Ever had a failure on your system? Let's end this arguing with a POLL!

Failure rate stats as of 7/22/08

UPDATED FAILURE RATES:

Wii - 9%
PS3 - 6%
XBOX - 57%

I had a 360 last year that broke so I voted for that option, but I also currently own a PS3 that I bought in Nov. and it has been great so far.

Also, my new PC has been running like a champ and the video card carries a lifetime warranty. I know this is a topic about consoles, but when it comes to reliability, a well built PC will be solid for years to come.

I take good care of all my consoles, and never had one fail before...

Got the RROD on my first 360 console, but nothing yet on my second one (been using it for over a year now). Both Wii and PS3 have been good to me so far.

Good on all fronts.

Got the RROD on my first 360 console, but nothing yet on my second one (been using it for over a year now). Both Wii and PS3 have been good to me so far.

all three? you lucky motha... :)

all my systems have been pretty good, except my 360 ive never had a system that was so unreliable. especially from a major corp such as microsoft, who pride themselves on effiency

So far,

PS3 has a 1/14 ratio ( 7% )
X360 has 8/11 ( 72% )
Wii has 1/12 ratio ( 8% )

:scratch: does that tell us something so far :D

all three? you lucky motha... :)
Yeah, I consider myself spoiled even though I bought all of them myself :lol:

I've had all 3 systems since launch.

Wii = Never broken *knocks on wood*
360 = RRoD on me twice.
PS3 = Never broken *knocks on wood*

From my Sega Master System to my Wii, I've never had a system go completely haywire on me [have there been times when it was I would wanted to break the system in two? Well, sure, but that's more along the lines of "I can't beat this damned level!"... luckily, only my controllers have beared the brunt of that annoyance... poor controllers, poor, poor controllers...]

You should've made this poll public to see that there are no fanboys on eaither sides padding the votes

You should've made this poll public to see that there are no fanboys on eaither sides padding the votes

LOL.... i was just thinking the same thing.

PS3, Wii, and 360 have all worked fine with no prob. however my nephews 360 did rrod on him but microsoft had him a new one pretty quickly. im typing from my phone so can't take part in the poll till later tonight.

All 3, no problems yet. Although, Wii hasn't been played much and 360 hardly ever.

Two 360s and a Wii and not one broke yet. Still considering a PS3...

One thing I will say about the wii though, while it hasn't crapped out on me, I do get a lot of disc read errors. Usually I just eject the disc pop it back in and it works fine. I'm contemplating whether or not to send it in. It kinda reminds me of the NES back in the day where you had to blow on the cartridge.

You should've made this poll public to see that there are no fanboys on eaither sides padding the votes

:confused: It is public. click on the results to see.

LOL.... i was just thinking the same thing.

It is public!

Only Steven_Mckenz has a PS3 that has broken and a perfect X360 :D

I have yet to have any of my consoles to every fail on me.

Owned about everything since the Atari 2600 except a TG16 and PS3.

You should've made this poll public to see that there are no fanboys on eaither sides padding the votes

Was thinking the same thing as well.

And para... by "public" he means that the names of the users who voted are displayed under each option. That way you can make sure that fanboys aren't padding stats.

Was thinking the same thing as well.

And para... by "public" he means that the names of the users who voted are displayed under each option. That way you can make sure that fanboys aren't padding stats.

Click the number on the votes, it'll show you who voted on what ;)

Click the number on the votes, it'll show you who voted on what ;)

wow, im retarded

I didn't see that you could vote for more than one option.

Was thinking the same thing as well.

And para... by "public" he means that the names of the users who voted are displayed under each option. That way you can make sure that fanboys aren't padding stats.

:sigh: It is public!!

Click on the results. They are in blue and underlined. It will show you who voted for each option.

I "only" have a PS3 ....have it since launch day. It freezes once in a while (I'll say less than once a month) but otherwise, it work great.

I didn't know you could choose more than one choice. How do you do that now, after the fact? I didn't put in my Wii vote.

I too am retarded.

Well.. there's definitely some overlap among other consoles to broken xboxes. Not necessarily saying that they are bogus entries, but I'd guess that there are at least a few.

Just a Wii... no problems.

My PS1 is still rocking along too ;)

:confused: It is public. click on the results to see.



It is public!

Only Steven_Mckenz has a PS3 that has broken and a perfect X360 :D
Actually, I've had TWO broken PS3s, and a perfect 360. I guess I'm outside of the realm of the norm :P.

Actually, I've had TWO broken PS3s, and a perfect 360. I guess I'm outside of the realm of the norm :P.

That sucks!

I broke a PS2 but it was because I dropped it down a flight of stairs while moving :D

I didn't know you could choose more than one choice. How do you do that now, after the fact? I didn't put in my Wii vote.

You can't, afterwords. you get one shot. If it was important to you you could ask a mod to add a vote for you.

You know the difference becuase multiple choice polls have checkboxes whereas single choice polls have radio buttons.

That sucks!

I broke a PS2 but it was because I dropped it down a flight of stairs while moving :D



You can't, afterwords. you get one shot. If it was important to you you could ask a mod to add a vote for you.

You know the difference becuase multiple choice polls have checkboxes whereas single choice polls have radio buttons.

hmm, i coulda swore it had radio buttons when i voted. oh well, i guess im just out if it today.

Actually, I've had TWO broken PS3s, and a perfect 360. I guess I'm outside of the realm of the norm :P.

Wait a second. You got them new or used? And if you got them new, why not use the warranty?

Do systems really fry? I thought my mom used that as an excuse to stop me from playing too much video games.

Anyways...the only system I think might of fried was my Atari system from way back when I was 2 or 3 years old. I was gaming when I was still in my diapers :lol:. I was too young to remember but one day the system was gone :mad:. All I can remember was my mom telling me it "fried/broke" because my brother and I played it too much...to this day I dont know where my Atari is :( all I know was that it was a piece of wood with lots of switches sticking out of it. I still have my Nintendo though in original box in working condition :nod:.

have the wii (hardly play it) no problems.

had my x360 for a year and three months before the dreaded RROD. I should be getting it back on 4/2 and I can't wait!

PS3 coming soon! :woot:

New Stats for our informal failure rate poll:

WII - 8%
Xbox - 58%
PS3 - 9%

New Stats for our informal failure rate poll:

WII - 8%
Xbox - 58%
PS3 - 9%

Pretty close at this point. :lol:

So I deHDD'd my PS3 and lo and behold the drive contains nothing readable to any program I tried. Nothing at all. It is all a free partition.

Everything told me no. Piece of trash. Well, I figured that maybe it was in need a of a good washing and maybe that would make the datums appear. When it is done drying off I will try it again.

Wow, the PS3 community here has really grown. Over half the respondents have purchased a PS3. I remember when there were only a handful.

jr_, I've always wondered if the 2.5" internal HDD in the PS3 could be read by a PC. Figures it wouldn't be, since that would expose the system files (and thus expose them to hacking). The situation then is a lot like the hard drive on the Xbox1 which used some wacky FATX file system or some such. Hackers had to crack the filesystem and create custom programs to read and back up the Xbox1 hard drive from PC. I'd imagine it'll have to be the same way with the PS3, except the PS3 is a lot harder to crack than any console before it.

Wow, the PS3 community here has really grown. Over half the respondents have purchased a PS3. I remember when there were only a handful.



What surprises me is not just that, but the fact that More PS3 users have voted than Wii or 360 users
I tought that the Wii and the 360 were grossly outselling the PS3 ;)

Seems like SDers know better

Worldwide, the 360 hasn't outsold the PS3 in a long time. In the U.S., I think the 360 might have only outsold the PS3 a couple weeks this year. Things have really turned the corner and the outlook for the 360 looks grimmer and grimmer. In Europe, the 360 cut its price but still couldn't outsell the PS3 for even a week, not even in the U.K. A few more weeks of this and Microsoft will have to announce U.S. pricecuts before it loses any momentum it still has left.

What surprises me is not just that, but the fact that More PS3 users have voted than Wii or 360 users
I tought that the Wii and the 360 were grossly outselling the PS3 ;)

Seems like SDers know better

that or some ppl with broken 360's didn't vote

I think people without problems would be more likely not to vote.

I think the main reason why they fail is because of overheating issues. Just to be safe you should get a Xbox 360 Cooling fan (http://www.hardwarecooling.com/product_info.php/prod/839/Xbox_360_Xfan_Cooling_Fan). It is a small investment to pay to protect your xbox 360.

I think the main reason why they fail is because of overheating issues. Just to be safe you should get a Xbox 360 Cooling fan (http://www.hardwarecooling.com/product_info.php/prod/839/Xbox_360_Xfan_Cooling_Fan). It is a small investment to pay to protect your xbox 360.

terrible idea for many reasons, those usually do more harm than good. Never feed off your console's power supply post AC to DC conversion.

Wait a second. You got them new or used? And if you got them new, why not use the warranty?
I got them new. Who said I didn't use the warranty? :scratchh:

I got them new. Who said I didn't use the warranty? :scratchh:

Seemed odd that you had two of the same console, that's all. I assumed you got the second because the first crapped out.

Seemed odd that you had two of the same console, that's all. I assumed you got the second because the first crapped out.
I got one. It crapped out on me. I sent it in under warranty and got a replacement. The replacement I got was busted when I received it. So I sent it in and got my third, which works fine (somewhat).

Define somewhat?

Wow, the PS3 community here has really grown. Over half the respondents have purchased a PS3. I remember when there were only a handful.


I agree, this has become a large PS3 community here. And the X360 community definitely is larger still.

I got one. It crapped out on me. I sent it in under warranty and got a replacement. The replacement I got was busted when I received it. So I sent it in and got my third, which works fine (somewhat).

That sucks. Were they the same model or did they replace it with a different one? I wonder if one model is more likely to break than another? The 40gb are supposed to have the smallest, coolest parts from what I understand. I don't know if that means they are more reliable though.

That sucks. Were they the same model or did they replace it with a different one? I wonder if one model is more likely to break than another? The 40gb are supposed to have the smallest, coolest parts from what I understand. I don't know if that means they are more reliable though.
It was a 60GB'er that I bought at launch. I didn't open it for a month and a half (was going to resell it), and finally caved and opened it. The optical drive (or HDD, it was hard to tell) was shot on it, as it would take 5-10 minutes to load the games I had, both on disc and on the hard drive.

I called and got it exchanged with a new one, which turned out to be cracked upon arrival. I didn't want to deal with a cracked console, so I called them, sent it back, and got a new one.

The new one I got works great, except for the fan speed controller on it. When it warms up, the fan speed kicks in and it gets louder (normal). But then it stays at that speed and volume all the way until I turn it off. It's some what annoying, but I'll just swap it out this November when my 2-year extended warranty runs out.

Now, I'm not saying this to be a PS3-hater. I LOVE my PS3! I've had PlayStations since the PS1 back in 3rd grade. I'm just pointing out that there ARE some people that have had broken PS3s before (myself included). Do I hate Sony for it? No, I'm just really unlucky. :lol: But broken consoles ARE possible for any console you look at.

It was a 60GB'er that I bought at launch. I didn't open it for a month and a half (was going to resell it), and finally caved and opened it. The optical drive (or HDD, it was hard to tell) was shot on it, as it would take 5-10 minutes to load the games I had, both on disc and on the hard drive.

I called and got it exchanged with a new one, which turned out to be cracked upon arrival. I didn't want to deal with a cracked console, so I called them, sent it back, and got a new one.

The new one I got works great, except for the fan speed controller on it. When it warms up, the fan speed kicks in and it gets louder (normal). But then it stays at that speed and volume all the way until I turn it off. It's some what annoying, but I'll just swap it out this November when my 2-year extended warranty runs out.

Now, I'm not saying this to be a PS3-hater. I LOVE my PS3! I've had PlayStations since the PS1 back in 3rd grade. I'm just pointing out that there ARE some people that have had broken PS3s before (myself included). Do I hate Sony for it? No, I'm just really unlucky. :lol: But broken consoles ARE possible for any console you look at.

Definitely, if it happens, it happens. No one need to look at people under a microscope when they are unlucky with a console branded as reliable. I mean, Toyotas are reliable right? But I'm sure there are people who had it break down the first year. ^^

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Are there really more 360 owners here that have had a console break than have not? That just seems to be an overwhelming number of people with broken systems....

There should be some sort of verification that people have to post to show that they had a broken 360...

I have a feeling there may be some PS3 fanboys in that list and/or people who *KNOW* people that have had the RRoD

There should be some sort of verification that people have to post to show that they had a broken 360...

I have a feeling there may be some PS3 fanboys in that list and/or people who *KNOW* people that have had the RRoD

maybe. but not enough to make up for that difference.

You can click on the results and see exactly who voted each way.

I made an interesting list of caparisons:

wii + broken 360
Ramen

ps3 + broken 360
amakelky
george2gfm
jhawk22
moacsupreme
skyghene
stars fan

wii + ps3 + broken 360
aggs23
DaHitman
munkyNUT
noother84
somecreepyoldgu
suki03
Tobascojapan
zmarko

It's a little odd that 14 out of the 34 people with broken 360s have either all three consoles or have a PS3 and a 360...

EDIT: more data

wii + good 360
Dessy
jkeyes0
Loriski
MrTimmay
my2k2zx2
Scratchy
ShaneS429
steven_mckenz
TqG317
w3kn
yield2ten

PS3 + good 360

PS3 + wii + good 360
dgeneral2002
highfloydelity
Neo42
t1mmy

So.. not a single person has a working PS3 and 360 (0%), without owning all 3 consoles... yet 50% of the people with broken 360s also had PS3s....

That's odd.

There should be some sort of verification that people have to post to show that they had a broken 360...

I have a feeling there may be some PS3 fanboys in that list and/or people who *KNOW* people that have had the RRoD

Then we would need verification that people had a broken PS3 or Wii as well, right? Otherwise only votes for broken 360's would be limited and that would obviously mess up the results. Some people would either not know how to prove it or not care enough to go through the trouble.

I made an interesting list of caparisons:

wii + broken 360
Ramen

ps3 + broken 360
amakelky
george2gfm
jhawk22
moacsupreme
skyghene
stars fan

wii + ps3 + broken 360
aggs23
DaHitman
munkyNUT
noother84
somecreepyoldgu
suki03
Tobascojapan
zmarko

It's a little odd that 14 out of the 34 people with broken 360s have either all three consoles or have a PS3 and a 360...

EDIT: more data

wii + good 360
Dessy
jkeyes0
Loriski
MrTimmay
my2k2zx2
Scratchy
ShaneS429
steven_mckenz
TqG317
w3kn
yield2ten

PS3 + good 360

PS3 + wii + good 360
dgeneral2002
highfloydelity
Neo42
t1mmy

So.. not a single person has a working PS3 and 360 (0%), without owning all 3 consoles... yet 50% of the people with broken 360s also had PS3s....

That's odd.

Odd indeed. So if we assume that every multiple console owner that reported a broken 360 was lying and excluded them, there would be 24 with good Xbox 360s and 20 with broken ones.... That would cut it down to 45%.

It's a little odd that 14 out of the 34 people with broken 360s have either all three consoles or have a PS3 and a 360...



So.. not a single person has a working PS3 and 360 (0%), without owning all 3 consoles... yet 50% of the people with broken 360s also had PS3s....

That's odd.

Why is it odd?

Here's my timeline:

May 07: Bought 360 and had a blast playing it until...

June 07: Noticed freezing on a certain part of R6:Vegas, but chalked it up to a disc problem and did nothing about it. No red lights, just freezing and having to reset it.

July 07: I heard that 360's were known for overheating. I tried aiming a large box fan to feed the side vents more air and this seemed to help with the freezing problems.

August 07: Got the infamous RRoD and poked around online for more information. I knew an electrical tech at my work who used to work for an electronics repair shop. I took my 360 to them and they gave me a breakdown of the problem, possible causes, and likelihood of it happening again.

September 07: I was out of warranty(broken seal) so I decided to cut my losses and I sold my power brick, hard drive, controller, and broken console on ebay and got $200 for it all.

November 07: I heard about R&C coming for PS3, the $100 Sony card deal, and had been wanting a Blu-Ray drive, so I bought a PS3 and have been enjoying that ever since.


So the point of this whole drawn out post, is that it's not "odd" at all that someone like me converted from once owning a 360 to now owning a PS3. I thought about simply buying another 360 but reliability is important and when I pay $400 for a console, I want it to work and work well for at least 3 years, not 3 months. You may think I'm a sony fanboy or MS hater or whatever you wish to label me, but I've stated many times here that I thought and still think the 360 is a better gaming console, when it worked. I also have stated that I think the PS3 is a much better value and have used it much more than my 360 and prefer its versatility over the now seemingly slighter advantage that the 360 has in the gaming department.

I once owned a 360, it broke, so I bought a PS3. I know many others that have done the same. It's not odd, and is actually more common than you may be willing to admit.

I'm convinced.

cuz people vote for each one...which makes this whole poll invalid

cuz people vote for each one...which makes this whole poll invalid

Huh??

My timeline - I got the wii christmas of 2006, got the PS3 09/07, got the 360 christmas of 2007 - RROD after a day and got it returned in 3 weeks and no problem since then.

Most people's secondary console is the wii - usually people have PS3/wii, or 360/wii, or 3 consoles. People who had the 360 RROD on them sometimes get a PS3 afterwords, and it seems logical to me.

Bought my original 360 on launch and it lasted me all the way until December when it got the RROD. I thought I was lucky to have it as long as I did without any problems, especially knowing that everyone else and their mother (literally, my mom bought one and it instantly RROD on her, she took it back and got a new one) has had them fail, RROD or other problems.

I have a newer one that Microsoft gave me in place of my older one and it has worked great since I got it a couple months ago, but ever since I got the RROD, I haven't really played it that much.

I bought a PS3 earlier this month and so far so good. In comparison I still like XBL and the 360 controller better, but I can't really complain about free online with the PS3. I'm just waiting for Home, LBP, MGS4, FFXIII, etc. to come out!

lots of specific details here :D

im not in it! PS3 and Wii owner, both working fine (i think the wii's working fine, i only played it 15 mins when brawl released few weeks back).
But i did have a P4 Prescott totally burn out on me...does that count?

I totally get the concept of "after my 360 fried I got the other top of the line console" and that does make sense. I just find it odd that there isn't *one* person who just has a working PS3 and 360. They either have all 3, or if they have both, the 360 is dead.

And no, I'm not saying the poll is invalidated at all.. but I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if some people voted against the 360, either by just voting a dead 360, or by voting working wii/PS3, dead 360.

I totally get the concept of "after my 360 fried I got the other top of the line console" and that does make sense. I just find it odd that there isn't *one* person who just has a working PS3 and 360. They either have all 3, or if they have both, the 360 is dead.

And no, I'm not saying the poll is invalidated at all.. but I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if some people voted against the 360, either by just voting a dead 360, or by voting working wii/PS3, dead 360.

Obviously you'd need evidence of dead 360's to truly validate the results, but then again, wouldn't that go for any poll? There is always an inherent inaccuracy since the results are at the mercy of the voter's honesty.

I don't have much proof personally, aside from my photos I took of the parts to sell on ebay. Or you could try to search and find some of my older posts when I first registered explaing my situation(unless you think I was a Sony spy all along sent here to fabricate an elaborate story on how my 360 broke.)

I totally get the concept of "after my 360 fried I got the other top of the line console" and that does make sense. I just find it odd that there isn't *one* person who just has a working PS3 and 360. They either have all 3, or if they have both, the 360 is dead.

And no, I'm not saying the poll is invalidated at all.. but I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if some people voted against the 360, either by just voting a dead 360, or by voting working wii/PS3, dead 360.

To be fair, it definitely isn't a "scientific" poll by any means. But even if the results are way off (margin of error 50%?), it still says something about the reliability of various systems.

Xbx360 seems like a great system, I don't have one, but If I had moer $$ I probably would buy one. It does have some reliability issues. i have Rock band, and I love Rock Band, but guess what, teh guitar and drums have reliability issues also. I still love it though :D

I totally get the concept of "after my 360 fried I got the other top of the line console" and that does make sense. I just find it odd that there isn't *one* person who just has a working PS3 and 360. They either have all 3, or if they have both, the 360 is dead.

And no, I'm not saying the poll is invalidated at all.. but I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if some people voted against the 360, either by just voting a dead 360, or by voting working wii/PS3, dead 360.

My 360 works now (Microsoft sent me a new one), but when I got the RROD that basically was the deciding factor into getting a PS3 for me.

:bump:

how do you break a system? lol

I dropped a PS2 down a flight of stairs once when moving. THat did it. It slid off the top of the box.

I won't do that again :D

Maybe this poll needs a part 2 asking people which system they got first, second and possibly third to see if there is a trend.

:bump:

It's crazy how some people are sooo devoted to micro$oft that they are willing to put up with RROD over and over again...

UPDATED FAILURE RATES:

Wii - 9%
PS3 - 6%
XBOX - 57% :bigeye:

only gaming system i have ever had a failure with was a PC

UPDATED FAILURE RATES:

Wii - 9%
PS3 - 6%
XBOX - 57% :bigeye:



yeah because this is TOTALLY A RELIABLE POLL :rolleyes:

yeah because this is TOTALLY A RELIABLE POLL :rolleyes:


i said before it wasn't reliable.

however, even anecdotally, even if the numbers are way off, it's hard to compare 50+ % for one system to < 10% for the other systems.

:bump: re: failure rate question someone had

My wii and PS3 have worked fine so far, but I've had the Wii longer.