver one, but some DVR options are limited.
With Dish, on a single receiver, output two is always SD, unless you go with sling adapters. Directv boxes only work on one tv (one tuner out).
The way I would do it myself, Dish or Direct, would require 2 boxes. It's required to get two separate HD channels viewed anyway (without Sling). You could split the HDMI outputs, or use one HDMI out, and one component out (which would not require a splitter), and run cables to all the tvs, the receivers would not have to be by the tvs at all. Directv's remotes are capable of RF for example, so you wouldn't need to worry about IR extenders, etc. The receivers could be behind walls and the remotes work.
Basically, whatever you'd think, but that would get you two separate HD viewable stations at the same time. With Dish you wouldn't have access to recordings on each DVR, with Direct you would. And with Directv's receiver, that sharing is in house, no internet involved for the video, and it works well (yes I have it). So the cost of the second receiver, a few cables, vs. the cost of Sling adapters or whatever devices to share the video signal, for one HD tuner. Up to you.
Dr. J
06-25-2011, 07:37 AM
Impossible. If you want to watch independent "live" programming on each TV, you will need as many tuners as TV's, with Dish or DTV or anyone.
Dish sells 2 tuner models, which only have 1 HD out (second HD out is component....). Further, DTV does have whole-home DVR which only serves to give all receivers access to a single DVR, but each TV still needs a receiver.
So basically you are stuck.
In my house, we've had a Dish 722 for years - parked by our main TV which receives HD via HDMI. I have the RF modulator setup to distribute to our home video "network" (coax) on a specific channel - you can tune to that channel (or even the first tuner's feed) anywhere in the house. To CONTROL that second feed you need to have a UHF remote, which you can get as many as you want with the 722 (one for each room). I used to have a separate slingbox hooked to the system (before Dish bought sling and integrated it) but all that lets you do is watch one of the video feeds. It doesn't ADD a tuner to the system.
Dr. J
06-25-2011, 07:39 AM
just run the sat. on the roof to the tv w/ stand for the receiver. then backfeed the 'tv out' into the existing coaxial line so that the 3 other tv's get a signal from the receiver box.
then at each tv you can use a wireless IR/RF extender to relay the remote control commands back to the receiver box to change channels.
Remote Control Range Extender (http://www.smarthome.com/8045I/IR-to-RF-to-IR-Remote-Control-Range-Extender-Kit-433-MHz/p.aspx)
unnecessary - the dish 722 has a UHF receiver built in for "TV2" viewing and works "through walls". Controlling "TV1" still needs to be done in the same room, and you COULD use a range extender like you suggested, however feeding HD through your house is more complicated than a few wires, so HD will be limited to the TV nearest to the receiver. Basically, I am saying there's no reason why you would want to alter "TV1" programming from anywhere else in the house but TV1.
Dr. J
06-25-2011, 07:43 AM
If it's possible to do it, these guys will know. Register and post this same question there. There are also Dish CSR's that post and help end-users fix issues on that site, under Dish's new DIRT program. (no joke: Dish Internet Response Team)
http://www.satelliteguys.us/dish-network-forum/
I have an older VIP622 Dish DVR. It can only run 2 tv's at the same time, showing different channels. ONE of those tv's can only be SD also. Now, it's possible to hook up to more tv's, but they'd have to have the same channels on that either of the first 2 sets do. In other words, you couldn't watch 4 different channels at the same time.
They have some newer dvr's coming down the pike very shortly, and perhaps they can do 4 HD tv's at once.
Here's the thread for the newest coming receivers: http://www.satelliteguys.us/dish-network-forum/254573-questions-about-new-xip-receivers.html
Reading that it appears the XiP is Dish's answer to DTV's whole home DVR - you will still need receivers for every "TV" : "Instead you will be able to add OTA by inserting a USB OTA Tuner in any of the XiP receivers on your networks." <== That implies that there will be more than 1 XiP in any given video network (home). Also it should be apparent that one tuner will feed 1 live channel, so a single "box" would need 4 tuners and paired modulators to feed HD through your video "network" so that you could just plug RG6 into the wall. That's probably cost-prohibitive.