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124nic8
12-13-2011, 06:47 PM
NTSB recommends full ban on use of cell phones while driving (http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/13/us/ntsb-cell-phone-ban/index.html)

A federal safety board called Tuesday for a nationwide ban on the use of cell phones and text messaging devices while driving.

The recommendation is the most far-reaching yet by the National Transportation Safety Board, which in the past 10 years has increasingly sought to limit the use of portable electronic devices -- recommending bans for novice drivers, school bus drivers and commercial truckers. Tuesday's recommendation, if adopted by states, would outlaw non-emergency phone calls and texting by operators of every vehicle on the road.

It would apply to hands-free as well as hand-held devices, but devices installed in the vehicle by the manufacturer would be allowed, the NTSB said.


I support this ban except for the bolded part. Not that I would obey it under all circustances. ;)

There are too many idiots who can barely drive without a cell phone in their ear.

horskj
12-13-2011, 06:53 PM
NTSB recommends full ban on use of cell phones while driving (http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/13/us/ntsb-cell-phone-ban/index.html)



I support this ban except for the bolded part. Not that I would obey it under all circustances. ;)

There are too many idiots who can barely drive without a cell phone in their ear.


Nic… we find something to agree on... the bold part


I cover 4 states and about 60,000 miles a year, so that is a lot of windshield time but I still have to get things accomplished.
My CTS has a built-in blue tooth and voice activated dialing… what is the difference between that and if you were talking to someone in the passenger seat?

You are right about one thing :
“There are too many idiots who can barely drive without a cell phone in their ear.”…124nic8

Notquiteclapton
12-13-2011, 06:56 PM
Why on earth does it matter if a device was installed by the manufacturer or not.

nobama
12-13-2011, 07:31 PM
All cell phone use while operating a motor vehicle including texting should be banned by law and it should be made a primary offense, except in cases of actual emergencies.

The first offense should be a civil infraction and any subsequent offenses should be criminal traffic offenses with jail time possible.

If a driver is involved in a motor vehicle accident and it is determined that the driver was talking or texting on a cell phone in the same time frame as the accident, then the offense, whether or not it's the driver's first, should be a higher degree criminal traffic offense with mandatory jail time and loss of operator's license and should be non plea-bargainable.

larrymoencurly
12-13-2011, 07:47 PM
Hands-free devices don't seem to reduce accidents.

My father didn't allow any talking at all in the car while he was driving.

paperboy05
12-14-2011, 06:40 AM
All cell phone use while operating a motor vehicle including texting should be banned by law and it should be made a primary offense, except in cases of actual emergencies.

The first offense should be a civil infraction and any subsequent offenses should be criminal traffic offenses with jail time possible.

If a driver is involved in a motor vehicle accident and it is determined that the driver was talking or texting on a cell phone in the same time frame as the accident, then the offense, whether or not it's the driver's first, should be a higher degree criminal traffic offense with mandatory jail time and loss of operator's license and should be non plea-bargainable.
Why shouldn't that be the case with all driving distractions? Why limit it solely to cell phone use?

jeba9999
12-14-2011, 07:30 AM
I support this ban whole heartedly....except for me. I am very safe when I drive and talk

qwertyaas
12-14-2011, 07:41 AM
Why on earth does it matter if a device was installed by the manufacturer or not.

Kickbacks from the car companies, OnStar...? :confused:

talgot
12-14-2011, 08:01 AM
All cell phone use while operating a motor vehicle including texting should be banned by law and it should be made a primary offense, except in cases of actual emergencies.

The first offense should be a civil infraction and any subsequent offenses should be criminal traffic offenses with jail time possible.

If a driver is involved in a motor vehicle accident and it is determined that the driver was talking or texting on a cell phone in the same time frame as the accident, then the offense, whether or not it's the driver's first, should be a higher degree criminal traffic offense with mandatory jail time and loss of operator's license and should be non plea-bargainable.
Lets ban all food. And while your at it if you are caught putting on a glove or hat while you are driving should aslo be banned and fined. Smoking! don't get me started on them! Oh and if you are singing to the radio... lets get them too. Heck we should ban stereos from cars as well. Changing the channel or a cd or whatnot can be very distracting. Any driver caught talking to anyone else in the car should be fined. Maybe the most serious would be to ban all hot looking women from being in the car with a male if they are wearing anything too revealing and doesn't cover their bodies. Too distracting!

All I can say it is about time we crack down. Never mind instead just crafting penalties for those caught using them and getting into accidents. Lets get everyone. Let the few who are dangerous ruin it for all I say.We have way to many civil liberties and rights as it is. We need to stop expecting people to be responsible for their action. Instead of punishing those that aren't more harshly I say we take away all conveniences possible for everyone. That way we are equally miserable. Nevermind an unelected body has the power to bypass our lawmakers to make law. ;)

Xygonn
12-14-2011, 09:33 AM
NTSB recommends full ban on use of cell phones while driving (http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/13/us/ntsb-cell-phone-ban/index.html)


I support this ban except for the bolded part. Not that I would obey it under all circustances. ;)

There are too many idiots who can barely drive without a cell phone in their ear.

Sounds like GM (on-star) and Microsoft (sync) have good lobbyists.

harpo1
12-14-2011, 09:40 AM
Hell if they can't enforce the existing laws in states that have cell phone restrictions how do they expect to enforce this? I agree if you ban this ban eating, drinking and talking to passengers.

124nic8
12-14-2011, 10:12 AM
Nevermind an unelected body has the power to bypass our lawmakers to make law. ;)

Nevermind that they don't. These are recommendations which have to be passed into law by the legislature to gain legal enforcement status.

horskj
12-14-2011, 06:59 PM
Sounds like GM (on-star) and Microsoft (sync) have good lobbyists.


Not nessicarily have to have on-star to have built in blue tooth. Mine runs through the stero but is synced to my cell phone.

brbubba
12-15-2011, 06:04 AM
Why shouldn't that be the case with all driving distractions? Why limit it solely to cell phone use?

Agreed, that was the obvious retort. Also my handsfree is now built into my car so I don't see how they would ever enforce that. Oh yeah, he was talking to himself so he must have been on the phone.

paperboy05
12-15-2011, 06:07 AM
Also my handsfree is now built into my car so I don't see how they would ever enforce that. Oh yeah, he was talking to himself so he must have been on the phone.
Or you could just wear a face mask, then they wouldn't even see you talking :)

bonkman
12-15-2011, 07:33 AM
Agreed, that was the obvious retort. Also my handsfree is now built into my car so I don't see how they would ever enforce that. Oh yeah, he was talking to himself so he must have been on the phone.
Odds are they wouldn't enforce it in the "pull you over" sense, but if you were pulled over for some other violation and they saw you were taking a phone call at that time, you'd be hit with a double penalty.

digitalhandle
12-15-2011, 08:40 AM
They could also review cell phone records to establish if a driver is on the phone at a given time.

(Warrant issues to get those records may be problematic.)