EDIT:Many people think I am saying that you cannot say anything negative about a deal. That just isn't the case. For example, we had one person in a Dell thread yesterday only say "The 600M sucks!" That's threadcrapping and contributes nothing to the thread. The way you would state it to stay in line with forum etiquette would be "I bought the 600M. I find the weight to be a little too heavy for my use. So, I returned it for the 700M. I also had the XGA screen. I didn't like the lower resolution. So, I returned it in favor of the 700M. I also prefer the Trulife screen on the 700M. Here are some other user reviews from CNET: blah blah blah" That is input that other members can take into consideration because you are leaving interpretation up to the user/member. They then can decide if they like the 700M or the 600M. Just posting "This deal sucks!" or "The 600M sucks!" is threadcrapping and I think people will now start to get on members that post in that way.

One of the biggest things that scares new deal posters away is the fear of getting flamed after posting a deal. I have received many positive comments and PMs about mine and Elmer's anti-threadcrapping campaign and signatures.

It ticks me off when you have someone trying to help out by posting a deal and some a$$ coming in to the thread and contributing absolutely nothing other than yelling "THIS DEAL SUCKS".

I say the rule should be that if you have nothing to contribute to the thread, STAY OUT!! If you have a better deal, POST IT!! But, let the readers and members decide for themselves if it is a good deal. Some deals are awesome to one person and not to another. Let the individual decide!!

For example, I posted a deal back about 2 months ago for a free Nokia 6820 if you extend your contract a year. For me and many others, that was a smoking deal. I was about to pay $199 for that phone a month before. So, it saved me money. But, I still got people just posting crap like "AT&T Sucks" or "Nokia phones Suck!" I chased them off pretty quick because a lot of people liked that deal.

Any comments??

Absolutely!

The worst example of this was when someone posted a Dell deal ahead of time, and was flamed and insulted because it wasn't working yet, even though he stated quite clearly that it was being put up ahead of time! The guy said it was the last time he'd post a deal.....

People even threadcrapped the Holy Grail of deals, the $750 off Dell coupon!!!

I come here to find deals. Not to listen to some idiot's opinion of the product, or to hear about his idea of a better deal, even though it's not the same product. Post a deal about a MP3 player, and 15 people will post, "get an IPOD". Many of the threads end up being mostly threadcraps! I don't post deals that I find, because I don't feel like listening to the crappers.

Mr. SD, can't you tighten up the rules? The site would end up a better and more useful place.....

IMHO, ignore the TC'ers, hopefully they'll mature with experience.

mod alert posts which are just this deal sucks and no backing it up. i think people who back up the statements are fine.

IMHO, ignore the TC'ers, hopefully they'll mature with experience.
If people are not posting deals because of the TC'ers, we're all losing......

mod alert posts which are just this deal sucks and no backing it up. i think people who back up the statements are fine.

Most of the "backups" I have seen are false. Wrong product, reconditioned, expired deals etc.

Thread crapping? great topic to poop on
http://img72.photobucket.com/albums/v219/Ytpics/Thread%20rules%20sucks%20hijacks/th_topic_poop.jpg





just kidding, i agree with you Mavtech.

mod alert posts which are just this deal sucks and no backing it up. i think people who back up the statements are fine.

Will do!

mod alert posts which are just this deal sucks and no backing it up. i think people who back up the statements are fine.

There's a difference between letting someone know that there is a better deal somewhere else and just coming in and bashing it because it's that person's opinion. Do the Mods REALLY want even more Mod Alerts filling their PM box? Or would they rather that thread crapping be against the rules?

I am a member at Anandtech.com. That's one of the best known tech sites in existence. You thread crap there and you get :banned 1:

One of the biggest fears of a newb is getting flamed. I strongly believe we need to rid of that fear to help bring more people posting deals.

There's a difference between letting someone know that there is a better deal somewhere else and just coming in and bashing it because it's that person's opinion. Do the Mods REALLY want even more Mod Alerts filling their PM box? Or would they rather that thread crapping be against the rules?

I am a member at Anandtech.com. That's one of the best known tech sites in existence. You thread crap there and you get :banned 1:

One of the biggest fears of a newb is getting flamed. I strongly believe we need to rid of that fear to help bring more people posting deals.
go ahead and fill our inboxes. we start warning people for thread crapping and it'll get through.

Great post!!!!!

There's a BIG difference in constructive criticism and just bashing a thread for no reason, yet some people can't grasp this.....

This thread really sucks. There was a much better thread about thread crapping earlier.

:lmao:

This thread really sucks. There was a much better thread about thread crapping earlier.

:lmao:

This Threadcrapper really sucks. I've seen way better ones on Ebay.

:cool:

This Threadcrapper really sucks. I've seen way better ones on Ebay. :cool:I'd sue the manufacturer and demand my money back! They don't make Threadcrappers like they used to! If you call the company and complain, they'll give you a free Threadcrapper!

go ahead and fill our inboxes. we start warning people for thread crapping and it'll get through.

Well, the whole idea behind this is to be proactive......not reactive. I have recieved a few PMs from some members who said they don't even post deals anymore for this reason and that they love my signature.

i remember the $750 coupon bashing... but its all good, cause all you haters can cry on the sweet a$$ deal i got on my dell :).

adding it to the faq has realatively little effect unfortunately. what would happen after people threadcrap? you mod alert and we delete/warn. so i'd just like to skip to the end result.

I thought maybe they could add a Mavtech Alert button so I can go tear them a new a$$hole? No? Not a good idea?? :lmao:

I thought maybe they could add a Mavtech Alert button so I can go tear them a new a$$hole? No? Not a good idea?? :lmao:
i'll forward all threadcrapping alerts to you and you can go ahead ;)

i'll forward all threadcrapping alerts to you and you can go ahead ;)

Say! Now you're talking!

I'd sue the manufacturer and demand my money back! They don't make Threadcrappers like they used to! If you call the company and complain, they'll give you a free Threadcrapper!

I think I'll just return this Threadcrapper, and get a PM from a BM on a new Threadcrapper.

But I'm keeping the rebate from the first Threadcrapper......

In all seriousness, what really bothers me is not the posting of one's opinion, or a funny comment, it's when people will post "You can get these for half this on Ebay", when you can't, or "This is not a Slickdeal", when it's the best price ever. Or they compare it to a product with nowhere near the same specs, because they're too dumb or too cheap to know the difference. Or they can't make the link work, through their own incompentence, so they flame the OP.

I guess it's really about stupidity.

I can weed through the idiots comments if I have to, but again, like Mavtech said, if people aren't posting deals because of this kinda crap, aren't we all suffering at the hands of these morons? I buy something at least once a week because of SD. I appreciate those who take the time to post deals. I'd rather see more deals, and let me decide if their worth my time.

One of the biggest fears of a newb is getting flamed. I strongly believe we need to rid of that fear to help bring more people posting deals.


Coming from this newb: ain't that the truth brother!

Then again I'm not sure how people get through everyday life if they are afraid of getting flamed. I mean it's a computer screen!

I kept seeing the "this isn't as good as the $750 off deal" and went and read the thread. The TC in there was HI-larious.

I'm all for, if you don't want to either: a) take part in the deal or b) bring up relevant information to the thread, then don't bother posting!

Then again there is no deal here and I bring no relevant information. Nothing to see here, move along.

Coming from this newb: ain't that the truth brother!

Then again I'm not sure how people get through everyday life if they are afraid of getting flamed. I mean it's a computer screen!

I kept seeing the "this isn't as good as the $750 off deal" and went and read the thread. The TC in there was HI-larious.

I'm all for, if you don't want to either: a) take part in the deal or b) bring up relevant information to the thread, then don't bother posting!

Then again there is no deal here and I bring no relevant information. Nothing to see here, move along.

I hear you. I don't care what someone says to me here, but then again, I don't post any deals either. Lets face it, the kind of person who does take the time to do it, is probably looking for a little appreciation. I get all I need at home. Why should the a-holes chase off those who are looking to help?

I think I'll just return this Threadcrapper, and get a PM from a BM on a new Threadcrapper.

But I'm keeping the rebate from the first Threadcrapper......You can get a new Threadcrapper FAR at TigerDirect, and no charge for shi**ing on orders over $25!

You can get a new Threadcrapper FAR at TigerDirect, and no charge for shi**ing on orders over $25!

You see, that's not threadcrapping as long as you post a better deal.

You can get a new Threadcrapper FAR at TigerDirect, and no charge for shi**ing on orders over $25!

Why would you want a Threadcrapper anyway?

Get an Ipod............

I like what you people are saying in this thread. i am a relatively new and when someone dumps on a thread, i will respond by telling them i will dump on their face. if no one thread-dumped this would be a much better place. also, private conversations in threads are crap too.

Post your deal, give decent comparisons...and enjoy.

Sorry, Mavtech. But let the threadcrapping go on because on the other end of the spectrum, there are people posting things like "$100 for a 512mb RAM stick" and take a whole thread space with that. Of course we need to shoot it down. We just need to take it because the same people that threadcrap, they post deals too. And I believe they (usually) have better knowledge about products than the ones that I've mentioned above. So, it is a whole thread vs. a few posts.

Threadcrapper or Dealfinders you might be, it's all part of the experience at SD. Plus after a while, you tend to ignore them anyways. Also, if it's really a pure form of threadcrapping, someone can always come right back with evidence of why it is a good deal, so just like how our economy works, the market forces will level itself out and we'll live happily ever after in this family of cheapies. :P

Why would you want a Threadcrapper anyway?

Get an Ipod............The Ipods that compete with Threadcrappers are called "Iplops."

The Ipods that compete with Threadcrappers are called "Iplops."

Yup.

And you can only download from iturds.com...........

Sorry, Mavtech. But let the threadcrapping go on because on the other end of the spectrum, there are people posting things like "$100 for a 512mb RAM stick" and take a whole thread space with that. Of course we need to shoot it down. We just need to take it because the same people that threadcrap, they post deals too. And I believe they (usually) have better knowledge about products than the ones that I've mentioned above. So, it is a whole thread vs. a few posts.

Threadcrapper or Dealfinders you might be, it's all part of the experience at SD. Plus after a while, you tend to ignore them anyways. Also, if it's really a pure form of threadcrapping, someone can always come right back with evidence of why it is a good deal, so just like how our economy works, the market forces will level itself out and we'll live happily ever after in this family of cheapies. :P

Again....

Posting a better deal is great! But the dipsh*ts who post "this deal sucks", with no backup are what this thread is about.....

Yup.

And you can only download from iturds.com...........I heard that website is going to register in Bermuda so they can use that country's 2-letter country code instead of a top-level domain of .com.

Again....

Posting a better deal is great! But the dipsh*ts who post "this deal sucks", with no backup are what this thread is about.....

It's always going to happen, newbies pop up everyday and they don't know all the rules. I think it's fair to give them a 1 point warning, but that's SO much more work for the Mods that I don't think they want to deal with. And where do we draw the line between threadcrapping and honest two-word opinion of the thread? I think SD is a microcosm of our society, people may say whatever the heck they want, if they think the deal is no good, threadcrap and forget about it. It's their loss. And especially if it's a real good deal and they TC and others get swayed by that, more chance of me getting on the deal even when I see the deal pretty late.

Without the threadcrappers, we won't have true SDers caring and discussing this subject like Mavtech herel. No ying without the yang.

It's really hard to make a clear-cut decision about threadcrapping. On the one hand, some threads deserve it, on the other, it's done far too often in threads that don't. Either way, it's only justified if reasoning is provided.

So, yes, I feel that repeatedly posting 'this deal sucks' without any backup should result in a ban after the first two or three occurences - these people aren't likely to bring anything of value to the SD community (if you can call it that :rolleyes: ).

And an amendment to the rules would be a nice formality, but don't expect it to improve conditions in the Deals sections. Anyone who goes around trolling likely hasn't read the rules anyways, and never will.

Both of you guys make sense.

It still bothers me that people have said they won't post anymore because of the attacks. I'm not worried about peoples feelings, I'm just greedy, and I want a shot at every deal.

I've bought stuff on here from threads that had 0 replies. One man's trash is another man's treasure.......

No threads deserve threadcrapping. The person is posting to help US out. Everyone thinks differently, so a good deal in their minds might not be a good deal in your mind. So simply post a BETTER deal, which IS still in stock, and be done with it. No need to act like a child and bash someone who is trying to help you out.

It just makes no sense at all to me that someone would make fun of someone else who is trying to help them. To be honest, I think it just shows more of your character and who you are as a person. Either that or that you have a sub-par IQ......

And to all the people that say bad deals are a waste of space/time, then why do you post 10 times in the thread and threadcrap it? All you are doing it bringing it to the front page and wasting more of you "precious" time. If a deal sucks, DON'T post, and it will fade away....this isn't rocket science ladies.....

No threads deserve threadcrapping. The person is posting to help US out. Everyone thinks differently, so a good deal in their minds might not be a good deal in your mind. So simply post a BETTER deal, which IS still in stock, and be done with it. No need to act like a child and bash someone who is trying to help you out.

It just makes no sense at all to me that someone would make fun of someone else who is trying to help them. To be honest, I think it just shows more of your character and who you are as a person. Either that or that you have a sub-par IQ......

And to all the people that say bad deals are a waste of space/time, then why do you post 10 times in the thread and threadcrap it? All you are doing it bringing it to the front page and wasting more of you "precious" time. If a deal sucks, DON'T post, and it will fade away....this isn't rocket science ladies.....


Amen to that!!!!! That's my point exactly. I've enjoyed many deals that some people based to death.

I always tell people, if you don't like the deal, move on to the next. No need to go into the thread if you don't like the deal.

Mavtech, shouldn't you be off polishing your shoes and dusting off your suit?

No threads deserve threadcrapping. The person is posting to help US out. Everyone thinks differently, so a good deal in their minds might not be a good deal in your mind. So simply post a BETTER deal, which IS still in stock, and be done with it.


the problem of still in stock is many deals are available frequently like the 160 gig seagates at fry's, but at the moment its not going on. its fine if the person is in a rush and can't wait. if you can, then you'd rather know about the other deals.

the problem of still in stock is many deals are available frequently like the 160 gig seagates at fry's, but at the moment its not going on. its fine if the person is in a rush and can't wait. if you can, then you'd rather know about the other deals.

Yea, I wasn't implying on those kinda deals. Like polk speakers, which come up time after time. It's just the 750off, $25 center speaker, etc....that gets old. Yes those were great deals. Posting them as proof why a new deal sucks, doesn't make much sense.

HAHA TC, I find my Anti-TC in my SD duties now. As a member since the begining of the forum, I feel that they are screwing the quality of it.

i also agree with you mavtech

stop crapping all together

man, this threat is crap ;)

oh, yeah, i can't spell the word "thread" correctly either.....i knew i gradumated college for a reason

I voted "No" simply because I believe everyone is entitled to their opinion, and as long as its on topic, and doesn't violate the existing rules, then let them post. If they're really just threadcrapping, then the majority of other users will flame them in return... Mob justice rules!!!

I voted "No" simply because I believe everyone is entitled to their opinion, and as long as its on topic, and doesn't violate the existing rules, then let them post. If they're really just threadcrapping, then the majority of other users will flame them in return... Mob justice rules!!!

I would say it wouldn't be beneficial to have people flaming back and forth. This is why we should make it clear that it won't be tolerated from the beginning. Everyone starts out on this site. You can't expect every newb to enter the site and post a ridiculous deal right off the bat. Some people have no tolerance for newbs. In return, I have no tolerance for them.

I voted "No" simply because I believe everyone is entitled to their opinion, and as long as its on topic, and doesn't violate the existing rules, then let them post. If they're really just threadcrapping, then the majority of other users will flame them in return... Mob justice rules!!!

i think what Mavtech and others consider 'threadcrapping' is posting something to the tune of "this deal sucks" and nothing to substantiate that claim.

on the other hand, i've seen responses to substantiated claims judging them to be 'threadcrapping' merely because the poster is not excited about a particular deal for whatever reason they stated.

i don't think posts like "this deal sucks" or "this configuration is teh sux0r" contribute much. i think that everyone here would benefit more if the poster would actually explain why a deal isn't a deal, or where we all can find a certain item for an even more attractive price.

i think what Mavtech and others consider 'threadcrapping' is posting something to the tune of "this deal sucks" and nothing to substantiate that claim.

on the other hand, i've seen responses to substantiated claims judging them to be 'threadcrapping' merely because the poster is not excited about a particular deal for whatever reason they stated.

i don't think posts like "this deal sucks" or "this configuration is teh sux0r" contribute much. i think that everyone here would benefit more if the poster would actually explain why a deal isn't a deal, or where we all can find a certain item for an even more attractive price.I always consider the flipside of any argument - should we also require raves about deals to be substantive, and bar posts that just say, "This deal rocks!"?

I always consider the flipside of any argument - should we also require raves about deals to be substantive, and bar posts that just say, "This deal rocks!"?
considering the flipside sux!

considering the flipside sux!NO, CONSIDERING THE FLIPSIDE ROCKS!
:cool:

You're right and that sux!
no, rocks
ambiguity rocks

You're right and that sux!
no, rocks
ambiguity rocksAmbiguity rocks.

Negativity papers.

Optimism scissors.

Ambiguity rocks.

Negativity papers.

Optimism scissors.

It's tshirt slogan time again at SD. ;)

mod alert posts which are just this deal sucks and no backing it up. i think people who back up the statements are fine.


exactly..if you have proof to backup why a deal "sucks" or "blows" than that is fine with me..we need the altering opinions

damn skippy, i wish other forums would do the same!

i don't think posts like "this deal sucks" or "this configuration is teh sux0r" contribute much. i think that everyone here would benefit more if the poster would actually explain why a deal isn't a deal, or where we all can find a certain item for an even more attractive price.

This is EXACTLY my point. If it is listed at a better price somewhere else, post it! Nothing wrong with that as long as there is something contributed to the thread. But, too many people just flame the thread if they don't really care for it. Therefore, scarring some newbs away from posting their deals. I have also experienced many threads that I found to be a great deal but others didn't. This is why I say to leave it to the individual to decide. My own thread of the free Nokia 6820 if you extend your contract a year was a sweet deal for me. It saved me from spending $199. Others bashed it without listing a better deal.

While I disagree with thread crapping (oh i do) I support freedom of speech in any venue therefore think that the people have a right to voice their opinion.

And the people who really want the deal can recognize a good deal if there is a thread crapper or not .... and the posts can always be deleted.

Just my opinion, I could be wrong.

exactly..if you have proof to backup why a deal "sucks" or "blows" than that is fine with me..we need the altering opinions


That I can see a logical reason to "thread crap" because there is a better deal shown therefore the thread isn't useless because it still has a good deal in it ... just not the OP

I always consider the flipside of any argument - should we also require raves about deals to be substantive, and bar posts that just say, "This deal rocks!"?

i would, but my standards for posts are pretty high in general.

if we're working under the assumption that whatever's been posted is a hot deal, then i'd like to give the OP the benefit of the doubt, kinda like "innocent until proven guilty".

at the same time, opinions about a product are always welcomed by everyone who is considering a purchase. maybe we should implement a feature where we can rate other people's posts - "13 out of 16 people found this post useful".. heh.

The problem with outlawing thread crapping is you would first have to define what qualifies as such.

Examples:

Someone posts a Dell deal.

Person A posts "That computer sucks!". (clearly a TC, should be Modalerted)

Person B posts "Decent deal, but most weeks the same config runs the same or somewhat cheaper, so probably pays to pass on it." (even though no "specific" other deal posted, still imho not a TC, but useful info)

Person C posts "This other config currently through SB, though not the same specs, is clearly a better deal." (not directly comparable, but still imo not a TC)

Person D posts "This isn't as good as the $750 off deal!" (clearly a TC)

There are many other examples I can give about situations which may or may not be a TC, depending on your personal opinion. Really, it all comes down to tone. If you are respectful and not an ass, your posts won't come across badly, even if you are advising against the deal. You just have to be contributing something useful to the thread in a proper tone.

Everyone needs to be heard even if they are threadcrapping. Sometimes it does help people make a decision to buy/not buy. There needs to be a threadcrapping button on every response. If enough people click that it is thread crapping, they can be booted from the system for a day or be redirected to FW if they persist or be shown a screen shot of a fat a** to show them what they are being. Just a thought.

Everyone needs to be heard even if they are threadcrapping. Sometimes it does help people make a decision to buy/not buy. There needs to be a threadcrapping button on every response. If enough people click that it is thread crapping, they can be booted from the system for a day or be redirected to FW if they persist or be shown a screen shot of a fat a** to show them what they are being. Just a thought.

Yeah, like Rajj said, there is nothing wrong with saying something negative about it as long as it is backed up and is said with respect. For example, I work for Dell. So, I like to let people know when they are ranting and raving about a Dell deal when it is nothing more than typical Dell marketing that makes people think it's a better deal than it really is. That's my contribution. But, when people go into the Dimension 3000 deal and say nothing but "No AGP! Stay Away!" That is what I consider threadcrapping. Someone that may not know what AGP is or they just need a basic PC may stay away based on that. But, the computer may actually be what they are looking for and is a good deal for that person. Some don't take into consideration that some deals are great deals for some and not so great for others. Instead, they think that everyone should share their opinion. That's a Threadcrapper.

But, when people go into the Dimension 3000 deal and say nothing but "No AGP! Stay Away!" That is what I consider threadcrapping. Someone that may not know what AGP is or they just need a basic PC may stay away based on that.
So you want people that don't know what agp is buying the deal, then finding out it sucks for playing games, and can't be upgraded? How is that a good thing?

What about the multitudes that got bad service at at certain companies?
Can't we warn others by letting them know that certain companies/rebates suck? Or do you want them to find out for themselves? Some thread crapping serves a purpose. OK, maybe a small percentage, but to ban it all is wrong IMHO.

Say there is a really bad rebate company. Some new guy comes in and post a deal with one of their rebates. Are just supposed to shut up and let other people get ripped off, just to make the new guy feel better?

Say there is a really bad rebate company. Some new guy comes in and post a deal with one of their rebates. Are just supposed to shut up and let other people get ripped off, just to make the new guy feel better?

there is a difference between "this deal sucks" and "warning! i never got my rebate from this company", namely - the former is a wasteful, uninformative post, while the latter is a word of caution.

none of us wish to stifle negative opinions about deals, but rather curb the number of random, unsubstantiated posts that contribute very little or nothing at all.

there is a difference between "this deal sucks" and "warning! i never got my rebate from this company", namely - the former is a wasteful, uninformative post, while the latter is a word of caution.

none of us wish to stifle negative opinions about deals, but rather curb the number of random, unsubstantiated posts that contribute very little or nothing at all.
Well, by Mavtechs opinion, saying a computer deal sucks because it doesn't have agp is thread crapping, when actually this may be very good advice to someone not aware of it's limitations. This is an example of giving ones opinion while supporting it with facts (your 'word of caution'), which is what Mavtech supposedly wants, yet he uses it as an example of what should be banned.

One mans thread crapping is anothers good advice. Just like one persons good deal is anothers excuse to thread crap.

Well, by Mavtechs opinion, saying a computer deal sucks because it doesn't have agp is thread crapping, when actually this may be very good advice to someone not aware of it's limitations. This is an example of giving ones opinion while supporting it with facts (your 'word of caution'), which is what Mavtech supposedly wants, yet he uses it as an example of what should be banned.

One mans thread crapping is anothers good advice. Just like one persons good deal is anothers excuse to thread crap.

Just saying "No AGP! Stay Away!" is totally different than saying "Just to let people know, this system does not have an AGP port and cannot be upgraded to it. It is integrated."

Also, here is how you properly criticise a deal:

Spend $100 more for the 4700 with the 17" LCD panel if you'd like to have the expandability of the PCI-Express video card slot and you think a 15" LCD is a bit small. Not that this 3000 deal is not hot, it is.
http://forums.slickdeals.net/t81172.html?

Staying respectable without flaming is the idea behind my Anti-Threadcrapping campaign.

While I disagree with thread crapping (oh i do) I support freedom of speech in any venue therefore think that the people have a right to voice their opinion.I'm a strong supporter of the ACLU, but this is a moderated site and the moderators have the right to censor any messages they wish; it's their site.

I trust the Mods to delete stupid messaegs. I'm all for having discussions on the pros/cons of a deal, otherwise the threads themselves wouldn't matter. If the Mods are willing to delete the garbage so it's easier to judge whether a deal's good, I'm all for that!!!

If part of the reason for this "No Thread Crapping" initiative is to prevent newbs from getting scared away from posting deals, I don't know how well it will work. I've seen this type of thing tried on several different forums and it never seems to work.

Why? People will always get their feelings hurt as long as there are pricks out there who hide behind the anonymity of the Internet to say things they would never say to someone in person. If you try to regulate this forum to the point of deleting any post that contains anything that isn't constructive, you will probably lose more people than you help.

I would agree with deleting anything that could be considered:

- Spam
- Obscene/Pr0n
- Self Promoting (referral codes, etc)
- Hateful (not simply offensive to the original poster, but actual hateful or threatening content)
- Nigerian money laundering schemes
- Fraud
- Promoting illegal activities (copyright violations, etc)
- Probably many of the other things listed in the forum guidlines, which I don't have memorized...

Also, anyone who complains that the forum moderators are taking away their constitutionally guaranteed freedom of speech need to understand that this is a privately owned and operated forum. Freedom of speech applies only to public venues like a city street or something you own, like your own newspaper or forum. If you don't like the mods deleting something you've posted, then start your own forum and you can decide how to manage it.

I'm a strong supporter of the ACLU, but this is a moderated site and the moderators have the right to censor any messages they wish; it's their site.

I trust the Mods to delete stupid messaegs. I'm all for having discussions on the pros/cons of a deal, otherwise the threads themselves wouldn't matter. If the Mods are willing to delete the garbage so it's easier to judge whether a deal's good, I'm all for that!!!
Aren't you asking a lot from the moderators? Most of the really good SD's happen so fast that it would be hard to edit it in real time; especially when there is a new post every 10-30 seconds. this is my point you see a SD that was posted 20 min ago, there are already 2 pages of posts (soon to be 3), and half of the replies are either off topic or threadcrapps by the time you weed through enough to decide that you want to do the deal, & how to avoid the quirks the deal has been pulled. I think banning TC's would just make SD a little easier, wouldn't that be nice. the mods can't keep up with everything, it would be nearly impossable. :nod:

How about we review some actual previous posts and then vote on if they are TC or no TC?

Here's one from the 750 off 1500 thread:

http://forums.slickdeals.net/t47766.html?&page=2&pp=15&highlight=750+1500

Quote:
" Originally Posted by mohater
Not really seeing a big diff between this and the $500 off with $200 mail in. THat one came stock with more things (burner/dvd, bigger hd) and here you need to add the things that were given regardless before

any thoughts? "




One thing is you don't have to wait for the $200 rebate, but Yeh I'd say this deal is medium to luke warm slickdeal. Once you add tax and shipping, you'll get a nice laptop for $900. Certainly not a bad deal, but are you going to use it? If you truly are gonna use the laptop by all means pick it up but people with intentions of reselling arn't gonna see the type of porfits to make me jump in the air.

final verdict = luke warm slickdeal

How about we review some actual previous posts and then vote on if they are TC or no TC?

Here's one from the 750 off 1500 thread:

http://forums.slickdeals.net/t47766.html?&page=2&pp=15&highlight=750+1500

Quote:
" Originally Posted by mohater
Not really seeing a big diff between this and the $500 off with $200 mail in. THat one came stock with more things (burner/dvd, bigger hd) and here you need to add the things that were given regardless before

any thoughts? "




One thing is you don't have to wait for the $200 rebate, but Yeh I'd say this deal is medium to luke warm slickdeal. Once you add tax and shipping, you'll get a nice laptop for $900. Certainly not a bad deal, but are you going to use it? If you truly are gonna use the laptop by all means pick it up but people with intentions of reselling arn't gonna see the type of porfits to make me jump in the air.

final verdict = luke warm slickdeal

I wouldn't think that is tc'ing at all.

Well, by Mavtechs opinion, saying a computer deal sucks because it doesn't have agp is thread crapping, when actually this may be very good advice to someone not aware of it's limitations. This is an example of giving ones opinion while supporting it with facts (your 'word of caution'), which is what Mavtech supposedly wants, yet he uses it as an example of what should be banned.

One mans thread crapping is anothers good advice. Just like one persons good deal is anothers excuse to thread crap.

No. If you just posted 'This computer sucks, no AGP' the outcome would be either

a) Someone reads your post, and, knowing what AGP is, either thinks to him/herself 'No shxt, Captain Obvious' or chimes in with 'LOLOLLOOL YA INTEGRATED SUX THIS IS WORTH LESS LLOL'

b) Someone reads your post, and, not having the faintest idea what AGP is, figures they shouldn't buy the computer based on your and others' 'THIS SUCKS AND IS WORTHLESS' comments.

So, yes, that's threadcrapping. If you posted something like 'Just to let you know, this doesn't have an AGP slot, so you can't add AGP video cards. This PC won't run games or graphics-intensive applications very well, if at all, but for normal e-mailing and web-surfing it's a nice deal', you've effectively reasoned why the deal might 'suck' for some, while still allowing people to make their own, and now informed, choice.

Also, saying "this computer deal sucks, it doesn't have agp" doesn't help the thread at all, just craps on it. Instead, saying "btw, this computer doesn't have agp"

Very different :)

No. If you just posted 'This computer sucks, no AGP' the outcome would be either

a) Someone reads your post, and, knowing what AGP is, either thinks to him/herself 'No shxt, Captain Obvious' or chimes in with 'LOLOLLOOL YA INTEGRATED SUX THIS IS WORTH LESS LLOL'

b) Someone reads your post, and, not having the faintest idea what AGP is, figures they shouldn't buy the computer based on your and others' 'THIS SUCKS AND IS WORTHLESS' comments.

So, yes, that's threadcrapping. If you posted something like 'Just to let you know, this doesn't have an AGP slot, so you can't add AGP video cards. This PC won't run games or graphics-intensive applications very well, if at all, but for normal e-mailing and web-surfing it's a nice deal', you've effectively reasoned why the deal might 'suck' for some, while still allowing people to make their own, and now informed, choice.

Amen!! :woot:

This is EXACTLY my point also.

If part of the reason for this "No Thread Crapping" initiative is to prevent newbs from getting scared away from posting deals, I don't know how well it will work. I've seen this type of thing tried on several different forums and it never seems to work.


Take a look at one of the most established forums on the internet and you will see how well the mods there control threadcrapping: Anandtech (www.anandtech.com)

Just saying "No AGP! Stay Away!" is totally different than saying "Just to let people know, this system does not have an AGP port and cannot be upgraded to it. It is integrated."

Also, here is how you properly criticise a deal:



Staying respectable without flaming is the idea behind my Anti-Threadcrapping campaign.
Ah, so now this is a 'be polite" ammendment? Dang, why didn't you say so? Lets get this going in the podium asap, and get rid of all them rude a-holes. I could post the time of day in there and get flamed!

I'd still would rather see a "No AGP! Stay Away!" than get one without realizing it didn't have agp until after I spent my money... What if there aren't any polite people willing to point that out? Some of them thread crappers, while rude, actually know what they're talking about, they just don't have any social skills to speak of...

Sorry for crapping on yur thread... ;)

I'd still would rather see a "No AGP! Stay Away!" than get one without realizing it didn't have agp until after I spent my money... What if there aren't any polite people willing to point that out? Some of them thread crappers, while rude, actually know what they're talking about, they just don't have any social skills to speak of...

If they can spend the time to type 'No AGP, this sucks' they can spend the extra ten seconds to type up an explanation of why it sucks. It isn't difficult, in concept or in practice, to back up your statements. All you have to do is bang out a brief explanation of what AGP is and why the computer in question would not be a very good deal for a gamer.

If they can spend the time to type 'No AGP, this sucks' they can spend the extra ten seconds to type up an explanation of why it sucks. It isn't difficult, in concept or in practice, to back up your statements. All you have to do is bang out a brief explanation of what AGP is and why the computer in question would not be a very good deal for a gamer.

You are correct. To add to this, not having AGP would suck for some. But, for others, it doesn't matter. It may be a very slick deal for those people. That is part of the reason of this thread. People need to leave the decisions up to the individual.

I'm sick and tired of folks bitching:

Well, this 8400 would be better if it was an XPS and better resale.

WTF? It's an 8400 slick deal, not an XPS, STFU!@$#@!#

Call me bitter.

I also wish people would take things in context - we've been using computer deals as examples mainly, I think, because these tend to be approached from a hardcore gamer's standpoint. If you really have to bitch about a $200 PC not having AGP and sucking for gaming, you're a moron. There's no polite way to say it.

If they can spend the time to type 'No AGP, this sucks' they can spend the extra ten seconds to type up an explanation of why it sucks. It isn't difficult, in concept or in practice, to back up your statements. All you have to do is bang out a brief explanation of what AGP is and why the computer in question would not be a very good deal for a gamer.
Again, What if there aren't any polite people willing to point that out? I'd still like to have some rude mfr point out flaws than no one...

Again, What if there aren't any polite people willing to point that out? I'd still like to have some rude mfr point out flaws than no one...

Then the post gets ModAlerted and deleted? It's not like 'This sucks, no AGP' is helping anyone, at all. If you already know what AGP is you don't need to be told that it 'sucks', if you don't know what it is, the post doesn't give any information as to why it 'sucks'.

It's like someobody posting 'Oh, this sucks, it doesn't have an onboard 33-B-45DA decoder chip'. Most people wouldn't know what the hell that means.

Again, What if there aren't any polite people willing to point that out? I'd still like to have some rude mfr point out flaws than no one...

Again, that may be a flaw for someone like me or you. But, about 60% of computer users don't even do anything that would need anything more than an integrated graphics card. So, we don't want to scare those people away by making a generalized assumption of that PC sucking for everyone. Some may take it literally in that way.

So, we don't want to scare those people away by making a generalized assumption of that PC sucking for everyone. Some may take it literally in that way.

This is actually a pretty big concern. A lot of emphasis is placed on general computer knowledge these days, and knowing the terminology is important; we shouldn't underestimate the impacts of social stigma resulting from this. Someone who doesn't know what AGP is may well be too embarassed to ask, or may assume that it's something really, really important. They may, therefore, gravitate towards a high-end $1500 PC with all the bells and whistles rather than risk buying a $300 PC which everyone says 'sucks', even though it would more than likely be a perfect buy for their needs.

This is actually a pretty big concern. A lot of emphasis is placed on general computer knowledge these days, and knowing the terminology is important; we shouldn't underestimate the impacts of social stigma resulting from this. Someone who doesn't know what AGP is may well be too embarassed to ask, or may assume that it's something really, really important. They may, therefore, gravitate towards a high-end $1500 PC with all the bells and whistles rather than risk buying a $300 PC which everyone says 'sucks', even though it would more than likely be a perfect buy for their needs.

Again, you see my point exactly. :hug:

This place just gets to rude sometimes and too many people get their panties in a bunch over stupid crap.

Again, you see my point exactly. :hug:

This place just gets to rude sometimes and too many people get their panties in a bunch over stupid crap.

Unfortunately, that's the internet. But we can at least make an effort to control it here.

Unfortunately, that's the internet. But we can at least make an effort to control it here.

Yeah, a lot of people grow balls on the internet. But, would be a catcat IRL.

I like it. I think the word has gotten out. Over 100 people have voted in this poll. I also notice others talking about making sure not to threadcrap.

It's all about being respectable people. No one is saying you can't say anything negative about a deal.

There's always a way to say even the most negative things politely...

What I don't understand is having no AGP for a $200 PC is an excellent deal! Better than spending $400+ even for an E-machine or worse, a $1500 PC (G-squared comment). You can still put a PCI video card for decent light gaming like a FX5700 or a 9250 for the same $$$ as a AGP. For some ppl who are broke to even afford to fix their frankenstein celeron 333 or P2 733, its a better upgrade then to dip more $$$ into a PC that pretty much is maxed @ its full potential

TC should have substantially high warning points & the ModAlert idea is an excellent concept IMO. Only problem I still see is it still boggles down to personal opinion... TC or not TC. The final determination is in the eyes of the mod handling it, not the SD'ers who believe its TC (except the "no AGP, this deal sucks" then I believe a mod would proptly take action in those cases)

I've bought a lot of computers in the last year, and I don't think any of them had agp slots. The gamers aren't the only ones using computers! If they want to post, "just be aware, if you're a hard core gamer, this might not work for you," fine. But, "this deal sucks", doesn't help anybody, and keeps some from posting deals.

I enjoy reading advice posts, even if I might disagree with them, if they're offered in the spirit of advice. I don't think this is rocket science.

Mavtech is right, this has put the issue in the forefront, and I notice others taking on the TC'ers when they post.

Although several of the problem children continue to crap.....

Just want to mention thread crapping of the totally useless kind has happened in the Free american spirit cigarettes posts and the religious anything posts as well- it's not just computers.

Personally I hate to search through crap deals and reposts in order to get to a few really good slickdeals. Sure sometimes reposts are helpful (for those who don't know how to use the powerful search feature) and one mans junk is another mans treasure but I'm spending up to an hour or more a day trying to keep updated on the forums. I have posted some great slickdeals and I have posted some crappy ones too and I appreciate the SD's letting me know when they suck, I am now a much better SD'r.

I wish threads would move to different folders based on their rating so you could look at the negative, the 0-2, and the 3+ thumbs up threads. Then I wouldn't have to bother looking at peoples crap threads!

Personally I hate to search through crap deals and reposts in order to get to a few really good slickdeals. Sure sometimes reposts are helpful (for those who don't know how to use the powerful search feature) and one mans junk is another mans treasure but I'm spending up to an hour or more a day trying to keep updated on the forums. I have posted some great slickdeals and I have posted some crappy ones too and I appreciate the SD's letting me know when they suck, I am now a much better SD'r.

I wish threads would move to different folders based on their rating so you could look at the negative, the 0-2, and the 3+ thumbs up threads. Then I wouldn't have to bother looking at peoples crap threads!

The folder idea seems promising

I like F@twallet's system.

I like F@twallet's system.

What system is that? I've never been there. The one I know that works is how they handle it on Anandtech. They give a user one warning and then see ya! Banned for a week on the second offense.

I like people beefin' on people's threads.....because either
1. The beef is valid and the thread was weak, so good riddance to bad rubbish OR
2. The beef is not vaild and the anyone "crapping" looks stupid because people are getting a good deal because of the posting.

The only thing im against is the ex. of someone post an mp3 deal and getting 10 replies of "go get an ipod", because that kind of post doesn't even hold relevance to the OP. Whereas crapping on someone who posts "5 dollars off 1,000 purchase at the cookie factory" is more relevant.

The folder idea seems promising
It kinda does, but you have to understand MANY people give good threads thumbs down, either because they couldn't get on the deal, or because it is too high priced for them.

I like people beefin' on people's threads.....because either
1. The beef is valid and the thread was weak, so good riddance to bad rubbish OR
2. The beef is not vaild and the anyone "crapping" looks stupid because people are getting a good deal because of the posting.

The only thing im against is the ex. of someone post an mp3 deal and getting 10 replies of "go get an ipod", because that kind of post doesn't even hold relevance to the OP. Whereas crapping on someone who posts "5 dollars off 1,000 purchase at the cookie factory" is more relevant.

Just because it's a bad deal doesn't mean you have to TC. Be a adult about it and show them why it's not a good deal (ie give links to better deals). The person was only trying to help you...there is no reason they should get attitude for trying to help......

GreatWhite, nice signature. Thanks for the support.

I like people beefin' on people's threads.....because either
1. The beef is valid and the thread was weak, so good riddance to bad rubbish OR
2. The beef is not vaild and the anyone "crapping" looks stupid because people are getting a good deal because of the posting.

The only thing im against is the ex. of someone post an mp3 deal and getting 10 replies of "go get an ipod", because that kind of post doesn't even hold relevance to the OP. Whereas crapping on someone who posts "5 dollars off 1,000 purchase at the cookie factory" is more relevant.
I've purchased lots of stuff on here that others crapped on, mostly because they were too dumb to realize what it was, or too cheap to buy it. Rarely do I see justified crapping........

Let's not lose sight of the issue here.

I'm not trying to protect other's feelings. I'm trying to keep posters from being discouraged not to post!

If anyone flames or thread craps in the Freebies, Magazines, or Coupons, Use the Mod Alert Button

I already posted my warning to people in the Read Me First thread Lux started. I have 0 tolerance for thread crappers & flaming.

I agree. Mod alert the assholes. We have enough rules. Let the mods do their job and decide if a reported incident violates the rules. Personally, I think we should change the rules to ban offensive avatars and signature lines. bwahahahahahah

GreatWhite, nice signature. Thanks for the support.
It's a great thread! I've pm'ed mod's about it before, but this a lot better way to get the point across! With all that slickdeals have given me, I feel I owe it and should at least try to make it a better place for everyone.


And about the mod alert button, believe me, I use it a lot :) I've been waiting for a pm from a mod telling me to stop using it soo much, lol...I try not to use it that much, but soo many posts need it....

stop spamming our email and pm's with mod alerts!!!!

j/k, seriously if its an offending post, we don't care how many there are, we'll deal with them

I think we should change the rules to ban offensive avatars and signature lines. bwahahahahahah
I wonder if my avatar is offensive... (the blood & GAT!) but AIM got what's coming to him!! :lmao:

I agree. Mod alert the assholes. We have enough rules. Let the mods do their job and decide if a reported incident violates the rules. Personally, I think we should change the rules to ban offensive avatars and signature lines. bwahahahahahah

You're probably joking about the avatars and signature lines, but let's get rid of the pewy yellow background, it's making me depressed. Those smily faces make me sick and I get sad when my deal from the front page of newegg gets shot down by the TCrappers.

Let's not lose sight of the issue here.

I'm not trying to protect other's feelings. I'm trying to keep posters from being discouraged not to post!


yea I was kind of feeling that way because I been posting alot of freebies this week, hope the mods are not mad at me for posting alot of freebies. Heck I was thinking about leaving cause I got flammed for posting 5 deals. but thanks to Kel_be's support I am going to stay on the forums. :D

But I do feel if someone has a negative opinion about a produce (not the deal) it should be voiced. I.E.-I got a slickdeal digital camera for $20 which is a piece of crap, it takes horrible shots inside and outside, the zoom doesn't work and battery life is sucky. But in this case you get what you pay for.

But I do feel if someone has a negative opinion about a produce (not the deal) it should be voiced. I.E.-I got a slickdeal digital camera for $20 which is a piece of crap, it takes horrible shots inside and outside, the zoom doesn't work and battery life is sucky. But in this case you get what you pay for.

Negative opinions are welcome as long as they contribute something to the thread and are backed up. For example, in your case with the camera, this would be acceptable:

"I bought this camera with the $20 Slickdeal. IMO, this camera is pretty cheap quality. I don't like the shots it takes (they are kind of grainy), the zoom isn't very good, and the battery only lasts a short while. Here are some other user reviews: www.camerareviews.com. Anyone else have any problems with it?"

This would not be accepted: "This camera sucks!!"

You see the difference? One gives a legit complaint and is backed up and is referenced. The other contributes absolutely nothing of any value.

But I do feel if someone has a negative opinion about a produce (not the deal) it should be voiced. I.E.-I got a slickdeal digital camera for $20 which is a piece of crap, it takes horrible shots inside and outside, the zoom doesn't work and battery life is sucky. But in this case you get what you pay for.

Even a negative comment about the deal is fine, if it's backed up. In other words, post where the deal is better. That's contributing! But so many of the negative comments about deals come from those who are too stupid to know what the product is, or too cheap to spend the money. Just because it's something you're not interested in, doesn't mean it's not a good deal for someone else.

Well, I'm not going to go through 8 pages of posts, so if this has been brought up before, then ignore it.

Anyway, I think this is a good idea. And to add to it, can we do the same thing for idiots who post "this is a repost" all the damn time? I hate that shit. I cannot count the amount of times I have seen a deal for the first time and seen "REPOST!" as one of the first replies. Sometimes I even try and search for the repost to see the related thread if it's a product I am considering buyinig, however, I rarely find it

Therefore, I think people who post "REPOST" should have to link to the original thread. Posting a reply of repost does absolutely nothing. If they are informed enough to know it's a repost, then they should be informed enough to post a link to the original thread.

Well, I'm not going to go through 8 pages of posts, so if this has been brought up before, then ignore it.

Anyway, I think this is a good idea. And to add to it, can we do the same thing for idiots who post "this is a repost" all the damn time? I hate that shit. I cannot count the amount of times I have seen a deal for the first time and seen "REPOST!" as one of the first replies. Sometimes I even try and search for the repost to see the related thread if it's a product I am considering buyinig, however, I rarely find it

Therefore, I think people who post "REPOST" should have to link to the original thread. Posting a reply of repost does absolutely nothing. If they are informed enough to know it's a repost, then they should be informed enough to post a link to the original thread.

You are correct. Anyone who reports a repost should provide a link. That is required when it is being reported to the Mods.

By the way......8 pages??? I only see 3. ;)

About the repost...some deals I agree are hard to find if they were posted before. But some, all I do is type in "mvp 2005" and BAM, there is a post....A couple times the org. post has been right next to the repost......

But if it's something for dell, I could see how it's hard to find out if what ur posting is a repost....but you can tell some posters did NOT search before they posted, which is asked of us as posters...and I quote

"General usage comments
Prior to posting, please use the search feature to see if your contribution has already been posted."

If someone simply says "repost", I don't think that should be taken harshly, as it has before....If someone says it w/ attitude, that is different.......but I mean, come on! They aren't bashing your deal or taking a personal shot at you, all they are doing is informing everyone that it is a repost. After ONE person posts reposts, then I agree it is not needed to be posted again. That is the only thing I think that detures noobs from posting again, when 10 people all say "REPOST, BLAH BLAH BLAH". But if ur the first one, they I don't see any harm in it....

just mod alerted 3 threadcrappers and told them to send them to you mavtech

just mod alerted 3 threadcrappers and told them to send them to you mavtech

Nice title!! I like it. :worship:

How would the 'No threadcrapping" rule be enforced?

How is threadcrapping judged? It is a subjective measure, after all.

How much extra information does someone have to give to elevate his critizism from threadcrapping to "legitimate" criticism?

What's the penalty for threadcrapping?

How much extra work will enforcing this be for the mods?

How would the 'No threadcrapping" rule be enforced?

How is threadcrapping judged? It is a subjective measure, after all.

How much extra information does someone have to give to elevate his critizism from threadcrapping to "legitimate" criticism?

What's the penalty for threadcrapping?

How much extra work will enforcing this be for the mods?

I think it pretty much already has been enforced. I've noticed a decline in just crap posts like "This deal sucks".

Threadcrapping is judged as being a post that makes absolutely no contribution to the thread and in so many words just "craps" on the thread (see my above example).

I asked one of the mods if Mod Alerts have gone up. He said only slightly. Nothing overwhelming.

As for penalties, I think it would take more time before there are any penalties given by the admin or mods here. But, over at Anandtech.com, threadcrapping is a serious offense. Not only will you get people on your ass for it, your post will be deleted and a possible temporary ban could come your way.

I move that participants in the forums be certified that they have a minimum IQ level of at least 70 or in absence of that, a sense of humor.

I move that participants in the forums be certified that they have a minimum IQ level of at least 70 or in absence of that, a sense of humor.
1) I'm not doing an IQ test to post
2) Not everyone have the same sense on humor

Whats the difference between a threadcrapper and someone who just posts REPOST and a dumb remark?

Speaking from the Freebie Forum.. going around telling someone "Repost" is stupid especially since we recently "fixed" that problem by suggesting people Mod Alert with the link and move along.

Is that a form of threadcrapping?

And if so... then someone needs to decide which side of the fence they want to be on. :rolleyes:

Whats the difference between a threadcrapper and someone who just posts REPOST and a dumb remark?

Speaking from the Freebie Forum.. going around telling someone "Repost" is stupid especially since we recently "fixed" that problem by suggesting people Mod Alert with the link and move along.

Is that a form of threadcrapping?

And if so... then someone needs to decide which side of the fence they want to be on. :rolleyes:

No, I don't see anything wrong with letting someone know it was a repost unless all you post is: REPOST!!

I hate that. There needs to be a link supplied to the other thread.

There needs to be a link supplied to the other thread.
And they Mod Alert it. That's my pet-peev. They post the original link & move on to the next post. It's not that hard to do 1 extra step.

What's the penalty for threadcrapping?


Since this group is probably too liberal for capital punishment, I'd settle for amputating a limb. They could even pick which one.

faq/rules updated.

I still see thread crapping everyday. Makes me want to leave sd because it such bullshi when you post a deal and the next thing you know is ***** users complaining that it sucks that it doesn't have free shipping, tax ect. I posted this one deal which was Free After Rebate with free instore pickup, two-three users complained that its not free because you have to pay taxes and also it costs gas to drive to the store. I was so damn disappointed to see this crap. FW is much more friendly.

I still see thread crapping everyday. Makes me want to leave sd because it such bullshi when you post a deal and the next thing you know is ***** users complaining that it sucks that it doesn't have free shipping, tax ect. I posted this one deal which was Free After Rebate with free instore pickup, two-three users complained that its not free because you have to pay taxes and also it costs gas to drive to the store. I was so damn disappointed to see this crap. FW is much more friendly.

Well, this is what we are all trying to cut out. Mod Alert it. They will take care of it and warn the offender.

This thread has as many posts in the forum as the total of the next two highest threads made during the last year.

Could it be that EVERYTHING possible has been said on the subject? Is there anything new to add, or are we merely rehashing?

well up till friday, the rules hadn't been updating, so many people where just stating their support

A problem I've noticed, is that people want us (the Mods.) to stop the threadcrapping, but no one will report it.

So I suggest that every who voted to stop the threadcrapping to use the Mod Alert when they come across threadcrapping.

Who really cares? Read it, take the responses for face value and move on.

Yes, it does show better etiquette by reply "this is not the best product, you can find a better product for s similar price, such as..."

Or even a "the price is real good because this is not a quality item...you get what you pay for."

But since the average IQ of the people leaving posts are the same as my average golf score, what do you expect.

Who really cares? Read it, take the responses for face value and move on.

Apparently lots of folks do.

And you can't "read it and move on" if the deal wasn't posted in the first place because of fear of Threadcrapping.

Just stating my support for abolishing threadcrapping. I hate browsing through a hot deal only to have to sift through 9 pages of posts, half of which are garbage. Many times on later pages, other SDers will tell whether they successfully got the deal or not, especially on a YMMV. This is important for me to know if I am going to attempt it too. But usually, I wade through so much threadcrapping that the cuffs of my pants have to be cleaned off. I don't even mind it so much when people say something like norton personal firewall sucks, get zonealarm instead (The names have been changed to protect the innocent). Posts like these, allow me to find out about alternatives to the product I am looking at. Sometimes there is a cheaper or even free alternative to what I am using or looking at and I want to know about it. But people who just say "this deal sucks" or start a totally different topic that goes on for 10 pages really get on my nerves. That's just my 2 cents.

EDIT:Many people think I am saying that you cannot say anything negative about a deal. That just isn't the case. For example, we had one person in a Dell thread yesterday only say "The 600M sucks!" That's threadcrapping and contributes nothing to the thread. The way you would state it to stay in line with forum etiquette would be "I bought the 600M. I find the weight to be a little too heavy for my use. So, I returned it for the 700M. I also had the XGA screen. I didn't like the lower resolution. So, I returned it in favor of the 700M. I also prefer the Trulife screen on the 700M. Here are some other user reviews from CNET: blah blah blah" That is input that other members can take into consideration because you are leaving interpretation up to the user/member. They then can decide if they like the 700M or the 600M. Just posting "This deal sucks!" or "The 600M sucks!" is threadcrapping and I think people will now start to get on members that post in that way.

One of the biggest things that scares new deal posters away is the fear of getting flamed after posting a deal. I have received many positive comments and PMs about mine and Elmer's anti-threadcrapping campaign and signatures.

It ticks me off when you have someone trying to help out by posting a deal and some a$$ coming in to the thread and contributing absolutely nothing other than yelling "THIS DEAL SUCKS".

I say the rule should be that if you have nothing to contribute to the thread, STAY OUT!! If you have a better deal, POST IT!! But, let the readers and members decide for themselves if it is a good deal. Some deals are awesome to one person and not to another. Let the individual decide!!

For example, I posted a deal back about 2 months ago for a free Nokia 6820 if you extend your contract a year. For me and many others, that was a smoking deal. I was about to pay $199 for that phone a month before. So, it saved me money. But, I still got people just posting crap like "AT&T Sucks" or "Nokia phones Suck!" I chased them off pretty quick because a lot of people liked that deal.

Any comments??
I vote in favor of this.

Location: SL,UT

I was like "slut?" huh?

Wow ... I need sleep