View Full Version : Misuse of the term "shipped"
samuelk
01-09-2006, 10:40 AM
For months, I've been seeing people post deals like, "XXXX for $100 shipped after $50 rebate!"
The term "shipped" should be used only to indicate the price you pay for the item before rebates--the price you pay to have the item shipped to you.
For example, if a product sells for $199 with $10 shipping and has a $99 mail-in rebate, the product would be "$209 shipped", and not "$100 shipped with $99 mail in rebate".
The "shipped" price is the price you pay before any rebates. Of course if the rebate is instant, then the post-rebate price would be the shipped price, but mail-in rebates are not instant, so using the term "shipped" when posting an after-mail-in-rebate price is confusing and incorrect.
To give an example from the site, take this one (http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?threadid=181410): Seagate 300GB USB 2.0 External Hard Drive w/16MB Cache $150 shipped after rebate
Now, when I read that title and see "$150 shipped after rebate", sounds as though all I have to pay is $150 to get this harddrive (and that maybe the rebate is an instant rebate).
But the truth is I'd have to pay $189.00. The item actually costs $189.00 shipped. The $150 final price doesn't show up until I submit and wait for the rebate.
XXnarg
01-09-2006, 11:26 AM
I think some people use the term "shipped" to differentiate between prices that are inclusive of shipping costs and those that aren't.
The deal:
"$100 shipped AR$50"
could also be written:
"$140 plus $10 shipping minus $50 rebate net $100!"
Hopefully most people perceive these to mean essentially the same thing. The latter takes about twice as much space, which is not inconsequential when dealing with the space alloted to thread titles.
It's frustrating to get into a deal only to learn that shipping is an extra cost. Much ado has been made over deals that do not mention the full price including shipping in the title.
Full details should be posted inside OPs message, so we can learn how that deal is constructed, while the shorthand in the title motivates us to open the thread.
firsonce
01-09-2006, 12:24 PM
I think some people use the term "shipped" to differentiate between prices that are inclusive of shipping costs and those that aren't.
The deal:
"$100 shipped AR$50"
could also be written:
"$140 plus $10 shipping minus $50 rebate net $100!"
Hopefully most people perceive these to mean essentially the same thing. The latter takes about twice as much space, which is not inconsequential when dealing with the space alloted to thread titles.
It's frustrating to get into a deal only to learn that shipping is an extra cost. Much ado has been made over deals that do not mention the full price including shipping in the title.
Full details should be posted inside OPs message, so we can learn how that deal is constructed, while the shorthand in the title motivates us to open the thread.I think something that reads "Such and such $xxxAR Shipped" is both crisp and clear.
The character limit on thread title has no room for semantic debates.
arjunsr
01-09-2006, 01:02 PM
(and that maybe the rebate is an instant rebate).
go ahead and think that any mention of a AR price means that its a mir. hoping that its an IR will just lead to these frustating situations.
basics are its just hard to make that distinction.i think most people would like to see the net price than some temp price.
The Raddish
01-09-2006, 03:18 PM
I think something that reads "Such and such $xxxAR Shipped" is both crisp and clear.
The character limit on thread titles leave no room for semantic debates.
Fixed that for ya, since we are on the subject of semantics. :P
makdeca
01-09-2006, 04:01 PM
I think something that reads "Such and such $xxxAR Shipped" is both crisp and clear.
The character limit on thread titles leave no room for semantic debates.
Fixed that for ya, since we are on the subject of semantics. :PYours may arguably be more idiomatic, but any potential improvement it may have is eclipsed by the rather glaring grammatical mistake it contains. :bounce:
XXnarg
01-09-2006, 06:24 PM
Yours may arguably be more idiomatic, but any potential improvement it may have is eclipsed by the rather glaring grammatical mistake it contains. :bounce:"...more idiomatic..?"
A phrase is either idiomatic or it isn't. How can one wording be "more idiomatic" than another?
"He's dead. He's much deader than that other dead guy over there."
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b. Characterized by proficient use of idiomatic expressions: a foreigner who speaks idiomatic English.
2. Resembling or having the nature of an idiom.
3. Using many idioms.
4. Peculiar to or characteristic of the style or manner of a particular group or people.
MoreToys
01-09-2006, 06:34 PM
This thread is worthless and full of shipped.
When I look at the title, I want the priced sign, sealed and deliverd. The bottom line.