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Genius4sho
09-17-2011, 09:27 PM
That has to be the most controversial ending to a boxing match I've ever seen. WOW. WOW! :eek:

wiles
09-17-2011, 09:30 PM
fark what happened??? I was watching football?

NCSU2008
09-17-2011, 09:33 PM
mayweather needs to stop being a bitch and fight pacquiao

Genius4sho
09-17-2011, 09:35 PM
fark what happened??? I was watching football?Duuuude, I still can't believe what happened. I'll say what happened below in a spoiler box, because I'm not sure if people want this spoiled....


Highlight this ----> Ortiz headbutted Mayweather in the face and the ref separated both boxers, took a point away from Ortiz's score. Both fighters are then told to go to the middle of the ring, Ortiz goes up to Mayweather and tells him he's sorry. He hugs Mayweather. As soon as he let go of his apology hug, Mayweather ROCKS him in the face twice.... as hard as he could and knocked him out. The ref wasn't even watching! But it ended the fight! Mayweather won! <----- Highlight that

:eek:

NCSU2008
09-17-2011, 09:37 PM
so basically ortiz was apologizing for a very obvious headbutt, one that may get him suspended apparently according to espn. in the middle of apologizing, mayweather knocked him out

espn.com

wiles
09-17-2011, 09:43 PM
Whoa!

Iaaaiws
09-17-2011, 09:44 PM
If the dumbass left himself open he deserves to lose :lol:

I gotta see a replay of that-it sounds like an awesome ending.

damsel.
09-17-2011, 09:44 PM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6VmYVI7liwE/TnVxd6msalI/AAAAAAAAE74/SZT6xCZPZeI/s1600/8.gif


Also, NSFW: Mayweather post-interview. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gHzAFLQOHY&feature=player_embedded)

NCSU2008
09-17-2011, 09:47 PM
ahahaha. "i wish i was 50 years younger, i'd kick your ass"

Genius4sho
09-17-2011, 10:20 PM
I wanted Mayweather to win, but that was really classless what he did. Some people may argue that it was legal, but it sure isn't right. I know he's fighting someone. but there is no "sportsmanship" in that.

But at the same time that ref has to be the worst I've ever seen. What the hell is he doing? He resumed the fight and he isn't watching it? Talk about being unprofessional. I wouldn't be surprised if he gets fired. He should have separated them before resuming. What a dummy.

MCeatalot
09-17-2011, 10:25 PM
Saw that. While it was legal, it sure as hell was no sportsman of Mayweather. Totally unreal. If anyone needs to be fired, it should be the ref.

Iaaaiws
09-17-2011, 10:35 PM
I guess I would have to see the headbutt to see if it was obviously intentional or not before I would start knocking Mayweather's sportsmanship or class. If he just took an obviously intentional headbutt in a fight he was clearly winning I can't fault him for wanting to get back to the fight and putting that loser down.

And wtf was Ortiz thinking? :facepalm2: I can see where he could have been caught off guard by that first shot but when someone lands a blow to your face you don't look to the ref to see if he saw it--you defend yourself. How could he not be expecting that right to follow the left?

Genius4sho
09-17-2011, 10:49 PM
I guess I would have to see the headbutt to see if it was obviously intentional or not before I would start knocking Mayweather's sportsmanship or class. If he just took an obviously intentional headbutt in a fight he was clearly winning I can't fault him for wanting to get back to the fight and putting that loser down.

And wtf was Ortiz thinking? :facepalm2: I can see where he could have been caught off guard by that first shot but when someone lands a blow to your face you don't look to the ref to see if he saw it--you defend yourself. How could he not be expecting that right to follow the left?When you see the headbutt it looks absolutely intentional. But have you ever done something really dumb then asked yourself why the hell you did that? I think that's exactly what happened to Ortiz and I truly believe he felt very sorry for letting that happen. Heck, if you watched all the pre-interviews to the fight, the only thing that Ortiz's camp would talk about is how dirty of a fighter Mayweather was. EVERY interview they would harp on it (I'm sure he doesn't want to be considered a hypocrite). You could tell that he felt bad about the headbutt. Also, I don't think he even knew that the Ref had resumed the fight. Actually, I can guarantee you that's what happened. That's why he looked at the ref after the first punch. Almost like: "Why the hell is he punching me right now??". I'm sure they could both see out of the corner of their eye that the ref wasn't watching the fight.

thechan
09-17-2011, 11:43 PM
The fight was rigged from the begginning! The Referee was told to do whatever it takes to let Mayweather win. That is why the referee joe Cortez was not saying anything about Floyd's elbowing. Their is no way that was legal the referee called timeout and was looking the other way when Mayweather knocked Ortiz out how could the referee count out Ortiz what if Mayweather hit Ortiz in the groin or bite him how was the referee to know? And what about the fast counting from the referee really strange? I guarantee if Ortiz was in Mayweathers position he would be disqualified and possibly banned from boxing for a while. Mayweather makes boxing a lot of money and so they purposely let him win!

And I would not be surprised if Cortiz was in on it since this is the most money he ever made and since he was acting so calmly after losing his belt so quickly and cheaply? and I more importantly would not be surprised if the whole thing was settup to make mayweather even more hated so people will more likely pay to see him fight!

Browlio
09-17-2011, 11:58 PM
I'm just pissed both of them ruined what looked like a good fight if Ortiz didn't headbutt and Mayweather didn't cheap shot to end it. I expected Mayweather to win but with some nice brawls by Ortiz and Mayweather ultimately chopping down Ortiz slowly but surely.

thechan
09-18-2011, 12:07 AM
I'm just pissed both of them ruined what looked like a good fight if Ortiz didn't headbutt and Mayweather didn't cheap shot to end it. I expected Mayweather to win but with some nice brawls by Ortiz and Mayweather ultimately chopping down Ortiz slowly but surely.

Ortiz was taking over the fight he basically won 2 of the fights but yeah we wanted a good fight not a 4 round joke! everyone should have their money refunded! I think this will turn off many people from boxing or atleast will make think about how fights can be rigged.

aktham
09-18-2011, 12:12 AM
On a lighter note

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6177/6157964388_d5b611f537.jpg

Browlio
09-18-2011, 12:15 AM
On a lighter note

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6177/6157964388_d5b611f537.jpg

:lmao:

NCSU2008
09-18-2011, 12:16 AM
I think this will turn off many people from boxing


aha...as if that hasn't already happened

25 years ago

thechan
09-18-2011, 12:24 AM
aha...as if that hasn't already happened

25 years ago

yes thats true their has been lots of fights that were shady and clearly rigged before the ortiz vs mayweather fight but this has to possibly be the worst

ikonoklast
09-18-2011, 04:24 AM
Didn't see the fight but from the pic posted, it looked like a sucker punch.

thearteest
09-18-2011, 04:41 AM
This is on YouTube now

"Larry Merchant shits on..."
This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by HOME BOX OFFICE, INC..
Sorry about that.

:lol:

Iaaaiws
09-18-2011, 08:14 AM
ahahaha. "i wish i was 50 years younger, i'd kick your ass"
After that Mayweather should have headbutted him and then as Merchant lay bleeding and dazed on the mat said "It'll probably take you another 50 years to get smart enough to know when to keep your mouth shut".

Genius4sho
09-18-2011, 12:04 PM
After that Mayweather should have headbutted him and then as Merchant lay bleeding and dazed on the mat said "It'll probably take you another 50 years to get smart enough to know when to keep your mouth shut".Merchant had every right to ask him the questions that he did (that's his job). They were questions that everyone had at the end of the match. I think Mayweather had a "white man trying to bring the man down" moment. Then he showed his true colors (pun not intended) by acting the way that he did to Larry. Do you see other greats from other professions acting the way that Mayweather did after a win? Would Peyton Manning do this? What about Derek Jeter? Jason Kidd? Just a few veterans who have class.

Iaaaiws
09-18-2011, 12:41 PM
Merchant had every right to ask him the questions that he did (that's his job). They were questions that everyone had at the end of the match. I think Mayweather had a "white man trying to bring the man down" moment. Then he showed his true colors (pun not intended) by acting the way that he did to Larry. Do you see other greats from other professions acting the way that Mayweather did after a win? Would Peyton Manning do this? What about Derek Jeter? Jason Kidd? Just a few veterans who have class.
I have no interest in what Mayweather said, I'm just thinking of a scenario that would have made the moment even better. Merchant responding with his grade-school mentality comment "If I was 50 years younger..blah blah blah" just sank him to the same level and made him look like an idiot. Mayweather busting his face open would have been classic. :lol:

Genius4sho
09-18-2011, 12:52 PM
I have no interest in what Mayweather said, I'm just thinking of a scenario that would have made the moment even better. Merchant responding with his grade-school mentality comment "If I was 50 years younger..blah blah blah" just sank him to the same level and made him look like an idiot. Mayweather busting his face open would have been classic. :lol:lol, I don't know about being "classic", I think he would be public enemy number one for something like that. Beating up a 80 year old? I think in Philadelphia that would be like a 20 year in jail sentence... in Las Vegas it's just a misdemeanor. :P

Larry had to say SOMETHING after that verbal abuse, and that line was just hilarious. I want to see a cyborg Larry Merchant vs Mayweather fight. :laugh:

I think a better thing that could have happened last night is if when the Ref wasn't looking, they pulled a WWF (or WWE, whatever they call it) move.... someone comes and distracts the Ref even further, then Mike Tyson comes in the ring (he was in the crowd) with a metal chair, hits Ortiz in the face with it, leaves the ring, and Mayweather pins him for a count of three! :woot2: DING DING DING! :)

Iaaaiws
09-18-2011, 01:30 PM
I think a better thing that could have happened last night is if when the Ref wasn't looking, they pulled a WWF (or WWE, whatever they call it) move.... someone comes and distracts the Ref even further, then Mike Tyson comes in the ring (he was in the crowd) with a metal chair, hits Ortiz in the face with it, leaves the ring, and Mayweather pins him for a count of three! :woot2: DING DING DING! :)
:lol:

The whole thing does have WWF written all over it. Watching the .gif from earlier in the thread makes it look like double-cross setup. The ref makes an exaggerated show of being distracted from what the fighters are doing. Ortiz is expecting to get tagged once by Mayweather from the left and then the ref steps in to stop the encounter and Mayweather gets disqualified and Ortiz keeps the belt even though Mayweather was kicking his ass.

Instead, the producers decide that they can generate even more revenue with a little more controversy so they tell Mayweather to play along like the original setup is still in place, but then after he gives Ortiz that first little shot to go ahead and ring his bell with a right because they know Ortiz won't be expecting it. Now they have created enough drama to guarantee a huge payoff for a future fight. Brilliant!

thechan
09-18-2011, 03:21 PM
Mayweather is a chicken if he is good then he would not need to cheat against a boxer who he claimed was nothing. But the reason he cheated is because he was feeling the power of Ortiz and was scared of losing. And you can easily tell that the referee was told from the start to allow Mayweather to win. It was exactly like WWE and that is why so many people are turning away from boxing. Larry Merchant is the man for what he said and he had every right to say it because Mayweather has cheated in a lot of fights through the refs,judges and his elbows.

Also I still cant believe so many people are supporting Mayweather are people truly that stupid and blind? lol and I guess after this fight people will pay a lot of money for gayweathers next fight so if it was all pre-planned it worked.

Iaaaiws
09-18-2011, 03:50 PM
Mayweather is a chicken if he is good then he would not need to cheat against a boxer who he claimed was nothing. But the reason he cheated is because he was feeling the power of Ortiz and was scared of losing. And you can easily tell that the referee was told from the start to allow Mayweather to win. It was exactly like WWE and that is why so many people are turning away from boxing. Larry Merchant is the man for what he said and he had every right to say it because Mayweather has cheated in a lot of fights through the refs,judges and his elbows.

Also I still cant believe so many people are supporting Mayweather are people truly that stupid and blind? lol and I guess after this fight people will pay a lot of money for gayweathers next fight so if it was all pre-planned it worked.
Speaking of stupid and blind I find it hilarious that people who are bringing up Mayweather's sportsmanship and saying he cheated seem to overlook the intentional headbutt by Ortiz. Seems like a pretty fair fight when both seem to be lacking in sportsmanship.

Mayweather was clearly coming out to touch gloves and start to fight. Ortiz came out looking for a hug. He deserved to get clocked for being so stupid.

thechan
09-18-2011, 08:25 PM
Speaking of stupid and blind I find it hilarious that people who are bringing up Mayweather's sportsmanship and saying he cheated seem to overlook the intentional headbutt by Ortiz. Seems like a pretty fair fight when both seem to be lacking in sportsmanship.

Mayweather was clearly coming out to touch gloves and start to fight. Ortiz came out looking for a hug. He deserved to get clocked for being so stupid.

hahaha yeah right! every stupid gayweather supporter uses that dumb argument

But how was it fair when Mayweather had 2 cheap punches which were taken when Ortiz was not ready and not paying attention and when the referee did not say box or even look at the fighters. And also how is it fair when those cheap punches gave Mayweather the win by a horrible call by the bias referee! Ortiz made a mistake and was sorry for it and was penalized and he was not the first boxer to headbutt someone. But mayweather made a even worse mistake and was awarded for it and never apologized.


What Gayweather did was a million times worse then what Ortiz did and what the referee did was also much more worse then what Ortiz did! but atleast Ortiz was a man and said he was wrong unlike the other two!


but let me get this straight every time a fighter head-butts and then tries to apologize that means the opponent gets to punch him twice when he is not ready and when he and the referee are not looking and when the ref did not tell them to box? you are the blind one!

Iaaaiws
09-18-2011, 10:15 PM
hahaha yeah right! every stupid gayweather supporter uses that dumb argument

But how was it fair when Mayweather had 2 cheap punches which were taken when Ortiz was not ready and not paying attention and when the referee did not say box or even look at the fighters. And also how is it fair when those cheap punches gave Mayweather the win by a horrible call by the bias referee! Ortiz made a mistake and was sorry for it and was penalized and he was not the first boxer to headbutt someone. But mayweather made a even worse mistake and was awarded for it and never apologized.


What Gayweather did was a million times worse then what Ortiz did and what the referee did was also much more worse then what Ortiz did! but atleast Ortiz was a man and said he was wrong unlike the other two!


but let me get this straight every time a fighter head-butts and then tries to apologize that means the opponent gets to punch him twice when he is not ready and when he and the referee are not looking and when the ref did not tell them to box? you are the blind one!
fan boys are so cute when their idol gets pwned. :rofl2:

thechan
09-19-2011, 12:12 AM
fan boys are so cute when their idol gets pwned. :rofl2:

fan boys? I think you got it mixed up you are the fan boy who is in denial. I never even knew who ortiz was before this fight I just did not support Mayweather because I knew he is not a great boxer like he claims and he proved it in his last fight.

Iaaaiws
09-19-2011, 07:09 AM
fan boys? I think you got it mixed up you are the fan boy who is in denial. I never even knew who ortiz was before this fight I just did not support Mayweather because I knew he is not a great boxer like he claims and he proved it in his last fight.
I still don't know who either one of them is. But thanks for playing fan boy. :comfort:

Jeepchic55
09-19-2011, 10:40 AM
Here is a link to the transcript of the Larry Merchant interview since the video link is broken.

http://www.mannypaquiaovs.com/floyd-mayweather-larry-merchant-post-fight-ring-interview-transcript/

Odds
09-19-2011, 11:10 AM
I was at the fight, felt totally ripped off. At least the undercard Morales fight was good.

vec
09-19-2011, 11:41 AM
If the dumbass left himself open he deserves to lose :lol:

I gotta see a replay of that-it sounds like an awesome ending.
:iagree:

What kind of moron goes up to his opponent to hug him during the round?

"Time Out! I need to give you some loving!" WTF?!?! :lol:

Scoundrel
09-19-2011, 11:52 AM
Why are we talking about boxing, it's no longer relevant. It's a joke.

:scratch: Speaking of which... :lol:

http://www.demotivationalposters.org/image/demotivational-poster/1010/boxing-funny-demotivational-poster-1287807314.jpg

Genius4sho
09-19-2011, 12:05 PM
I was at the fight, felt totally ripped off. At least the undercard Morales fight was good.If the PPV was about $60, I don't want to know how much you spent to be there! :eek:

I would be angry too, that's not how you want to see a boxing match end.

vec
09-19-2011, 12:08 PM
http://www.demotivationalposters.org/image/demotivational-poster/1010/boxing-funny-demotivational-poster-1287807314.jpg
:crylol:

thechan
09-19-2011, 11:52 PM
I still don't know who either one of them is. But thanks for playing fan boy. :comfort:

lol If you dont know who any of them are why do you argue and fight over people you have never heard off? and why do you waste all your time on them? atleast I know who mayweather is and know about boxing. :lol::lol::lol:

shhaggy
09-20-2011, 11:01 AM
I guess I would have to see the headbutt to see if it was obviously intentional or not before I would start knocking Mayweather's sportsmanship or class. If he just took an obviously intentional headbutt in a fight he was clearly winning I can't fault him for wanting to get back to the fight and putting that loser down.

And wtf was Ortiz thinking? :facepalm2: I can see where he could have been caught off guard by that first shot but when someone lands a blow to your face you don't look to the ref to see if he saw it--you defend yourself. How could he not be expecting that right to follow the left?

The headbutt was BAD, there's no excusing it. But two wrongs don't make a right, and Mayweather is fighting both his opponent and his legacy with regard to how he handles himself in the ring. He's never been a class act, and this fight was no different.

emelvee
09-20-2011, 11:11 AM
Big Papi is a boxer now?

Iaaaiws
09-20-2011, 09:31 PM
The headbutt was BAD, there's no excusing it. But two wrongs don't make a right, and Mayweather is fighting both his opponent and his legacy with regard to how he handles himself in the ring. He's never been a class act, and this fight was no different.
Thanks for repeating my point. Bringing up Mayweather's sportsmanship is moronic if you don't acknowledge that Ortiz is just as bad. In fact Ortiz is the only one that seems to have broken any rules along with showing poor sportsmanship.

Iaaaiws
09-20-2011, 09:35 PM
lol If you dont know who any of them are why do you argue and fight over people you have never heard off? and why do you waste all your time on them? atleast I know who mayweather is and know about boxing. :lol::lol::lol:
I haven't watched much boxing in the last ten years since it has pretty much turned into a joke. Since you seem to be the expert on current boxing rules maybe you can tell us when giving a hug and a smooch became part of the fight. Was it around the same year they stopped keeping score in kids' sports games so everyone can feel like a winner?

thechan
09-22-2011, 01:25 PM
I haven't watched much boxing in the last ten years since it has pretty much turned into a joke. Since you seem to be the expert on current boxing rules maybe you can tell us when giving a hug and a smooch became part of the fight. Was it around the same year they stopped keeping score in kids' sports games so everyone can feel like a winner?

First let me respond to your second to last post. Ortiz may of cheated but was penalized for it and even apologized and what Ortiz did was a headbutt which has been done numerous times in boxing but Mayweather cheated in a worse way and did actually show poor sportsmanship and was awarded for it. And hitting a guy with 2 cheap shots one of them being a power punch which knocks the other person out is much worse than one head-butt which barely hurt. The ref also was paid off to help Mayweather win and any normal person can see this and if you go on youtube and lookup the Hatton fight with Mayweather you will see the same referee helping mayweather win the fight. Also just like Ortiz headbutt I didn't see anyone complaining about the elbows mayweather was using against Ortiz and the ref also helped mayweather by letting him get away with the elbows like in his earlier fights. Once again the reason people are not bringing up Ortiz headbutt is because its not that big of deal compared to what Mayweather and the referee did and because it has happened numerous times before!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWNC7IJ-tL8 proof that mayweather is a cheater and has worked with the ref before!

To your last post I never said I was an expert I just watch boxing if its a big fight. And you do know that Mayweather gave a Ortiz a kiss during the weight in so I think they are both strange and gay for kissing each other. But I think both of them kissed each-other to get into each others heads. But even with Ortiz giving him a quick kiss that still doesn't justify Mayweather cheating with 2 big cheap-shots and it still doesn't change the fact that the ref cheated giving Mayweather a fake win. Anyways the fight was horrible and I will agree with you that boxing has been a joke for a very long time and will probably always be that way. anyways Its been fun but I am done with this thread since we are starting to argue about stupid things and getting no where bye!

damsel.
09-24-2011, 10:00 AM
Ortiz may of cheated...


Have, have, have, may HAVE cheated.

Sorry, that one drives me crazy. :lol:

shhaggy
09-26-2011, 11:53 AM
The problem with this argument is that by criticizing Mayweather, it gives the impression that you think Ortiz was "wronged". Ortiz wasn't wronged, he farking got what he deserved! I don't feel bad for Ortiz. but at the same time, Mayweather isn't just fighting Ortiz, he has his own legacy to uphold. And right now his legacy is that of a big mouth, classless, Pacquiao-dodging little bitch. What he did that night did nothing to correct this image.

Iaaaiws
09-26-2011, 09:41 PM
The problem with this argument is that by criticizing Mayweather, it gives the impression that you think Ortiz was "wronged". Ortiz wasn't wronged, he farking got what he deserved! I don't feel bad for Ortiz. but at the same time, Mayweather isn't just fighting Ortiz, he has his own legacy to uphold. And right now his legacy is that of a big mouth, classless, Pacquiao-dodging little bitch. What he did that night did nothing to correct this image.
I haven't seen any indication that Mayweather has any desire to "correct" his image. Maybe he doesn't have a problem with it so he isn't fighting it at all. The latest controversy most likely will end up putting more dollars in his pocket, which at this point in his career may be a little higher on the priority list than his legacy.