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.The Boss
04-23-2005, 07:14 AM
I searched, did not find an identical topic.
We should have a store ratings system, where SDers can submit their experience with stores. I do not see any cons, post it if you have any.
XXnarg
04-23-2005, 08:14 AM
What do you think of http://resellerratings.com/
.The Boss
04-23-2005, 10:51 AM
What do you think of http://resellerratings.com/
Excellent, that is what I always do. But SD needs to be extended and also it needs to keep up with other competitors. We will have more users, and we will be recognized more. We have enough users that will post reviews on stores.
mmathis
04-23-2005, 10:59 AM
Why not just throw them in the Product Reviews (http://forums.slickdeals.net/f19-product-reviews.html?) forum? I think somebody has already posted a rant on CompUSA
.The Boss
04-23-2005, 11:07 AM
Why not just throw them in the Product Reviews (http://forums.slickdeals.net/f19-product-reviews.html?) forum? I think somebody has already posted a rant on CompUSA
Can't we be more professional?. We are featured in PCWORLD magazine 3.5/5 stars. They said "The deals may be sllick, but the site sure isn't." Also they were categorizing this site as COUPONS site which we are NOT.
Members won't be able to read the reviews on store if they are old and located on the 10th page of forums.
arjunsr
04-23-2005, 11:48 AM
i asked about this a couple times, maybe it was in the mod lounge. the feeling i got was use reseller ratings, and if you want anything else, use the product review section.
fadingfortune
04-23-2005, 01:31 PM
hmm. good idea. insiderpages is a pretty good place to get info on stores in your area as well
XXnarg
04-23-2005, 01:47 PM
IMHO, a site should focus on what it does best (i.e., slick deals) and let other sites do what they do best (Motley Fool for stock discussion, Reseller Ratings for vendor reviews, etc.).
If a site can do something outside their core purpose reasonably well, then there is justification, but it's not worth it to do something poorly when it is already done well by other sites.
.The Boss
04-23-2005, 04:07 PM
IMHO, a site should focus on what it does best (i.e., slick deals) and let other sites do what they do best (Motley Fool for stock discussion, Reseller Ratings for vendor reviews, etc.).
If a site can do something outside their core purpose reasonably well, then there is justification, but it's not worth it to do something poorly when it is already done well by other sites.
Read my previous post that I replied to you. We are not classified as "Slick Deals" site by PC MAG. Other sites that offers reviews needs users, and we have plenty of them.
XXnarg
04-23-2005, 07:39 PM
Read my previous post that I replied to you. We are not classified as "Slick Deals" site by PC MAG. Other sites that offers reviews needs users, and we have plenty of them.Our attempts at vendor reviews have been lackluster, if one goes by the responses to the various threads where people were given the opportunity to rate and comment on vendors.
mmathis
04-23-2005, 10:30 PM
Members won't be able to read the reviews on store if they are old and located on the 10th page of forums.
Maybe there could be one sticky post linking all the reviews of stores in the forum (like the guide to the lounge thread). Each store review thread could get a poll, with options 1-10 (can you do 10 poll options?). Reviews could then cast their vote for how good the store is, and write the details if they wish.
Why not get a couple started, and see how they do? I'll try to write one or two tomorrow
MikeBlaz
04-24-2005, 04:22 AM
Can't we be more professional?. We are featured in PCWORLD magazine 3.5/5 stars. They said "The deals may be sllick, but the site sure isn't."
Professional? Personally, I'd discontinue "The Lounge". Not only is that area uninformative and immature (little kids) but their overflow into more important forums (Hot Deals, Tech etc.) creates the feel of a "Bo-Bo" site. No more lounge....more quality post = better site.
.The Boss
04-24-2005, 08:37 AM
Professional? Personally, I'd discontinue "The Lounge". Not only is that area uninformative and immature (little kids) but their overflow into more important forums (Hot Deals, Tech etc.) creates the feel of a "Bo-Bo" site. No more lounge....more quality post = better site.
I like the lounge, I learn a lot from there. And i have not seen their overflow into more important forums. Right now, we are not talking about lounge.
.The Boss
04-24-2005, 08:51 AM
Maybe there could be one sticky post linking all the reviews of stores in the forum (like the guide to the lounge thread). Each store review thread could get a poll, with options 1-10 (can you do 10 poll options?). Reviews could then cast their vote for how good the store is, and write the details if they wish.
Why not get a couple started, and see how they do? I'll try to write one or two tomorrow
Excellent idea, but the forum for 'store rating' should not be visible to users. On homepage, there are coupons for every store, and those store should have a link where it takes you to the topic under that store name where you can rate that store and post comments. Plus avatar, signatures, Join Date, Location, Posts, Ranks should be disabled on those pages.
Striker
04-24-2005, 09:31 AM
Professional? Personally, I'd discontinue "The Lounge". Not only is that area uninformative and immature (little kids) but their overflow into more important forums (Hot Deals, Tech etc.) creates the feel of a "Bo-Bo" site. No more lounge....more quality post = better site.
I agree. The lounge doesn't benefit the purpose of this site. The podium is even worse in this aspect. The other forums such as tech support are workable, because a lot of the questions are related to products that are found as deals here.
XXnarg
04-24-2005, 03:21 PM
IMHO, the Lounge and Podium absorb comments that would otherwise creep into main forums. People don't have to visit the L&P if they don't want to.
.The Boss
04-24-2005, 03:58 PM
Can't we stay on topic here please?
Scampsters
04-24-2005, 06:26 PM
Maybe have it so it automatically sends the reviews to the store in question. This store review idea is great rank them on different aspects like responsiveness to issues, reliability of rebates ecc.
MikeBlaz
04-25-2005, 02:42 AM
IMHO, the Lounge and Podium absorb comments that would otherwise creep into main forums. People don't have to visit the L&P if they don't want to.
Otherwise? I'd ban whoever brought that crap into a "real" forum....
This site will NEVER be considered a "real spot to visit" until the little immature sh!t is done away with (a.k.a. Lounge/Podium)....C'mon Xnarg, just one topic in the Lounge presently "I Just Got Mooned!"....how stupid! I realize that I don't have to visit that section but that is why this site is considered a "non-issue" as far as "real deal" sites are concerned....
**To Mr Slickdeals: Not sure why you put an ounce of "server power" into the Lounge/Podium section of this site? (Search function/Bandwidth) It adds NOTHING....and only degrades the site itself and it's initial purpose.
Aluvus
04-25-2005, 02:54 AM
Otherwise? I'd ban whoever brought that crap into a "real" forum....
This site will NEVER be considered a "real spot to visit" until the little immature sh!t is done away with (a.k.a. Lounge/Podium)....C'mon Xnarg, just one topic in the Lounge presently "I Just Got Mooned!"....how stupid! I realize that I don't have to visit that section but this is why this site is considered a "non-issue" as far as "real deal" sites are concerned....
**To Mr Slickdeals: Not sure why you put an ounce of "server power" into the Lounge/Podium section of this site? (Search function/Bandwidth) It adds NOTHING....and only degrades the site itself and it's initial purpose.
Have you ever heard the "safety valve" theory about the American West? The idea is that the West attracted all the "undesirable" or restless aspects of society and concentrated them, away from the rest of society. They would have existed either way; but the West drew them away from everyone else.
Catch my drift?
MikeBlaz
04-25-2005, 03:10 AM
Have you ever heard the "safety valve" theory about the American West? The idea is that the West attracted all the "undesirable" or restless aspects of society and concentrated them, away from the rest of society. They would have existed either way; but the West drew them away from everyone else.
Catch my drift?
Yeah...and I just placed it in my hand? WTF?
Your babble made little sense....and I see that you like the Lounge/Podium section of this site (post(s)) even though it's called "slickdeals.net"? A little bias ...ehhh?
Aluvus
04-25-2005, 04:57 AM
Yeah...and I just placed it in my hand? WTF?
Your babble made little sense....and I see that you like the Lounge/Podium section of this site (post(s)) even though it's called "slickdeals.net"? A little bias ...ehhh?
...sigh...
The elements that you see in the Lounge/Podium are going to exist no matter what you do. Only Nazi-modding could fully remove them. And that, in turn, would drive away users. Which is bad.
Having the Lounge/Podium (and some other non-"deal" forums) shuffles non-deal discussion away from the serious business. It keeps the deal forums cleaner.
Yes, I post in the Lounge and Podium. And Tech Support, anslickdeals, and Site Suggestions & Problems. What of it?
Yeah...and I just placed it in my hand? WTF?
Your babble made little sense....and I see that you like the Lounge/Podium section of this site (post(s)) even though it's called "slickdeals.net"? A little bias ...ehhh?
slickdeals.net is a deal site - collecting links to "slick deals", online or otherwise
forums.slickdeals.net is an internet forum, a type of community where its members post stuff in a variety of categories, mostly deal-related. if you visit other forums (not just deal-related ones, say aximsite.com (http://www.aximsite.com) or whiteblaze.net (http://www.whiteblaze.net/)) - you'll find that many forums have an off-section, where members talk about non-forum specific stuff.
as for store/merchant reviews, if there are enough actual reviews we can change our product reviews forum to "merchant and product reviews". a new forum is usually formed when there is overflow of certain type of posts in other forums (example - black friday, tech support). other than rants on best buy or circuit city, i haven't seen that many merchant reviews.
mmathis
04-25-2005, 09:16 AM
Well, I started a review/rating thread for Best Buy here (http://forums.slickdeals.net/t95604.html?). Working on a CompUSA one now. Please add others!
XXnarg
04-25-2005, 12:15 PM
A vendor rating system needs to be more easily accessible than a thread format. The user needs to be able to look at an alphabetized list of vendors. Clicking on the vendor would bring up a standardized tally of plusses and minuses and ratings and finally, comments.
Threads are too hard to follow for most people and don't provided standardized categories of ratings, like customer service, product availability, return policy & performance, pricing, tech support, shipping, etc..
Threads are too haphazard to be considered as a meaningful competitive approach for vendor reviews.
kel_be
04-25-2005, 12:19 PM
A vendor rating system needs to be more easily accessible than a thread format. The user needs to be able to look at an alphabetized list of vendors. Clicking on the vendor would bring up a standardized tally of plusses and minuses and ratings and finally, comments.
Threads are too hard to follow for most people and don't provided standardized categories of ratings, like customer service, product availability, return policy & performance, pricing, tech support, shipping, etc..
Threads are too haphazard to be considered as a meaningful competitive approach for vendor reviews.
Then what is left to try. You pretty much smashed down every concievable tactic.
.The Boss
04-25-2005, 12:22 PM
mmathis, you have a great idea, but It does not provide enough options to pick from. Ex. Ease Of Use: 5-4-3-2-1 Product Availabiliy: 5-4-3-2-1 Delivery: 5-4-3-2-1 and others. We need Mr.SD's opinion if he is going to create a system or not.
Mr.SD can have a poll for each store. When you click a merchant at www.slickdeals.net, it should take you to that page where it has all the information about store ratings, you can rate, write review. Then there should be a link 'write review' where it takes you to the topic under that store name where you can post comments. Plus avatar, signatures, Join Date, Location, Posts, Ranks, Rep points should be disabled on those forum's review pages. We can link automatic links on forums to the page where it has the ratings. FW has the identical rating system.
.The Boss
04-25-2005, 12:23 PM
A vendor rating system needs to be more easily accessible than a thread format. The user needs to be able to look at an alphabetized list of vendors. Clicking on the vendor would bring up a standardized tally of plusses and minuses and ratings and finally, comments.
Threads are too hard to follow for most people and don't provided standardized categories of ratings, like customer service, product availability, return policy & performance, pricing, tech support, shipping, etc..
Threads are too haphazard to be considered as a meaningful competitive approach for vendor reviews.
Exactly what I'm saying. FW has similar rating system which is not hard to set up. They combined forums to post comments. And created a nice script for polling.
mmathis
04-25-2005, 01:04 PM
mmathis, you have a great idea, but It does not provide enough options to pick from. Ex. Ease Of Use: 5-4-3-2-1 Product Availabiliy: 5-4-3-2-1 Delivery: 5-4-3-2-1 and others. We need Mr.SD's opinion if he is going to create a system or not.
Yeah, definitely not enough rating options. But it is a start - perhaps if there is interest in these reviews/ratings, Mr SD will be more willing to look into better options?
XXnarg
04-25-2005, 04:26 PM
Then what is left to try. You pretty much smashed down every concievable tactic.Sorry, I don't mean to be too negative, but sometimes I come across that way.
caveat depascor
04-25-2005, 06:31 PM
Sorry, I don't mean to be too negative, but sometimes I come across that way.
"Humble Xnarg" I DON'T LIKE HIM! :lmao:
justme-
04-26-2005, 07:01 AM
IMHO, a site should focus on what it does best (i.e., slick deals) and let other sites do what they do best (Motley Fool for stock discussion, Reseller Ratings for vendor reviews, etc.).
If a site can do something outside their core purpose reasonably well, then there is justification, but it's not worth it to do something poorly when it is already done well by other sites.
:iagree:
We are not classified as "Slick Deals" site by PC MAG. Other sites that offers reviews needs users, and we have plenty of them.
Who cares? Other sites do a much better job of it than we could and we should let them do that. They get PAID to do that so let them. the mere mention of the site name in the magazine will drive traffic to us adding new users and adding 100x more "guests". I have seen some of the "other" deals sites and I am still here....
If this site is going to be considered "professional" by the likes of PC Magazine and if any of us,(well actualy MR. Slickdeals' opinion is the only that really matters on this issue) care then the Lounge, The Podium, and anything not directly related to deals has to go. Safety valve or not. There are rules, they are posted. If you consider strictly enforcing the rules as stated in the TOS to be "Nazi Modding" then so be it, but that kind of modding IS permissible and will not drive away anyone who is here for the deals, only those looking to mooch, bs, trash talk, and chat which is the content of the unrelated forums anyway. It's not like there aren't hundreds of chat places or tech support forums on the web or anything you know.
Remember 1+1=2. 1+.999999 doesn't cut it. Design the system for what you want, write the rules and enforce them and all will be well. If you allow less then good enough to enter the equasion you will NEVER equal the original intended result it doesn't matter what the situation.
.The Boss
04-27-2005, 11:47 AM
So, Is MR.SD going to say anything?
Royal2000H
04-27-2005, 01:11 PM
I didn't read all the posts....
but I like the idea.
Like I said somewhere else. PC magazine didn't give us 5 stars because we have/had a deal that gets PC mag for free :harhar: so they're jealous or mad or both.
slickdeals
04-28-2005, 05:55 PM
We can add a store rating much like product reviews but it will never be anything like resellerratings unless a significant amount of time is invested in coding & moderating. Also, price errors get posted here alot and it'lll spillover to the store ratings which is a huge mess to deal with. It's not as easy as it looks.
Resellerratings has been doing it for years and have the dedicated team & technical infrastructure already in place. So, they'll do a much better job.