I posted this in another thread, but thought I would mention it again, as it seems to bear repeating: I know how to solve the problem of the "thumbs down maniac" real fast: make it so that whoever thumbs up or thumbs down a deal is visible to the community. (And not just visible to mods) I bet there would be a big drop in the "thumbs down bandit" situation is the annonimity was taken away

I like the thumbs down. I think it's good to be able to vote that way if it's a product or company you don't like or had a bad experience with.

I like the thumbs down. I think it's good to be able to vote that way if it's a product or company you don't like or had a bad experience with.

I like it too...when it's used for it's true purpose. When I see it being abused, as is the case in the freebie forum quite often, I think it needs to be a bit more regulated. I am not saying get rid of the thumbs down. I am saying make it visible to users who voted that way.

I think anonymous feedback is good too. Try to give valuable suggestions & you may get this...

Thanks for your useless comment.

I'm seriiously considering it...thanks for your asspinion

I think anonymous feedback is good too. Try to give valuable suggestions & you may get this...


So, either way, we're all screwed, huh? :lol:

Again, I agree with you.......to a point. Annoynmotity (sp?) has it's good and bad points. In this case, I think the bad outweighs the good, in that someone is taking joy in giving a big ol' thumbs down to many deals that gets posted in the freebie forum, for no good reason whatsoever.

:iagree:

I also think it should be public. I posted a TRU deal a week or so ago and it had all thumbs down. I asked what the hell was wrong with everyone (it was buy one get two free mistake) and magically it was all thumbs up.

I don't look at posts that have all thumbs down but it is starting to seem like good deals or certain posters get them now.

I don't think it is a good idea. We don't need people going after others who gave a thread a thumbs down and harassing them for it. More trouble than necessary.

Most threads will self correct itself if it actually is a decent deal. If not, then usually a thread isn't good enough to warrant correction and probably deserves the red thumbs.

I don't think it is a good idea. We don't need people going after others who gave a thread a thumbs down and harassing them for it. More trouble than necessary.

Most threads will self correct itself if it actually is a decent deal. If not, then usually a thread isn't good enough to warrant correction and probably deserves the red thumbs.


How would they "go after" someone and harass them?

Maybe it should be a requirement that, if you post a thumbs down you also must give an explanation as to why you have done so.

How would they "go after" someone and harass them?

Maybe it should be a requirement that, if you post a thumbs down you also must give an explanation as to why you have done so.

Oh I dunno, like harassment through PM's for one. In the same thread for two. If goes on in the thread, sometimes you'll get a lovely back and forth between at least two people and it can spiral if not caught/handled quickly.

It will just lead to more trouble than necessary. I say this because I have seen this happen before.

Oh I dunno, like harassment through PM's for one. In the same thread for two. If goes on in the thread, sometimes you'll get a lovely back and forth between at least two people and it can spiral if not caught/handled quickly.

It will just lead to more trouble than necessary. I say this because I have seen this happen before.


I do see your point, and I agree. I just wish there was a way to manage the ratings system for the threads a bit better. I don't like seeing the abuse; it defeats the purpose.

I do see your point, and I agree. I just wish there was a way to manage the ratings system for the threads a bit better. I don't like seeing the abuse; it defeats the purpose.

I agree with your concerns on the rating system, because its abuse does tend to rear its head from time to time. In many cases, as I mentioned, most threads will correct itself by other SD'ers who disagree with the thumbs. However, in some cases, I have seen the mods reset the thumbs to zip.

I believe if there is a concern for a thread getting heavy in the red, then a mod alert on the thread in question would probably be the best course of action followed with a explanation for the alert and why the ratings need to be looked at.

many times a post has many thumbs down when it is posted in the Hot Deals forum when it doesn't belong there. when it gets moved to the proper forum, the ratings go too...

Psst...
Mods can't see who voted what. Only Mr. SD

Perhaps a limit on how many thumbs down one can give out a day? There's a limit on reps. Could a limit be placed on the thumbs down?
I often wonder why a thread has so many thumbs down. It would be nice to see an optional comment section that could go with the thumb up/down.

Perhaps a limit on how many thumbs down one can give out a day? There's a limit on reps. Could a limit be placed on the thumbs down?
I often wonder why a thread has so many thumbs down. It would be nice to see an optional comment section that could go with the thumb up/down.

I like that suggestion alot! :nod:

My experience here tells me that the people who post in HDs are different than Coupons, who are different than Freebies, C&S, DT, etc. I catch people who purposely thumb down 1 members post, no matter what they post. Others thumb down if the deal doesn't work for them, or if it's something they are not interested in. Or if it's in the wrong section.

To each their own.

True, Kel..........

Perhaps a limit on how many thumbs down one can give out a day? There's a limit on reps. Could a limit be placed on the thumbs down?
Only if there is a limit to posting spam sites and junk.

We have all been burned by the unexplainable thumbs down... that feeling alone keeps the greater majority from doing it.

But, I honestly think that the issue that bothers me more is the completely unexplainable thumbs up! Seriously... some users can post confirmed spam sites and get a thumbs up thread. There is one out there right now that even tells you it is crap right in the title... and they all post, "thank you" and "repped". :yuk:

I catch people who purposely thumb down 1 members post, no matter what they post.


:nod: Thumbs down is the replacement for frustrated people who can't nerp anymore.

I agree that a thumbs down or up should have to be accompanied by some kind of comment as to why you are giving it.

I have noticed that people in Freebies have started giving Thumbs down to newies who repost and to frequest reposters. I pointed out the futility of this in one thread but I dout it made a difference. In the time it takes to give a thumbs down, a user could execute a search for the original thread and then in a few more seconds, mod alert the repost. Y just thuming it down, all you are saying is "I hate reposts but won't do a dern thing to help fix the problem."

I feel thumbs down can be very helpful in alerting people to the Phishing offers that show up in rashes (and we are in a rash of them now) but most folks seem to use the feature to beat down newies posting in the wrong forum or to express anger at a repost without actually doing anything constructive.

Redsolar and I have discussed this awhile back and it's kind of interesting to see the same points rehashed in this thread. They're all good ideas so expect to see some of it implemented. Oh, there definately won't be a Boost button. :)

Thumbs down bandit....

This is a serious problem that needs our immeadiate attention... oh wait...
brb
My poptart is done.

Redsolar and I have discussed this awhile back and it's kind of interesting to see the same points rehashed in this thread. They're all good ideas so expect to see some of it implemented. Oh, there definately won't be a Boost button. :)


Mr SD replied to my thread!!!!!! :faint:

:lol: I'm glad to know this is being looked into. Thank you very much! :nod:

lol finzz the mods deleted all my fun! :hug:

I think probably one of the most annoying things to me is when something is a good deal, but it's ymmv and it says so clearly in the title, yet people still thumbs down it if it isn't in their area.

I see nothing wrong with the current system.

Threads are for posting comments - if someone wants to comment, he will.

Requiring comments from voters would either add a bunch of posts that would not have otherwise occurred but would be of meaningless content, along the lines of, "I agree," or, "This deal stinks." Having a bunch of comments like that adds nothing. People who want to contribute verbage do so now.

I think some frustrated OPs are being too emotional about their thread ratings. So what if you don't get a bunch of thumbs up? You did your part. It's up to others to sift through the threads to find what they want. Some people seem to perceive a thumbs down as a PERSONAL rejection!

The shortcomings of the thumbs up/down system should be readily apparent to visitors. Smarter visitors will know to evaluate each deal for what it means to them and not base their entire judgment on the rating.

It takes individual effort, such as weighing the deals for their actual value - not their rating.

How would they "go after" someone and harass them?

Maybe it should be a requirement that, if you post a thumbs down you also must give an explanation as to why you have done so.


Ive brought this Thumbs rating issue up multiple times w/o any results but here goes again maybe since your a hot looking chick it might get noticed more :lmao: . Without accountability (names showing up like they do with people voting in polls) the rating system has little or no value. Have it required that they post on the thread at least if they have to post they will give a reason for their thumbs down or think twice before doing it. How about this unless you post on the thread you cant give it a rating. If this cant be done pull the thumbs up /thumbs down system completely.

I see nothing wrong with the current system.

Threads are for posting comments - if someone wants to comment, he will.

Requiring comments from voters would either add a bunch of posts that would not have otherwise occurred but would be of meaningless content, along the lines of, "I agree," or, "This deal stinks." Having a bunch of comments like that adds nothing. People who want to contribute verbage do so now.

I think some frustrated OPs are being too emotional about their thread ratings. So what if you don't get a bunch of thumbs up? You did your part. It's up to others to sift through the threads to find what they want. Some people seem to perceive a thumbs down as a PERSONAL rejection!

The shortcomings of the thumbs up/down system should be readily apparent to visitors. Smarter visitors will know to evaluate each deal for what it means to them and not base their entire judgment on the rating.

It takes individual effort, such as weighing the deals for their actual value - not their rating.

I disagree requiring comments would discourage threadcrappers since there finger prints would appear all over it. I have seen plenty of 1 post threads with thumbs down not a single comment one can only make assumptions as to why. Maybe it was one of the many cliques on here and posted that a deal was bad when it was and then the poster of that thread wanted revenge so he get his friends to all thumbs down the guys post. People see a lot of thimbs down will skip over that deal. Yes the OP maybe frustrated often rightly so if there was absolutely no post telling them why their thread was a bad deal. This may discourage them from even trying to post any further deals. On the rare occasion I used a thumbs down a posted a legitimate valid reason for it in the thread so the OP and others can learn something new.

Ive brought this Thumbs rating issue up multiple times w/o any results but here goes again maybe since your a hot looking chick it might get noticed more


Thanks!! :lmao:

HaHa. I came here to start a thread saying that the Thumbs Down should be abolished. I'm glad I checked the existing threads first. :lol:

In a perfect world, the Thumbs Down would be a useful tool, indicating which deals have serious flaws and don't merit attention - expired rebates, forgotten shipping charges, a better deal at another retailer, a better deal on a superior product. But it's not a perfect world. The Thumbs Down is used here, from what I see, primarily for four purposes:
To "punish" a poster the Thumber doesn't like. The deal may be good, bad or somewhere in between. It doesn't matter. The Thumbs Down is thrown like a death card on an enemy's corpse. "Think you're gonna get more freakin' Rep Points than me! Take that f__ker!!"
To "punish" a retailer the Thumber doesn't like. Again the value of the deal is irrelevant. Some transgression was committed by this particular merchant against the Thumber and from that point in time forward and for all time, said merchant will always get a Thumbs Down whenever its name is mentioned. "Deny my rebate just cuz I forgot the freakin' receipt!! Take that f__ker!!"
To "punish" a class of products the Thumber doesn't like. A fourteen year-old boy encountering an SD for cookware draws his Thumbs Down like a gun. "Cookware! Who needs freakin' cookware! Take that f__ker!!"
To "punish" a post that should be ModAlert-ed - reposts, posts in the wrong forum section, spam. Instead of notifying a moderator and getting the problem fixed, the Thumber hurls his Thumbs Down like a Ninja with a Throwing Star. "What are you freakin' stoopid. This was posted yesterday. Take that f__cker!"

The Thumbs Up is a wonderful asset and not likely to be misused. See a post with 3 or 4 of those, and you know you must have a look. The Thumbs Down serves no such useful purpose - wielded all too frequently by adolescents and those of adolescent mental age, its function has been co-opted for petty spitework and personal agenda. Bottom line: It's used to hurt and not help. I say get rid of it.

PhiloVance - I have a new vocabulary word for you: FARK

Fark
Farker
Farking

When I first saw it on slick deals so long ago, I actually mod-alerted it becuase it was so clearly a thinly disguised substute for the word you were reaching for above.:lol: A mod told me to get over myself and embrace it and I have. I have since embraced "Fargin Rastard" as well.

PhiloVance - I have a new vocabulary word for you: FARK

Fark
Farker
Farking

When I first saw it on slick deals so long ago, I actually mod-alerted it becuase it was so clearly a thinly disguised substute for the word you were reaching for above.:lol: A mod told me to get over myself and embrace it and I have. I have since embraced "Fargin Rastard" as well.

Heh heh. Thanks, Nuala'sMom. I actually did know that one, I just didn't think to use it. If you've been at SD for more than 20 minutes, you know all about fark.. I'll do better next time. :lol:

HaHa. I came here to start a thread saying that the Thumbs Down should be abolished. I'm glad I checked the existing threads first. :lol:

In a perfect world, the Thumbs Down would be a useful tool, indicating which deals have serious flaws and don't merit attention - expired rebates, forgotten shipping charges, a better deal at another retailer, a better deal on a superior product. But it's not a perfect world. The Thumbs Down is used here, from what I see, primarily for four purposes:
To "punish" a poster the Thumber doesn't like. The deal may be good, bad or somewhere in between. It doesn't matter. The Thumbs Down is thrown like a death card on an enemy's corpse. "Think you're gonna get more freakin' Rep Points than me! Take that f__ker!!"
To "punish" a retailer the Thumber doesn't like. Again the value of the deal is irrelevant. Some transgression was committed by this particular merchant against the Thumber and from that point in time forward and for all time, said merchant will always get a Thumbs Down whenever its name is mentioned. "Deny my rebate just cuz I forgot the freakin' receipt!! Take that f__ker!!"
To "punish" a class of products the Thumber doesn't like. A fourteen year-old boy encountering an SD for cookware draws his Thumbs Down like a gun. "Cookware! Who needs freakin' cookware! Take that f__ker!!"
To "punish" a post that should be ModAlert-ed - reposts, posts in the wrong forum section, spam. Instead of notifying a moderator and getting the problem fixed, the Thumber hurls his Thumbs Down like a Ninja with a Throwing Star. "What are you freakin' stoopid. This was posted yesterday. Take that f__cker!"

The Thumbs Up is a wonderful asset and not likely to be misused. See a post with 3 or 4 of those, and you know you must have a look. The Thumbs Down serves no such useful purpose - wielded all too frequently by adolescents and those of adolescent mental age, its function has been co-opted for petty spitework and personal agenda. Bottom line: It's used to hurt and not help. I say get rid of it.


:lmao:


Here is a great example of this I gave it a thumbs down so Two People must have given it a thumbs up to negate that.

I provided a legitimate reason and mine is the only other post replying to that thread. Its damn cliques there was no reason to give ia thumbs up at All.

http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?sduid=17733&t=360378

I have to agree with you... there wasn't even any explanation as to what this is for.

i dont really mind the thumbs down, i rarely use it and i use it...

but more care about the posts when something obviously comes(the usual 1st 200 or something, and we have trollers keepsaying i signed up in past and this/that didnt come)

my 2 cents;)

How would they "go after" someone and harass them?

Maybe it should be a requirement that, if you post a thumbs down you also must give an explanation as to why you have done so.

Also, Mr. SlickDeals has the ability to see who votes (thumbs up/down) on a thread. Anyone who purposely thumbs down a specific members post without citing a legitimate reason will either be warned or banned! (http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?sduid=86892&t=29618")

Also, Mr. SlickDeals has the ability to see who votes (thumbs up/down) on a thread. Anyone who purposely thumbs down a specific members post without citing a legitimate reason will either be warned or banned! (http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?sduid=86892&t=29618")


Hmm, interesting, that it is stated in the SD rules, but I don't think it is being enforced!

Hmm, interesting, that it is stated in the SD rules, but I don't think it is being enforced!


Only one person is able to see who rated a post. That seems a little impractical to enforce anything if thats the case. It needs to be made open and public like when polls are created.

:nod: Thumbs down is the replacement for frustrated people who can't nerp anymore.



:iagree:

Only one person is able to see who rated a post. That seems a little impractical to enforce anything if thats the case. It needs to be made open and public like when polls are created.I'd prefer to see this happen, but a nice compromise would be to allow the mods to see it. This way when the same person thumbs up or down a thread, they can be warned and potentially banned. And soon hopefully the thumbs up or down behavior without a legitimate reason will stop.

Hi SD gods,

I'm a long-time SD fan (I check 5 times a day), but felt compelled to register to make the following suggestion.

I primarily visit the Hot Deals forum, and my bank account attests to this fact. I really love the thumbs up/down rating system since it serves as a handy visual cue to deals I may pass over in my haste. I have noticed, however, that this system is less effective and accurate than it could be: users tend to give thumbs up/down without reason (this is especially confusing for fledgling threads given one or two thumbs down).

My suggestion is that posts have an extra binary attribute called "thumbed" or something. A post that is thumbed is a post in which a reason for a thumb vote is given. Then, later readers can click an "I second" vote for the thread if they agree with the post and wish to give a coroborrative thumbs up/down vote. This way, if you have a reason to thumbs up/down a post, you must either provide a reason or agree with a prior reason. I feel that this will naturally foster community voting accountability.

Comments?

I actually think something like this is a good idea. People abuse the thumbs down system just to be mean, to attack someone they have something against, or just because they feel the need to attack a beginner's legitimate attempt at sharing a deal. If the thumbs down is legitimate, I have absolutely no beef with that. It's the abuse that is really unfair.


Great topic!

This has been addressed before... I thought the mods were going to think about it.

You're probably right, but I haven't been here long enough to know that.

It was a great suggestion by the OP, even if it has been said before.

This has been addressed before... I thought the mods were going to think about it.

You're right that the issue has been addressed before, but that was all complaints or inklings-of-ideas-that-might-lead-to-a-possible-solution. As of yet, I could not find any concrete, well thought out and reasonably viable solution (w/ respect to implementation and deployment). All anyone has really suggested is that voters be publically listed. At which point flaming concerns were invoked.

The proposed idea does not focus on making voter lists public or not; this is a forum. I can stand up and say yay or nay to a deal and why. Others should be able to throw their hats into the ring if they agree, thats all. I don't care who is doing the voting, just the reason why, an aim that the method I've proposed fully facilitates. If the flaming argument is reinvoked, I propose that mods just utilize the policing system that's already in place and issue warnings to flamers of legit sounding complaints/praise, we have Mod Alert buttons already, and voters are most certainly bound to use them on illegit flamers. In this way, the "thumbs-interested" community will self-police, to a certain degree.

Yes? :look:

You're right that the issue has been addressed before, but that was all complaints or inklings-of-ideas-that-might-lead-to-a-possible-solution. As of yet, I could not find any concrete, well thought out and reasonably viable solution (w/ respect to implementation and deployment). All anyone has really suggested is that voters be publically listed. At which point flaming concerns were invoked.

The proposed idea does not focus on making voter lists public or not; this is a forum. I can stand up and say yay or nay to a deal and why. Others should be able to throw their hats into the ring if they agree, thats all. I don't care who is doing the voting, just the reason why, an aim that the method I've proposed fully facilitates. If the flaming argument is reinvoked, I propose that mods just utilize the policing system that's already in place and issue warnings to flamers of legit sounding complaints/praise, we have Mod Alert buttons already, and voters are most certainly bound to use them on illegit flamers. In this way, the "thumbs-interested" community will self-police, to a certain degree.

Yes? :look::iagree: and I hope this feature is implemented. Even though I know to look at the comments and the deal itself and not the rating of the thread

:iagree: and I hope this feature is implemented. Even though I know to look at the comments and the deal itself and not the rating of the thread

I too know to look at the comments and the deal itself. The point is that not many people have time to read every single new deal posted. Thumbs are more of a visual cue, a backup evaluation system for those of us who parse for key words as quick as possible. Its just really annoying to see a perfectly good looking deal with two thumbs down for no stated reason.

Also, concerns that so-called thumbs down "bandits" will circumnavigate this sentry mechanism are alleviated by the fact that the thumbs-interested community can again report illegit reasons (e.g. "asdlfkjasf", "stupid deal") to mods. Flexibility can even be found in how many warnings are given for certain violations.

i propose a "thumb to the side". users would know when i flag posts in this manner that i am hitchhiking on the information superhighway, and looking for someone to pay my internet service provider (outrageous comcast) bill.

i've learned to ignore the thumbs. seriously...

I too know to look at the comments and the deal itself. The point is that not many people have time to read every single new deal posted. Thumbs are more of a visual cue, a backup evaluation system for those of us who parse for key words as quick as possible. Its just really annoying to see a perfectly good looking deal with two thumbs down for no stated reason.

Also, concerns that so-called thumbs down "bandits" will circumnavigate this sentry mechanism are alleviated by the fact that the thumbs-interested community can again report illegit reasons (e.g. "asdlfkjasf", "stupid deal") to mods. Flexibility can even be found in how many warnings are given for certain violations.:iagree: To make it public, we would see deals that are worth the thumbs up or down. I have no problem if I had to write a comment and it is made public. The people that will have a problem with it are the ones that are threadcrappers and those that are hiding behind the invisibility factor. This forum will be less cluttered by making it public. Even if these people try to type "legitimate comments," they will have an extremely hard time doing so. There are few deals that are legitimately bad compared to a huge majority of good deals.

http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?sduid=51048&t=354545

http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?sduid=51048&t=354545

See post #5. Read before you reply.

See post #5. Read before you reply.

The same could be said to you, my friend. I was simply pointing out that this issue has been VERY RECENTLY looked into, and that Mr SD is aware of it.

See post #5. Read before you reply.

It's a repost, op... no need to snap at Finzz over it. The right thing to do would have been to search and see if the topic has been addressed, and added your $0.02 there. A new thread wasn't necessary. :shake:

In a perfect world, the Thumbs Down would be a useful tool, indicating which deals have serious flaws and don't merit attention - expired rebates, forgotten shipping charges, a better deal at another retailer, a better deal on a superior product. But it's not a perfect world. The Thumbs Down is used here, from what I see, primarily for four purposes:
To "punish" a poster the Thumber doesn't like. The deal may be good, bad or somewhere in between. It doesn't matter. The Thumbs Down is thrown like a death card on an enemy's corpse. "Think you're gonna get more freakin' Rep Points than me! Take that f__ker!!"
To "punish" a retailer the Thumber doesn't like. Again the value of the deal is irrelevant. Some transgression was committed by this particular merchant against the Thumber and from that point in time forward and for all time, said merchant will always get a Thumbs Down whenever its name is mentioned. "Deny my rebate just cuz I forgot the freakin' receipt!! Take that f__ker!!"
To "punish" a class of products the Thumber doesn't like. A fourteen year-old boy encountering an SD for cookware draws his Thumbs Down like a gun. "Cookware! Who needs freakin' cookware! Take that f__ker!!"
To "punish" a post that should be ModAlert-ed - reposts, posts in the wrong forum section, spam. Instead of notifying a moderator and getting the problem fixed, the Thumber hurls his Thumbs Down like a Ninja with a Throwing Star. "What are you freakin' stoopid. This was posted yesterday. Take that f__cker!"

I think this is a great list of Thumb's Down offenses. Maybe it could work like giving Reps and a window would pop up which you have to fill in with an explanation. I for one sure would like to know why the post is getting the Thumb's Down. Maybe their reason would not pertain to me. I am not a technical person so I don't know what would be involved in doing this.

I get really peeved when I see any thread with no responses (or one with only positive responses) get a Thumb's Down. I don't care if the thread was posted by someone who joined today or by Selma. This is why I have been posting:
Mr. SlickDeals Knows Whose Naughty Or Nice (http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?sduid=86892&t=296181)

Also, Mr. SlickDeals has the ability to see who votes (thumbs up/down) on a thread. Anyone who purposely thumbs down a specific members post without citing a legitimate reason will either be warned or banned!

Someone actually took the time to explain to me why a thread of Selma's was being Thumbed Down! I appreciate this person taking the time to do this, but I think they missed my point.

Another example (which I got an explanation for) is when I got accused of proselytizing because I posted Mormon freebies. I wonder how many other people gave it a Thumb's Down for this reason without an explanation. I responded that I am Jewish and they let me know that did not matter because I should not try to convert people to the Mormon faith in the freebies section.

I have only given one thread the Thumb's Down since I have been hanging out here.

EDIT: BTW the person who used this thread "A bunch of freebies for your hair"
http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?sduid=86892&t=29618&highlight=bunch+freebies+your+hair as an example of why people get Thumb's Down should read the freebie guidelines. They clearly state:

3 - Linking to other Freebie/Deal sites (http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?sduid=86892&t=296181)
This is a big no-no. Please do not do it! You are allowed to refer to a site if you are borrowing a post, but please do not link to the post on a competing site.

I'd prefer to see this happen, but a nice compromise would be to allow the mods to see it. This way when the same person thumbs up or down a thread, they can be warned and potentially banned. And soon hopefully the thumbs up or down behavior without a legitimate reason will stop.

The only problem with this R1yan is the MOD's are already busy.

I would think you could minimize the impact of serial thumbs downers by weighting a thumbs down to 1/5 value. In aggregate, if something deserves a thumbs down, many people would do it and it would eventually get one or more, yet it would prevent a serial thumber from having much impact by him/her self.

Someone DID ask for an anonymous(e) post in here. :lol:

I would think you could minimize the impact of serial thumbs downers by weighting a thumbs down to 1/5 value. In aggregate, if something deserves a thumbs down, many people would do it and it would eventually get one or more, yet it would prevent a serial thumber from having much impact by him/her self.

Someone DID ask for an anonymous(e) post in here. :lol:

I think that is an awesome idea. :thumbsup:

I think that is an awesome idea. :thumbsup:\


:iagree: good idea!!

I would think you could minimize the impact of serial thumbs downers by weighting a thumbs down to 1/5 value. In aggregate, if something deserves a thumbs down, many people would do it and it would eventually get one or more, yet it would prevent a serial thumber from having much impact by him/her self.

Someone DID ask for an anonymous(e) post in here. :lol:

You are as "beautiful" (handsome? :oops: ? You are :gather: so far back that I cannot see your face very clearly) as you are wise my little Anon Y. Mous(e)!

:iagree:

Probably better than my idea. Might be easier to do logistically.

i think public would be awesome....

or you can have the choice to be anonymous but then ur vote counts like half or a tenth of what it could have been

I would think you could minimize the impact of serial thumbs downers by weighting a thumbs down to 1/5 value. In aggregate, if something deserves a thumbs down, many people would do it and it would eventually get one or more, yet it would prevent a serial thumber from having much impact by him/her self.

Someone DID ask for an anonymous(e) post in here. :lol::iagree: Best idea yet. This would be the easiest to do.

The sad thing is, I used to rely on the thumbs to give me a clear idea of what was good to check out, and what should be skipped over. Now, due to the abuse, I don't know what to believe. They have become almost useless for me.

The sad thing is, I used to rely on the thumbs to give me a clear idea of what was good to check out, and what should be skipped over. Now, due to the abuse, I don't know what to believe. They have become almost useless for me.

I know what you mean. I'm actually intrigued when I see the thumbs down. I'll look at the post just out of curiousity. The more thumbs down a deal has, the more interested I am. :lol:

Hi. Coming into this conversation a bit late and I'm new...

I think if you have the ability to thumbs down a post and have to "tell the mods or Mr. SD why" then you can say it to the group. Unfortunately, the few times I've thumbs downed a thread and came out with a public explanation it got me some PM's that were a little over the top. You know, slightly sarcastic and clearly looking to pick a fight.

The only time I can see giving thumbs down is when the link doesn't appear valid, the deal looks fishy, or there turns out to be a S&H charge for a freebie.

Hi. Coming into this conversation a bit late and I'm new...

The only time I can see giving thumbs down is when the link doesn't appear valid, the deal looks fishy, or there turns out to be a S&H charge for a freebie.

Those are not good reasons to thumbs down a post in my humble opinion. I would in each of those cases, add a comment saying:

A.The link isn't working. here is the corrected link (or, I couldn't suss out a corrected link sorry)

B. This deal looks fishy because:
Reason number 1
Reason number 2
all other reasons with examples so folks "won't get fooled agaon" and then MOD ALERT said deal


C, Note the Shipping and Handling charge and MOD ALERT the post saying that there is a shipping and handling fee and thaerefore it should be moved to HOT DEALS.

Do you see how my way solves a problem and your way, the thumbs down, perpetuates it? I'm not trying to offend you, just trying to encourage you to be pro-active about Slick Deals. the more folks work at adding info the more info we all have, yes?

Those are not good reasons to thumbs down a post in my humble opinion. I would in each of those cases, add a comment saying:

A.The link isn't working. here is the corrected link (or, I couldn't suss out a corrected link sorry)

B. This deal looks fishy because:
Reason number 1
Reason number 2
all other reasons with examples so folks "won't get fooled agaon" and then MOD ALERT said deal


C, Note the Shipping and Handling charge and MOD ALERT the post saying that there is a shipping and handling fee and thaerefore it should be moved to HOT DEALS.

Do you see how my way solves a problem and your way, the thumbs down, perpetuates it? I'm not trying to offend you, just trying to encourage you to be pro-active about Slick Deals. the more folks work at adding info the more info we all have, yes?
This was very well said. I think the only time a thumbs down should happen is when it's a horrible deal... If someone puts up a post where at place A you can get a computer for 500 dollars, but you know if a place where you can get the same one for 400 dollars, thumbs down it and state why and the place where you can get it for cheaper.

Those are not good reasons to thumbs down a post in my humble opinion. I would in each of those cases, add a comment saying:

A.The link isn't working. here is the corrected link (or, I couldn't suss out a corrected link sorry)

B. This deal looks fishy because:
Reason number 1
Reason number 2
all other reasons with examples so folks "won't get fooled agaon" and then MOD ALERT said deal


C, Note the Shipping and Handling charge and MOD ALERT the post saying that there is a shipping and handling fee and thaerefore it should be moved to HOT DEALS.

Do you see how my way solves a problem and your way, the thumbs down, perpetuates it? I'm not trying to offend you, just trying to encourage you to be pro-active about Slick Deals. the more folks work at adding info the more info we all have, yes?

Nuala'sMom :hug: a voice of reason in an insane world! :)

How about if when you click on the thumbs down button a window pops up and asks "explain your thumbs down opionion"? Then what you type in there goes into a post in the thread. And if you don't put anything in it you can't thumbs down a thread. That way everyone would see who and why they did it.

or add a link that lists members who have voted and their vote

How about if when you click on the thumbs down button a window pops up and asks "explain your thumbs down opionion"? Then what you type in there goes into a post in the thread. And if you don't put anything in it you can't thumbs down a thread.

I would rather have the option of a different finger up button. That way I could express myself in a matter more familiar to me in RL.

I would rather have the option of a different finger up button. That way I could express myself in a matter more familiar to me in RL.


:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

or add a link that lists members who have voted and their vote
Not helpful enough. That still doesn't explain the reason behind the vote.

I think thats a great idea.....maybe even have it show who gave the thumbs down....this way we can see who likes to be a big bratty baby

i think it should show who gave it thumbs up or down

i think it should show who gave it thumbs up or down


I already said that :harhar:

:doh:

FWIW I think that's a great idea Tuffy!

http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?sduid=34855&t=354545&highlight=thumbs

FWIW I think that's a great idea Tuffy!
:iagree:

How about if when you click on the thumbs down button a window pops up and asks "explain your thumbs down opionion"? Then what you type in there goes into a post in the thread. And if you don't put anything in it you can't thumbs down a thread. That way everyone would see who and why they did it.
:iagree: :iagree: :iagree: :iagree: :iagree: :iagree: :iagree: :iagree: :iagree: :iagree:

http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?sduid=34855&t=354545&highlight=thumbs

My idea is alot more specific on how it would work. :P
I never saw that thread either. :P

My idea is alot more specific. :P
:lmao: :lmao: okie dokie

I think it was suggested in the "suggestions" forum...I don't recall what the responses were though :dontknow:

But it makes sense to have that as a feature.

What a great idea! Why didn't I think of it. Wait a minute I :censord2:

:lmao: :lmao: okie dokie

Well it is. :confused:

Well it is. :confused:
You are correct. I do believe it was covered in the suggestions forum. Have you posted a thread about it there?

You are correct. I do believe it was covered in the suggestions foru. Have you posted a thread about it there?

No, but I asked a mod to move this to the site suggestions area.

please mod alert threads you think have been struck by the bandit... we can see who voted, and we can help narrow it down.

please mod alert threads you think have been struck by the bandit... we can see who voted, and we can help narrow it down.

Just sent one.

My idea is alot more specific on how it would work. :P
I never saw that thread either. :P


Do you see it now, Tuffy??? :lol: :)

I came here to start a thread on this subject, and voilà, it's already been done!

In my early days here at SD, if I saw a lot of thumbs down, I wouldn't bother opening the thread. Now I know better, and ignore the thumbs down, or the thumbs ups. They are generally meaningless. Many times there are posts about a deal, that are clearly the best deal ever for that particular product. But if the morons deem that it's too expensive for them, or something they have no use for, they give it a thumbs down. At least when they post their useless threadcraps, many of us will take them to task for it, and challenge them to prove their point. The anonymous thumbs downs just lets them screw up good posts with no justification. I'm sure many potential buyers of products have been dissuaded away from buying great deals because of these idiots.

My vote goes to making thumbs up or down visible as to who voted and how......

PS

I would have given this thread a big thumbs up if you could in this forum.....


And I would have repped the OP..... Heck, I'll just look for another thread and do so.....:nod:

PS

I would have given this thread a big thumbs up if you could in this forum.....


And I would have repped the OP..... Heck, I'll just look for another thread and do so.....:nod:


What a nice thing to say! :)

Okay I have a question, How hard would it be to do this: Say I wanted to give a post a thumbs down, when I click thumbs down I am taken to an SD page where I have to choose the reason from a menu (for instance bad link, offer never came, phishing, etc.) If the reason I am giving it a thumbs down is not listed, I have to click other which will then prompt me to post a reason for the thumbs down. Ultimately you can not put a thumbs down without giving a reason.

For thumbs up, it takes you to a post a comment, you have to say good offer, dealt with this company before, thanks or whatever......

This would take a little setup time for the Mods but would it work?

I know I for one don't really pay attention to the thumbs up and thumbs down anymore because most of the time the are not truthful.....If a post has 2 thumbs down and all positive replies, I am most likely gonna sign up anyway. If a post has 5 thumbs up and mostly negative replies, well I'm gonna be wary.

this is just a thought.

I think a lot less people would thumbs down or up a deal if something like that happened... besides, if you're forced to choose an answer you can just choose whatever one you feel like it to still give it the thumbs down.

I think a lot less people would thumbs down or up a deal if something like that happened... besides, if you're forced to choose an answer you can just choose whatever one you feel like it to still give it the thumbs down.

I think it would help though because with a name and comment being posted automatically then the thumbs down bandits would be out in the open and people would learn who was being truthful and who is just trying to ruin a good thing. I'm in no way saying that the SD members should lash out at these people in PM or threads, just that if the people have to post a comment and are seen, it would cut down on the thumbs down without a real reason.

Maybe it's a good idea to have a drop down on the thumbs like when you click on someones name on their post it shows pm them, profile, whatever the other options are. Then you can hover over it and see whoevers name and reasoning, instead of them making posts automatically in the thread or something.
That seems reasonable... but probably hard to do.

Maybe it's a good idea to have a drop down on the thumbs like when you click on someones name on their post it shows pm them, profile, whatever the other options are. Then you can hover over it and see whoevers name and reasoning, instead of them making posts automatically in the thread or something.
That seems reasonable... but probably hard to do.

Does seem reasonable, good idea

We have to also discourage the "thumbs up maniac." I started a thread on that if anyone cares to contribute.:)

It seems better lately.

I think you should have to post and give a reason why before being allowed to vote thumbs down.

At any given time there are at least 100 - 150 people browsing the freebies forum but only a handful of users regularly post offers or know how much work goes into searching and posting.

Sometimes it's hard to be the one person explaining the offer is no good, when a dozen newbies who don't know any better, are praising it endlessly.

There are definately some people who cannot seem to restrain themselves and feel the need to bring political and moral beliefs up in thread offers. That's a big reason behind a lot of the thumbs down in freebies anyway.

The sad thing is, I used to rely on the thumbs to give me a clear idea of what was good to check out, and what should be skipped over. Now, due to the abuse, I don't know what to believe. They have become almost useless for me.

:iagree:

And that is the problem. Those who have been here for awhile realize the thumbs down is being abused or used incorrectly, so we look at the thumbs down threads anyway and try to post deals anyway -- not only in freebies, but in hot deals as well. But newer users don't know that and pass over perfectly good deals because of a red thumb, OR they stop posting deals we all could benefit from due to thumbs down with no reason.

Some say not to be so thin skinned and ignore the red thumbs, but I think there are as many, if not more, thin skinned members as there are members who will ignore the abuse.

Requiring a user to post a reason for a thumbs down is a good idea. If they post a legitimate reason, great -- and if they post something stupid like "abcdefg", then soon they realize everyone sees they are abusing the system and maybe they will stop. Or, it will escalate from there because those who have been given thumbs down will retaliate against those who gave them.

Getting rid of the thumbs up/down all together is a better idea. People who post good deals are going to get reps. People who post bad deals are not; plus they may get some mod alerts for their trouble. Good deals are rewarded with reps -- thumbs/up down doesn't work due to abuse.

Thumbs down just does not work because one person's idea of a great deal is someone else's idea of a bad one. A perfect example would be someone posting a deal for a VCR. It get's thumbs down even though it's a great price, a good brand, and has free shipping -- and WHY? Because Joe Red Thumb thinks it's an outdated piece of electronics. Maybe it is for him, so why did he even click on the thread? It isn't something he's interested in. The only reason he clicked it is to give it a thumbs down with no reason because he thinks since he doesn't want one, nobody else would, either. But MANY people still use VCR's to play their kids' tapes or to dub tapes to DVD, so a VCR deal of any kind to them is like gold since they are getting kind of hard to find.

Or maybe he clicked it and gave it thumbs down for one of the many other reasons listed in this thread: He doesn't like the OP, he thinks the OP has too many reps and he's jealous, he's having a bad day and is red thumbing everything in site, etc.

The reputation point system is in place and it rewards members for their posting of good deals and help.

Thumbs are useless and confusing to newer members -- thumbs can't be relied on as a tool to judge which deals are good or bad. Thumbs might be preventing many members from posting deals because of the abuse or misuse.

Well put, Callpocket :nod: I agree with all you had to say!