Deus Ex: Human Revolution

[appleyum]

http://gdc.gamespot.com/video/6253498/?hd=1
:woot:

[anticommon]

Looks interesting. This is the game about some kind of genetic engineering and whatnot? I know it's kinda obvious from the video, but I've heard little bits about the older games (can't be bothered to play them). Could someone sum up the plot line for the previous two games?

[godfather927]

been in the making for years, won't come out anytime soon, this is the GT5 of the PC world.

[IlluminatusCU]

Could someone sum up the plot line for the previous two games?

err... It's complicated.

Basically start from the premise that ever conspiracy theory ever was true. I played this game a long while back, so bear with me. The Illuminati have been running the world for centuries, until the Roswell landing proved that humans weren't alone in the universe. Because of this, a splinter group of the Illuminati called the Majestic 12 broke off and formed their own sub-group and started fighting with the Illuminati for control. By the time of the game, M12 has basically won. The UN has essentially become the one world government, and the United States has turned into a police state after a parade of horribles.

The M12, using the tech they are getting from the aliens, are dabbling in nanomachines which can make a person superhuman but can also be a very effective means of control. You and your "brother" are the first real working prototypes of the nanotech. You work for the UN's enforcement arm, and quickly learn that they are the real evil and you and your brother defect and join an underground resistance movement.

Long story short, at the end of the game you are presented with 3 choices. An AI named Helios wants to merge with your consciousness because it is concerned that human leadership will only lead to nuclear holocaust. Under a benevolent AI, you and Helios can rule the world intelligently (The "Metal Gear Solid 2" ending).

The Resistance wants you to destroy Area 51 because it is the center of M12's control of all the information flow in the world. Destroying it would cripple any attempts to take their spying international and allow people to live in true freedom for the first time in centuries (The "Tyler Durden" ending)

The Illuminati want to you allow them to seize control of Area 51 so that they can reclaim their place as the world leaders, with you as one of their members. They say they are attempting to herd humanity into a new age of enlightenment.

The sequel basically sucks and I won't get into it, but a mix of the AI and Illuminati endings is apparently canon. Denton merges with the AI, but the Illuminati gain control of Area 51 anyway, so now the fight is between Helios/Denton and the Illuminati for control. The choices of ending are basically the same, but now the human resistance has turned against all nano-augmented humans so if you choose them, they turn on you in the epilogue.

[appleyum]

Looks interesting. This is the game about some kind of genetic engineering and whatnot? I know it's kinda obvious from the video, but I've heard little bits about the older games (can't be bothered to play them). Could someone sum up the plot line for the previous two games?
The story is usually about how technology has taken over the world. And there are different group with different ideology on where the technology should go, control the world, hive mind, or back to dark age. You are in the center of it with your investigation while each group is trying to use you to their advantage. So in essence the plot line is similar to System Shock or Bioshock


Wikipedia is your friend
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deus_Ex#Synopsis

[Phrozt]

been in the making for years, won't come out anytime soon, this is the GT5 of the PC world.

Apparently you've never heard of duke nukem forever.

[godfather927]

Apparently you've never heard of duke nukem forever.

Not quite the same. This will come out, just not anytime soon, Eidos Montreal just has a backlog but are dedicated enough to complete this. DNF will live on forever as the definitive example of vaporware.

[appleyum]

Not quite the same. This will come out, just not anytime soon, Eidos Montreal just has a backlog but are dedicated enough to complete this. DNF will live on forever as the definitive example of vaporware.

:secret: It's still in development. :lol:

[XReflection]

They just released a new trailer.

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2010-deus-ex/100909

Looks sick.

[ZanDatsu]

^Most amazing video game trailer I have ever seen. Really stoked for the 2011 release.

[Illuminati4Hire]

Yeah, I saw this early this morning and...

SPLOOGE!

Yeah, absolutely amazing. Hope this one isn't another Invisible War.

[godfather927]

Good God I can not wait. It's been so freakin long. I just hope it's half the game the first one was.

[ZanDatsu]

2 New behind closed doors gameplay cam footage at E3

http://screwattack.com/videos/Behind-Closed-Doors-Deus-Ex-Human-Revolution-pt1/1#comment_470972

http://screwattack.com/videos/Behind-Closed-Doors-Deus-Ex-Human-Revolution-pt2

[godfather927]

2 New behind closed doors gameplay cam footage at E3

http://screwattack.com/videos/Behind-Closed-Doors-Deus-Ex-Human-Revolution-pt1/1#comment_470972

http://screwattack.com/videos/Behind-Closed-Doors-Deus-Ex-Human-Revolution-pt2

i cant see these, but is it FPS or 3PS?

actually, im getting a 404, so maybe they are bad links

[ZanDatsu]

Videos were removed by Edios. They were pulled on Youtube also. It was a great vid, lasted about 20 mins. Graphics were amazing. Its a FPS but theres a bit of third person thrown in when you take cover or do your takedowns.

[godfather927]

Videos were removed by Edios. They were pulled on Youtube also. It was a great vid, lasted about 20 mins. Graphics were amazing. Its a FPS but theres a bit of third person thrown in when you take cover or do your takedowns.

oh man... this is beginning to sound too good to be true. This could be my new favorite game of this generation or maybe even of all time, replacing the original.

I just hope Montreal Eidos can bring me back to that same level of immersion that was developed in the first game. From the pseudo-newspaper that was included in the PC game box, to all the little details of all the cities, and all the dialogue with the NPCs... as nerdy as it sounds, I actually felt like I was JC Denton when I played that game.

Here's to hoping the hype is justified.

[appleyum]

Videos were removed by Edios. They were pulled on Youtube also. It was a great vid, lasted about 20 mins. Graphics were amazing. Its a FPS but theres a bit of third person thrown in when you take cover or do your takedowns.
I was going to say...what's the point of close door if they have video of it.

[Illuminati4Hire]

Here are the vids:
http://www.gamingeverything.com/2010/6/20_minutes_of_deus_ex_human_revolution

Enjoy!

[Roland Deschain]

wow. great trailer

[appleyum]

Does the Hive bouncer have a shrunken head?

No one heard someone knocked down a wall? AI could use a bit of tweak

[appleyum]

Just saw this on the front page. For those who missed Deus Ex

Steam Powered has Deus Ex: Game of the Year Edition and Deus Ex: Invisible War for $2.50 each or you can buy both for $5.

http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2092764

[IPT]

Just saw this on the front page. For those who missed Deus Ex

Steam Powered has Deus Ex: Game of the Year Edition and Deus Ex: Invisible War for $2.50 each or you can buy both for $5.

http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2092764
in for one!
i was just about to post this lol

[godfather927]

the original had some mods out for it to update some of the graphics and textures. Makes replaying it a bit more tolerable.

[appleyum]

the original had some mods out for it to update some of the graphics and textures. Makes replaying it a bit more tolerable.
In that deal thread someone posted a link with detail on how to patch the graphics.

[thikthird]

when i get home i'll pick up invisible war. played part 1 years ago on ps2 but barely remember it. looking forward for human revolution.

[godfather927]

when i get home i'll pick up invisible war. played part 1 years ago on ps2 but barely remember it. looking forward for human revolution.

the first was a PC only game i thought... i was never aware they ported it. IW was the first Deus Ex game to hit consoles.

[thikthird]

http://ps2.ign.com/objects/016/016474.html

deus ex: the conspiracy

maybe it was #1 retitled?
iw hit xbox but not ps2. ps2 only got the conspiracy. seeing as it has the same box art as the first pc game, i'm guessing that was it.

[godfather927]

http://ps2.ign.com/objects/016/016474.html

deus ex: the conspiracy

maybe it was #1 retitled?
iw hit xbox but not ps2. ps2 only got the conspiracy. seeing as it has the same box art as the first pc game, i'm guessing that was it.

Yep, that was #1 retitled... had no idea that it made it to the PS2. what a phenominal game that was.

[thikthird]

if its so great how come i remember next to nothing about it?

[godfather927]

if its so great how come i remember next to nothing about it?

probably because you played it on an inferior platform :P

but seriously, it was one of the best PC games of all time, you must not have gotten very far

[Illuminati4Hire]

probably because you played it on an inferior platform :P

but seriously, it was one of the best PC games of all time, you must not have gotten very far

Indeed. Deus Ex, as far as I'm concerned, is the best game of all-time.

[thermoelectron]

$5 to add 2 more games into my continually growing backlog? so tempting.

[thikthird]

probably because you played it on an inferior platform :P

but seriously, it was one of the best PC games of all time, you must not have gotten very far
nah, i know i beat it.

[appleyum]

$5 to add 2 more games into my continually growing backlog? so tempting.

Quit posting and start playing :P

[godfather927]

The article is a few weeks old, but I just noticed it...

These days it seems that most triple-A release dates slip like a drunkard on wet stairs - Gears of War 3 being the latest casualty - but Eidos Montreal has promised that its forthcoming Deus Ex prequel will be bang on time.

Earlier this week, art director Jean Jacques-Belletete told VideoGamer.com that the studio was "very confident" that Human Revolution would arrive on schedule. We pushed further, asking if the game would definitely hit its appointed release next February.

"Yeah, yeah definitely," said Belletete. "For all sorts of reasons I'm not going to mention."

http://www.videogamer.com/news/deus_ex_will_definitely_hit_its_release_date.html

I'll believe it when I see it, but i'm cautiously getting excited for this, more so than I have for any other game since MGS4.

[Roland Deschain]

we're still looking at early 2011? :(

[godfather927]

we're still looking at early 2011? :(

art director said they'd be ready by Feb '11 and amazon shows feb28th

[Roland Deschain]

art director said they'd be ready by Feb '11 and amazon shows feb28th

:thanks:

sigh...four months to go....

[Haast]

The original is one of my all time favorites as well. I think the Mass Effect series is the first PC series to draw me in as much as the original Deus Ex. I hope Human Revo is as good as the original...

[godfather927]

The original is one of my all time favorites as well. I think the Mass Effect series is the first PC series to draw me in as much as the original Deus Ex. I hope Human Revo is as good as the original...

I'll be thrilled if it's even half as good. Invisible War was not nearly as good as the original and I still loved every minute of it.

[Haast]

I'll be thrilled if it's even half as good. Invisible War was not nearly as good as the original and I still loved every minute of it.

I have DE:IW on Steam, but I haven't gotten around to it yet. Perhaps I'll try to play both back to back before the new one releases. I tried (and failed) to do that with FO & FO2 before FO3. =)

[godfather927]

I have DE:IW on Steam, but I haven't gotten around to it yet. Perhaps I'll try to play both back to back before the new one releases. I tried (and failed) to do that with FO & FO2 before FO3. =)

I tried but the visuals haven't aged very well and I had a tough time getting over that (I'm a bit of a graphics whore.) Gameplay is still really good on the original even by today's standards... not as much with IW.

[Clivefrog]

I cannot farking wait for this game. I'll probably have to build a whole new computer to play it though :lol:

BUT I WILL!!

[appleyum]

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6284666.html?
Deus Ex: Human Revolution gets Augmented

Collector's edition of Square Enix sci-fi sequel includes art book, DVD for extra $10; retailers offering preorder add-on packs with new mission and weapons, in-game currency.

...

Square Enix today announced a premium Augmented Edition of the sci-fi sequel, as well as a pair of add-on packs that will be given to gamers who preorder from participating retailers. Retailing for $10 more than the standard edition of the game, the Augmented Edition bundle will include premium packaging for the game, a 40-page art book, a DVD with behind-the-scenes features, and a motion graphic novel included on a bonus disc.

As for the add-ons, GameStop has exclusive dibs on the Explosive Mission Pack. Players who preorder from the specialty retailer will get a new mission (with a cameo from original Deus Ex protagonist JC Denton), as well as in-game assists in the form of a grenade launcher, remotely detonated explosives, and an automatic unlocking device. Other participating retailers will be offering the Tactical Enhancement Pack, which includes a sniper rifle, a shotgun, and in-game credits that can be spent on augmenting the main character.

...

[trima]

I'm really starting to hate some of the pre-order bonus packs. Makes me feel like I am missing out on content.

[saxman717]

I'm really starting to hate some of the pre-order bonus packs. Makes me feel like I am missing out on content.

Sadly enough, it is one strategy to fight piracy....

[godfather927]

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6284666.html?

this might be the one and only game i ever buy a collectors edition for

[appleyum]

I'm really starting to hate some of the pre-order bonus packs. Makes me feel like I am missing out on content.

I rather they make it physical bonus instead of in-game bonus or have it available for purchase or later on free to all user.

[thermoelectron]

Sadly enough, it is one strategy to fight piracy....

You mean used game sales...

[trima]

I rather they make it physical bonus instead of in-game bonus or have it available for purchase or later on free to all user.

I am also ok with the bonus armors and weapons and non-game breaking stuff. The armors in Dragon Age and Mass Effect weren't even as good as some items you found in the game. But the extra missions and story based content really peeve me.

But as a general rule, I do agree with you. The physical bonus makes more sense, as it doesn't adversely affect the content value.

[saxman717]

You mean used game sales...

Yes, maybe more so that than piracy

[appleyum]

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6285481.html
...need for "further polish" means Human Revolution will miss Q1 2011 window.

This delay was "to spend additional time to further polish" the title, Square said. Talking to GameSpot, Square confirmed that the game was now due out before April 2012, but that no other release information was currently available.

...
April 2012 :bigeye:

http://ps3.gamespy.com/playstation-3/deus-ex-3/1140498p1.html
release sometime between April 2011 and March 2012.
I can't imagine Q1 2011 going to 2012...that's a lot of time to polish. At least they won't be releasing buggy version

[Haast]

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6285481.html

April 2012 :bigeye:

http://ps3.gamespy.com/playstation-3/deus-ex-3/1140498p1.html

I can't imagine Q1 2011 going to 2012...that's a lot of time to polish. At least they won't be releasing buggy version

Worst PR spin ever. There's clearly a major issue or decision they've decided not to share. Thanks for treating your customers like mouth-breathing neck-beards, Squenix.

[godfather927]

Just saw this on PC Gamer and was shocked that they have so much of the game completed despite needing "further polish."

http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/02/03/deus-ex-human-revolution-preview-first-hands-on/

New trailer is in there also.

[godfather927]

Square Enix lifted the embargo for 3 more hours in the PC Gamer review.

Has some interesting tidbits on gameplay and storyline. Sounds just as challenging as the first was.

http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/02/24/deus-ex-human-revolution-hands-on-the-first-three-hours/

[godfather927]

Release Date announced. Aug23 is the big day (not that this actually means anything in this industry as we all know by now.)

http://www.1up.com/news/deus-ex-human-revolution-dated

[godfather927]

Not quite the same. This will come out, just not anytime soon, Eidos Montreal just has a backlog but are dedicated enough to complete this. DNF will live on forever as the definitive example of vaporware.
So in an odd twist of fate... DNF is actually being released before DE:HR. Hilarious.

[godfather927]

PC hands-on review: http://games.on.net/article/12481/Hands-On_Deus_Ex_Human_Revolution_PC_Version

interesting new tidbits...
-full video options including directX 11 support
-dialogue wheel ala mass effect
-hacking minigame sounds cool
-long loading screens
-minor tracking issues when using a mouse
-in game real-time ads from a server (bummer)
-still needs "polishing" and place-holders for 360 controls make me nervous of a sloppy port despite their denials

[godfather927]

Well, I have some good news fellow deus ex fans. In case you haven't heard yet, a preview/beta build that was sent to various press agencies like 1up and pcgamer has been leaked on the internetz. After having just heard the news myself, I finally got around to mustering up the courage to acquire this and try it out for myself, after feeling like I couldn't wait anymore since the anticipation was killing me. I really did want to wait until launch day and not spoil the fun but i couldnt hold off any longer.

The good news is that this game is shaping up to be much more than I expected. The intro cutscenes and dialogue set the backdrop quite nicely and the visuals are pretty decent despite some early grumblings I've heard. They aren't cutting edge like Crysis but they are good enough to give the game a unique look and style.

I only played 20 min so far since i still havent decided how much of the game i want to spoil for myself but so far all I can say is that this game is looking like its going to be fvcking amazing. There's an office building where you look out the window and see the Detroit riverfront and city skyline, and I nearly shit my pants at how well it was recreated. The environments, music, and dialogue all blend perfectly to recreate that deus ex atmosphere that the first game did so well (and it actually gave me goosebumps, pretty gay, i know.) Needless to say, I've just pre-ordered the augmented edition on amazon (only $10 more than the standard and you actually get some pretty cool stuff with it.) If any of you are curious about this game or want to try it out after missing out on the first 2 games, this is something you should look into because I think it'll definitely impress you like it has others.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/110548-Leaked-Deus-Ex-Preview-Build-Impresses-Fans

[godfather927]

First review is out from PC Gamer UK

http://www.cinemablend.com/games/First-Deus-Ex-Human-Revolution-Review-Gives-Two-Thumbs-Up-33890.html

The eight-page review by Tom Francis states that Human Revolution "is absolutely the Deus Ex of our age, a genuinely worthy prequel, and a game that puts almost everything else in the genre to shame.” The game was given a score of 94.

"A dark, cool and beautiful revival of an incredible game," Francis adds. "Smart, substantial, funny, creative and endlessly entertaining.”

:yahoo:

[thermoelectron]

Review embargos are up..high scores all around..no surprise. I'm not going to read any of them until I've finished the game. I'm curious to see how my opinion of the game aligns with theirs as I've been pretty much in the dark about this game.

[thermoelectron]

http://www.abload.de/img/dxh10hjn3.jpg

Pretty neat artistic shot..

[godfather927]

Kotaku put together a composite from snippets of reviews from various sites: http://kotaku.com/5833215/deus-ex-human-revolutions-review-scores-are-perfectly-natural

Metacritic is still tabulating but the average is hovering around 90/100 so far.

[Clivefrog]

I have it pre-loaded and ready to go on Steam :woot2:

my computer barely meets the minimum requirements to play :woot2:

[thermoelectron]

So far so good in terms of PC port optimization. I've got everything cranked to max and I'm getting around 50 FPS at 1080p ... (5850+ Q9550)

[trima]

Yeah I didn't get a chance to play any last night after midnight or whatever. Hopefully when I get home today I'll be able to play. The only thing that concerns me is the recent RPS article on it. Apparently there's the option to use tranqs/emps/stun grenades but those still cause physical damage and don't impact the story line at all over say using guns only. Spoiler tags aren't working so I will try and be vague... The example given in the article is that if you kill X boss with only EMPs/Stun Grenades then he still falls over and bleeds out with bullet holes in a cutscene. Kind of annoying.

[SkeezaPleez]

Kotaku put together a composite from snippets of reviews from various sites: http://kotaku.com/5833215/deus-ex-human-revolutions-review-scores-are-perfectly-natural

Metacritic is still tabulating but the average is hovering around 90/100 so far.

I'm a little disappointed. I came in here half expecting to see you had jizzemed all over this thread.

[godfather927]

I'm a little disappointed. I came in here half expecting to see you had jizzemed all over this thread.
Well considering that I haven't played it yet, that would probably be a bit premature. tee hee
But I did have this little moment of orgasmic rejoice when i saw the first major review get released. http://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=41498274&postcount=60

[SkeezaPleez]

Well considering that I haven't played it yet, that would probably be a bit premature. tee hee
But I did have this little moment of orgasmic rejoice when i saw the first major review get released. http://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=41498274&postcount=60

Unfortunately I have no idea what the game is about. :lol:

But I'm glad for everyone involved that it's getting great reviews.

[godfather927]

Unfortunately I have no idea what the game is about. :lol:

But I'm glad for everyone involved that it's getting great reviews.
Think Fallout 3 but set in the near future where conspiracies, evil corporations, and people with robotic arms are not uncommon.

[thermoelectron]

Think Fallout 3 but set in the near future where conspiracies, evil corporations, and people with robotic arms are not uncommon.

I feel as though it's more Ghost in a Shell/Bladerunner/Minority Report than FO3 as FO3 is the future as envisioned in the 1950's.

Also, gameplay is supposed to be varied as you have many different options in attacking objectives (stealth/combat/hacking and variations in between).

[SkeezaPleez]

I feel as though it's more Bladerunner/Minority Report than FO3 as FO3 is the future as envisioned in the 1950's.

I think he was just trying to put it in video game terms(a game that I have played?)

[trima]

I feel as though it's more Bladerunner/Minority Report than FO3 as FO3 is the future as envisioned in the 1950's.
Sounds way more accurate to me as well. Although in that one demo video, they said, "but all of our customers are DoD." I actually said outloud, "you and everyone else in this economy." It was funnier in my head.

[godfather927]

I feel as though it's more Bladerunner/Minority Report than FO3 as FO3 is the future as envisioned in the 1950's.
I meant fallout 3 in terms of what type of game it is, ie FPS with RPG elements.

I think he was just trying to put it in video game terms(a game that I have played?)
:nod:

[thermoelectron]

I meant fallout 3 in terms of what type of game it is, ie FPS with RPG elements.

FO3 feels more like an RPG with FPS elements. Gunplay is more diceroll based and aiming can even be taken out of the equation with VATS. Also, the game is way more stat driven than what I've played of Deus Ex so far. Mechanically it feels closer to Mass Effect 2 (at least the gunplay).

[godfather927]

FO3 feels more like an RPG with FPS elements. Gunplay is more diceroll based and aiming can even be taken out of the equation with VATS. Also, the game is way more stat driven than what I've played of Deus Ex so far. Mechanically it feels closer to Mass Effect 2 (at least the gunplay).
Depends if you're talking about Deus Ex 1 or HR. If you recall, DE1 was very stat driven as well, but they switched to a more involved augmentation system in HR and removed stats. Also, when not using VATS, i didnt find the gunplay in FO3 to be that varied. Might be just me, though.

Either way, both games are pretty close to what HR will play like, but obviously it's unique in it's own right and that's what makes it so awesome.

[thermoelectron]

Depends if you're talking about Deus Ex 1 or HR. If you recall, DE1 was very stat driven as well, but they switched to a more involved augmentation system in HR and removed stats. Also, when not using VATS, i didnt find the gunplay in FO3 to be that varied. Might be just me, though.

Either way, both games are pretty close to what HR will play like, but obviously it's unique in it's own right and that's what makes it so awesome.

I was talking about HR (I've probably played an hour of the original DE and that was when it first came out). Gunplay in FO3 is terribad and I'm glad that HR doesn't have FO3's gunplay. Unless I was using Lincoln's Repeater to snipe (since it was the only hitscan weapon in the game), I pretty much relied heavily on VATS.

[highfloydelity]

Yeah I didn't get a chance to play any last night after midnight or whatever. Hopefully when I get home today I'll be able to play. The only thing that concerns me is the recent RPS article on it. Apparently there's the option to use tranqs/emps/stun grenades but those still cause physical damage and don't impact the story line at all over say using guns only. Spoiler tags aren't working so I will try and be vague... The example given in the article is that if you kill X boss with only EMPs/Stun Grenades then he still falls over and bleeds out with bullet holes in a cutscene. Kind of annoying.

In defense of the boss battles of Deus Ex: Human Revolution (http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2011/08/in-defense-of-the-boss-battles-of-deus-ex-human-revolution.ars)

I haven't read it but it address that very complaint.

[trima]

In defense of the boss battles of Deus Ex: Human Revolution (http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2011/08/in-defense-of-the-boss-battles-of-deus-ex-human-revolution.ars)

I haven't read it but it address that very complaint.
I liked that article up until this line:

The visible bullet holes shown in the cutscene even after you use nonlethal means are sloppy, but overall these boss encounters are simply another tool the game has to keep you guessing, and that's a good thing.

The idea that you are forced into violence is cool. The idea that you can beat him without violence at all and the devs were too lazy to rebake the cutscene is annoying. (This also makes it seem like Ars is harping on a false dichotomy) I just hope they didn't miss too many little things like that. It should be a good game regardless. Maybe we'll get lucky and the will release a mod kit and someone will fix the small inconsistencies.

[trima]

Seriously??? No windowed mode by default? I can't even add -window or -w or force it to be in windowed mode? So annoyed.

Edit: Also unskippable start up movies. I hope it doesn't feel as console portish after the start.

[thermoelectron]

The thing that's bother me the most so far is how horrible the cutscenes look. It's low-res and chocked full of compression artifacts.

[ashcampbell]

The real question needing answered...Is it PSN sharable? :)

[thermoelectron]

I'm enjoying the game so far...Unfortunately I'm also getting motion sick for some reason..

[godfather927]

Just played a couple hours. Amazing so far. I am getting an occasional stutter which is kinda getting irritating and I'm not sure if it's because my q6600 is bottle-necking my 6870, or because I'm not running directx 11, or because that's just the way the game is (unoptimized code for some areas or situations.)

Anyone else noticing some stuttering?

[Terminal]

Just played a couple hours. Amazing so far. I am getting an occasional stutter which is kinda getting irritating and I'm not sure if it's because my q6600 is bottle-necking my 6870, or because I'm not running directx 11, or because that's just the way the game is (unoptimized code for some areas or situations.)

Anyone else noticing some stuttering?

I get some stuttering mostly it seems when loading new zones.

i5-2500k @3.3ghz
16gb ram
GTX 570

So my guess is (since to ME it seems like loading into areas) bad loading of new areas. I dont find it alarmingly bad though. I just expect it when I'm sprinting to a new area.

Still sorta sucks, but besides that I have like this way more then the original.

[thermoelectron]

Turn off Vsync and Triple Buffering (if you have any of those on) in game. I force triple buffering through D3DOverrider

[trima]

Yeah, I had to turn off both of them as well. Especially Triple buffering. For whatever reason that caused alot of stuttering and screen tearing.

[godfather927]

Will do. Thanks for the feedback guys.

One question though, with setting Vsync OFF in game, wont that cause screen tearing as well? Or do you force it on through the GPU drivers?

[Entropic01]

Got the code for my copy last night as well as my new graphics card (that UPS literally threw to my upstairs condo) but gonna wait to install it while I continue troubleshooting my BSOD'ing computer. FML.

[thermoelectron]

Will do. Thanks for the feedback guys.

One question though, with setting Vsync OFF in game, wont that cause screen tearing as well? Or do you force it on through the GPU drivers?

Triple Buffering Vsync is essentially a better form of Vsync (it has a heavier memory requirement than double buffering b/c you store more frames which is why you don't see triple buffering used on console- on PC that requirement is negligible due to the high amount of RAM gaming PC's have in general.)

Anyways, I force triple buffering vsync using D3DOverrider (which I've set to launch at startup). It's compatible with almost every game I have (the exception being GTAIV). That way I don't ever have to mess with Vsync of Triple Buffering in the game options (just leave it unchecked) as D3DOverrider automatically does it for you.

Here's a really good post about Triple Buffering (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=366413)

How to install

Forcing Triple buffering in D3D games.

Now, the article has one glaring omission, and that's advice as to how to enable triple buffering in games that don't use OpenGL (an increasingly tiny minority these days) or explicitly include an option to enable it ingame. See, although your Nvidia and ATI control panel include to enable triple buffering in games, this setting only applies to OpenGL games, even though this may not be particularly clear.

This is where D3DOverrider comes in, as it allows you to force vsync and triple buffering in any game that uses Direct3D, which is the vast majority of games on the market today. It uses close to zero resources, is easy to use with both global and per application profiles available and I consider it to be one of the most essential programs for any self respecting PC gamer.

The program is installed in a package along with Rivatuner, which is another essential program for PC hardware enthusiasts as it allows you to do all manner of tweaking, OCing and monitoring and is useful for all manner of tasks. Download it here:

http://www.guru3d.com/index.php?page=rivatuner

Now, since D3DOverrider is a separate program you will need to launch it separately, on first launch, simply set:


"Start with Windows" to on
"Detection level" to medium
"Force Triple Buffering" to on
"Force Vsync" to on

I recommend that you do not force Vsync through your drivers in addition and just leave the setting to the default "application controlled."

Now when you launch a D3D game you should here a standard Windows success "beep" to indicate that triple buffering has been forced. Now, if for whatever reason this causes problems with a particular program, simply click the "Add profile" cross in D3DOverrider, navigate to the relevant game executable, and create a new profile with it, where nothing is forced on.

You can now enjoy all your games with a perfect tear free image but without the undesirable framerate and input latency hit that comes with vsync. Enjoy! :D

[godfather927]

Triple Buffering Vsync is essentially a better form of Vsync (it has a heavier memory requirement than double buffering b/c you store more frames which is why you don't see triple buffering used on console- on PC that requirement is negligible due to the high amount of RAM gaming PC's have in general.)

Anyways, I force triple buffering vsync using D3DOverrider (which I've set to launch at startup). It's compatible with almost every game I have (the exception being GTAIV). That way I don't ever have to mess with Vsync of Triple Buffering in the game options (just leave it unchecked) as D3DOverrider automatically does it for you.

Here's a really good post about Triple Buffering (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=366413)

How to install
Good to know. Will give it a shot when I get home. Thanks.

[sladeums]

Gamestop shenanigans with Deus Ex
http://www.1up.com/news/gamestop-removed-free-onlive-codes-pc-deus-ex
Those who opted for a physical copy of Deus Ex: Human Revolution were greeted with a pleasant surprise yesterday. Included with the retail game was a code that could be redeemed for a free OnLive copy -- unless, of course, the game was purchased at GameStop.

GameSpy reports it heard from multiple GameStop customers complaining about opened games and missing codes. It also heard from an anonymous source claiming to be a GameStop employee who passed along the note seen below. It shows what appears to be management instructing employees to remove and discard the OnLive codes from all PC copies of the game.

As outrageous as it sounds, a GameStop PR rep, Beth Sharum, confirmed that this was the case, telling GameSpy, "Square Enix packed the competitor's coupon with our DXHR product without our prior knowledge and we did pull and discard these coupons."

[thermoelectron]

Pretty shady, but GS just recently invested in game streaming service so it's kinda understandable why they did it.

[IlluminatusCU]

Pretty shady, but GS just recently invested in game streaming service so it's kinda understandable why they did it.

Understandable maybe. Acceptable no.

[fyu]

they can stop selling the game. but no way can they "repackage" a game as new. "refurbished" maybe

[thermoelectron]

Understandable maybe. Acceptable no.

Agreed, hence shady.

So I'm at a bit of a conundrum at this point. I'm an hour and a half in and I kind of already want to just start over as in the first mission, I got confused and didn't rescue the hostages. It's not so much that I didn't want to but rather I just couldn't find them. I followed the objective marker the whole time thinking it would lead me there.

I still don't undestand hacking in general. I'm just clicking on connecting paths.

[godfather927]

Understandable maybe. Acceptable no.
Agreed, if I'm paying $60 for a game labelled as "NEW" it better still have the shrink wrap on it and not have any of the contents removed regardless of who the retailer considers as a competitor.

[godfather927]

Agreed, hence shady.

So I'm at a bit of a conundrum at this point. I'm an hour and a half in and I kind of already want to just start over as in the first mission, I got confused and didn't rescue the hostages. It's not so much that I didn't want to but rather I just couldn't find them. I followed the objective marker the whole time thinking it would lead me there.

I still don't undestand hacking in general. I'm just clicking on connecting paths.

Two suggestions:

- Turn objective markers off, check your mission logs often for side quests, and explore as much as possible.
- Hacking was confusing to me at first too but then I started to understand the "strategy" of it (if you can call it that). With some practice on the harder ones, you'll get it eventually. See tips below once the hacking gets tougher.

My tips on DX:HR hacking:
-Basically, you have to find the path of least resistance from your originating node to the end node. Look over the network structure and choose a path by identifying and capturing the least secured nodes on your way to the end node.

-Here's something that I didnt realize until about my 10th hack attempt or so... You can capture and fortify multiple nodes simultaneously. I kept thinking I had to wait for one to finish before I started fortifying my originating node or capturing the next node but that's not the case.

-Wait to capture simultaneous nodes until the alarm is raised and the trace begins. Doing so prematurely can trigger the alarm and start the trace earlier than necessary

-Capturing Database nodes (cube icon) gives you bonus XP and worms to aid in future hacking attempts.

-Capturing Spam Bot nodes (gear icon) will slow the tracing attempts to allow you more time to finish hacking.

-If there are multiple paths to the end node, you can try taking both routes if you can juggle all the tasks at once. This supposedly exposes you to more risk of getting traced at those nodes, but I've found it to be very effective in some cases. If theres a single fortified node blocking two paths to the end node, you can converge on it from both paths to speed up the capturing.

-This might seem obvious but to avoid getting locked out that terminal, be prepared to disconnect just before your traced if you're in the middle of capturing the end node and you dont think you'll finish before time runs out

[SkeezaPleez]

they can stop selling the game. but no way can they "repackage" a game as new. "refurbished" maybe

Game Stop has been doing this for some time. Maybe not in the manner of swiping things from the packages(who knows) but they will open games and then sell them to customers for new, after their employees have previewed them personally. That's why I refuse to buy anything from Game Stop anymore, unless they have some ridiculous sale going on, which is still typically at higher prices then my local music/game store.

[Entropic01]

I don't shop at gamestop for a multitude of reasons

1) Horrendous customer service
2) Nasty films on everything from being touched a thousand times by little kids
3) High prices

/waiting on IPT to come to GS rescue

[godfather927]

I don't shop at gamestop for a multitude of reasons

1) Horrendous customer service
2) Nasty films on everything from being touched a thousand times by little kids
3) High prices

/waiting on IPT to come to GS rescue
:lol:

[Phrozt]

Understandable maybe. Acceptable no.

What alternative would you suggest?

It's just an ugly situation overall...

[SkeezaPleez]

What alternative would you suggest?

It's just an ugly situation overall...

I don't think opening up every copy of the game and pulling something from them is the answer.

It's sad that people still accepted their "new" copies that way.

[Phrozt]

I don't think opening up every copy of the game and pulling something from them is the answer.

It's sad that people still accepted their "new" copies that way.

but how do they solve it? I mean.. I get the fact that they don't want to be distributing a competitor's copy of the game...

[godfather927]

but how do they solve it? I mean.. I get the fact that they don't want to be distributing a competitor's copy of the game...
Like someone already said, don't sell them as NEW but as Used or Opened with a $5 discount. They can always pull it from the shelves entirely and refuse to sell it until the pub removes the code themselves. If they don't want to do that, well then they can cross their fingers that people don't start catching on to the fact that they're not actually getting what they paid for.

[thermoelectron]

Like someone already said, don't sell them as NEW but as Used or Opened with a $5 discount. They can always pull it from the shelves entirely and refuse to sell it until the pub removes the code themselves. If they don't want to do that, well then they can cross their fingers that people don't start catching on to the fact that they're not actually getting what they paid for.

Agreed...There's a shopworn discount that they should apply.

[thermoelectron]

Apparently GS is now deleting all customer reviews of DE with any mention of the Onlive gutting on their site.

[dealwars]

but how do they solve it? I mean.. I get the fact that they don't want to be distributing a competitor's copy of the game...

They should have refused to sell it at all.

As it is, PC boxed copies of DXHR come with two licenses:

1 Steam, 1 OnLive

Both are full version licenses.

GameStop pulled one of those two licenses, without telling the consumer, and sold it on as if nothing had been removed. In short, you were supposed to get two copies of the game, but GameStop made sure you only got one.

Honestly though, they just made a great opening for anyone who bought with a credit card.

Since GameStop delivered an incomplete product (not as advertised), anyone who bought the PC version would have the right to demand one of the following:

1) GameStop provide an OnLive code
2) GameStop offer a full refund

If GameStop refused to do either, you would be well within your rights to claim a chargeback through your CC company.

[thermoelectron]

http://www.abload.de/img/dxhr2011-08-2417-48-13dulu.png

[godfather927]

Triple Buffering Vsync is essentially a better form of Vsync (it has a heavier memory requirement than double buffering b/c you store more frames which is why you don't see triple buffering used on console- on PC that requirement is negligible due to the high amount of RAM gaming PC's have in general.)

Anyways, I force triple buffering vsync using D3DOverrider (which I've set to launch at startup). It's compatible with almost every game I have (the exception being GTAIV). That way I don't ever have to mess with Vsync of Triple Buffering in the game options (just leave it unchecked) as D3DOverrider automatically does it for you.

Here's a really good post about Triple Buffering (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=366413)

How to install
Playing with the Vsync and Triple Buffering settings (among others) didnt help at all. I even downclocked my CPU back to stock speeds and still nothing. Seems like its not that uncommon...

http://forums.eidosgames.com/showpost.php?p=1657593&postcount=38
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2075294

Sounds like it's possibly related to directx 9.

My best guess is that most people are running it with dx11 or just arent noticing it but it's clear as day once you get to the point where you can roam the streets of Detroit. In particular, I notice it occur very frequently when sprinting from the LIMB clinic to the the basketball court behind the abandoned gas station on 2nd street.

[thermoelectron]

Playing with the Vsync and Triple Buffering settings (among others) didnt help at all. I even downclocked my CPU back to stock speeds and still nothing. Seems like its not that uncommon...

http://forums.eidosgames.com/showpost.php?p=1657593&postcount=38
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2075294

Sounds like it's possibly related to directx 9.

My best guess is that most people are running it with dx11 or just arent noticing it but it's clear as day once you get to the point where you can roam the streets of Detroit. In particular, I notice it occur very frequently when sprinting from the LIMB clinic to the the basketball court behind the abandoned gas station on 2nd street.

Why are you using DX9 in the first place? I thought you had a DX11 card?

[thermoelectron]

http://i.imgur.com/tuhEI.jpg

Lol at the 3 seashells.

[trima]

I would probably be further along if the game if I didn't waste time: hacking into every single person's office in the main building, and playing parkour across the rooftops to see if I can make ridiculous jumps.

Also I spent a good 10 minutes trying to play basketball with the hobos.

[Kleborg]

I would probably be further along if the game if I didn't waste time: hacking into every single person's office in the main building, and playing parkour across the rooftops to see if I can make ridiculous jumps.

Also I spent a good 10 minutes trying to play basketball with the hobos.


Same here, I have to hack every terminal I come to and get all the bonuses.

[godfather927]

Why are you using DX9 in the first place? I thought you had a DX11 card?
I tried installing it but it said it was not applicable to my OS, apparently because it has to be installed on Vista SP2. And let's just say that I dont have SP2 on Vista because I cant install it from windows updates for a certain reason :pirate: i'm a sinner

[godfather927]

http://i.imgur.com/tuhEI.jpg

Lol at the 3 seashells.
:lmao::lmao::lmao:

A Demomlition Man reference in a Deus Ex game? If that's not GOTY worthy than I dont know what is!

:worship:

[trima]

Also, if you are bored the voice actor for Jensen answered a ton of questions on reddit.

http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/jtkmk/hey_guys_i_am_the_actor_who_plays_adam_jensen_in/

Bah, he only answered a few of the questions, he was more active on twitter. Too bad I don't really use twitter. Oh well. It was cool to think that voice is just his natural voice. He sounds like Batman.

[Phrozt]

Also, if you are bored the voice actor for Jensen answered a ton of questions on reddit.

http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/jtkmk/hey_guys_i_am_the_actor_who_plays_adam_jensen_in/

Bah, he only answered a few of the questions, he was more active on twitter. Too bad I don't really use twitter. Oh well. It was cool to think that voice is just his natural voice. He sounds like Batman.

I like how the most popular post is all about Nathan Fillion and Marky Mark.

[SkeezaPleez]

:lmao::lmao::lmao:

A Demomlition Man reference in a Deus Ex game? If that's not GOTY worthy than I dont know what is!

:worship:

Maybe if it included some Wesley Snipe.

[Entropic01]

I don't shop at gamestop for a multitude of reasons

1) Horrendous customer service
2) Nasty films on everything from being touched a thousand times by little kids
3) High prices

/waiting on IPT to come to GS rescue
:lol:

Guess I predicted it in the wrong thread. :nod:

[godfather927]

Guess I predicted it in the wrong thread. :nod:
Haha yep! I was gonna reply in this thread with a link to his posts in the other one but I was lazy and didnt want to incite his rage any further.

[thermoelectron]

Actually kinda glad there's another thread for GS discussion. I'm sure there'll be plenty to discuss for DE.. I didn't even realize that this game is a prequel to the original..

[SkeezaPleez]

Have you guys heard anything as far as the total playing time, start to finish? Is there any replayability? This game has mildly piqued my interest.

[godfather927]

Actually kinda glad there's another thread for GS discussion. I'm sure there'll be plenty to discuss for DE.. I didn't even realize that this game is a prequel to the original..
Yep, there's references to Tracer Tong (the bonus mission) and Bob Page later in the game. Also, the novel written alongside the game (Icarus Effect) features Gunther Hermann as a supporting character.

[godfather927]

Have you guys heard anything as far as the total playing time, start to finish? Is there any replayability? This game has mildly piqued my interest.
Depends on how many side quests you embark on and finish, or whether you stick to the main missions (kinda like FO3.) I've heard some reports of 20-25 hours and some as high as 40. Replayability would be minimal i'd think for anyone who's not a hardcore fan of the series, but it does have a branching storyline and different endings so you could theoretically start over and play it a few different ways to see how the story unfolds if you make different decisions as you progress (kinda like Heavy Rain.)

[thermoelectron]

Have you guys heard anything as far as the total playing time, start to finish? Is there any replayability? This game has mildly piqued my interest.

I heard it's about 20 hours for one playthrough. There's potential for multiple playthroughs since I'm seeing multiple ways/different paths to tackle objectives already pretty early on. My only concern really is that graphically it's a bit inconsistent. The character models/animations are a bit gross. The textures are a bit on the low res side (of course the last AAA title I played was Witcher 2, so it's probably not a fair comparison) and I don't like the yellow filter at all. The cutscenes look worse than the in game renderings due to their compression method. But despite my criticisms, the game is better than the sum of its parts.

[trima]

I just want to disable the head bobbling. Holy mother of Odin if my neck moved that much when I walked my head would fall off at the end of the day.

[madadd]

I heard it's about 20 hours for one playthrough. There's potential for multiple playthroughs since I'm seeing multiple ways/different paths to tackle objectives already pretty early on. My only concern really is that graphically it's a bit inconsistent. The character models/animations are a bit gross. The textures are a bit on the low res side (of course the last AAA title I played was Witcher 2, so it's probably not a fair comparison) and I don't like the yellow filter at all. The cutscenes look worse than the in game renderings due to their compression method. But despite my criticisms, the game is better than the sum of its parts.

I noticed the cutscenes looked bad also. I'm glad I am not the only one I was starting to think it was all in my head. I actually have had a few lock ups and crash to desktop on the cutscenes but the game itself runs perfectly fine. I have disable the triple buffering and that seems to have fixed my crash to desktop problem on the cutscenes. I have a 6950 I am not sure why I was getting the crashes. I must say in my limited play time I am really enjoying the game.

[sladeums]

patch is up for all you pc dudes


http://store.steampowered.com/news/6146/
This latest patch addresses:

- A frequent issue for AMD/ATI hardware users that can cause the game to crash on startup.
- Improvements to loading speed. The speed increase depends on machine spec and settings, but loading time improvements of over 50% have been measured on some machines.

- Some control fixes:
- Diagonal movement is no longer faster as intended.
- Adjustments have been made to mouse sensitivity in response to user feedback.
- Mouse sensitivity for X and Y axis can still be configured separately, but is now consistent when set to default settings.
- The range of settings for mouse sensitivity has been adjusted to provide for more accurate adjusting.
- The default mouse sensitivity has been altered to be somewhat less sensitive.

[godfather927]

patch is up for all you pc dudes
damnit, nothing on the stuttering issue yet. :mad:

[Clivefrog]

This game is sooooo much fun. I've put about 6 hours in so far. I'm so happy a real Deus Ex sequel (well, prequel) came out. I just wish my new computer case would come soon so I can finish building my new computer and play this game with nice graphics. I have all the graphics on low at the moment :(

That patch took out the faster diagonal movement :lol: A lot of people aren't going to like that. Glad to hear about the mouse sensitivity fixes.

[PRINTABLECOUPON]

dangit stuck on first boss i didn't pick up enough weapons and now i'm stuck like chuck any cheat codes out for unlmited ammo?

[DoYouRemix]

I'm glad a lot of yall are digging the game but the 2011 disappointments are continuing for me. This game didn't do it for me at all. I played for a few hours and nothing about it was fun. The lack of transition between third person and first person made my head hurt, the story wasn't interesting, and on top of that I was always out of ammo.

The next game to potentially disappoint me - Warhammer 40k Space Marine.

[That1fool]

I am totally loving this game so far, mainly because it allows you to do everything using nothing but stealth.

I haven't used a gun yet the whole time and I'm abour 7 hours into the game.

[trima]

Lmao I love the people running out of ammo. Did you guys even play the first Deus Ex. I'll give you a hint. Don't fight people unless you have ammo, lots of it.

You do know this isn't a gung ho FPS, right?

[thermoelectron]

Lmao I love the people running out of ammo. Did you guys even play the first Deus Ex. I'll give you a hint. Don't fight people unless you have ammo, lots of it.

You do know this isn't a gung ho FPS, right?

The only time I've fired a gun last night in my hour or so playthrough was when I accidently discharged my firearm in the ventilation shaft of the police station in an attempt to pop some pills. Not slick at all...

Outside of that I'm trying to play the espionage route where I try to avoid conflict and talk/sneak through situations. My first 2 points were put into maxing out the conversation system as well as hacking to lvl 3.

[DoYouRemix]

Lmao I love the people running out of ammo. Did you guys even play the first Deus Ex. I'll give you a hint. Don't fight people unless you have ammo, lots of it.

You do know this isn't a gung ho FPS, right?

I know now. Being sneaky all the time bores me. I guess I'll go play Bulletstorm again.

[thermoelectron]

I know now. Being sneaky all the time bores me. I guess I'll go play Bulletstorm again.

It's not so much about being sneaky as it is about using everything at your disposal (conversation/hacking/stealth/combat) as well as exploring the environment. This game feels like a throwback to late 90's game design where there was tons of backtracking and multiple paths within a level.

[trima]

I know now. Being sneaky all the time bores me. I guess I'll go play Bulletstorm again.
It's just not a primary FPS. If you want to kill people, you have to find creative ways to do it, find your ammo, find/buy better guns, and use all the skills at your disposal. It's not just run in and headshot, regen health, pick up respawning infinite ammo etc.

[Clivefrog]

Do you guys know if items you drop ever disappear? I don't want to waste praxis points on increasing inventory space. I wouldn't mind making a little item cache somewhere on the map where I can go back and forth, getting whatever I need.

[SkeezaPleez]

The only time I've fired a gun last night in my hour or so playthrough was when I accidently discharged my firearm in the ventilation shaft of the police station in an attempt to pop some pills. Not slick at all...



I'm not familiar with the game, but I still lol'd at this. :lmao:

[thermoelectron]

I'm not familiar with the game, but I still lol'd at this. :lmao:

Yeah, switched to pills and left clicked twice (there wasn't any indication I took the pill). Suddenly my character drew his pistol, squeezed out a round and the whole compound went berserk MGS style...

[sladeums]

Do you guys know if items you drop ever disappear? I don't want to waste praxis points on increasing inventory space. I wouldn't mind making a little item cache somewhere on the map where I can go back and forth, getting whatever I need.

stuff stays where you drop it

so drop anywhere you believe you can return to

[sladeums]

heads-up if you preordered from Amazon...they just posted this :

http://www.amazon.com/Pre-order-Credit-Update/forum/FxDH2R318V9MYO/Tx2NT27W7C0FFRZ/1

All customers who had pre-ordered the standard edition of "Deus Ex: Human Revolution" by 8/22/11 will get the $20 promotional credit. You should have received a $10 promotional credit when the game shipped, and we are working on having an additional $10 credit applied to your account.

-Amazon.com's Video Games team


edit:
that probably means some of the complainers will get $30

[Clivefrog]

stuff stays where you drop it

so drop anywhere you believe you can return to

thanks!

[godfather927]

heads-up if you preordered from Amazon...they just posted this :

http://www.amazon.com/Pre-order-Credit-Update/forum/FxDH2R318V9MYO/Tx2NT27W7C0FFRZ/1



edit:
that probably means some of the complainers will get $30
titties!

So after the $20 in credit, and selling the OnLive code for $25 after fees, I pretty much only paid $5 for the game. I heart you amazon!

[thermoelectron]

Ok...fark Barret...The first boss fight is probably the most infuriating thing known to man. Not only is this guy cheap as hell, but the fight pretty much does the controls a huge disservice...

[Ockhum]

Ok...fark Barret...The first boss fight is probably the most infuriating thing known to man. Not only is this guy cheap as hell, but the fight pretty much does the controls a huge disservice...


Just pick up some frags and a couple of mines and either put them together and then throw it at his feet or equip a shotty and shoot him in the face.

The mine/frag idea is a lot easier and I never even got shot since I just mined him when the cut scene ended...(a little too cheap though) :(

[XReflection]

Ok...fark Barret...The first boss fight is probably the most infuriating thing known to man. Not only is this guy cheap as hell, but the fight pretty much does the controls a huge disservice...
Just pick up some frags and a couple of mines and either put them together and then throw it at his feet or equip a shotty and shoot him in the face.

The mine/frag idea is a lot easier and I never even got shot since I just mined him when the cut scene ended...(a little too cheap though) :(

I stuck with gas/emp for all three boss battles to stun them then just pumped them full of whatever I found to work best.

For some reason I feel like the 10mm pistol is the best weapon in the game once you upgrade it fully. It's so accurate with the laser sight and headshots kill with one hit. It's awesome.

[sladeums]

Ok...fark Barret...The first boss fight is probably the most infuriating thing known to man. Not only is this guy cheap as hell, but the fight pretty much does the controls a huge disservice...

be cheaper

one strategy here ...
bout 30 seconds, using what's in the room; no equipment required
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsa5Z4wvoa8

[AZImmortal]

If I upgrade a weapon and I sell or drop it, then the next time that I come across that weapon, will it be equipped with the upgrades or will it be completely stock?

[godfather927]

If I upgrade a weapon and I sell or drop it, then the next time that I come across that weapon, will it be equipped with the upgrades or will it be completely stock?
If you upgrade a particular weapon with a mod, it becomes unique. If you drop it or sell it, and then pick up another one, it will be stock and the mod will not apply to all future weapons of the same kind.

[godfather927]

A pretty cool video about the tech in Deus Ex and what's possible today:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW78wbN-WuU

A must-see for anyone nerdy enough to be interested in some of the science behind the augmentations from the game.

[trima]

Ok...fark Barret...The first boss fight is probably the most infuriating thing known to man. Not only is this guy cheap as hell, but the fight pretty much does the controls a huge disservice...

I had like 8 bullets in that force/tranq shotgun thing. PEPS or something? That took him out by itself. Between that and you could shock him with the hand held stun gun thing. I just wish it would let me punch his ass.

[trima]

How may bosses have you guys fought? I finished the second last night. It was a surprising disappointment for how much it was talked up/alluded to. 10 tazer shots. Maybe I should stop using that thing it seems way too overpowered. I think it would even work for hard mode. Might actually make my play it again.

[IlluminatusCU]

Anyone have the 360 version? Is it worth getting or should I hold off until I can build a new PC?

[thermoelectron]

I haven't seen the console version but I'm not super impressed with the PC version of this game TBH from a graphical standpoint...Yes, there's ambient occlusion and DX11 support but the textures and animation in general just look subpar. This game doesn't strike me as a system builder...

[XReflection]

Just beat the game last night. I recorded all 4 endings. I think I'll upload them. I will likely also upload videos of me beating the second through last bosses. But I have to say that Barett is probably the hardest boss of all of the bosses. It's much harder to run from a guy with a minigun, lol.

[trima]

Really? I thought the 3rd was the hardest, but I guess that depends. I am not much further than the 3rd boss guy yet.

[godfather927]

Anyone have the 360 version? Is it worth getting or should I hold off until I can build a new PC?
Get it for 360. Awesome game so far and improvements in PC version are probably minor. Not sure how easy hacking would be on a controller but otherwise I'd say theres not much point into building a new PC unless you wanted to play something like BF3 on it as well.

[XReflection]

Really? I thought the 3rd was the hardest, but I guess that depends. I am not much further than the 3rd boss guy yet.

I think part of it depends on what kind of gear you have when you fight each boss. For the 2nd and 3rd bosses, EMP and gas grenades/mines do wonders. I also found the laser rifle to be extremely useful/effective in the 3rd boss. (The third boss is the muscley guy right?)

[Roland Deschain]

Anyone have the 360 version? Is it worth getting or should I hold off until I can build a new PC?


I have the x360 version. Cut scenes look like garbage. Not very far into the game though in terms of storyline I have a minor issue with the way the game plunges into the story..it felt a bit abrupt IMO.

I'm going to restart from the beginning tonight....I've yet to clear the first level.

[XReflection]

I have the x360 version. Cut scenes look like garbage. Not very far into the game though in terms of storyline I have a minor issue with the way the game plunges into the story..it felt a bit abrupt IMO.

I'm going to restart from the beginning tonight....I've yet to clear the first level.

It's possible that the PC cut scenes may not look that much better. They are pre-rendered videos and they are all glowy and sometimes pixelated looking.

[madadd]

Get it for 360. Awesome game so far and improvements in PC version are probably minor. Not sure how easy hacking would be on a controller but otherwise I'd say theres not much point into building a new PC unless you wanted to play something like BF3 on it as well.

I've actually been playing the PC version with the 360 controller and I have found the controls to be very responsive with the controller even the hacking is pretty easy. I normally would never suggest a controller for a fps type game but since this game relies so heavily on stealth and less on shooting I switched to the controller after an hour or so of playing. I find it easier for me to move with the stick than with keys so that was the reason for the switch. Ideally it would be perfect for my G13 and mouse but they don't have a profile for it yet and I have not had time to sit down and make one.

[godfather927]

I've actually been playing the PC version with the 360 controller and I have found the controls to be very responsive with the controller even the hacking is pretty easy. I normally would never suggest a controller for a fps type game but since this game relies so heavily on stealth and less on shooting I switched to the controller after an hour or so of playing. I find it easier for me to move with the stick than with keys so that was the reason for the switch. Ideally it would be perfect for my G13 and mouse but they don't have a profile for it yet and I have not had time to sit down and make one.
I was torn at first too after tinkering with remapping my keys several times to find something practical and that aligned well with the cover system. But in the end, using long range weapons (tranq rifle, crossbow, and longsword) was too difficult with the controller. Specifically, you need to be pretty accurate with the tranq rifle and crossbow due to the drop of the darts/bolts and you have to lead the target. There's a targeting mod to help with this, but I found it much easier to use with the mouse than a controller.

[Roland Deschain]

It's possible that the PC cut scenes may not look that much better. They are pre-rendered videos and they are all glowy and sometimes pixelated looking.


I will definitely be giving this game a fair shake but to be completely honest about the graphics...they straight upset me. Not sure how graphics (especially if they are cut scenes) of such disgusting quality can be approved and allowed to be presented to the masses. Whatever...with that said...I'm looking forward to checking out the gameplay and the intriguing storyline.

[trima]

I think part of it depends on what kind of gear you have when you fight each boss. For the 2nd and 3rd bosses, EMP and gas grenades/mines do wonders. I also found the laser rifle to be extremely useful/effective in the 3rd boss. (The third boss is the muscley guy right?)

I killed him with a stun gun. Yeah, that's how I roll. Also, spoiler: I had gotten the upgrade so my shit was all wonky too. I basically had to get him on a jump wall loop and taze him over and over. I think it took around 12 of em. Very annoying.

[madadd]

I was torn at first too after tinkering with remapping my keys several times to find something practical and that aligned well with the cover system. But in the end, using long range weapons (tranq rifle, crossbow, and longsword) was too difficult with the controller. Specifically, you need to be pretty accurate with the tranq rifle and crossbow due to the drop of the darts/bolts and you have to lead the target. There's a targeting mod to help with this, but I found it much easier to use with the mouse than a controller.

I can see that. I am still pretty early in the game (just a bit past the first boss) I have had to put the controller down once and use the mouse when I was in a heavy firefight but for the most part the controller has been fine. My gun of choice is mostly the first pistol you get and once you start upgrading that specifically with the laser, aiming becomes very easy even with the controller for single targets but multiple targets still has me using the mouse. I've also used the machine gun some in heavy fights and the sniper rifle twice but I've dumped the sniper rifle in my apart because it takes up way to much inventory space.

[XReflection]

I killed him with a stun gun. Yeah, that's how I roll. Also, spoiler: I had gotten the upgrade so my shit was all wonky too. I basically had to get him on a jump wall loop and taze him over and over. I think it took around 12 of em. Very annoying.

Wait: so you basically glitched him out? lol. How many times did it take you to do that? XD I didn't upgrade the chip, because I remembered reading somewhere in a comment or something that it was bad, lol. so I didn't take it. Glad I didn't. Sooo much easier using tracking/xray vision

I can see that. I am still pretty early in the game (just a bit past the first boss) I have had to put the controller down once and use the mouse when I was in a heavy firefight but for the most part the controller has been fine. My gun of choice is mostly the first pistol you get and once you start upgrading that specifically with the laser, aiming becomes very easy even with the controller for single targets but multiple targets still has me using the mouse. I've also used the machine gun some in heavy fights and the sniper rifle twice but I've dumped the sniper rifle in my apart because it takes up way to much inventory space.

I fully upgraded the pistol. It's a beast of a weapon. I also kept the sniper rifle. By the end of the game, I had the pistol, PEPS gun, sniper, heavy rifle, plasma rifle and stun gun lol. I don't know why I carried the heavy rifle. I only ever used it in boss fights. I also never used the plasma rifle, lol. Spoiler: PEPs gun is really useful in the last level if you want to forgo stealth.

[godfather927]

I can see that. I am still pretty early in the game (just a bit past the first boss) I have had to put the controller down once and use the mouse when I was in a heavy firefight but for the most part the controller has been fine. My gun of choice is mostly the first pistol you get and once you start upgrading that specifically with the laser, aiming becomes very easy even with the controller for single targets but multiple targets still has me using the mouse. I've also used the machine gun some in heavy fights and the sniper rifle twice but I've dumped the sniper rifle in my apart because it takes up way to much inventory space.
Yeah same here. It sucks because it would've come in handy a couple times already. I have some spare praxis points i was holding on to that I might just dump into augmenting my arms to increase my inventory space.

[madadd]

Wait: so you basically glitched him out? lol. How many times did it take you to do that? XD I didn't upgrade the chip, because I remembered reading somewhere in a comment or something that it was bad, lol. so I didn't take it. Glad I didn't. Sooo much easier using tracking/xray vision



I fully upgraded the pistol. It's a beast of a weapon. I also kept the sniper rifle. By the end of the game, I had the pistol, PEPS gun, sniper, heavy rifle, plasma rifle and stun gun lol. I don't know why I carried the heavy rifle. I only ever used it in boss fights. I also never used the plasma rifle, lol. Spoiler: PEPs gun is really useful in the last level if you want to forgo stealth.

Lol I have not even found most of those guns PEPS, Plasma, and Stun I have yet to find though I have seen ammo for all of them. I really need to start searching around more.

Yeah same here. It sucks because it would've come in handy a couple times already. I have some spare praxis points i was holding on to that I might just dump into augmenting my arms to increase my inventory space.

Yea I really liked the sniper rifle but I needed the inventory I like having lots of ammo on me even though I have hardly needed it. I used the sniper rifle on the side mission where you have to talk to the 2 drug dealers. I climbed a fire escape took care of the drug dealers and there 2 thugs. The whole thing was done in under 20sec I just didn't feel like having a long conversation with them.

[XReflection]

Lol I have not even found most of those guns PEPS, Plasma, and Stun I have yet to find though I have seen ammo for all of them. I really need to start searching around more.



Yea I really liked the sniper rifle but I needed the inventory I like having lots of ammo on me even though I have hardly needed it. I used the sniper rifle on the side mission where you have to talk to the 2 drug dealers. I climbed a fire escape took care of the drug dealers and there 2 thugs. The whole thing was done in under 20sec I just didn't feel like having a long conversation with them.

I think the thing I always came up short on was the energy bars. Ammo was usually an issue with the stun gun and the pistol for me. I rarely used the other weapons. spoiler: Only time I used the sniper rifle was to save Malik.

Also, put a laser on all the guns that can take one. It makes whatever weapon have it shoot where the laser points. Especially for the sniper, it makes the weapons more useful (its not as useful on the heavy rifle, lol).

[godfather927]

I think the thing I always came up short on was the energy bars. Ammo was usually an issue with the stun gun and the pistol for me. I rarely used the other weapons. Only time I used the sniper rifle was to save Malik.

Also, put a laser on all the guns that can take one. It makes whatever weapon have it shoot where the laser points. Especially for the sniper, it makes the weapons more useful (its not as useful on the heavy rifle, lol).
:(

guess i'll have to stay out of this thread until i get a bit farther in the game.

[XReflection]

:(

guess i'll have to stay out of this thread until i get a bit farther in the game.


Ooo. I'm sorry. I didn't realize that would be a spoiler >_>. my bad :(...

[trima]

Wait: so you basically glitched him out? lol. How many times did it take you to do that? XD I didn't upgrade the chip, because I remembered reading somewhere in a comment or something that it was bad, lol. so I didn't take it. Glad I didn't. Sooo much easier using tracking/xray vision



I fully upgraded the pistol. It's a beast of a weapon. I also kept the sniper rifle. By the end of the game, I had the pistol, PEPS gun, sniper, heavy rifle, plasma rifle and stun gun lol. I don't know why I carried the heavy rifle. I only ever used it in boss fights. I also never used the plasma rifle, lol. Spoiler: PEPs gun is really useful in the last level if you want to forgo stealth.

In response to the spoiler: Yeah, if you just stay in the middle really close to the wall he will just jump over it, then I would taze him and run to the other side immediately. He would then jump back over and repeat the process like he was a moron. It would hav been way easier if I had not taken the upgrade, since I could have just run up and typhooned him a few times.

As far as the guy saying he runs out of energy, just take the upgrades for energy regen speed. The last cell never fully depletes and if it will regen fast enough you can just use it over and over again. At least, that's how I did it.

[godfather927]

Ooo. I'm sorry. I didn't realize that would be a spoiler >_>. my bad :(...
It wasn't much of one really but it's a reminder that I shouldn't risk it any further. More so my fault for not being as hardcore as I used to be. I should be farther than I am (finally got to Barrett) but I havent had the time to sit down for more than an hour or so a night.

[madadd]

How exactly does the energy work? I've been trying to figure it out with no luck. I have 3 battery's showing but 2 of them are always empty. Every time I go into stealth or use a stealth attack it drains my one battery bar then I have to sit and wait for it to refill. What is the point of upgrading the energy if those other battery bars never refill? The only time I have ever seen any energy in those 2 other battery's was when I ate something and I have not seen enough food laying around to continue eating things to refill those bars.

[XReflection]

How exactly does the energy work? I've been trying to figure it out with no luck. I have 3 battery's showing but 2 of them are always empty. Every time I go into stealth or use a stealth attack it drains my one battery bar then I have to sit and wait for it to refill. What is the point of upgrading the energy if those other battery bars never refill? The only time I have ever seen any energy in those 2 other battery's was when I ate something and I have not seen enough food laying around to continue eating things to refill those bars.

Recharge only refills the current battery you are on. If you have a partially filled 2nd or 3rd battery, it will recharge that one. Once a battery completely depletes, it will not recharge and must be replenished with the bars/protein things. The exception is the first battery. That will always replenish, so you are not completely screwed out of energy. Food stuffs are not the most common item around. But if you search you can find a bunch. You can also buy from the LIMB clinics. But the idea is to restrict your use of the takedowns and stuff so you don't just run around in cloak all the time/knockout everyone.

[trima]

Recharge only refills the current battery you are on. If you have a partially filled 2nd or 3rd battery, it will recharge that one. Once a battery completely depletes, it will not recharge and must be replenished with the bars/protein things. The exception is the first battery. That will always replenish, so you are not completely screwed out of energy. Food stuffs are not the most common item around. But if you search you can find a bunch. You can also buy from the LIMB clinics. But the idea is to restrict your use of the takedowns and stuff so you don't just run around in cloak all the time/knockout everyone.

If you take the battery recharge upgrades, it takes all of 2 seconds to regen. Along with the stealth upgrade, it's 7 seconds invisible to 2 or 3 down. That's more than enough for 99% of the game for me. Half the time I don't even need to use the tazer or tranq rifle. I got the 50 takedown achievement fairly quickly. I might play through again for the 50 kill one.

[madadd]

Recharge only refills the current battery you are on. If you have a partially filled 2nd or 3rd battery, it will recharge that one. Once a battery completely depletes, it will not recharge and must be replenished with the bars/protein things. The exception is the first battery. That will always replenish, so you are not completely screwed out of energy. Food stuffs are not the most common item around. But if you search you can find a bunch. You can also buy from the LIMB clinics. But the idea is to restrict your use of the takedowns and stuff so you don't just run around in cloak all the time/knockout everyone.
If you take the battery recharge upgrades, it takes all of 2 seconds to regen. Along with the stealth upgrade, it's 7 seconds invisible to 2 or 3 down. That's more than enough for 99% of the game for me. Half the time I don't even need to use the tazer or tranq rifle. I got the 50 takedown achievement fairly quickly. I might play through again for the 50 kill one.

Ok got it that makes sense thanks guys. So upgrading the battery recharge seems far more important than upgrading the amount of charge you can hold.

[trima]

Ok got it that makes sense thanks guys. So upgrading the battery recharge seems far more important than upgrading the amount of charge you can hold.

Only if you want to take it slow and methodical. If you want to drop down and take out 10 people in a row you better have 5 bars and the 2 person knockdown upgrade.

[Clivefrog]

Icarus Landing is so much fun :D

[IlluminatusCU]

I have the x360 version. Cut scenes look like garbage. Not very far into the game though in terms of storyline I have a minor issue with the way the game plunges into the story..it felt a bit abrupt IMO.

I'm going to restart from the beginning tonight....I've yet to clear the first level.

How bad are we talking here? The first Deus Ex didn't really capture me because of its graphics either. I'm gonna buy the game regardless, I'm just curious what you mean.

[That1fool]

Finished the game Saturday, easily my favorite game this year. Even more than Portal 2.

The game was pretty easy though, so I will probably play it again on "Give me Deus Ex"

[Clivefrog]

yeah, i'm ~15 hours in and my guy is wayyy overpowered already. and i'm pure stealth. i'm on normal difficulty. will do "deus ex" difficulty when i have my new computer built :nod:

[trima]

Yeah, I really didn't like the ending. I might have to wait a while before I play it again. It was very cheesy and (excuse the terrible pun) deus ex machina. I could have done without that.

[Roland Deschain]

How bad are we talking here? The first Deus Ex didn't really capture me because of its graphics either. I'm gonna buy the game regardless, I'm just curious what you mean.


gameplay graphics are ok.

cut scene graphics reminded me of Xbox (the original one).

[godfather927]

pretty funny review of the original http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/61949/Zero-Punctuation-Does-Deus-Ex-No-Human-Revolution-Here

[Jeezus]

has anyone played dues ex yet?

how big of an rpg element is in the game?

[anticommon]

I just started playing the other day (2 hours in maybe?) and so far the story seems pretty linear. Perhaps after a few introductory levels it will branch out into more of an RPG fashion. Regardless this game is awesome.

[XReflection]

Lol..there is a thread already...with tons of people who've played...

But the RPG element is not very advanced. You get experience for completing tasks. You level up and get praxis (skill) points. You use those skill points to get augmentations (skills). There are also side quests like in other RPG's. The game is not as open ended as, say, Final Fantasy (bar FFXIII).

[IPT]

http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?sduid=252036&t=1917682

[godfather927]

After finally making it to China, I found this thread to be kinda interesting:

http://boards.ign.com/deus_ex/b5627/205012097/p1/?5

[homer2324]

as a consumer, is there reason i have to buy new for this game?

do i lose anything by buying used?

[godfather927]

as a consumer, is there reason i have to buy new for this game?

do i lose anything by buying used?
Not that I know of. There were some pre-order bonuses for in-game items or missions but those were only at certain retailers so you should be able to by used now and not miss out on anything compared to buying it new.

[Clivefrog]

beat the game last night :woot:

[thermoelectron]

Debug Menu Unlocked (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=443511)

http://forums.eidosgames.com/showpost.php?p=1674466&postcount=1

Features:

Chapter select
Map select
Replay all the cutscenes
Play the E3 demo
Tweak Gameplay options (no health regeneration!, infinite ammo, etc), AI options, etc
"Shop" any and all weapons and augmentations you want

http://www.abload.de/img/dxhr2011-09-0402-40-379k1a.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/dxhr2011-09-0402-40-419jry.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/dxhr2011-09-0402-40-5558yo.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/dxhr2011-09-0402-40-56qkxc.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/dxhr2011-09-0402-41-55jjc4.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/dxhr2011-09-0402-42-053kye.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/dxhr2011-09-0402-42-38e8i0.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/dxhr2011-09-0402-42-46o8d1.jpg



Instructions:

Download http://mod.gib.me/deusex3/no-intro+map-select+debug-menu.7z and extract it to the game's directory replacing the patch0.000 file.
Then the Debug Menu can be accessed through the Pause menu (press Escape) at any time.

The modding has just begun!

Word has it that all the preorder DLC weapons can be unlocked as well...no news on the preorder DLC quest though.

[Entropic01]

Just started playing this game on my PC. Despite playing it on PC, I was trying to play it on my 360 controller and couldn't stand the default mapping. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like it will allow you to remap the controls either. :(

Who the fark makes run left bumper and ADS right stick click? :vomit: I quit after an hour after hating the controls so much. Maybe I'll actually have to break down and use KBM.

[trima]

The default KBM controls are fairly awful too, but thankfully you can change them. It has right click as the default sneak/hide. I kept hiding when I was trying to aim and it was awful.

[thermoelectron]

The default KBM controls are fairly awful too, but thankfully you can change them. It has right click as the default sneak/hide. I kept hiding when I was trying to aim and it was awful.

Yeah, I changed it to alt and toggle instead of hold...Hold to stick to cover just sucks in general. I hated it in KZ2 and DE just reaffirmed it for me.

[godfather927]

Just started playing this game on my PC. Despite playing it on PC, I was trying to play it on my 360 controller and couldn't stand the default mapping. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like it will allow you to remap the controls either. :(

Who the fark makes run left bumper and ADS right stick click? :vomit: I quit after an hour after hating the controls so much. Maybe I'll actually have to break down and use KBM.
I thought about using a controller also after struggling with the cover system at first, but aiming with the mouse proved to critical in many instances throughout the game later on (especially with the tranq rifle.) I also dont know how easy hacking would be with a controller since i find myself scrambling to quickly click on all the nodes to capture and fortify them before i'm traced.

[XReflection]

Debug Menu Unlocked (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=443511)



Word has it that all the preorder DLC weapons can be unlocked as well...no news on the preorder DLC quest though.

Nice, will have to try that when I get home...after I workout and play dead island xD

[madadd]

I got to put in several hours on the game this weekend. I now find myself getting in more direct combat than sneaking around. I think it is mostly because I'm really enjoying the combat. I like the cover system and have pretty much stopped using the controller and stick to the mouse. On a side note this is the first time I have ever made use of the the Steam Cloud save game and I love it! I went on a bit of a vacation and grabbed my laptop to take with me. Since I spent most of the time stuck inside (thanks tropical storm lee!!). I was so pleased when I went to load up the game on my Steam account and sure enough I could continue my game just like I was on my home computer and when I got home my save game was right there I continued where I left off on my laptop with no issues what so ever.

[sladeums]

if you preordered from Amazon check your emails.

the second $10 credit Amazon promised was emailed as a gift card and not an automatic credit.

[godfather927]

if you preordered from Amazon check your emails.

the second $10 credit Amazon promised was emailed as a gift card and not an automatic credit.
Yep just saw this. 2 cheers for amazon! :woot:

On a side note, I finally beat it. Pretty cool ending cut-scenes.

[trima]

Yep just saw this. 2 cheers for amazon! :woot:

On a side note, I finally beat it. Pretty cool ending cut-scenes.

Really? The ending was my least favorite thing of the entire game.

[godfather927]

Really? The ending was my least favorite thing of the entire game.
I didn't like how the endings played into the story. Everything seemed rushed and EM has mentioned that they aspired for more but had to settle for less (due to timing, budget, etc.)

*spoilers may be forthcoming*


The whole button choice thing was very lame. But what I meant was that I liked the cut scenes in general (aside from the game) and thought the dialog was pretty cool. Made me reflect on what's in store of us in the future, my views on what is "natural" and what makes someone human, and made the story seem like an allegory for things like stem cell research, cloning and etc.

The plot of the game itself towards the end was pretty sketchy though and the storyline wasnt as strong as I was hoping. The whole thing with Megan and the motives behind the antagonists were poorly written I thought. Dont get me wrong, I still loved the game, but i had lofty expectations that it would be my favorite game this gen. That title still belongs to MGS4 for now.

All in all though, i still think an 8.5 or 9 out of 10 is about what I'd rate it. It's not often that I'll pour 40+ hours into a single player game and beat it within 2 weeks of getting it.

[momsbasement]

Just bought this based on the FP deal.

I read a review mentioning that if you don't pick the correct augmentations before boss battles you have no chance of beating the boss - did you guys feel this was the case?

[trima]

No, I beat all the bosses in the worst possible way, with the tazer. I did it on regular difficulty though. There's also online videos showing you how to beat each boss with only the things located in the room you are in.

[momsbasement]

Good to know, I really didn't want to have to refer to a guide prior to each upgrade.

[Fordified]

Ahhh, I'm fighting the addiction... want to play this... want to level in BFBC2... Ugh! Why so little time?

BTW, I've barely even scratched the surface of the game but I've been exploring the crap out of everything. Is there any benefit to trying to go into absolutely everybody's office or trying to go into everybody's room or fetching things. Will it make the game better in the long run or am I wasting a lot of time on the petty things? If it makes the game better (i.e. gives a better ending or makes me stronger) I don't mind all the side stuff, however if it's just a big time waste and for those who are just die hard fans, I can do without it. Thoughts please :)

P.S. of course, please answer without spoiling the game.

[Voodoo22007]

Ahhh, I'm fighting the addiction... want to play this... want to level in BFBC2... Ugh! Why so little time?

BTW, I've barely even scratched the surface of the game but I've been exploring the crap out of everything. Is there any benefit to trying to go into absolutely everybody's office or trying to go into everybody's room or fetching things. Will it make the game better in the long run or am I wasting a lot of time on the petty things? If it makes the game better (i.e. gives a better ending or makes me stronger) I don't mind all the side stuff, however if it's just a big time waste and for those who are just die hard fans, I can do without it. Thoughts please :)

P.S. of course, please answer without spoiling the game.

I didn't and everything went fine for me, but then again I had heard how great the storyline is so I put it on the easiest setting and played for the enjoyment of the story.

This game was absolutely amazing. Anyone think there will be a sequal for DE:HR that's still a prequal to the first DE?

[Fordified]

I didn't and everything went fine for me, but then again I had heard how great the storyline is so I put it on the easiest setting and played for the enjoyment of the story.

This game was absolutely amazing. Anyone think there will be a sequal for DE:HR that's still a prequal to the first DE?

Thanks, I appreciate the info. Maybe I'll skip some of this side stuff and get back to the action/creeping around. I haven't even gotten to the RPG element part of the game.

[XReflection]

Thanks, I appreciate the info. Maybe I'll skip some of this side stuff and get back to the action/creeping around. I haven't even gotten to the RPG element part of the game.

The RPG element would be the leveling up, at leas that was my understanding. You haven't leveled up yet? lol

And going into everyone's office and hacking every computer is not necessary, but sometimes you can get useful info, like keycodes. Most of the time its just stuff to enrich the world and give you a better understanding of whtas going on in the story.

[Fordified]

The RPG element would be the leveling up, at leas that was my understanding. You haven't leveled up yet? lol

And going into everyone's office and hacking every computer is not necessary, but sometimes you can get useful info, like keycodes. Most of the time its just stuff to enrich the world and give you a better understanding of whtas going on in the story.
Correct, I have not levelled up. I have played to the point where the 3 police guys are waiting outside this door waiting on me to go in. I just got off the helicopter with the boss character.


LoL, I thought the three guys in the room were baddies so I tranq'd one and one of the other guys ran over to check on him while the third cop just fired at me and killed me... Did anyone else have that experience? All the douchebag things the cop said on the rooftop pissed me off so I took that anger into the door off of the rooftop landing and shot the first questionable character I saw.

Also, Jensen's voice is very gravel-ly, as if he has been gargling gravel in his throat before his voice overs. I like the voice I just never expect it. Sounds like a guy who has been through a lot.

Another thing, does anyone else think his arms remind you of the arms on the Crysis character?

I agree with everyone on the PC controls tera-bad! I'll have to see about updating them when I get home. Which segue's into this: has anyone used or tried to use their Logitech G13 with the game? I can't seem to get mine to work. It doesn't recognize it at all.

[XReflection]

Correct, I have not levelled up. I have played to the point where the 3 police guys are waiting outside this door waiting on me to go in. I just got off the helicopter with the boss character.


LoL, I thought the three guys in the room were baddies so I tranq'd one and one of the other guys ran over to check on him while the third cop just fired at me and killed me... Did anyone else have that experience? All the douchebag things the cop said on the rooftop pissed me off so I took that anger into the door off of the rooftop landing and shot the first questionable character I saw.

Also, Jensen's voice is very gravel-ly, as if he has been gargling gravel in his throat before his voice overs. I like the voice I just never expect it. Sounds like a guy who has been through a lot.

Another thing, does anyone else think his arms remind you of the arms on the Crysis character?

I agree with everyone on the PC controls tera-bad! I'll have to see about updating them when I get home. Which segue's into this: has anyone used or tried to use their Logitech G13 with the game? I can't seem to get mine to work. It doesn't recognize it at all.



Oh you haven't gotten far at all, lol. I didn't run into that issue with the shooting of the cops, haha. I did restart from a checkpoint and didn't diddle dallie back at Serif and just went straight to the heli. The attitude of the cops changes if you don't dick around in the beginning.

I agree on the appearance of the arms. The controls I didn't think were that bad on PC, lol.

[Fordified]

Oh you haven't gotten far at all, lol. I didn't run into that issue with the shooting of the cops, haha. I did restart from a checkpoint and didn't diddle dallie back at Serif and just went straight to the heli. The attitude of the cops changes if you don't dick around in the beginning.

I agree on the appearance of the arms. The controls I didn't think were that bad on PC, lol.
Okay maybe not tera-bad, but definitely have to change the left-click control to not be the crouch/hide button. Scope was like middle mouse or something crazy like that.

Noted: If you don't dick around the cops are nicer... which seems backwards since the developers put all that side stuff in you would think they would reward you with high fives and pizza slices or something.

[XReflection]

Okay maybe not tera-bad, but definitely have to change the left-click control to not be the crouch/hide button. Scope was like middle mouse or something crazy like that.

Noted: If you don't dick around the cops are nicer... which seems backwards since the developers put all that side stuff in you would think they would reward you with high fives and pizza slices or something.

I don't know if you noticed but the serif dude (david? I think?) tells you to hurry up, then if you wait longer befor going to the heli, hes like something bad happened. If you get that, then the cops are pissed because they couldn't rescue the hostages.

[Aluvus]

Okay maybe not tera-bad, but definitely have to change the left-click control to not be the crouch/hide button. Scope was like middle mouse or something crazy like that.

If you are using the default controls, left click should fire your weapon. Crouch is 'c'; right click takes cover. Middle-button for scope is a pretty common setup.

Noted: If you don't dick around the cops are nicer... which seems backwards since the developers put all that side stuff in you would think they would reward you with high fives and pizza slices or something.
Given that you are preventing them from defusing a hostage situation, I would say "annoyed you made them wait" is the more realistic reaction. There is plenty of time to wander around afterward.

[Fordified]

If you are using the default controls, left click should fire your weapon. Crouch is 'c'; right click takes cover. Middle-button for scope is a pretty common setup.


Given that you are preventing them from defusing a hostage situation, I would say "annoyed you made them wait" is the more realistic reaction. There is plenty of time to wander around afterward.

I meant right-click whoops. For the record, right click is typically scope not middle button.

I didn't know if I would be able to return because I have no idea where the game takes me in the next part so I did everything I could. If there was some sort of indication that I would return, I would have moved quickly to the objective, but alas.

[IlluminatusCU]

So I finally got the game (painfully late, considering my avatar), and so far it looks good. I'm only on the first mission after you are augmented and I have two observations

1) This game seems to have borrowed a lot of the elements of Robocop

2) the lead art designer has a fetish for the color gold.

That is all. Great game so far. :D

[momsbasement]

I played for a short while before work this morning and really dig the cinematics. I enjoy the "play a little, then do the intro" thing.

Just landed outside of the first level and was short on time so I threw a barrel at the cop and got killed, so now I have to ask that dude the questions again.

Y to aim or was it the right click, maybe that's why I got killed? Do not like.

[godfather927]

I played for a short while before work this morning and really dig the cinematics. I enjoy the "play a little, then do the intro" thing.

Just landed outside of the first level and was short on time so I threw a barrel at the cop and got killed, so now I have to ask that dude the questions again.

Y to aim or was it the right click, maybe that's why I got killed? Do not like.
Do they give you the option to remap the buttons on 360 or are you stuck with right click being aim?

[momsbasement]

Do they give you the option to remap the buttons on 360 or are you stuck with right click being aim?

I didn't see anything available in the options menu when I tried to remap (just the basics like horiz/vert sensitivity, vibration, etc.)

[Clivefrog]

2) the lead art designer has a fetish for the color gold.


get it right, it's called a piss filter! :P

enjoy the game. you'll notice references to the first deus ex scattered throughout :nod:

[sladeums]

got the Platinum on this yesterday.
was a pretty easy one.

would probably have to say this is the best game i've played so far this year.

[godfather927]

got the Platinum on this yesterday.
was a pretty easy one.

would probably have to say this is the best game i've played so far this year.
:iagree:

[thermoelectron]

ENB series developer has released a graphics mod that among other things, has gotten rid of the piss filter. The only caveat is that right now it only works on nVidia cards.

Source (http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/09/22/deus-ex-human-revolution-mod-augments-visuals-lighting-improved-fist-chisels-shinier/)

http://media.pcgamer.com/files/2011/09/Deus-Ex-Human-Revolution-unmodded-6.jpgvshttp://media.pcgamer.com/files/2011/09/Deus-Ex-Human-Revolution-modded-6.jpg

http://media.pcgamer.com/files/2011/09/Deus-Ex-Human-Revolution-unmodded-1.jpgvshttp://media.pcgamer.com/files/2011/09/Deus-Ex-Human-Revolution-modded-1.jpg

[thermoelectron]

I finally beat it tonight. I actually kinda enjoyed the last boss fight since there was so much variety in what you could do but as usual like most games this gen, the ending was much to be desired. Overall I enjoyed it.

[swedgamer]

I must say best game of 2011 but stay tuned for BF3, MW3 maybe they will crush Deus ex totally, maybe not

[Entropic01]

I finally beat it tonight. I actually kinda enjoyed the last boss fight since there was so much variety in what you could do but as usual like most games this gen, the ending was much to be desired. Overall I enjoyed it.

Just for you Thermo:

Those Horribad Deus Ex: Human Revolution Boss Battles Were Outsourced

http://kotaku.com/5841910/those-horribad-deus-ex-human-revolution-boss-battles-were-outsourced

[IlluminatusCU]

So I finally finished the game (Deus Ex difficulty is hard)

Spoilers
I'm of two minds about the plot. I liked the idea that they were trying to use the aug chips to control everyone, but I wasn't sure how much I liked it that Darrow basically ripped off Ra's Al Ghul's plot from Batman Begins. The last level turning into a Zombie mode was quite bizarre IMO.

Also, I wanted some more closure from the Megan Reed storyline. The strong implication is that her entire relationship with Jensen was a sham but I never got the option to call her out on this and get a response.