<strong>What is Thread Wiki?</strong>
Many of you have undoubtedly heard of <a rel="nofollow" href="http://slickdeals.net/?sduid=1&amp;sdtid=530283&amp;sdfid=2&amp;u2=http://wikipedia.org" target="_blank">Wikipedia</a> - free web based encyclopedia where all content is contributed by its members. Thread Wiki is a post in a thread right after the first post for better visibility by another thread viewer, where all content is contributed by more than one SlickDeals.net user.

<strong>How does it work?</strong>
Pretty simple, really. Members have complete freedom to <strong>Create</strong>, <strong>Contribute</strong>, <strong>Control</strong>.

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<strong>Create</strong>
When a new thread is created, the first post of the thread will contain a <a href="http://i.slickdeals.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=40585&amp;stc=1&amp;d=1180922275" target="_blank"><img style="visibility: visible;" src="http://i.slickdeals.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=40585&amp;stc=1&amp;d=1180922275" border="0" alt="" /></a> button, which you click on to create a wiki - on demand. Once a wiki is created, the second post in the thread appears, listed under the "helper" user <a href="http://forums.slickdeals.net/member.php?u=210146" target="_blank">wikipost</a> (<a href="http://forums.slickdeals.net/member.php?u=181398" target="_blank">slickalerts</a>' sister). The post will contain a pre-set brief information.

<strong>Contribute</strong>
Right after creation, the user who just clicked the button is taken to Edit mode - just as you would with a new post, and adds the information he or she believes is important for a thread. This information can be anything... information about the thread (Cliff Notes anybody?), a new price, a better price, a new rebate, a fillable rebate, a coupon... push your imagination.

<strong>Control</strong>
Okay, so someone added something, and you don't think it's valid, or you think you can do better? Do it. It's controlled by users, and as long as it's within forums rules - it can contain anything, really.

A few more things bound to be asked, a.k.a. <strong>The FAQ</strong>:

<strong>Q: Can I see previous contributions to Thread Wiki?</strong>
<strong>A</strong>: Absolutely. Just like with real Wiki, you can see every edit. Just click the <a href="http://i.slickdeals.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=40586&amp;stc=1&amp;d=1180922801" target="_blank"><img style="visibility: visible;" src="http://i.slickdeals.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=40586&amp;stc=1&amp;d=1180922801" border="0" alt="" /></a> button.

<strong>Q: Can I restore to a previous revision?</strong>
<strong>A</strong>: Yep, you sure can. When in Revisions mode, use <a href="http://i.slickdeals.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=40587&amp;stc=1&amp;d=1180922943" target="_blank"><img style="visibility: visible;" src="http://i.slickdeals.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=40587&amp;stc=1&amp;d=1180922943" border="0" alt="" /></a> button to restore to a previous version. While at it, you might as well contribute if you need it, as everything is done using a standard Edit dialog. One catch - you can't restore a current version, marked by a slightly different color and <a href="http://forums.slickdeals.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=40588&amp;d=1180923107" target="_blank"><img style="visibility: visible;" src="http://forums.slickdeals.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=40588&amp;d=1180923107" border="0" alt="" /></a> button.

<strong>Q: Can I delete a revision I <span style="text-decoration: underline;">really</span> don't like?</strong>
<strong>A</strong>: Yes.... if you are a moderator <img class="inlineimg" title="Harhar" src="http://i.slickdeals.net/images/smilies2/harhar.gif" border="0" alt="" />. You can still Mod Alert a revision if you believe it's in violation of forum guidelines, just remember to mention who made it. Remember, use Mod Alert button on a Wiki Post, as you can not modalert the actual revision from the Revisions screen.

<strong>Q: Can I rep the contributor?</strong>
<strong>A</strong>: Yes, just like with any post in forums where it is enabled, you can give reputation to a contributor. One per post (regardless of how many contribution that user has made), as usual <img class="inlineimg" title="Smilie" src="http://i.slickdeals.net/images/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" alt="" />. Although you can rep 2 or more different users who contributed to Thread Wiki.

<strong>Q: What if someone tries to add/edit a Thread Wiki when I am doing it?</strong>
<strong>A</strong>: Not to worry, since all revisions are tracked separately, the information you or ther other person adds will not vanish. So if an edit happens simultaneously, you can still add it by copying it. Once a Thread Wiki is added the button will no longer be there to add, but one can Edit the Wiki Post.

<strong>Q: Can there be more than one Thread Wiki?</strong>
<strong>A</strong>: One per thread, sorry <img class="inlineimg" title="Smilie" src="http://i.slickdeals.net/images/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" alt="" />. You are free to post under your own name, however <img class="inlineimg" title="Wink" src="http://i.slickdeals.net/images/smilies/wink.gif" border="0" alt="" />.

<strong>Q: Can I easily see what has been updated when looking at Revisions?</strong>
<strong>A</strong>: Absolutely. The new text between <span style="text-decoration: underline;">2 subsequent revisions</span> is higlighted with <em><span style="color: green;">green color and italics</span></em>. Text that has been removed is crossed out. Changes are tracked line by line. So if a line is changed, the changes will reflect that.

<strong>Q: Can anyone Create, Contribute and Control?</strong>
A: Yes, as long as you have a valid SlickDeals.net account (what? you don't have one yet? <img class="inlineimg" title="OMG" src="http://i.slickdeals.net/images/smilies/emot-eek.gif" border="0" alt="" />), which is in good standing and is not under moderation. Anyone (including anonymous users) can view the post, however, just like with any other post in the forum.

<strong>Q: What about vandalism?</strong>
A: As with real wikis, vandalism can be an issue. And just with any wikis, members can fix it without having to wait for a moderator. If you see anyone posting anything inappropriate, anything in violation of forum rules, offensive, etc - feel free to edit it out, modalert the Thread Wiki post, and mention who made the offensive edit. The moderation team will be happy to assist with this. Thanks in advance. Wannabe vandals - beware, a new warning has been added for wiki abuse. Excessive abuse will result in the removal of wiki privileges.

<strong>What is Post History?</strong>
Post history is a feature, which is shared with Thread Wiki, and allows you to view your own post history using the "Revisions" button just like you would with a Thread Wiki. The only exception is that only you can view that history, unlike with Thread Wiki, which is viewed by anyone as described above. The same rules apply, there is a Revert button, the Current Version label, and the only thing absent is obviously the Thread Wiki button, since well, it's not a Wiki. We hope you put it to good use, in case something ever happens to your own post, and you need to restore changes.

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interesting.

Bad news in my opinion. It's going to cause a lot of trouble. Tons more trouble than it's worth.

Why don't you set it up so anyone can upload videos to your site too? A la youtube. You could call it SLICKTUBE! Or TUBEDEALS!

There should be some sort of confirmation after you click the wiki link before actually making one... for people like me who accidentally click on it and probably for the people that are curious as to what it is. That page might even include a link to the OP of this thread.
I think it is weird that it subscribes you to it without asking you.

Bad news in my opinion. It's going to cause a lot of trouble. Tons more trouble than it's worth.

Why don't you set it up so anyone can upload videos to your site too? A la youtube. You could call it SLICKTUBE! Or TUBEDEALS!

that would be a great idea!! but Slicktube.com..um..not the best url dea in the world..:lmao: :lmao:
It's like wikipedia...if someone sees something offensive...another can edit it out..checks and balances my friend...:nod:

that would be a great idea!! but Slicktube.com..um..not the best url dea in the world..:lmao: :lmao:
It's like wikipedia...if someone sees something offensive...another can edit it out..checks and balances my friend...:nod:
I'm telling you. With the SD community.........it won't work.

The wikipedia community and the SD community are two entirely different things, with entirely different levels of maturity and sophistication.

There should be some sort of confirmation after you click the wiki link before actually making one... for people like me who accidentally click on it and probably for the people that are curious as to what it is. That page might even include a link to the OP of this thread.
I think it is weird that it subscribes you to it without asking you.

:lol: I was going to say that too...because even if you don't click "save changes" it creates the wiki anyway...

I'm telling you. With the SD community.........it won't work.

The wikipedia community and the SD community are two entirely different things, with entirely different levels of maturity and sophistication.
Yes, wikipedia has a higher level of maturatity than some of the loungers. :P

I'm telling you. With the SD community.........it won't work.

The wikipedia community and the SD community are two entirely different things, with entirely different levels of maturity and sophistication.

yeah you're right....I saw a wikipost when browsing through the posts made so far..and saw one that said "I'm queer" in it.. wanted to edit it out..but g.g. already got it.. :) thanks g.g!!

I'm telling you. With the SD community.........it won't work.

The wikipedia community and the SD community are two entirely different things, with entirely different levels of maturity and sophistication.

i disagree.... the only people that will bother to do it are the ones with something to contribute...it will work and I like it !

yeah you're right....I saw a wikipost when browsing through the posts made so far..and saw one that said "I'm queer" in it.. wanted to edit it out..but g.g. already got it.. :) thanks g.g!!
Exactly my point. It's just handing people "carte blanche" being in the 2nd post in a thread. And while others and mods may be there to jump on stuff quickly, there are going to be many many times where they're not going to, and things will go unnoticed. I mean, this is going to be in EVERY thread. That's a LOT of things to check.

Anyway, I'm probably just wasting my breath.

i disagree.... the only people that will bother to do it are the ones with something to contribute...it will work and I like it !
How do you like the dream world you live in? Comfy there? :lol:

Exactly my point. It's just handing people "carte blanche" being in the 2nd post in a thread. And while others and mods may be there to jump on stuff quickly, there are going to be many many times where they're not going to, and things will go unnoticed. I mean, this is going to be in EVERY thread. That's a LOT of things to check.

Anyway, I'm probably just wasting my breath.


How do you like the dream world you live in? Comfy there? :lol:

I'll bet you someone is going to be stupid and add a wiki to possibly every thread imaginable on SD..and put something stupid in it, just because they can. Like the words of Stephen Colbert "First one to edit the wikipedia page of elephants with a picture of me...(forgot the rest)"

oh..that just gave me an idea..redsolar..you did implement a limit as to how many wikis you can create in xx amount of time right? :)

I'll bet you someone is going to be stupid and add a wiki to possibly every thread imaginable on SD..and put something stupid in it, just because they can. Like the words of Stephen Colbert "First one to edit the wikipedia page of elephants with a picture of me...(forgot the rest)"
Exactly. In the world of "Jackass", many people try and 'one up' each other. It'll become a contest to see who can make the most bizarre or disgusting 2nd post.

I mean, if it's not broken, why fix it? SD was working just fine.

Exactly my point. It's just handing people "carte blanche" being in the 2nd post in a thread. And while others and mods may be there to jump on stuff quickly, there are going to be many many times where they're not going to, and things will go unnoticed. I mean, this is going to be in EVERY thread. That's a LOT of things to check.

Anyway, I'm probably just wasting my breath.


How do you like the dream world you live in? Comfy there? :lol:
You know... You can ignore the wiki person/thing. You'll never have to see any of it. :)

Wikipost is so on my ignore list.

You know... You can ignore the wiki person/thing. You'll never have to see any of it. :)
I personally don't care. I could read all kinds of gross shit, and it wouldn't bother me. I'm thinking of the other people of SD who will be offended.

Exactly. In the world of "Jackass", many people try and 'one up' each other. It'll become a contest to see who can make the most bizarre or disgusting 2nd post.

I mean, if it's not broken, why fix it? SD was working just fine.

Web 2.0...I think SD is doing a fantastic job at Web 2.0 redesigns and everything..and more features...:)

Awesome features, thanks! :worship:

It will be fascinating to see how they are absorbed into the SD culture, but they look like positive enhancements to me.

I think this will really be helpful in Tech Support when we're trying to collaborate on a standardized solution.

There should be some sort of confirmation after you click the wiki link before actually making one... for people like me who accidentally click on it and probably for the people that are curious as to what it is. That page might even include a link to the OP of this thread.
I think it is weird that it subscribes you to it without asking you.
You found a bug, which auto subscribed - fixed now :), thanks.

There is no issue to not adding anything to thread wiki, it can remain unfilled. So if you click on it on accident - oh well, it's only another post.

Can we get everything AJAX so we don't get redirect to a new page? I just want to be able to create Wiki, make the posts, and then I get redirected to the update page?

okay..question..odd question but anyway..what if you have someone on your ignore list and they post something in the wiki...do you see it or does it just not update?

okay..question..odd question but anyway..what if you have someone on your ignore list and they post something in the wiki...do you see it or does it just not update?

After experimenting, apparently we still see your revisions. I think its because we can see Wikipost's posts, despite you making the revisions. Easy way to disable Wikipost is just add IT on your ignore list.

After experimenting, apparently we still see your revisions. I think its because we can see Wikipost's posts, despite you making the revisions. Easy way to disable Wikipost is just add IT on your ignore list.

you put me on your ignore list? Why? :sadwalk:

Can we get everything AJAX so we don't get redirect to a new page? I just want to be able to create Wiki, make the posts, and then I get redirected to the update page?
The original wikipost is currently non-AJAXed. Subsequent edits are. We'll se about AJAX'ing the primary creation as well.

I've been waiting for this for awhile - mostly because of hotdeals. Say for instance, someone posts a deal, then further on in the thread someone posts the rebate forms, or a better deal, or coupons, or a clarification - without reading the ENTIRE thread, or having the OP or mod change the OP, someone would have to read through all 10,000 posts to be "up to date" on the deal. wiki is the way to go so long as it's not abused, which could very well happen in hotdeals or freebies (yes there are alot of wankers there that just rain on everyone's parade)

My only suggestion is I think you have to restrict who can make changes? Maybe based on rep, posts, etc. Just fine something that works.

My only suggestion is I think you have to restrict who can make changes? Maybe based on rep, posts, etc. Just fine something that works.
Well, here is the thing - since everyone can contribute, and change, then it will mostly be self-moderating. If a specific wiki gets abused, moderators can warn offenders and/or lock it from changes. Other than that, there does not seem to be a need to restrict it by user level.

I've been waiting for this for awhile - mostly because of hotdeals. Say for instance, someone posts a deal, then further on in the thread someone posts the rebate forms, or a better deal, or coupons, or a clarification - without reading the ENTIRE thread, or having the OP or mod change the OP, someone would have to read through all 10,000 posts to be "up to date" on the deal. wiki is the way to go so long as it's not abused, which could very well happen in hotdeals or freebies (yes there are alot of wankers there that just rain on everyone's parade)



i agree. its something new, let's try it..if it doesnt work Mr. SD knows what to do!

This is some new content in a Thread Wiki
dzap here: just trying it out :D


Ooooh, so I can add something tooz? :yahoo:
of course you can spaghetina!! :hug:

..what....no one else wants to contribute? :sadwalk:

sweet

This is Cool! -dchavoc

Yuck, I don't like the stupid Wiki thing. That's what I've always hated about Woot's forums.



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Huh?

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most excellent.

Thanks, Mods.

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gautam

This is going to lead to a heap of monster huge threads..say like "Circuit City Sunday ads" which will always be just that one thread's wiki updated each week and endless pages of jibber-jabber piled on top of each other constantly. Is that the intent?

Also, I noticed something a little odd in this thread:

http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?sduid=28946&t=530553

I created the wiki in there to list the titles for the sale. It hasn't been replied to since the wikipost still has the latest posting.

However, after I look at both pages of the thread and go back to Hot Deals, the thread still shows to me as unread "bold".

I'm telling you. With the SD community.........it won't work.

The wikipedia community and the SD community are two entirely different things, with entirely different levels of maturity and sophistication.I don't know...I've seen some pretty ,ahem, creative "edits" on quite a few of the articles, expecially ones that don't seem to get reviewed frequently...

Luckily, the articles can be locked after established repeat vandalism...

I've noticed some glitches. Sometimes threads wouldn't unbold after I read them (like some other people mentioned). I haven't noticed if that has happened again. There is another glitch where, from the main forum, it appears the thread the wiki is in was started by wikipost. I just noticed this again in Hot Deals, in the Buy.com $10 magazine thread started by Brisar. First the title of the post changed to the wiki message, then later it changed back to the real title, but both times it looked like the thread was made by wikipost.

Here are screenshots:
http://img169.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wikipostrl4.jpg

I've noticed some glitches. Sometimes threads wouldn't unbold after I read them (like some other people mentioned). I haven't noticed if that has happened again. There is another glitch where, from the main forum, it appears the thread the wiki is in was started by wikipost. I just noticed this again in Hot Deals, in the Buy.com $10 magazine thread started by Brisar. First the title of the post changed to the wiki message, then later it changed back to the real title, but both times it looked like the thread was made by wikipost.

Here are screenshots:
http://img169.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wikipostrl4.jpg
The first issue was a bug, which I fixed last night, it should not happen again (thread marked read bug).

The second was well my error - I was rearranging something :D. That should not happen unless i go to rearrange something like that again, and has been fixed too :)

I've been waiting for this for awhile - mostly because of hotdeals. Say for instance, someone posts a deal, then further on in the thread someone posts the rebate forms, or a better deal, or coupons, or a clarification - without reading the ENTIRE thread, or having the OP or mod change the OP, someone would have to read through all 10,000 posts to be "up to date" on the deal. wiki is the way to go so long as it's not abused, which could very well happen in hotdeals or freebies (yes there are alot of wankers there that just rain on everyone's parade)


I agree... a lot of the times, i have to go through over 5 pages to find attachments, rebates, etc. With wikipost, all the amended stuff will be clearly visible right underneath the original post.
Also, many times, OP creates a thread with incorrect information and never come back to check responses. So when posters ask OP to change their post, it never gets updated.

How about establishing and making more prominent a recommended, bulleted list of Hot Deal wiki contributions, to flesh out the list provided in the announcement:
Rebate form
Rebate form in fillable format
Stock status (OOS, Deal alive again, etc.)
Product specifications (if missing from OP and appropriate, or link to product specs)
Product manual link
Product review link
Link to product image
Competitive links (other places with the same product)
Vendor review links (such as Reseller Ratings)
Related thread links (Similar or previous deal threads)I was wondering if a template might be included when the wiki is established, to encourage people to fill in typically desired info.

The first issue was a bug, which I fixed last night, it should not happen again (thread marked read bug).

The second was well my error - I was rearranging something :D. That should not happen unless i go to rearrange something like that again, and has been fixed too :)
Thanks for all your hard work. I love this feature! :)

Awesome new tool!!!! :woot2:

This is great!

I personally feel that the Wiki Post is an amazing idea. Just wanted to stop in here and say Thanks and Good Job. I would almost recommend it being on by default on the Deals forum.

I don't like it. But then... there aren't many things that I do like.

SD was perfect as it was. :nod:

Technology keeps exceeding my ability, time, and resources to learn it.

Yes, wikipedia has a higher level of maturatity than some of the loungers. :P

i agree... i don't like it :nono:

Mr/Mrs. wikipost says "don't moderate me", but s/he doesn't say "don't ignore me"... which is as easy as 1, 2, 3 for anyone that doesn't like this new feature.


Just click on your User CP (upper-left)
Click Buddy/Ignore Lists (bottom-left)
Type in "wikipost" in the Ignore list box and Save.

Voila!

I just used this feature on one of the coupon threads and it's great. Now whenever someone learns of a more recent coupon code they can add it to wiki and keep it updated and convenient for everyone to see. There may be wiki-vandalism :lmao: but I think the positive benefits outweigh the negatives.

Just have to add that this idea rocks. Really useful and helpful.

While someone might do some wiki-vandalisation, a deterrent would be that it shows who last edited it. A good idea would be to nerp people who vandalises by taking away Rep points.

It may be necessary to sticky wikis, particularly in tech support.

If people are contributing to a project such "The Official Build a Computer Wiki Thread, (http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?sduid=16556&t=536014)" the thread may lose visibility because it doesn't get bumped as often to the top of a forum sorted on last posting date.

What a great idea better having good suggestions buried in the middle of a thread

Think I found a new bug, if you create a thread, a try to create a Wiki in < 20 sec, you get a wierd error, instead of the regular SD error message.

Here is the exact bug:

Array ( [0] => This forum requires that you wait 20 seconds between posts. Please try again in 8 seconds. ) err

How do you rep a person posting to the wiki? I don't see a way to do this? Can someone help me out and maybe provide screenshots?

How do you rep a person posting to the wiki? I don't see a way to do this? Can someone help me out and maybe provide screenshots?
I don't think you can except by search for one of their posts.
Check the wiki revisions to figure out which person added what you want to rep
Go to advanced search
Type the persons name in the user name section.
Search the deal forums.
Sort by posts.
Click search and that will bring you to a list of their recent posts and you can rep one of those.

Click on revisions and then click on the reputation http://i.slickdeals.net/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif

Click on revisions and then click on the reputation http://i.slickdeals.net/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif (http://i.slickdeals.net/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
A reply from the man himself! I am honored! I see it now, thanks. :worthy:

Wow, I didn't know that we had a thread for this!

I'm looking to a FAQ/sticky on how rep affects you. Like why are some people bold, italic - and how much rep do you need to get 400 ignored threads, etc.

I'm looking to a FAQ/sticky on how rep affects you. Like why are some people bold, italic - and how much rep do you need to get 400 ignored threads, etc.


The SD FAQ Megathread (http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?sduid=81227&t=511057) sticky in Site Issues & Suggestions has most of the information that you're looking for regarding reps. :)

As to how many you need to have to get 400 ignore threads, I believe that you have to have 100 reps.

Is this a custom modification for slickdeals? I'd really like to have this "thread wiki" feature on my vbulletin site.

I love this thread!! I started CVSing about 3 months ago, but I have a question. How the heck do you get to the Wiki?????? :confused:

I love this thread!! I started CVSing about 3 months ago, but I have a question. How the heck do you get to the Wiki?????? :confused:

:secret:If you're talking about how to create a Wiki, check the first post (http://forums.slickdeals.net/showpost.php?p=6790914&postcount=1) in this very thread :).

And welcome to SD! :hug:

When a Wiki is updated, do the people subscribed to the thread get an email notification? Does the post get bumped up to the top again?

When a Wiki is updated, do the people subscribed to the thread get an email notification? Does the post get bumped up to the top again?
Editing the wiki doesn't bump the thread, nor does it trigger an email notification.

Editing the wiki doesn't bump the thread, nor does it trigger an email notification.
It will, however, subscribe you to the thread if you have auto-subscribe on and you edit the wiki.

hi, everyone, it's going well. thank you

very nice

I'm so lost is there a wiki link?

thanks for the info

can't figure out how to edit wiki :(

can't figure out how to edit wiki :(
Which part do you need help with? Where are you stuck?

You did Great on Directions for the thread Wiki!!!!
GOOD JOB!!!!:) :)

Ignore... wrong thread...

Wouldn't it be nice to be a winner

Never posted before. Hope this gets in to enter me.

I hope I win..................pick me pick me:nod:

Wouldn't it be nice to be a winner

Never posted before. Hope this gets in to enter me.

I hope I win..................pick me pick me:nod:

This is not the contest thread.

i hope i win

i hope i win i hope i win

hope i win

Good Luck to everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:nod:

Im looking forward to using this site.

wow, great guide..helped alot

where is the wiki revision button?

wrong thread