Hello everyone,

Over the course of the next few days we will be gradually rolling out a new feature, called Forum Archive.

It's no secret that the SlickDeals.net forums have grown very large and will continue to grow. Every once in a while our servers knock on our door and say "We want a vacation." So, we are going to give them a vacation, and maybe a bonus or something (but don't tell them, it'll be a surprise).

What it means for you as users?

There will be 2 sites which when combined together will contain the whole forums as you came to know them. The link for current forums will not be changing, it will stay <a href="http://forums.slickdeals.net/" target="_blank">http://forums.slickdeals.net</a>. The Archive will be accessible through <a href="http://archive.slickdeals.net/" target="_blank">http://archive.slickdeals.net</a> and will largely look identical to the current forums, except it will be read-only.

Here is a brief Q&amp;A on what will be different, and how things will work.

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<em>Q: What will be archived?</em>
A: Only threads, and their respective posts, and post edit histories, including wiki post information

<em>Q: What will determine which threads/posts are archived?</em>
A: All threads which have been dormant (i.e. had no activity/posts) for at least 180 days will be archived

<em>Q: Why is this happening?</em>
A: To reduce the load on the servers and provide everyone with smoother forum experience (faster loading times, browsing, changing pages, etc)

<em>Q: What is the expected time of completion?</em>
A: Within the next 1-2 weeks

<em>Q: Are there any exceptions?</em>
A: Yes, there will be exceptions. "Stickies", and select other threads (see below) will not be archived, at least for some time.

<em>Q: Will I be able to post in archive?</em>
A: No, it will be read-only

<em>Q: What will be shared between archive and live sites?</em>
A: Just about everything else other than threads and posts (and related content, such as search) is identical between live site and archive. That means while browsing the archive site, you will still get notifications about private messages, etc.

<em>Q: Will most functions work in archive?</em>
A: That depends. Since archive is read only any changes, or new items will have to be done through the live site. This includes PMs, calendar, changing signatures, user titles, etc. Most of the links visible on archive that are responsible for this activity will take you to the live site from archive. You will not be able to create any new content or make changes to your user information, profiles, etc. in archive itself, since it's read only.

<em>Q: Will I be able to search archive?</em>
A: Yes, the search system will remain the same as on the Live Site. You will also be able to search Archive directly from live site using <a href="http://forums.slickdeals.net/search.php" target="_blank">Advanced Search</a>, and choose the Archive radio button in the bottom section (currently not visible to users).

<em>Q: Will Front Page be archived?</em>
A: No, it will not. The threads which some front page posts are linked to, however, will be, but the links will still function.

<em>Q: Will the old links to threads and posts work?</em>
A: Yes, all links will be automatically redirected to forum archive, it will be transparent to the user who clicks a link, whether the thread is still in live site, or has been archived. The inverse is also true - links to threads in the archive which are still in the live site will be correctly directed to live site.

<em>Q: What to expect during rollout?</em>
A: If you click on a link to a thread or posts which has been archived during the transition period, you should be transferred to archive, and you will receive a brief message while this is occuring. The rest of the forum operation should remain unchanged.
Some search functionality may be temporarily unavailable for threads and posts which have been archived. All the recent threads and posts (within the 6-month window from the time of last post in a thread) will be fully searchable, accessible and will not be affected otherwise.

<em>Q: What is expected from users?</em>
A: If you know of a thread which may have been inactive for over 6 months, and is not a sticky, and there is a compelling reason to not archive it, please post a <strong>link to the thread and reason why it should not be archived</strong>. Moderators will review them and mark the threads as non-archivable so that they are not moved.

<em>Q: I realized that a thread which really shouldn't have been archived has been archived - who do I contact for help?</em>
A: Contact one (or all) of the administrators of the site: <a href="http://forums.slickdeals.net/private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=1" target="_blank">slickdeals</a>, <a href="http://forums.slickdeals.net/private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=20704" target="_blank">bryantq</a> or <a href="http://forums.slickdeals.net/private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=404" target="_blank">redsolar</a>.

<em>Q: Will there be any downtime to the forums or front page?</em>
A: Yes, after the threads are moved we will need to turn the forums off for a brief period of time, which will be announced later, to performe some necessary maintenance, for approximately 1 hour. Front page will also be affected. This will happen during a dark night time, when most users are seeing their best dreams <img class="inlineimg" title="Stick Out Tongue" src="http://i.slickdeals.net/images/smilies/tongue.gif" border="0" alt="" />.

Beyond that, everything should be as normal.

Of course, if you notice odd things happening, let us know <img class="inlineimg" title="Smilie" src="http://i.slickdeals.net/images/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" alt="" />

Thanks for your help and patience during the transition.

I guess we can kiss bumping the oldies but goodies goodbye. :sadwalk:

I guess we can kiss bumping the oldies but goodies goodbye. :sadwalk:

Only 175 more days until the biggest zit thread is gone forever. :evillaf:

Only threads that have been dormant (i.e. not posted in for the past 6 months) will be affected :). If a thread is bumped, it won't be archived.

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sounds good

Sounds ok to me, but how will this affect reposts, especially in Freebies, etc? The rule right now is to bump older posts, if it's the same same offer/url/etc. But what if the original post and its replies are older than 180 days and it's archived? How are we to bump that or will the repost rules have to change again?

For reposts in Freebies, as long as both the original and the new the threads are still on the live site, it will be merged. Don't forget that the threads are moved based on activity and not the thread start date.

Sounds ok to me, but how will this affect reposts, especially in Freebies, etc? The rule right now is to bump older posts, if it's the same same offer/url/etc. But what if the original post and its replies are older than 180 days and it's archived? How are we to bump that or will the repost rules have to change again?
I was wondering the same thing:confused:

For reposts in Freebies, as long as both the original and the new the threads are still on the live site, it will be merged. Don't forget that the threads are moved based on activity and not the thread start date.

But if there is no activity in a thread for 180 days, then the repost rule is affected.
The current rule is no reposts at all. This would make all reposts ok, if the original thread has not been posted in within the 180 days.
So are the rules now no reposts if the original thread has not been posted in in the past 180 days.:confused:
This is very confusing when it comes to the reposting. Otherwise anything that improves the site is a great idea.:nod:

The rules will be adjusted accordingly, but as long as the thread has been moved to archive (and not just dormant for 180 days or more) it may be posted again.

slickdeals will be down for a whole hour...nooo!!! :whee: :blowup: Haha..kidding..I can't imagine the server costs you guys accumulate to keep this site up&running...anyway will look forward to it :)

So does this hopefully mean that there will be less lagging on the live site? I would guess one of the reasons this is being implemented is because of the periods of slowness/lagging that ocassionally happen?

How will personal "stickies" be affected by the archiving? I have a few old threads stickied for reference purposes, will they stay stickied and link to the archive or should I figure out another way to keep these handy?

The rules will be adjusted accordingly, but as long as the thread has been moved to archive (and not just dormant for 180 days or more) it may be posted again.

Cool thanks for the clarification. :)

How will personal "stickies" be affected by the archiving? I have a few old threads stickied for reference purposes, will they stay stickied and link to the archive or should I figure out another way to keep these handy?
If a thread is a personal sticky, it will be also shown as personal sticky in archive when it is archived. You (and other users) will be able to sticky/unsticky threads there. If you have it currently bookmarked using a forums.slickdeals.net address, you will still be able to get to it when you need to, even if it's archived, the forum software will redirect you there. You will not however see them in the live site anymore once they are archived.

I think the logic should be diff in the "deals" forums than it is in the "Support" forums, including podium, lounge, tech support. Those threads are referenced often and are often useful for more than 180 days or need to be updated. I often bump threads that are over 180 days old if they are relevent.

I think for those forums a full year would make more sense, or even a year and a half. In the hot deals, the volume is so great, I can easily see 180 days. Plus, that's your greatest volume of posts anyway.. in the deals section.

I would really like it if the search function searched BOTH the live and archived forums simultaneously without having to go into advanced search. Or perhaps you can make this one of the preferences (to have live only or live + archive searched).

Sometimes I see a deal that looks good to me, but I'm not sure so I search to see what deals have been posted for the item in the past. Sometimes the last deal is more than six months old, but it's still very helpful in determining the slickness of a current deal.

I would hate to have to do a second search every time I couldn't find enough useful information in the live forum search results.

There are a number of other reasons why I would like my searches to search in both the live and archive forums. Becaue of the way I personally use SD if simultaneous search was not an option I would consider it a major downgrade and the site would lose a fair amount of usefulness and a lot of usability.

Only threads that have been dormant (i.e. not posted in for the past 6 months) will be affected :). If a thread is bumped, it won't be archived.

What is to stop people from harvesting things from the archives and reposting them as new deals? This started quite a problem when we temporarily went to the six month repost rule and I personally would not like to see it happen again.

What is to stop people from harvesting things from the archives and reposting them as new deals? This started quite a problem when we temporarily went to the six month repost rule and I personally would not like to see it happen again.
One could bump a thread to prevent it from being archived if the freebie offer is still valid

I think what she means is some people used to wait until a thread had been posted for 6 months and 1 day and then repost the thread just so they could get the reps.

I think what she means is some people used to wait until a thread had been posted for 6 months and 1 day and then repost the thread just so they could get the reps.
Yep, I figured that that's the situation that's being brought up. The rule would still be in effect, unless the thread has been archived, which can be prevented by bumping a thread before 6 months have passed. If the thread itself is simply 6-months old but is accessible, reposting it would still be considered a repost.

I posted this in suggestions, but really this is an error (IMO) with new archiving system. Look under user profile, and look at number of sweeps a person posted. It now only recognizes, non archived contests. Thats a real discredit toward are hard workers. It should always keep track of the total number, NOT just those outside the archive. I now have 50 contests posted, instead of getting credit for well over 200 of them I have posted.

I guess we can kiss bumping the oldies but goodies goodbye. :sadwalk:As an oldie, the thought of not getting kissed or bumped anymore makes me :sadwalk:

;)

*sigh*

When I do a search and the thread has been archived, it won't find the post.


Q: Will I be able to search archive?
A: Yes, the search system will remain the same as on the Live Site. You will also be able to search Archive directly from live site using Advanced Search, and choose the Archive radio button in the bottom section (currently not visible to users).

When will this be visible to us so that we can search within?


Have it now, thanks. :thumbup: