someone i know, a nails technichian, got accused of sexual harrassment by a customer he did nails for yesterday. The woman came back to the store with a couple guys to accuse him. He just called the cops. What should he do or not do?

More info: he was working on fingernails. The accuser has been coming to the shop for 6+ months.

someone i know, a nails technichian, got accuse of sexual harrassment by a customer he did nails for yesterday. The woman came back to the store with a couple guys to accuse him. He just called the cops. What should he do or not do?


I need more details. What color were the accuser's nipples? :dontknow:

Tell them he is gay.

/end thread

Contact a lawyer if he's sued. :dontknow:

I need more details. What color were the accuser's nipples? :dontknow:
Before or after he tweaked them?

Tell them he is gay.

/end thread


You do nails?

Contact a lawyer if he's sued. :dontknow:


Before or after he tweaked them?


Good question. I'll need photo evidence.

You do nails?


Is he hot?

You nail dudes?fixed, and I thought it was common knowledge.

Is he hot?


very :whee:

Is he hot?I already know he's Asian.

I already know he's Asian.
Sorry. I stopped playing with micro-machines when I was a kid.

I already know he's Asian.


Just cause he likes noodles? :dontknow:

Just cause he likes noodles? :dontknow:He works as a nail tech.

He works as a nail tech.


So just cause he's a tech means he likes math? That doesn't make him Asian. :nono2:

I should get Tennisplayer in here to kick your ass. He's asian which means he knows karate.

He should probably not expose himself to women while he's doing their nails.

I should get Tennisplayer in here to kick your ass. He's asian which means he knows karate.
I'm not scared of him. He must also be short, have a small penis, and be a bad driver.

Was he doing hands or feet on her? Maybe she misinterpreted the massage associated with mani/pedi's.

was he doing hands or feet on her? Maybe she misinterpreted the massage associated with man's/penis.

ftfy.

ftfy.I'm glad you fixed that. I was confused during my last pedicure. I didn't realize they normally involve one or more penises. Now it makes sense.

I'm glad you fixed that. I was confused during my last pedicure. I didn't realize they normally involve one or more penises. Now it makes sense.


If you aren't getting your penis massaged you should be getting massaged by a penis. That's why Rayzac told me. Is that wrong? :dontknow:

If you aren't getting your penis massaged you should be getting massaged by a penis. That's why Rayzac told me. Is that wrong? :dontknow:Why are you getting the inside of your cheeks massaged?

Why are you getting the inside of your cheeks massaged?


:facepalm:

Sorry. I stopped playing with micro-machines when I was a kid.

:lol2:

Now, I may have the definition of sexual harassment wrong. But, isn't sexual harassment between one person and another person of authority--i.e. someone's boss, supervisor, superior? I don't think it applies to just random ppl and random locations. Any sexual "talk" could be inappropriate and offensive. However, it isn't "sexual harassment".

If that was the case, then anyone could try to sue another person who was hitting on them at any bar, club, social setting, or anywhere!

OP,
At best, your friend could be fired for inappropriateness with customers. Honestly, I think it's a case where the customer is trying to get something out of this. Because, as a customer, she could just stop going to that place if a nail person tried to hit on her and said things that were offensive to her.

I worked in a nail salon before. we nailed a lot of girls.

I worked in a nail salon before. we nailed a lot of girls.
I'll bet you rode a unicorn to work, too.

Now, I may have the definition of sexual harassment wrong. But, isn't sexual harassment between one person and another person of authority--i.e. someone's boss, supervisor, superior? I don't think it applies to just random ppl and random locations. Any sexual "talk" could be inappropriate and offensive. However, it isn't "sexual harassment".

If that was the case, then anyone could try to sue another person who was hitting on them at any bar, club, social setting, or anywhere!

OP,
At best, your friend could be fired for inappropriateness with customers. Honestly, I think it's a case where the customer is trying to get something out of this. Because, as a customer, she could just stop going to that place if a nail person tried to hit on her and said things that were offensive to her.

My thinking as well. Unless he actually DID something like touch her inappropriately, I dont see where it is a matter for police. Now her coming back with a couple of guys to harass or intimidate may be another issue.
The problem the OPs "friend" is going to have is with management of the salon.

Now, I may have the definition of sexual harassment wrong. But, isn't sexual harassment between one person and another person of authority--i.e. someone's boss, supervisor, superior? I don't think it applies to just random ppl and random locations. Any sexual "talk" could be inappropriate and offensive. However, it isn't "sexual harassment".

If that was the case, then anyone could try to sue another person who was hitting on them at any bar, club, social setting, or anywhere!

OP,
At best, your friend could be fired for inappropriateness with customers. Honestly, I think it's a case where the customer is trying to get something out of this. Because, as a customer, she could just stop going to that place if a nail person tried to hit on her and said things that were offensive to her.
Example of SH (Sexual Harrassment) on a UC Campus...

At UC Davis...if for instance you are construction worker, just doing your job, etc and one of the students thinks you have leered at you for more then 3 seconds, you and the company you work for could be held liable for SH.

So just checking out the hawt chick (or ugly ones for that matter) can get you sued and your employer kicked off a UC Campus.:bulb:

So the Worker would not be in a position of superior authority to the student.

I'll bet you rode a unicorn to work, too.

I worked in a zoo before, we rode a lot of unicorns.

Example of SH (Sexual Harrassment) on a UC Campus...

At UC Davis...if for instance you are construction worker, just doing your job, etc and one of the students thinks you have leered at you for more then 3 seconds, you and the company you work for could be held liable for SH.

So just checking out the hawt chick (or ugly ones for that matter) can get you sued and your employer kicked off a UC Campus.:bulb:

So the Worker would not be in a position of superior authority to the student.

Well, I think there are specifics with the above case that can make it somewhat like SH. First, it concerns a student on campus. Secondly, the construction worker is technically a school employee......although, he's more like an independent contractor. And so, it could be considered SH because the school has created an uncomfortable situation for its student who has to be at the school.

However, let's say it's a construction worker who was leering at some random person (not student) at his work site. That would NOT be SH.

I'm not saying that SH only applies with employee and employers/superiors. It can occur with classmates and teachers, fellow classmates, and TA's too. But certainly, it wouldn't apply with business employee and customer when it's just inappropriate talk.

Sorry. I stopped playing with micro-machines when I was a kid.

:roll:

So the Worker would not be in a position of superior authority to the student.

Maybe said student is an art history major. Would that not make most people superior?

I'll bet you rode a unicorn to work, too.

:lmao:

Example of SH (Sexual Harrassment) on a UC Campus...

At UC Davis...if for instance you are construction worker, just doing your job, etc and one of the students thinks you have leered at you for more then 3 seconds, you and the company you work for could be held liable for SH.

So just checking out the hawt chick (or ugly ones for that matter) can get you sued and your employer kicked off a UC Campus.:bulb:

So the Worker would not be in a position of superior authority to the student.

3 seconds? Seriously? That's just crazy! I don't enjoy unwanted attention from some jerk, but come on! Sometimes you just gotta ignore "other people's children".

Maybe said student is an art history major. Would that not make most people superior?
:snicker:

:lmao:



3 seconds? Seriously? That's just crazy! I don't enjoy unwanted attention from some jerk, but come on! Sometimes you just gotta ignore "other people's children".
Yeah...it's the 3 second rule...no lookie longer then 3 seconds...else it's "Leering" at her...

:facepalm2:

3 seconds? Seriously? That's just crazy! I don't enjoy unwanted attention from some jerk, but come on! Sometimes you just gotta ignore "other people's children".

You have no idea what I can do in three seconds.

was he doing hands or feet on her? Maybe she misinterpreted the massage associated with man's/penis.

ftfy.

You have no idea what I can do in three seconds.

:bigeye: :nono:

You have no idea what I can do in three seconds.

That quick heh? Amazing that you would broadcast the fact! :bigeye:


(j/k)

Maybe said student is an art history major. Would that not make most people superior?

Hey! You got sumthin against art history? :ranting: :smack:

More info: he was working on fingernails. The accuser has been coming to the shop for 6+ months.

By now the cops have arrived, yes? What happened with this incident and what is the woman saying he did?

By now the cops have arrived, yes? What happened with this incident and what is the woman saying he did?
:iagree: actual detail might help..

I would let someone sexually harass me for a mani/pedi. My cuticles are horrible.

I already know he's Asian.
Just cause he likes noodles? :dontknow:
So just cause he's a tech means he likes math? That doesn't make him Asian. :nono2:

I should get Tennisplayer in here to kick your ass. He's asian which means he knows karate.
I'm not scared of him. He must also be short, have a small penis, and be a bad driver.

That so wong. Rhy you say that? You no funny. He just ask she have boyfreen, and she get mad.

Now, I may have the definition of sexual harassment wrong. But, isn't sexual harassment between one person and another person of authority--i.e. someone's boss, supervisor, superior? I don't think it applies to just random ppl and random locations. Any sexual "talk" could be inappropriate and offensive. However, it isn't "sexual harassment".

If that was the case, then anyone could try to sue another person who was hitting on them at any bar, club, social setting, or anywhere!

OP,
At best, your friend could be fired for inappropriateness with customers. Honestly, I think it's a case where the customer is trying to get something out of this. Because, as a customer, she could just stop going to that place if a nail person tried to hit on her and said things that were offensive to her.

When it occurs in a public place it's called Public Accommodation Discrimination. You may not, at any establishment discriminate against customers on the basis (state and federal law) of gender, race, religion, or disability. So if you work at a movie theater and slap a patron on the butt or make lewd remarks to her that's harassment on the basis of gender. It could be grounds for a lawsuit against the theater and she can sue you personally in civil court.

:iagree: actual detail might help..

:iagree: Witnesses? What went down? It's a civil case so the police should not be called, as someone already noted, unless there is some physical threat made or something. Even then, you go to the court and request an TRO which has nothing to do with the police.

When it occurs in a public place it's called Public Accommodation Discrimination. You may not, at any establishment discriminate against customers on the basis (state and federal law) of gender, race, religion, or disability. So if you work at a movie theater and slap a patron on the butt or make lewd remarks to her that's harassment on the basis of gender. It could be grounds for a lawsuit against the theater and she can sue you personally in civil court.



:iagree: Witnesses? What went down? It's a civil case so the police should not be called, as someone already noted, unless there is some physical threat made or something. Even then, you go to the court and request an TRO which has nothing to do with the police.

Sure, but has anyone won any lawsuits and cash awards for such cases? I would think that if the cases were extreme, it would be possible. But, innocent flirtation and sexual innuendo at a nail salon between the nail person and customer wouldn't be enough for such lawsuits, right?

As far as your example above, of course slapping her on the butt is really bad. So, let's not even go that route. And as far as grounds for a lawsuit, any person can sue for any reason. But, will that person prevail in court? That's the key.

That quick heh? Amazing that you would broadcast the fact! :bigeye:


No one reads the lounge, I am safe.



Hey! You got sumthin against art history? :ranting: :smack:

Uhhhh....no....I couldn't decide between art history and chemical engineering to make fun of. They truly are almost the same...so it was a toss up. :D

So if you work at a movie theater and slap a patron on the butt or make lewd remarks to her that's harassment on the basis of gender.

What if the person slaps both genders on the buttocks equally?

I kid!

:iagree: Witnesses?

:ermm:

As far as your example above, of course slapping her on the butt is really bad. .

What???? That's bad? How else will I meet new beeyotches? Gotta break the ice some way, right?

Sure, but has anyone won any lawsuits and cash awards for such cases? I would think that if the cases were extreme, it would be possible. But, innocent flirtation and sexual innuendo at a nail salon between the nail person and customer wouldn't be enough for such lawsuits, right?

As far as your example above, of course slapping her on the butt is really bad. So, let's not even go that route. And as far as grounds for a lawsuit, any person can sue for any reason. But, will that person prevail in court? That's the key.

Yes! Why your tax dollars go to fund a completely dysfunctional entity called the Human Rights Commission or variations. They assist thousands of people complaining of housing discrimination and public accommodation discrimination every year. If the company chooses to mediate with you the HRC can get you around $10,000 and you wont even have to step foot in court or hire a lawyer. But because people abuse the system they are overwhelmed with complaints which take about 2 years on average to get through. :facepalm2:

It doesn't need to be extreme (whatever that means). In civil court you only need to prove that it's more likely than not that the defendant did the deed. But it helps to have witnesses, to show it's happened before, to provide the court with medical bills.

It doesn't need to be extreme (whatever that means). In civil court you only need to prove that it's more likely than not that the defendant did the deed. But it helps to have witnesses, to show it's happened before, to provide the court with medical bills.

I'm fairly sure "hey baby, you got a boyfriend?" rarely necessitates a trip to the doctor.

Yes! Why your tax dollars go to fund a completely dysfunctional entity called the Human Rights Commission or variations. They assist thousands of people complaining of housing discrimination and public accommodation discrimination every year. If the company chooses to mediate with you the HRC can get you around $10,000 and you wont even have to step foot in court or hire a lawyer. But because people abuse the system they are overwhelmed with complaints which take about 2 years on average to get through. :facepalm2:

It doesn't need to be extreme (whatever that means). In civil court you only need to prove that it's more likely than not that the defendant did the deed. But it helps to have witnesses, to show it's happened before, to provide the court with medical bills.

But, is there precedent where a judgement was award for a specific instance where an employee at a business made sexual comments to a customer in passing?

I'm fairly sure "hey baby, you got a boyfriend?" rarely necessitates a trip to the doctor.

Emotional distress, PTSD, compensatory damages, future trips to the psych, lost income.

Emotional distress, PTSD, compensatory damages, future trips to the psych, lost income.

Remind me not to smack your ass in a movie theater.

Remind me not to smack your ass in a movie theater.

The sad thing is that the character Glenn Close plays on Damages is pretty consistent with the female attorneys I've encountered. Yikes!

No one reads the lounge, I am safe.



Uhhhh....no....I couldn't decide between art history and chemical engineering to make fun of. They truly are almost the same...so it was a toss up. :D

art history > chemical engineering :nod: You don't have to do algebra.:lol:

She is just playing hard to get, tell him to crank it up a few notches.

The sad thing is that the character Glenn Close plays on Damages is pretty consistent with the female attorneys I've encountered. Yikes!

Are you telling me what movie you are going to see? I believe I have enough witnesses that slapping your ass is now free game.

She is just playing hard to get, tell him to crank it up a few notches.
:lmao::lmao::lmao:

No more don't ask don't tell in the military, I bet I get pinched now. :dontknow:

No more don't ask don't tell in the military, I bet I get pinched now. :dontknow:

Are you serious? Do many military guys really think that now?

I can tell you that I've worked in environments where there are A LOT of gay guys around me. NEVER has a gay man come on to me or done anything to make me feel uncomfortable. Most gay men know their boundaries. And, despite the fear that many homophobic men have, gay men aren't actively out there trying to turn straight men gay! They usually know who's gay and they won't hit on you if you're straight.

No more don't ask don't tell in the military, I bet I get pinched now. :dontknow:

I'd shower with you but I shower with women several days a week so not a big deal.

Every gay man's fantasy involves a straight guy. I'm just sayin'.

No more don't ask don't tell in the military, I bet I get pinched now. :dontknow:



Mmmmm.......military wimmens getting frisky.

Mind is racin'.....cupcakes, frosting, pinching....






Need a smoke now...
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OP hasn't come back. :( Was looking to see what happened. Derp.

Gosh loungies, scaring everyone off...

In civil court you only need to prove that it's more likely than not that the defendant did the deed. But it helps to have witnesses, to show it's happened before, to provide the court with medical bills.

My favorite is the ol' "lack of consortium". Amazing how you can't prove it, but it's usually good for the victums spouse to pocket 25k.

I'm fairly sure "hey baby, you got a boyfriend?" rarely necessitates a trip to the doctor.

Yep! Dr. Phil no less. :nod:



Need a smoke now...
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So tell us, is this the artwork that hangs behind your bed? :evil:

1. Stop sexually harassing customers.
2. Call a lawyer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1zGvQ9WcWg

So just cause he's a tech means he likes math? That doesn't make him Asian. :nono2:

I should get Tennisplayer in here to kick your ass. He's asian which means he knows karate.

Let me know...

I'm not scared of him. He must also be short, have a small penis, and be a bad driver.

I'm 5'8" in height, not sure what the Asian avg. is, but I am willing to assume I am above it. I believe it is 5'6", but I can be wrong. Also has for my "size", lets just say I am bigger than the normal Asian male, don't ask me how I know (gym locker rooms, my school is 50% Asian, you are bound to see things that you do not want to, and for what it's worth, is it bad to laugh when you see something small?), and I am not gay/homosexual in anyway. As for driving, I do not believe I am bad, have not gotten any tickets or anything I keep within the 10mph buffer, so if its 65 I got around 73.

Let me know...

Get 'em TP! :highfive:

I would let someone sexually harass me for a mani/pedi. My cuticles are horrible.
Don't you normally pay to be sexually harassed?

Are you serious? Do many military guys really think that now?

I can tell you that I've worked in environments where there are A LOT of gay guys around me. NEVER has a gay man come on to me or done anything to make me feel uncomfortable. Most gay men know their boundaries. And, despite the fear that many homophobic men have, gay men aren't actively out there trying to turn straight men gay! They usually know who's gay and they won't hit on you if you're straight. have you ever noticed that I don't reply to most of your post? You have no sense of humor. This is the lounge is anyone ever serious??????
:secret: My youngest DD is a Lesbian.

I'd shower with you but I shower with women several days a week so not a big deal.'. :sadwalk:
Mmmmm.......military wimmens getting frisky.

Mind is racin'.....cupcakes, frosting, pinching....






Need a smoke now...
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:roll:

Don't you normally pay to be sexually harassed?
Only on Wednesdays. How much this week ;)

OP hasn't come back. :( Was looking to see what happened. Derp.

Gosh loungies, scaring everyone off...I try my best. I could send you naked pics of me if the Lounge wants me to scare you off.

I try my best. I could send you naked pics of me if the Lounge wants me to scare you off.







I never got mine. :crying:

I never got mine. :crying:I don't want you to leave. :hug:

I don't want you to leave. :hug: :hug2: but you did say I'll show you mine if you show me yours. :mad:

:hug2: but you did say I'll show you mine if you show me yours. :mad:
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Your turn.

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Your turn.
:bonk:

The woman should be charged for leaving the kitchen.:nod:

How in the world you women are able to prepare a meal and keep long nails is beyond me :dontknow:

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Your turn.
That's an awfully big hole you have.

I'd shower with you but I shower with women several days a week so not a big deal.

Go on...©

have you ever noticed that I don't reply to most of your post? You have no sense of humor. This is the lounge is anyone ever serious??????
:secret: My youngest DD is a Lesbian.

:sadwalk:

:roll:

LOL......sorry. I didn't know you were joking. Hence, I asked if you were serious. Usually though, I'm used to sarcastic remarks that are followed by a smilie.

Ooops posted twice!

LOL......sorry. I didn't know you were joking. Hence, I asked if you were serious. Usually though, I'm used to sarcastic remarks that are followed by a smilie.
;) fixed now! Lol

My youngest DD is a Lesbian.

She does it for the male attention!

:hug2: but you did say I'll show you mine if you show me yours. :mad:

Gosh. You never sexually harass me like that. :nono2:

Gosh. You never sexually harass me like that. :nono2:
I was told you didn't put out. :dontknow:

I was told you didn't put out. :dontknow:

True.

True.
:sadwalk:

:sadwalk:

Sorry. No refunds, no returns, no exceptions. Wait. I could give you a "military discount." Not sure what that is though.

Sorry. No refunds, no returns, no exceptions. Wait. I could give you a "military discount." Not sure what that is though.
:woot2: :whip:

:woot2: :whip:

BTW, I dare you to report for duty in pink!

BTW, I dare you to report for duty in pink!
Can you say NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!