View Full Version : Rep Trading and Rep Point Abuse
The Raddish
05-10-2006, 03:36 PM
There has been a lot of Lounge threads pop up recently about trading reputation points. As I have come across these threads, I have deleted them.
Reputation points were disabled in the Lounge to prevent abuse of the reputation system. Members have had reputation points taken away from them, frozen to where they can't give reputation to others, and some have had them disabled.
This is a reminder that blatant reputation trading is not allowed, and posting about trading reps is prohibited. The point of the reputation system is so that users can see who has been helpful in the deal and tech sections, not who is the most popular in the Lounge. Abuse of the reputation system will not be tolerated. It is in fact because of such abuse that negative reps were disabled.
wakeboarder86
05-10-2006, 04:02 PM
I think its a good idea. I know a few people that have over inflated reps, yet have not contributed a single thing (deal or in tech support)
take a guess.
Schooby
05-10-2006, 04:03 PM
I learned my lesson a long time ago :nod: I try giving them a friendly warning but like the kids on the bus...they don't listen :lol:
Hoseman666
05-10-2006, 04:10 PM
Is it possible to have your reps turned on, but choose to accept or decline a rep? That way you could refuse to be repped for something you don't feel you deserve...
veritableqndry
05-10-2006, 04:18 PM
Is it still okay to offer reps for help with certain projects?
The Raddish
05-10-2006, 04:33 PM
Is it still okay to offer reps for help with certain projects?
Yes. But threads about trading reps will be deleted. Threads that become all about trading reps (regardless of how they started out) will simply be deleted as well.
Offering reps for helpful posts or information is fine, as always. We're not concerned about that.
The concern is with rep point abuse. That is where we'll be cracking down.
serra
05-10-2006, 04:40 PM
Thanks for your announcement TR. I completely agree that you should be EARNING your reps fair and square....and not abusing them by mutually repping each other.
:worthy: :worthy: :worthy: :worthy:
The Raddish has spoken!!!!! I agree with you completely oh ye benevolent dictator!!! (If I don't agree will you NERP me???:confused: )
:nod: Good decision, in all seriousness:nod:
finzz2dlft
05-10-2006, 05:25 PM
I learned my lesson a long time ago :nod: I try giving them a friendly warning but like the kids on the bus...they don't listen :lol:
:iagree: Ditto that!!
volleyballstud
05-10-2006, 06:49 PM
Yeah, what they all said... :punk:
Not like I have a lot anyways... :(
Iaaaiws
05-10-2006, 07:57 PM
I thought Raddish would have been a little more laid back after getting all that action from his wife in DC.
I still say rep point comments should be public like ebay feedback so everyone can see for themselves if they are legit or not.
serra
05-10-2006, 08:03 PM
I still say rep point comments should be public like ebay feedback so everyone can see for themselves if they are legit or not.
that's a good way to monitor all the reps. great idea! :thumbup:
HUGE_M00bs
05-10-2006, 08:06 PM
that's a good way to monitor all the reps. great idea! :thumbup:
:iagree:
wakeboarder86
05-10-2006, 08:16 PM
I also agree, that would be cool.
Iaaaiws
05-10-2006, 08:32 PM
that's a good way to monitor all the reps. great idea! :thumbup:
:iagree:
I also agree, that would be cool.
Now accepting rep points:D
:rofl2:
:hide:
ToddziLLa
05-10-2006, 11:02 PM
I feel it.
PiratesSayARRR
05-11-2006, 12:28 AM
there should be a seperate category called lounge points....
sometimes I get reps for helping in the lounge... so I would consider those legit... like helping with photoshop stuff or finding something... but they find threads that count.. and give reps that way... I hope that is legit
kakomu
05-11-2006, 01:08 AM
Rep points, to me, seem totally unnecessary. Even thought I have over 100 points, it's not like they do anything. It doesn't garner much respect or give me any privileges. It's like post count.
brisar
05-11-2006, 02:01 AM
Is it possible to have your reps turned on, but choose to accept or decline a rep? That way you could refuse to be repped for something you don't feel you deserve...
I think this is a great idea. :nod:
While I have earned most of my rep, I definitely have received some rep that I don't think I deserved....
and this does bother me.
rtalber1
05-11-2006, 07:36 AM
Raddish,
Do you think you could talk to MR SLickdeals about reping people when they make the front page. I was on there like 4 days in a row during the Dell 10 days, and it would be nice to get some REPS with the thank you from him. His are worth +5 or something.
wakeboarder86
05-11-2006, 09:56 AM
Raddish,
Do you think you could talk to MR SLickdeals about reping people when they make the front page. I was on there like 4 days in a row during the Dell 10 days, and it would be nice to get some REPS with the thank you from him. His are worth +5 or something.
reps from people in the thread aren't enough?
dalokgawd
05-11-2006, 10:41 AM
I warned everyone a while back that it was getting out of hand and that eventually something like this would happen. I learned my lesson with the death of the RPS.
Long live the RPS! :worship:
ironikal
05-11-2006, 11:15 AM
Agreed - rep point inflation is not a funny matter.
finzz2dlft
05-11-2006, 11:23 AM
I warned everyone a while back that it was getting out of hand and that eventually something like this would happen. I learned my lesson with the death of the RPS.
Long live the RPS! :worship:
:woot: :woot: :woot:
rtalber1
05-11-2006, 12:29 PM
reps from people in the thread aren't enough?
It sets a precedence, you will remember to REP those who deserve it, It would be a nice addition. I was on a kick for about a week that was my goal to make the BOLD mark, and I did it that week.
The Raddish
05-11-2006, 01:43 PM
Mr. SD is monitoring this thread, so he has seen your request.
serra
05-11-2006, 02:44 PM
Mr. SD is monitoring this thread, so he has seen your request.
kinda like this????....click on Lowpro's link :rofl2:
[QUOTE=lowpro;2542594]Attn Slickdealers!!
This is a message from Mr.SD* (http://www.careerbuilder.com/monk-e-mail/?mid=6738419) :eek: :eek:
MissChievous
05-11-2006, 06:33 PM
Raddish, what a grand idea. To show my appreciation, how about I rep you if you rep me? :)
XXnarg
05-11-2006, 06:54 PM
Is it still okay to offer reps for help with certain projects?While it may be ok, there is some risk to the integrity of the forum of doing that.
I've seen threads in tech support where people repost a solution to a question or they post an uneducated response, just to get one of those guaranteed rep points.
IMHO, we should all give reps for service without telling people we are going to do it. Otherwise, it becomes like in the bar near closing time and someone shouts "Reps (or drinks) all around," so that everyone becomes best friends with the big spender ;)
I think this is a great idea. :nod:
While I have earned most of my rep, I definitely have received some rep that I don't think I deserved....
and this does bother me.Since few others probably aren't going to do the same thing, you'd be underreporting your status relative to others.
When I was in sales, we sometimes got deals we called "Bluebirds," which just sorta flew in the window without us doing anything to justify the business. Consider those questionable reps to be "Bluebirds"... :nod:
Rep points, to me, seem totally unnecessary. Even thought I have over 100 points, it's not like they do anything. It doesn't garner much respect or give me any privileges. It's like post count.Why not turn them off?
...I still say rep point comments should be public like ebay feedback so everyone can see for themselves if they are legit or not.People would just get creative or post meaningless stuff there, such as, "Great job!", "Thanks for the help," "Good deal, thanks for the tip." Whatever value there is to rep point comments would be diminshed.
kakomu
05-11-2006, 07:07 PM
Why not turn them off?
They're not worth however much effort it takes to figure out where to turn them off.
however, the ultimate point of my post is also to show that this reaction about rep inflation is an over reaction.
McSlick
05-11-2006, 07:15 PM
They're not worth however much effort it takes to figure out where to turn them off.
User CP --> Edit Options --> second option on there (uncheck box) --> scroll down and click save changes
4 clicks total :D
SweetestChana
05-15-2006, 01:35 AM
Offering reps for helpful posts or information is fine, as always. We're not concerned about that.
I have 2 comments.
(1.) I like to give rep points if someone has helped me. I think when we help other members of SD we are helping the board. Also not everone will go out of their way to help others. Kindness should be rewarded.
(2.) Someone else said we should rep and not tell anyone. I used to do this but someone made a comment that it might be more helpful to the person being repped to post it. I thought about it and now tell people when I rep them. I wish I could remember who mentioned this, whoever you are thank you and an unofficial rep for good advise.
Also a Thank You to The Raddish.
XXnarg
05-15-2006, 01:09 PM
They're not worth however much effort it takes to figure out where to turn them off.Uncheck the second box down: http://forums.slickdeals.net/profile.php?do=editoptions
Three clicks and you're done!
XXnarg
05-15-2006, 01:12 PM
...(2.) Someone else said we should rep and not tell anyone. I used to do this but someone made a comment that it might be more helpful to the person being repped to post it. I thought about it and now tell people when I rep them....People who receive rep points can read the comments accompanying them by clicking on User CP.
IMHO, why clutter the thread w/ rep comments?
It may discourage others from repping ("ah, I see he already got a point, so he doesn't need mine") or if it's a popular post, there could be many such Attaboy! posts, which are redundant to the comments in the reps themselves.
They're forum entropy!
hailToPitt
05-15-2006, 11:01 PM
haha I was just in teh bathroom about 5 min ago thinking ii should start a type of thread where we trade rep points, but then im like naa.. Its so weird how it comes up right away. Creepy
wellebh
05-16-2006, 08:55 AM
I enjoy peoples' comments in the lounge, and I'd like some way to show them that I thought their comment/remark/opinion was insightful, helpful, made me bust my gut laughing at work, etc...
Is there any way we could get a sort of LoungePoints system?
They're not worth however much effort it takes to figure out where to turn them off.
Press the "Windows key"
Press "u"
Press "u"
Three keystrokes and you're done!
clownfishboy
05-16-2006, 11:48 AM
The lounge has become a 'rep whore' spot lately. All it takes is someone to start talking about reps. They know that it will lead to people mutually repping each other. :ranting:
gtoreo
05-16-2006, 02:28 PM
Way to go Raddish - Rep to you :)
fransen
05-16-2006, 09:58 PM
okay, i know i'm not some slickdeal's god by any means, but why would people cheat for rep's? C'mon people, it's not like your'e going to get a hot girlfriend because "i have 800 rep points baby". The amount of effort involved does not match the benefit in my opinion (like breaking into someones car for burned CD's). You should make a losers page and post these people on it.
serra
05-16-2006, 10:40 PM
okay, i know i'm not some slickdeal's god by any means, but why would people cheat for rep's? C'mon people, it's not like your'e going to get a hot girlfriend because "i have 800 rep points baby". The amount of effort involved does not match the benefit in my opinion (like breaking into someones car for burned CD's). You should make a losers page and post these people on it.
:crylol:
arjunsr
05-17-2006, 07:35 AM
okay, i know i'm not some slickdeal's god by any means, but why would people cheat for rep's? C'mon people, it's not like your'e going to get a hot girlfriend because "i have 800 rep points baby". The amount of effort involved does not match the benefit in my opinion (like breaking into someones car for burned CD's). You should make a losers page and post these people on it.
whenever you have something that measures you against someone else there's always going to be people who make it their goal to be #1.
I learned my lesson with the death of the RPS.
Long live the RPS! :worship:
:hide:
XXnarg
05-17-2006, 09:32 AM
whenever you have something that measures you against someone else there's always going to be people who make it their goal to be #1.Excellent point! :worship:
xen-cuts
05-18-2006, 10:01 AM
100% of the Lounge is over inflated rep points, yet that is probably where the bulk of 100+point users reside.
SlickChik
05-18-2006, 03:44 PM
100% of the Lounge is over inflated rep points, yet that is probably where the bulk of 100+point users reside.
I don't think thats a fair statement. There's plenty of people who post in the lounge and post deals as well.
brisar
05-18-2006, 06:21 PM
I don't think thats a fair statement. There's plenty of people who post in the lounge and post deals as well.
I agree :nod:
and besides posting deals .....
help in the "Help" forum, "Tech" forum, etc....
serra
05-18-2006, 07:14 PM
100% of the Lounge is over inflated rep points, yet that is probably where the bulk of 100+point users reside.
very unfair statement
CADeal
05-19-2006, 03:15 AM
I've written the President of the United States about rep points and I figure by election time, we'll see some talk about legislation governing excessive point contributions and exchanges. It's been an ignored issue for too long and if left unchecked, we may see widespread abuse. Corporate corruption. Governments falling apart. Chickens barking like dogs. That sort of thing!
:stretcher
xen-cuts
05-19-2006, 10:10 AM
It doesn't matter whether you think it's a fair statement. It's a true statement. :lol:
Anyway, it's not like it matters for anything...
Momto2pooches
05-21-2006, 09:58 PM
I've written the President of the United States about rep points and I figure by election time, we'll see some talk about legislation governing excessive point contributions and exchanges. It's been an ignored issue for too long and if left unchecked, we may see widespread abuse. Corporate corruption. Governments falling apart. Chickens barking like dogs. That sort of thing!
:stretcher
LMAO~ great post , totally entertained here! :)
It doesn't matter whether you think it's a fair statement. It's a true statement. :lol:
Anyway, it's not like it matters for anything...
True, I kinda got the "clique" impression myself...but it doesn't matter as long as everyone is having fun and getting great deals, right? :)
brisar
05-22-2006, 02:22 AM
It doesn't matter whether you think it's a fair statement. It's a true statement. :lol:
Anyway, it's not like it matters for anything...
The part that I don't like is that you say " 100 % "
there are many of people who visit the lounge who earn reps legitimately and the Lounge is just a part of their SD contribution.
TraderX
05-22-2006, 08:35 PM
It's funny that most of the posting on this thread seems to be coming from the 100+ Rep Pt Members... Interesting who it seems is interested in ensuring no over-repping goes on.
That being said, I agree that blatant requesting for Reps is wrong, and that trading or negotiating a trade like that is wrong as well.
My question is, asides from the whole being #1 thing (and getting your name bolded) what does having 100+ reps do for a person anyways. Ever since NeRPs were taken away, I can't figure out if there is any other bonus over the whole bolded name thing. Can anyone tell me the other associated benefit(s)?
SlickChik
05-22-2006, 09:53 PM
It's funny that most of the posting on this thread seems to be coming from the 100+ Rep Pt Members... Interesting who it seems is interested in ensuring no over-repping goes on.
That being said, I agree that blatant requesting for Reps is wrong, and that trading or negotiating a trade like that is wrong as well.
My question is, asides from the whole being #1 thing (and getting your name bolded) what does having 100+ reps do for a person anyways. Ever since NeRPs were taken away, I can't figure out if there is any other bonus over the whole bolded name thing. Can anyone tell me the other associated benefit(s)?
I'd like to note that its probably likely that people who are pretty involved with this site are going to be the ones posting deals/coupons/helping etc....and are therefore more likely to get reps. Many of us are also the same people that enjoy hanging out in the lounge.
Correlation doesnt imply causation. Most of us are posting here because we care about site issues and whatnot. Not because we are worried about getting our precious little reps taken away. Seriously...you think us people over 100 reps really care about getting even more reps, especially since they dont mean anything? Could it possibly be that we just like helping out and being part of the SD community?
greatvyper
05-22-2006, 10:00 PM
I'll have to agree with slickchik, After 100 reps the want for more reps goes way down. The ability to get reps might be easier for someone with more reps because they know where to find the Slick Deals on the net or all the freebies etc. Most of the 100+ reps members have been very involved with this site and have posted many deals.
When you are so involved with something you tend to want to be involved in the whole thing. The Lounge is a great place to kick back and submit posts for the one reason of just conversation with comrades. :D :wave:
mach vii
05-22-2006, 10:17 PM
Raddish,
Do you think you could talk to MR SLickdeals about reping people when they make the front page. I was on there like 4 days in a row during the Dell 10 days, and it would be nice to get some REPS with the thank you from him. His are worth +5 or something.
He repped me for my front page deal during the same sale. He must not like you....
:P
cogentman
05-22-2006, 10:43 PM
He repped me for my front page deal during the same sale. He must not like you....
:P
:lmao:
Interest401
05-23-2006, 12:24 PM
I think most of us do this for the challenge of finding a Slickdeal and sharing it with the team. I take each Rep point as it was meant to be (a thank you).
I use the number of post and Rep points of others as a point reference. It gives me a indication that the person is probably dedicated and has some knowledge of what he/she speaks.
Now that I've said that, I'd didn't realize that 100 Rep points made your name bold until I was a couple of Reps away. Boy did it did feel good to go BOLD.:nod:
iconian
06-01-2006, 12:34 PM
I'll have to agree with slickchik, After 100 reps the want for more reps goes way down. The ability to get reps might be easier for someone with more reps because they know where to find the Slick Deals on the net or all the freebies etc. Most of the 100+ reps members have been very involved with this site and have posted many deals.
When you are so involved with something you tend to want to be involved in the whole thing. The Lounge is a great place to kick back and submit posts for the one reason of just conversation with comrades. :D :wave:
take a look at selma, speaking of DOMINANCE :)
bungie
06-01-2006, 10:31 PM
anyone wanna trade rep points? jk slickdeals rocks...looking forward to contributing more in the future.
xen-cuts
06-06-2006, 03:25 PM
:iagree: But she is postwhoring again ;)
That is different than 99.9878757648767463765687684763% of the lounge in what way?
:lol: Is that a better estimate of the amount of postwhoring/rep whoring people do here? Whining about my 100% post is lame, but I just couldn't pass on the opportunity to say, "I told you so."
AR 24
06-07-2006, 10:37 PM
booo :(
xen-cuts
06-08-2006, 02:56 PM
fo shizzle bro. Bootastic! :)
IbDealhunter
06-09-2006, 09:45 AM
I'd like to note that its probably likely that people who are pretty involved with this site are going to be the ones posting deals/coupons/helping etc....and are therefore more likely to get reps. Many of us are also the same people that enjoy hanging out in the lounge.
Correlation doesnt imply causation. Most of us are posting here because we care about site issues and whatnot. Not because we are worried about getting our precious little reps taken away. Seriously...you think us people over 100 reps really care about getting even more reps, especially since they dont mean anything? Could it possibly be that we just like helping out and being part of the SD community?
I disagree, but not entirely. I present a miniscule example:
In the tech forum, there was an unanswered question. Although it wasn't my percise field of expertise I attempted to find a solution. Failing miserably I posted that I couldn't find anything and by a mere bump I hoped that the person would get a bit more attention to his or her problem at hand. I was repped for doing this.
Technically: I was repped for bumping a thread.
On the other hand it was a *very* unexpected thank you. I feel that I wasn't thanked for what I did but, more for being here and active. It's more like being thanked for being a part of the community.
Being part of the community is much fun, but I don't have the time for it. I truely wish I did. The reason I say this is because when you post in the lounge the thread takes off. In a matter of moments it's up to two pages. It's more like an active chat room. It's very cool, but, it needs some time to really parse. Someone who drops by occationally can't possibly keep up.
The thing is, that you mention people over 100. I don't have 100, and I suspect I won't have 100 before the end of this year or so. Although they're meaningless, I feel that I am working for them and it's a bit of an achievement. It's nothing special to you *now* but it may have been before.
So here's the part I disagree about. If, and I assume this, others are like me than someone starting out may feel the same drive. After realizing that participation is necessary, the easy way out may seem more desirable. A couple trades here (rep abuse) encourages the drive to get to 100 for the cheater and in a sense discourages those who work for it.
I do not doubt that there are honest people out there, and you can tell by how they participate in the forum, but some may really wonder where these select few with massively low post counts gets such high rep counts without major deals.
The real issue at hand is how to separate the few from the many. I liked a couple of the ideas, but misuse lends to trivialization. The idea of making the rep posts visible is a good idea, but like Xnarg stated misuse will encourage generalization of rep comments or, god forbid, auto-repping bots.
Is there a middle ground? Is it possible to attain a middle ground?
I don't think there is one. Unless reps become moderated. The reason I think this is because with PM'ing it's not possible to stop people from gathering togther and making a rep ring.
serra
06-09-2006, 07:54 PM
i just got repped from a member who said
I just won $250 in the home depot spin! Thank you so much. (it won't let me rep you in that thread)
and let me tell you those are the reps that makes my day! So earning them fair & square is more rewarding than trading :nod:
jmcinaz
06-10-2006, 12:32 AM
i just got repped from a member who said
and let me tell you those are the reps that makes my day! So earning them fair & square is more rewarding than trading :nod:
:iagree:
SlickChik
06-10-2006, 11:33 PM
I disagree, but not entirely. I present a miniscule example:
In the tech forum, there was an unanswered question. Although it wasn't my percise field of expertise I attempted to find a solution. Failing miserably I posted that I couldn't find anything and by a mere bump I hoped that the person would get a bit more attention to his or her problem at hand. I was repped for doing this.
Technically: I was repped for bumping a thread.
On the other hand it was a *very* unexpected thank you. I feel that I wasn't thanked for what I did but, more for being here and active. It's more like being thanked for being a part of the community.
Being part of the community is much fun, but I don't have the time for it. I truely wish I did. The reason I say this is because when you post in the lounge the thread takes off. In a matter of moments it's up to two pages. It's more like an active chat room. It's very cool, but, it needs some time to really parse. Someone who drops by occationally can't possibly keep up.
The thing is, that you mention people over 100. I don't have 100, and I suspect I won't have 100 before the end of this year or so. Although they're meaningless, I feel that I am working for them and it's a bit of an achievement. It's nothing special to you *now* but it may have been before.
So here's the part I disagree about. If, and I assume this, others are like me than someone starting out may feel the same drive. After realizing that participation is necessary, the easy way out may seem more desirable. A couple trades here (rep abuse) encourages the drive to get to 100 for the cheater and in a sense discourages those who work for it.
I do not doubt that there are honest people out there, and you can tell by how they participate in the forum, but some may really wonder where these select few with massively low post counts gets such high rep counts without major deals.
The real issue at hand is how to separate the few from the many. I liked a couple of the ideas, but misuse lends to trivialization. The idea of making the rep posts visible is a good idea, but like Xnarg stated misuse will encourage generalization of rep comments or, god forbid, auto-repping bots.
Is there a middle ground? Is it possible to attain a middle ground?
I don't think there is one. Unless reps become moderated. The reason I think this is because with PM'ing it's not possible to stop people from gathering togther and making a rep ring.
I guess I don't really know about these "rep trading rings." If that is happening....thats just sad. I know I work for my reps and enjoy being part of the community. That's why I feel the need to defend those of us who do spend time in the lounge, but also go outside the lounge to help out and earn reps.
The Raddish
06-10-2006, 11:51 PM
The reason I think this is because with PM'ing it's not possible to stop people from gathering togther and making a rep ring.
Actually, it is possible. :evillaf:
IbDealhunter
06-11-2006, 05:13 AM
@ The Raddish
Then I encourage the crackdown. because although I don't have many, I know I'm proud of the little I have.
@ SlickChik
That's why I feel the need to defend those of us who do spend time in the lounge, but also go outside the lounge to help out and earn reps.
Defend away. I know there's good people out there who need a say but like usuall it's always the few that bring out the bad... :/
CADeal
06-26-2006, 04:32 PM
I was led to believe that once I exceed the 100 point mark, I'd be eligible for a date or kickball match with kel_be (http://forums.slickdeals.net/member.php?u=28760) or SlickChik (http://forums.slickdeals.net/member.php?u=72058)! :hug: I think to be eligible for Selma (http://forums.slickdeals.net/member.php?u=65229), I would need to exceed her totals which may be quite a feat! :heart:
Seriously, the rep point thing isn't something I take seriously. However, I understand it as an opportunity to encourage community interaction. Moreso, it's like what RickySlicky said, getting one with a comment is more valuable than all the rep points received without one combined. It just feels good that a post you've contributed has made someone's day. Hell, I often give out rep points for commentary or supporting remarks since I believe that without such "non-deal-type" posts, this community would not be as strong as it has become.
Nope, we should never get rid of rep points, but we should not become obsessed with it either. Unless my comments in the first paragraph were true, then it would matter. Oh yes, it would matter! :swordfigh
kel_be
06-26-2006, 09:40 PM
I kick ass at kickball anywho :weight:
Geeke19
06-27-2006, 05:13 PM
okay, i know i'm not some slickdeal's god by any means, but why would people cheat for rep's? C'mon people, it's not like your'e going to get a hot girlfriend because "i have 800 rep points baby". The amount of effort involved does not match the benefit in my opinion (like breaking into someones car for burned CD's). You should make a losers page and post these people on it.
:rofl2:
CADeal
06-27-2006, 05:43 PM
:weight: :flex:
IT must be a small penis thing to brag about rep points that don't count for anything besides a forum that no one really knows about anyone...
I give rep points all the time, for no reason what so ever...
kel_be
07-01-2006, 06:41 PM
Well, with that comment, I think this thread is done.
Moral of the thread:
Don't delibratly trade reputation points, you'll get caught & lose your privileges.