CBS Poll: Most Want GOP to Keep Fighting on Health Bill

[DarthSaver]

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20001117-503544.html

A CBS News poll released Wednesday finds that nearly two in three Americans want Republicans in Congress to continue to challenge parts of the health care reform bill.

The Senate version of the legislation was passed by the House Sunday night, and President Obama signed it into law on Tuesday. The House also passed a separate reconciliation bill, which cannot be filibustered, that is now being debated in the Senate. That bill would make changes to the bill already signed into law.

Senate Republicans are now challenging whether the bill is truly a budget reconciliation bill (which is what makes it filibuster-proof) and inserting amendments designed to slow down passage. Republican attorneys general are also planning to challenge the constitutionality of the law.

The poll finds that 62 percent want Congressional Republicans to keep challenging the bill, while 33 percent say they should not do so. Nearly nine in ten Republicans and two in three independents want the GOP to keep challenging. Even 41 percent of Democrats support continued challenges.

Americans are split about the fact that the bill largely lacked bipartisan support. Fifty percent said they were disappointed that the bill did not have support from both parties, while 44 percent said that it doesn't matter.

Most see the bill as an important achievement for the president. Fifty-two percent called passage a major accomplishment for Mr. Obama, up from 46 percent before Sunday's vote. Thirteen percent called it a minor accomplishment, and 32 percent said passage was not an accomplishment.

For the new poll, CBS News re-interviewed 649 adults interviewed just before the House vote in a CBS News poll conducted March 18-21. The findings suggest an improvement in perceptions of the legislation: While 37 percent approved of it before the vote, 42 percent approved afterward.

http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim//2010/03/24/image6330002.gif


Not looking good for the new socialist party, previously known as the Dems. So much for passing it and putting it behind them. Wait until they reconcile Crap and Trade and other major UNPOPULAR legislation.

[Candide]

These early polls aren't important. No one is all that sure what's been passed. I'm very interested in seeing what the polls say next month.

[Ryu-bom]

:yawn::yawn::yawn:

Even liberals didn't need to start so many useless post, and this was when Bush was out starting false wars and causing massive deaths which was FAR FAR more worst and evil

[Dr. J]

:yawn::yawn::yawn:

Even liberals didn't need to start so many useless post, and this was when Bush was out starting false wars and causing massive deaths which was FAR FAR more worst and evil

Can you enlighten us what "false wars" have to do with a poll on healthcare?

[Ryu-bom]

Can you enlighten us what "false wars" have to do with a poll on healthcare?

conservatives have no clue to the meaning of "priorities"

[Dr. J]

conservatives have no clue to the meaning of "priorities"

Is 20 pound for the weight like 30 pounds if a guy lifts?

[cruizerfish]

Ram it down!

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Senate-will-have-to-return-apf-151614587.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=1&asset=&ccode=


Senate's fix to health care law slowed by snag
Senate fix-it bill changing new health law hits snag, must return to House for final approval
Associated Press Writer, On Thursday March 25, 2010, 9:40 am

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Brushing off a snag in the Senate, House Democratic leaders said they are prepared to finish work by late Thursday on a package of fixes to the big health care law signed by President Barack Obama.

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer said in a statement Thursday morning that if the Senate finishes its work by the afternoon, as expected, the House will immediately take up the bill. Democrats are saying they do not expect any major problems -- but they're also keeping their fingers crossed.

"The Senate is expected to complete work this afternoon on the improvements bill to the new health care reform law," said Hoyer, D-Md. "If they finish their work later today as planned, the House will take up the improvements bill with technical corrections this evening."

After nine straight hours of beating back Republican amendments, Senate Democrats hit a temporary snag in the nighttime hours early Thursday. They had hoped to complete work on the fix-it bill by midday Thursday and get it quickly to Obama without changes to avoid prolonging what has been a politically painful ordeal for the party.

But Republicans learned early Thursday they will be able to kill some language in the bill that relates to Pell grants for low-income college students. That means the altered bill will have to be returned to the House for final congressional approval before it can be sent to Obama.

Democrats described the situation as a minor glitch, but did not rule out that Republicans might be able to remove additional sections of the bill.

The president, who signed the landmark legislation into law on Tuesday, was flying to Iowa later in the day for the first of many appearances around the country to sell his health care revamp before the fall congressional elections.

Obama was appearing in Iowa City, where as a presidential candidate in 2007 he touted his ideas for health coverage for all. His trip comes as polls show people are divided over the new health law, and Democratic lawmakers from competitive districts hope he can convince more voters by November that it was the right move.

As an exhausted Senate labored past 2 a.m. on a stack of GOP amendments, Jim Manley, spokesman for Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, told reporters that Republicans consulting with the chamber's parliamentarian had found "two minor provisions" that violate Congress' budget rules.

Republicans have been hunting for such violations in hopes of bringing down the legislation. Democrats had also been consulting with the parliamentarian, Alan Frumin, and hoped they had written a measure that would not be vulnerable to such problems.

The two provisions are expected to be formally removed from the bill on Thursday. Manley said he expected the Senate to approve the measure without them and send it to the House. He said Senate leaders, after conversations with top House Democrats, expect the House to approve the revised measure.

The Senate scheduled passage of the health bill for Thursday afternoon. Both chambers are hoping to begin a spring recess by this weekend.

Besides reshaping parts of the landmark health overhaul, the legislation transforms the federal student loan program -- in which private banks distribute the money -- into one in which the government issues the loans directly. That produces some federal savings, which the bill uses in part to increase Pell grants to needy students.

Democratic aides said the problematic provisions deal with safeguarding students from future cuts in their grants if Congress does not provide enough money for them. The provisions violate budget rules because they do not produce savings, one aide said.

The development came as the Senate completed nine hours of uninterrupted voting on 29 GOP amendments to the legislation. Majority Democrats defeated every amendment.

The legislation would change the new health care law by making drug benefits for Medicare recipients more generous by gradually closing a gap in coverage, increasing tax subsidies to help low-income people afford health care, and boosting federal Medicaid payments to states.

It kills part of the new statute uniquely giving Nebraska extra Medicaid funds -- designed to lure support from that state's Sen. Ben Nelson -- that had become a glaring embarrassment to Democrats. It also eases a new tax on expensive health coverage bitterly opposed by unions and many House Democrats, while delaying and increasing a new levy on drug makers.

As they began pushing the bill to passage on Wednesday afternoon, Democrats ran into a mountain of GOP amendments. Outnumbered and all but assured of defeat, Republicans forced votes on amendments aimed at reshaping the measure -- or at least forcing Democrats to take votes that could be used against them in TV ads in the fall campaigns.

"There's no attempt to improve the bill. There's an attempt to destroy this bill," said an exasperated Reid, D-Nev.

"The majority leader may not think we're serious about changing the bill, but we'd like to change the bill, and with a little help from our friends on the other side we could improve the bill significantly," answered Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky.

Senators voted on 29 consecutive GOP amendments between 5:30 p.m. Wednesday and 2:30 a.m. Thursday, when they recessed.

By 57-42, Democrats rejected an amendment by Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., barring federal purchases of Viagra and other erectile dysfunction drugs for sex offenders. Coburn said it would save millions of dollars, while Sen. Max Baucus, D-Mont., called it "a crass political stunt."

Democrats also deflected GOP amendments rolling back the health law's Medicare cuts; killing extra Medicaid funds for Tennessee and other state-specific spending; barring tax increases for families earning under $250,000; and requiring the president and other administration officials to purchase health care from exchanges the statute creates.

The landmark legislation that Obama signed Tuesday would provide health care to 32 million uninsured people, and make coverage more affordable to millions of others by expanding the reach of Medicaid and creating new subsidies. Insurance companies would be forbidden to refuse coverage to people with pre-existing illnesses, individuals could buy policies on newly created exchanges and parents could keep children on their family plans until their 26th birthdays.

The $938 billion, 10-year price tag would be financed largely by culling savings from Medicare and imposing new taxes on higher income people and the insurance, pharmaceutical and medical device industries.

Associated Press writer Darlene Superville contributed to this report.

[DarthSaver]

:yawn::yawn::yawn:

Even liberals didn't need to start so many useless post, and this was when Bush was out starting false wars and causing massive deaths which was FAR FAR more worst and evil

I wouldn't go so far as to say your post is hypocritical.....oh, what the hell. I failed to see your "objections" to this thread
http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?sduid=0&t=1935370

Scary new GOP poll

Hmmm In fact you chimed in quite gleefully :bounce:

:rofl2::rofl2::rofl2:

That mean Canada, Europe, Australia, South America, even Mexico are all run by practioners of Hiltler

Conservatives =:crazy:

Also socialized medicine was started during the Weimar Republic, if you want to only focus on Germany

[DarthSaver]

conservatives have no clue to the meaning of "priorities"

Even the RINO's stuck with the opposition of the socialist takeover of health care. By the looks of this poll, a majority of Americans believe they have exactly the right "priorities" :wave:

[paperboy05]

:yawn::yawn::yawn:

Even liberals didn't need to start so many useless post, and this was when Bush was out starting false wars and causing massive deaths which was FAR FAR more worst and evil

:scratch: Hmmm, you created your account in October of 2009; 9 months after Bush left office, how would you know about threads started years ago?

[Ryu-bom]

Even the RINO's stuck with the opposition of the socialist takeover of health care. By the looks of this poll, a majority of Americans believe they have exactly the right "priorities" :wave:

Even the RINO's stuck with the opposition of the socialist takeover of health care, because it was not done by a ( R ). By the looks of this poll, a majority of Americans believe they have exactly the right "priorities" :wave:

Corrected for you....:D

Lets see what the ( R ) have rammed through during their time in office:
WAR
BAILOUT
TAX CUTS for only the rich

[PaintTheSkyGrey]

conservatives have no clue to the meaning of "priorities"

Healthcare doesn't do much if we're all breathing sarin... Unless Obama covers treatment in his new plan. :cool:

[EasyGoing]

Can you enlighten us what "false wars" have to do with a poll on healthcare?

The wars could have paid for healthcare multiple times over. It's guns or butter, and the republicans pick guns and the democrats pick butter. It's simple economics 101. If we didn't fight Iraq and Afghanistan and need multiple aircraft carriers, that would have paid for every American to have free health care for the next 20 years with not one extra cent of tax on anyone.

[PaintTheSkyGrey]

The wars could have paid for healthcare multiple times over. It's guns or butter, and the republicans pick guns and the democrats pick butter. It's simple economics 101. If we didn't fight Iraq and Afghanistan and need multiple aircraft carriers, that would have paid for every American to have free health care for the next 20 years with not one extra cent of tax on anyone.

You might wanna check your facts, figures, and take an economics class.

[Halfspin]

Is 20 pound for the weight like 30 pounds if a guy lifts?

Hahaha, Thanks Dr. J. It has been a long time since that post and I think this guy is just as crazy.

Ryu-bom,
If you're going to whine about the war, at least bring up the fact that that was a NON-Partisan effort!

[EasyGoing]

You might wanna check your facts, figures, and take an economics class.

How much was spent on all military operations the past 30 years?

[PaintTheSkyGrey]

How much was spent on all military operations the past 30 years?

So I guess "Bush's wars" weren't enough? Now we have to go back 30 years? :shake:

[PaintTheSkyGrey]

And Afghanistan + Iraq + Desert Storm is barely over 1 Trillion. How that will pay for the next 20 years, I have no idea... Isn't it supposed to cost like $1 Trillion for only 10 years?

[Radeck]

And Afghanistan + Iraq + Desert Storm is barely over 1 Trillion. How that will pay for the next 20 years, I have no idea... Isn't it supposed to cost like $1 Trillion for only 10 years?

actually it is $2.5T or so, which again is an estimate on a government entitlement, which means in reality it will be $5T or more, going by historical results...the $1T is based on Obama's fraudulent accounting and gimmicks with numbers and 4 years of taxes collected with no benefits being paid...

[paperboy05]

Lets see what the ( R ) have rammed through during their time in office:
TAX CUTS for only the rich

When was that?

Lets see what the ( R ) have rammed through during their time in office:
BAILOUT

When was this?

[EasyGoing]

So I guess "Bush's wars" weren't enough? Now we have to go back 30 years? :shake:

Bush I and Bush II, that is more than 20 years of middle east wars.

[Tony_Danza]

Bush I and Bush II, that is more than 20 years of middle east wars.

Gulf War 1 was a result of Iraq invading Kuwait, the Afghanistan war was going after terrorists.

Gulf War 2 was really the only unnecessary war of the 3.

[EasyGoing]

Gulf War 1 was a result of Iraq invading Kuwait, the Afghanistan war was going after terrorists.

Gulf War 2 was really the only unnecessary war of the 3.

Who cars what one middle east state does to another. Didn't we fund both sides of the Iraq and Iran war? It is stupid. We didn't need to get in any of those fights. Afghanistan wouldn't have happened if that history wasn't in place.

[tvcocco]

Bush I and Bush II, that is more than 20 years of middle east wars.

...overwhelmingly supported by democrats in Congress.

[thnkpd9]

I would love to see the GOP return to the days of Eisenhower, Nixon, and even Reagan, when it at least tried to make constructive improvements to our government rather than simply attempting to start a revolution against it.

[pyro008]

I would love to see the GOP return to the days of Eisenhower, Nixon, and even Reagan, when it at least tried to make constructive improvements to our government rather than simply attempting to start a revolution against it.
Revolution against democrats maybe, not the government.

[thnkpd9]

Revolution against democrats maybe, not the government.

When they say they're cleaning their rifles so they can assassinate the children of Democrats who voted their conscience in Congress...that is a revolt against everything American.

[Dr. J]

When they say they're cleaning their rifles so they can assassinate the children of Democrats who voted their conscience in Congress...that is a revolt against everything American.

Umm yeah.........

http://zapatopi.net/blog/afdb_walmart.jpg

[PaintTheSkyGrey]

Who cars what one middle east state does to another. Didn't we fund both sides of the Iraq and Iran war? It is stupid. We didn't need to get in any of those fights. Afghanistan wouldn't have happened if that history wasn't in place.

Your math clearly doesn't add up, so continuing with this is nothing more than a red herring.

Let's get back to the actual topic, shall we?

[DarthSaver]

When they say they're cleaning their rifles so they can assassinate the children of Democrats who voted their conscience in Congress...that is a revolt against everything American.


Oh My God! All Democrats are now tarred because of these horrible, disgusting incidents. I never would have guessed that all Democrats/Liberals could be so violent. How disgusting, but it must be true. :cool:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/03/25/rep-cantors-richmond-campaign-office-shot-overnight/

Rep. Cantor's Richmond Campaign Office Shot at Overnight



Republican Rep. Eric Cantor's Richmond campaign office was shot at Wednesday night, Fox News has learned, the latest in a rash of apparent threats and acts of intimidation against members of Congress.

Most of the threats so far have been reported by Democrats, but Cantor -- the No. 2 Republican in the House -- is one of about 10 lawmakers who has asked for increased security protection, Fox News has learned. As a member of the House leadership, U.S. Capitol Police already provide Cantor with a security detail around the clock, but he has asked for more security.

As House Republican whip, Cantor is the highest elected Jewish politician in the country.

The Department of Homeland Security is involved in the Cantor case because he is a member of the House leadership.

Fox News has also obtained a threatening message left Friday on the voicemail of Rep. Jean Schmidt, R-Ohio.

[DarthSaver]

Who's fueling the fire?? Which party?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUbFrAyZyoA

:whistlin:

[124nic8]

What will Reps gain by stalling the fix-it bill other than scoring political points?

Anyone think they want to keep the passed bill as is?

[nunaem]

Gulf War 1 was a result of Iraq invading Kuwait,

...After the US gave Saddam permission to do so.
the Afghanistan war was going after terrorists.
How many of the 9/11 hijackers were Afghani? 0. Most were from our 'ally' Saudi Arabia.

Where did the hijackers train? Florida.

We can't invade every country that can 'harbor' a few hundred Al-Qaeda, which was our rationale for invading Afghanistan. The fact is, Al-Qaeda is more fluid than our armed forces, law enforcement agencies are better suited for handling them.

Revolution against democrats maybe, not the government.
Right, republicans love the government, when they're in charge of it. Then dissent against the government becomes 'unpatriotic'.

[DarthSaver]

What will Reps gain by stalling the fix-it bill other than scoring political points?


:dontknow: Respect from at least 62% of Americans who will be very grateful for their efforts come Nov.?

[124nic8]

:dontknow: Respect from at least 62% of Americans who will be very grateful for their efforts come Nov.?

That's "scoring political points."

IE. using it to gain power.

[Elmer]

...After the US gave Saddam permission to do so.

Yes...and the CIA blew up the WTC!

:insane::insane::insane:

Right, republicans love the government, when they're in charge of it. Then dissent against the government becomes 'unpatriotic'.

:yawn:

[DarthSaver]

That's "scoring political points."

IE. using it to gain power.

:nono: "scoring political points" is bringing home the pork like the Cornhusker kickback or Louisiana purchase. You know, something they don't have to actually work for but get handed to them for selling their vote. ;)

[Candide]

...After the US gave Saddam permission to do so.

Anything to prove this allegation?

Our diplomats said we had no interest in the slant drilling dispute. They expected them to blow up a few oil wells at most - not take over the entire country.

How many of the 9/11 hijackers were Afghani? 0. Most were from our 'ally' Saudi Arabia.

How many of their leaders were receiving sanctuary in Afghanistan after being deemed outlaws in Saudi Arabia?

I have no love for Saudi Arabia. I'm one of the few who didn't like GW 1 at all. I'd still like to see some attempts at honest debate instead of spinning everything into the worst possible light.

[Elmer]

I would love to see the GOP return to the days of Eisenhower, Nixon, and even Reagan, when it at least tried to make constructive improvements to our government

The Republicans can never give away as much stuff as the DNC, so it's just been a losing battle for them when they try.....

[tvcocco]

That's "scoring political points."

IE. using it to gain power.

It's also called doing the will of the people.

[124nic8]

It's also called doing the will of the people.

"The people" don't want the bill improved? :shake:

I'm talking about stalling reconciliation. The Senate bill was already passed.

This is naked pandering for political publicity with the ignorant who don't understand what they're fighting.

[pyro008]

Yes...and the CIA blew up the WTC!

:insane::insane::insane:

Ryu-bom actually tried to sell that conspiracy in another thread. Hence why his posts are more humorous than insightful.

[DarthSaver]

"The people" don't want the bill improved? :shake:


So you believe 62% want the GOP to fight and make it WORSE? Including 41% of Democrats?? :rolleyes: OK :rolleyes:

[124nic8]

So you believe 62% want the GOP to fight and make it WORSE? Including 41% of Democrats?? :rolleyes: OK :rolleyes:

No, I believe the 62% don't understand that the GOP is fighting reconciliation.

Maybe they think they are fighting for repeal.

[pyro008]

No, I believe the 62% don't understand that the GOP is fighting reconciliation.

Maybe they think they are fighting for repeal.
Or maybe they think they're minimizing the time this congress has to push their own agenda while ignoring everyone who disagrees.

[DarthSaver]

No, I believe the 62% don't understand that the GOP is fighting reconciliation.

Maybe they think they are fighting for repeal.

CBS News re-interviewed 649 adults interviewed just before the House vote in a CBS News poll conducted March 18-21.

I think the group polled has a pretty good idea of what they want the Republicans to fight about.

[rrc06]

TAX CUTS for only the rich

Everyone got a tax cut. wtf are you talking about


Lets see what the ( R ) have rammed through during their time in office:
BAILOUT

Who bailed out GM and handed off part of it to his union buddies?

[Candide]

Everyone got a tax cut. wtf are you talking about

Ah, but not everyone got a check. Those not paying taxes didn't get any extra money back.

I haven't gotten a check since they stopped calling them rebates and I'm decidedly not rich.

[124nic8]

Guess it didn't work (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=125153754&ft=1&f=1001):

The Senate passed a package of changes to the new health care law Thursday, sending the bill back to the House for a final vote likely to cap a bitterly fought battle over the top item on President Obama’s domestic agenda.

[rrc06]

Ah, but not everyone got a check. Those not paying taxes didn't get any extra money back.

are you being sarcastic?

[Candide]

are you being sarcastic?

Sort of ...

That was the huge complaint from the left when rebate checks were being cut instead of stimulus checks.

Those not paying taxes weren't getting rebate checks and they said they were being cheated.

[rrc06]

Sort of ...

That was the huge complaint from the left when rebate checks were being cut instead of stimulus checks.

Those not paying taxes weren't getting rebate checks and they said they were being cheated.

I guess its hard not to ignore them, considering how many (http://money.cnn.com/2009/09/30/pf/taxes/who_pays_taxes/index.htm) of them there really are.

[124nic8]

Sort of ...

That was the huge complaint from the left when rebate checks were being cut instead of stimulus checks.

Those not paying taxes weren't getting rebate checks and they said they were being cheated.

Yeah and those of us who paid too much tax did not get rebates either.

[dealirious]

Yeah and those of us who paid too much tax did not get rebates either.


waitaminute...what's "too much tax"? :look:

[Candide]

Yeah and those of us who paid too much tax did not get rebates either.

Care to decipher that statement? When were tax rebates issued that you didn't receive one?

[124nic8]

waitaminute...what's "too much tax"? :look:

The rebate was discounted for incomes greater than $75K to the point where they disappeared at some level below my income.

[dealirious]

The rebate was discounted for incomes greater than $75K to the point where they disappeared at some level below my income.

I believe you make too much money. Give some back.

[124nic8]

I believe you make too much money. Give some back.

OK, post your real name, address and SS number here.

[dealirious]

OK, post your real name, address and SS number here.

Why would I need to do that in order for you to give some of your clearly overearned money back?

[Candide]

The rebate was discounted for incomes greater than $75K to the point where they disappeared at some level below my income.

You're right, I remember now that you remind me.

I didn't get the full rebate either. That didn't bother me nearly as much as the way they did the stimulus checks. It's one thing to refund to those who've paid. It's something very different to give their money to those who've paid nothing.

[124nic8]

Why would I need to do that in order for you to give some of your clearly overearned money back?

The IRS needs that info.

Do you want it or not. :P

[DarthSaver]

The IRS needs that info.

Do you want it or not. :P

Are you in line for one of the 10,000 new jobs they are going to create to be Obamas enforcers?

[124nic8]

Are you in line for one of the 10,000 new jobs they are going to create to be Obamas enforcers?

What!?! They cut it from 16,000?

There goes my job....

[DarthSaver]

What!?! They cut it from 16,000?

There goes my job....

10,000 was the CBO estimate. ;) Looks like the even low balled that.

[123er]

CBS News re-interviewed 649 adults interviewed just before the House vote in a CBS News poll conducted March 18-21.

I think the group polled has a pretty good idea of what they want the Republicans to fight about.

I'm pretty sure anyone who knows anything about the bill (R, D, or I) would prefer the reconciliation bill to the one that has already passed. You would be hard pressed to find anyone that would say, "I like the health care bill as it is better than the reconciliation bill." The original senate bill is ALREADY LAW. Delaying reconciliation is nothing more than political posturing, and is keeping the less desirable version of the bill on the books.

[rrc06]

And nearly a year later...

Poll shows most Americans favor repeal of the new national health care law (http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/02/new_poll_shows_majority_of_ame.html)

While Republicans in Congress are considering ways to defund health care reform, a new poll released Monday shows most Americans are at least somewhat in favor of repealing the law, which was passed last year.

The Rasmussen poll found that 58 percent of likely voters said they are at least somewhat in favor of a repeal, with 44 percent saying they strongly favor repeal. Thirty-seven percent said they are opposed to repeal, with 26 percent saying they strongly oppose it.

Respondents in favor of repeal said their biggest concerns are that the law will drive up costs and diminish the quality of care.

Last week, Senate Republicans lost a bid to repeal the health care law, by a vote of 51-47. President Obama has vowed to veto any total repeal of the bill.

[dynamite]

And nearly a year later...

Poll shows most Americans favor repeal of the new national health care law (http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/02/new_poll_shows_majority_of_ame.html)

Polls also show most Americans believe Obama is a muslim. Should we really follow the crowd of uninformed/misinformed sheeple?

Obamacare should stand until a viable alternative is introduced....as far as I can tell the GOP has not a single idea about how to improve health care in the USA. It boggles my mind how this county can fail so miserably on health care and education when EVERY other developed country has superior models in place. Is this country really that hopeless? We will see in 2012.

[paperboy05]

Polls also show most Americans believe Obama is a muslim.
You have a poll that shows >58% of people think that?

Should we really follow the crowd of uninformed/misinformed sheeple?
That seemed to have been the reason Obamacare passed in the first place...

[rrc06]

Polls also show most Americans believe Obama is a muslim.
Obamacare should stand until a viable alternative is introduced

Why? It does nothing to control costs, and places additional burdens on business coming out of one of the worst recessions in history.

The biggest fraud is that people believe an entitlement program can actually cut the deficit.

Should we really follow the crowd of uninformed/misinformed sheeple?

Let me guess. You think Big Brother knows what is best for me, right?

[REDCELL]

Obamacare is dead. Right now. A Federal Judge has ruled it Unconstitutional. There is no provision to continue with its implementation at this time. Period.

If Obama continues to implement, he is not only continuing to move against the majority of THE PEOPLE, but he is also in violation of Law.

Should we take to the streets as they did in Cairo?

[TRNT]

Obamacare is dead. Right now. A Federal Judge has ruled it Unconstitutional. There is no provision to continue with its implementation at this time. Period.

If Obama continues to implement, he is not only continuing to move against the majority of THE PEOPLE, but he is also in violation of Law.

Should we take to the streets as they did in Cairo?I am not a lawyer but I think your prognosis re life/death of the said law is not correct.