View Full Version : Norton 360 4.0 for only $15.99 NO REBATE $64 OFF
garrett_proper
02-01-2011, 07:58 AM
This is a great deal and is also the download version!!!
Save $64 off Norton 360 one year version
$24 off coupon: 30N360
http://antivirus.norton.com/norton/ps/1up_gr_el_nu.html
Reg-$79.99 on sale for $39.99-$24(coupon)=$15.99
The link also compares all 3 version's of Norton
wikipost
02-01-2011, 07:58 AM
use coupon code 40n360 to make it $7.99 (+tax)
thanks minmin001
Take note of this:
"Your subscription purchase today includes enrollment in the Norton Automatic Renewal Service, allowing you to conveniently maintain your product subscription and critical protection. By enrolling in Norton Automatic Renewal Service, you authorize Symantec to automatically charge the then-current renewal subscription fee (plus applicable taxes) to your credit or debit card without any additional action by you prior to the expiration of your product subscription. You may cancel the Norton Automatic Renewal Service at any time by visiting your Norton Account at www.myNortonAccount.com (http://slickdeals.net/?&u2=http://www.myNortonAccount.com) and turning off the auto-renewal feature, or by contacting Norton Customer Service. Learn more about the Norton Automatic Renewal Service and how to "
With an easy out under this disclaimer it says "manage your preferences" click on that then tick
No thank you. Please do not automatically renew my subscription.
Popolokous
02-01-2011, 09:03 AM
reps. Any coupon or deal for Norton Internet Security without rebates?
JJHearn
02-01-2011, 09:08 AM
I saw and read about the download insurance. So, what are the odds on being able to use this on my laptop and desktop?
kobe0007
02-01-2011, 09:21 AM
It says I have to buy $8.99 insurance.
You should also put Download in the title ;)
garrett_proper
02-01-2011, 09:24 AM
It says I have to buy $8.99 insurance
You can delete it from the cart
daddylovesky
02-01-2011, 09:38 AM
You can delete it from the cart
It says I have to buy $8.99 insurance.
You should also put Download in the title ;)
Just delete it by clicking the trashcan in the "remove" column...
mitch.fetterman
02-01-2011, 10:24 AM
I removed the crappy insurance from the car before I purchased. Ends up being 17.11 including tax and removing the insurance. Pretty good deal I feel...claims I can install this on up to 3 machines...
ViRaL
02-01-2011, 11:02 AM
I saw and read about the download insurance. So, what are the odds on being able to use this on my laptop and desktop?
It's licensed for up to 3 PCs so you should be fine.
nathan1225
02-01-2011, 11:10 AM
Great deal!! Just purchased and I'll hold onto the key until my current subscription runs out. I paid about $40 to download from Amazon.com last year.
Good deal but I think that I will wait for slick deal on Kaspersky
jstroik
02-01-2011, 11:20 AM
FYI - these are typically good deals to get antivirus and antispyware on your system. Once it is on, however, you end up paying full price per year per computer in order to keep it working. And I've seen cases where Norton 360 breaks TCP stacks on systems, etc, when the subscription expires.
I'd just use Windows Security Essentials suite. It's better. Also, it's free.
jbloggs
02-01-2011, 11:26 AM
Also note that you can get this free if you are a Comcast customer with maybe a couple feature removed
Wildpir8
02-01-2011, 11:31 AM
FYI - these are typically good deals to get antivirus and antispyware on your system. Once it is on, however, you end up paying full price per year per computer in order to keep it working. And I've seen cases where Norton 360 breaks TCP stacks on systems, etc, when the subscription expires.
I'd just use Windows Security Essentials suite. It's better. Also, it's free.
Siggh...it's not better. And all you have to do when you're almost up for renewal is enter a license key from one of the Free After Rebate deals that pop up all the time.
nathan1225
02-01-2011, 11:34 AM
FYI - these are typically good deals to get antivirus and antispyware on your system. Once it is on, however, you end up paying full price per year per computer in order to keep it working. And I've seen cases where Norton 360 breaks TCP stacks on systems, etc, when the subscription expires.
I'd just use Windows Security Essentials suite. It's better. Also, it's free.
I don't end up paying full price, speak for yourself!
JDLade
02-01-2011, 12:01 PM
just get avast antivirus (http://www.avast.com/index). its free.
rep plz
minmin001
02-01-2011, 12:02 PM
I still have 82 days left on my current one do I need to buy that insurance thing since it says "When you purchase downloadable software from the Norton Store, you automatically receive the ability to download your software for 60 days from the date of purchase."
Guyman
02-01-2011, 12:03 PM
FAR all the time. spend 5 minutes, if that and save some $$$. big deal.
devastor
02-01-2011, 12:03 PM
Will this add 1 year to existing subscriptions?
I still have 82 days left on my current one do I need to buy that insurance thing since it says "When you purchase downloadable software from the Norton Store, you automatically receive the ability to download your software for 60 days from the date of purchase."
nope. just make sure you get the key. you can put that key into your current subscription. it'll automatically upgrade when the new version comes out.
that said. this is FAR all the freaking time. no reason to ever pay for AV
joshuaNH
02-01-2011, 12:07 PM
Why pay for virus protection? AVG... it's free.
Promitheas
02-01-2011, 12:34 PM
I remember the old days. I would pay money to get someone to remove Norton from a pre-configured system. Talking about persistent viruses. I can't believe they are still in business. Too much fear I guess...
keishashadow
02-01-2011, 12:34 PM
not everybody wants to mess with FAR offers and the 3 user version is not always included anyway, thanx OP!
minmin001
02-01-2011, 12:35 PM
if you use coupon code 40N360 it takes off $32 and the total will be $7.99+tax
boredbored123
02-01-2011, 12:46 PM
if you use coupon code 40N360 it takes off $32 and the total will be $7.99+tax
omg i wish i saw this before buying it
minmin001
02-01-2011, 12:50 PM
omg i wish i saw this before buying it
Sorry, wish I could have posted it a bit earlier but I was just trying to find if any other coupon would stack and came across that one which I tried instead of 30N360 and it worked.... I was try to be slick and see if there is a 50N360 or 60N360 but there wasn't :(
pullmyfinger
02-01-2011, 12:52 PM
should shell out a few more bucks for the $30 Nod32 antivirus 3 user deal or wait for a FAR Kaspersky deal. Not a fan of avast, MS SE, or Norton. I have seen people catching very obvious malwares while running MS SE. And Norton is a resource hog.
http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?sduid=242346&t=2620455
boredbored123
02-01-2011, 12:54 PM
Sorry, wish I could have posted it a bit earlier but I was just trying to find if any other coupon would stack and came across that one which I tried instead of 30N360 and it worked.... I was try to be slick and see if there is a 50N360 or 60N360 but there wasn't :(
It's ok. Hopefully someone else can use this code. Good find though. :thumbup:
WWWDDD
02-01-2011, 01:01 PM
With so many people are saying this is always FAR very often, that's not true.
FAR could be frequently for Antivirus 2011 but NOT that often with the 360 version.
I have been searching for a good deal on 360 since the last 6 months, the best I have seen is like 1 time FAR at Fry's with close to $80 rebates (2 different rebates), and don't forget you have to pay TAX at Fry's and that's $7 tax plus 2 big rebates.
Without rebate, the better deal in last 2 months is $20 at Dell or something close to that at OD/OM,
So this deal with $8 without rebate is definitely a very good deal if you are a 360 subscriber.
buyitjody
02-01-2011, 01:11 PM
We bought a two year subscription a little over a year ago. At the time, it was one of the few that actually worked well with Windows 7. Anyway, since I have a little less than one year left, I want to verify that if I buy this now that I can just put in the key code in my current account and it will just extend the subscription for another year (ie. add another 365 days to the current amount of days I have left). Also, do I need to enter the key code on every computer I have it installed on or will it communicate with my other computers and extend them also (all are on the same computer network at home)? I know I'm ignorant in this, so please be nice.
sledhed
02-01-2011, 01:11 PM
just get avast antivirus (http://www.avast.com/index). its free.
rep plz
Clueless newbie comment... and then you ask for rep? :shake:
Why pay for virus protection? AVG... it's free.
Ya know, there is a difference between antivirus and internet security... and sometimes you do get what you pay for... :look:
Rep for OP for a decent deal!
Buckeyefan 1
02-01-2011, 01:24 PM
Ya know, there is a difference between antivirus and internet security... and sometimes you do get what you pay for.
Please explain the difference. Use the term anti-malware instead of antivirus, as spyware is a much bigger issue. Avast's free version has rootkill. You will never have an issue with the free version of Avast. Spending money on this is a joke.
These numbers don't lie.
http://download.cnet.com/1770-20_4-0.html?tag=mncol;sort;dw&query=anti+malware&searchtype=downloads&filter=platform%3DWindows&filterName=platform%3DWindows&sort=totallw4+asc&rpp=10
sledhed
02-01-2011, 01:36 PM
Please explain the difference. Use the term anti-malware instead of antivirus, as spyware is a much bigger issue. Avast's free version has rootkill. You will never have an issue with the free version of Avast. Spending money on this is a joke.
These numbers don't lie.
http://download.cnet.com/1770-20_4-0.html?tag=mncol;sort;dw&query=anti+malware&searchtype=downloads&filter=platform%3DWindows&filterName=platform%3DWindows&sort=totallw4+asc&rpp=10
Not going to argue the merits of this particular product (since I have not used it), and I had Avg antivirus on an old desktop at home until I sold it and it seemed to work great, but in general internet security software includes more than just anti-malware, such as firewall and anti-spam and in this case, some automated backup software as well, and 2GB of backupstorage online. Plus for whatever it is worth you have support from the company, since you paid for the product.
more123
02-01-2011, 03:00 PM
Your subscription purchase today includes enrollment in the Norton Automatic Renewal Service, allowing you to conveniently maintain your product subscription and critical protection. By enrolling in Norton Automatic Renewal Service, you authorize Symantec to automatically charge the then-current renewal subscription fee (plus applicable taxes) to your credit or debit card without any additional action by you prior to the expiration of your product subscription. You may cancel the Norton Automatic Renewal Service at any time by visiting your Norton Account at www.myNortonAccount.com and turning off the auto-renewal feature, or by contacting Norton Customer Service. Learn more about the Norton Automatic Renewal Service and how to
Wildpir8
02-01-2011, 03:14 PM
Your subscription purchase today includes enrollment in the Norton Automatic Renewal Service, allowing you to conveniently maintain your product subscription and critical protection. By enrolling in Norton Automatic Renewal Service, you authorize Symantec to automatically charge the then-current renewal subscription fee (plus applicable taxes) to your credit or debit card without any additional action by you prior to the expiration of your product subscription. You may cancel the Norton Automatic Renewal Service at any time by visiting your Norton Account at www.myNortonAccount.com and turning off the auto-renewal feature, or by contacting Norton Customer Service. Learn more about the Norton Automatic Renewal Service and how to
So turn off auto renew and/or use a virtual credit card # with a $ limit that expires next month.
trudo
02-01-2011, 04:12 PM
Thank you for this AWESOME Deal...Repped & voted:nod:
DigiDoc
02-01-2011, 04:41 PM
Great deal! just got my 360 for 3.99+tax. THX
lionelhuts
02-01-2011, 04:43 PM
Wow! Only $16 to slow down my computer??!!
Fibrocyte
02-01-2011, 04:47 PM
FYI - these are typically good deals to get antivirus and antispyware on your system. Once it is on, however, you end up paying full price per year per computer in order to keep it working. And I've seen cases where Norton 360 breaks TCP stacks on systems, etc, when the subscription expires.
I'd just use Windows Security Essentials suite. It's better. Also, it's free.
The absolute worst post I've ever seen on slickdeals. So much bullshit going on here.
You do not pay full price per year per system. You find another deal and enter a new code whenever the old one expires. *IF* this deal auto-enrolls you then simply turn it off.
Norton 360 (especially v3.0+) will not "break the TCP stack". When the license key expires it just shuts itself off. Windows alerts you of having no firewall and no AV, etc...
Windows Security Essentials suite is not better than N360v4.0.
Wow! Only $16 to slow down my computer??!!
What do you blame for your slow brain??!!
lionelhuts
02-01-2011, 05:03 PM
What do you blame for your slow brain??!!Good question.
I am speaking from personal experience with regard to its resource usage. I used to get this software free from my university and it definitely made a noticeable impact on the performance of each one of my three machines.
Fibrocyte
02-01-2011, 05:20 PM
Good question.
I am speaking from personal experience with regard to its resource usage. I used to get this software free from my university and it definitely made a noticeable impact on the performance of each one of my three machines.
Which version? N360 v1.0 and v2.0 certainly had performance issues. v3.0+ isn't even noticeable. People tout ESET for how lightweight it seems - Norton 360 is now right there with it.
lionelhuts
02-01-2011, 05:25 PM
Which version? N360 v1.0 and v2.0 certainly had performance issues. v3.0+ isn't even noticeable. People tout ESET for how lightweight it seems - Norton 360 is now right there with it.2.0 sounds about right. Glad to hear they made some improvements. My mistake.
skylitting
02-01-2011, 05:28 PM
Great deal! just got my 360 for 3.99+tax. THX
how did you get it to $3.99??
spinj
02-01-2011, 07:46 PM
if you use coupon code 40N360 it takes off $32 and the total will be $7.99+tax
nice, now it is worth buying and not having the hassle of rebates. hehe
before i was still willing to go through the hassle.
dealnabber
02-01-2011, 07:50 PM
how did you get it to $3.99??
i'd like to know too...
TonyX
02-01-2011, 07:59 PM
i'd like to know too...
40n360
dealnabber
02-01-2011, 08:01 PM
40n360
that code just makes it $7.99. DigiDoc said they got it for $3.99 plus tax. (not saying $7.99 is bad, but i'd just like to knock off half of that)
dealnabber
02-02-2011, 01:27 AM
delete
Buckeyefan 1
02-02-2011, 04:01 AM
Good question.
I am speaking from personal experience with regard to its resource usage. I used to get this software free from my university and it definitely made a noticeable impact on the performance of each one of my three machines.
I think he's being facetious. Any heavy software program like this will not increase the performance, but slow the system down while running 24/7 in the background. (assuming he wasn't running with a ton of spyware of virus' from porn surfing). Simply running any of the free ware or highjack this would have knocked out any issues, and sped up his system and let it run even faster. The more processes running at one time will only hinder the processor. Norton and McAfee are notorious for bogging down systems with limited memory.
Popolokous
02-02-2011, 06:30 AM
Is it dead? Everytime I put in a code it gives me a session time out screen.
Nevermind. It worked on the third computer I tried.
I think he's being facetious. Any heavy software program like this will not increase the performance, but slow the system down while running 24/7 in the background. (assuming he wasn't running with a ton of spyware of virus' from porn surfing). Simply running any of the free ware or highjack this would have knocked out any issues, and sped up his system and let it run even faster. The more processes running at one time will only hinder the processor. Norton and McAfee are notorious for bogging down systems with limited memory.
please do some research before you spew sheep facts.
from your own "Review" site
http://download.cnet.com/Norton-Internet-Security-2011/3000-18510_4-10592551.html
Here's a review of norton IS from Top Ten Reviews
http://internet-security-suite-review.toptenreviews.com/index.html
Here's PC World
http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/collection/3247/2010_suites.html
Here's Passmark's performance test back in 2009 when Norton 16.0 (Norton 2009) came out with the new revamped system.
AVG Free crashed a lot of computers with their update back in december
http://www.techtree.com/India/News/AVG_Antivirus_Update_Crashes_Windows_7_64-bit_PCs/551-113660-580.html
Avast Free isn't great for actually removing malware, it still struggles to clean a computer out.
It's a good free AV, but by no means is it rated better than symantec
And i'd actually recommend Avira + Malwarebyte combo over Avast.
you want an unbias review of antivirus software? go here
http://www.av-comparatives.org/index.php
Buckeyefan 1
02-02-2011, 09:43 AM
please do some research before you spew sheep facts.
from your own "Review" site
http://download.cnet.com/Norton-Internet-Security-2011/3000-18510_4-10592551.html
Here's a review of norton IS from Top Ten Reviews
http://internet-security-suite-review.toptenreviews.com/index.html
Here's PC World
http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/collection/3247/2010_suites.html
Here's Passmark's performance test back in 2009 when Norton 16.0 (Norton 2009) came out with the new revamped system.
AVG Free crashed a lot of computers with their update back in december
http://www.techtree.com/India/News/AVG_Antivirus_Update_Crashes_Windows_7_64-bit_PCs/551-113660-580.html
Avast Free isn't great for actually removing malware, it still struggles to clean a computer out.
It's a good free AV, but by no means is it rated better than symantec
And i'd actually recommend Avira + Malwarebyte combo over Avast.
you want an unbias review of antivirus software? go here
http://www.av-comparatives.org/index.php
Good info - but I still stand by using free software over purchasing it. I've been cleaning computers for years, and never once recommended someone pay for this type of software when there's excellent choices online for free. The only software that has given me issues is Norton and McAfee.
Mufta
02-02-2011, 09:52 AM
Any upgrade rebate available to make this deal even sweeter...
Good info - but I still stand by using free software over purchasing it. I've been cleaning computers for years, and never once recommended someone pay for this type of software when there's excellent choices online for free. The only software that has given me issues is Norton and McAfee.
then you keep on going with the tunnel vision
Never mind the fact that the free version in reviews don't equal the "pay" versions.
But its ok, you're not the only sheep.
spinj
02-02-2011, 01:12 PM
And i'd actually recommend Avira + Malwarebyte combo over Avast.
this is actually what i use and it works well. . although i can't say i'm
really going to the sites or following links that would get me in trouble.
does this deal get you updated to version 5.0 that comes out later in february?
this is actually what i use and it works well. . although i can't say i'm
really going to the sites or following links that would get me in trouble.
does this deal get you updated to version 5.0 that comes out later in february?
yeah norton gives you free updates to the latest version as long as your license is valid for their AV/IS software.
stevego
02-02-2011, 01:25 PM
Good info - but I still stand by using free software over purchasing it. I've been cleaning computers for years, and never once recommended someone pay for this type of software when there's excellent choices online for free. The only software that has given me issues is Norton and McAfee.
I guess ignorance really is bliss. Enjoy your free antivirus and your buckeyes! :wave:
Buckeyefan 1
02-02-2011, 01:46 PM
then you keep on going with the tunnel vision
Never mind the fact that the free version in reviews don't equal the "pay" versions.
But its ok, you're not the only sheep.
It's funny, most of my IT friends don't even use anti-malware software on their own systems. But those who do buy the paid versions usually seem to be the one's who haven't a clue how to get rid of a trojan or simple virus. There's a reason you are paying for it.
I guess ignorance really is bliss. Enjoy your free antivirus and your buckeyes! :wave:
Tucson, eh? Do they actually play sports in Tucson? Or do they watch Alice in Wonderland instead.
stevego
02-02-2011, 01:51 PM
Tucson, eh? Do they actually play sports in Tucson?
Yup, NCAA Basketball Championship in '97. Wow man, you must be the happiest dude in the world if ignorance is indeed bliss. Congrats to you.
It's funny, most of my IT friends don't even use anti-malware software on their own systems. But those who do buy the paid versions usually seem to be the one's who haven't a clue how to get rid of a trojan or simple virus. There's a reason you are paying for it.
Tucson, eh? Do they actually play sports in Tucson? Or do they watch Alice in Wonderland instead.
again, show me proof of your claim, not anecdotal evidence.
your "IT" friends are professional IT administrators in fortune 500 companies correct?
And i didn't say you have to buy this security suite, i said you SHOULD not be so closed minded to just dismiss something you're doing no research for.
buyitjody
02-02-2011, 09:45 PM
Please note that this is for the standard edition and not the premier. I thought it was the premier since they listed the retail as $79.99 (if you look at the extension prices for those who own it already, premier is $79.99 and standard is $69.99). Anyway, I bought it and then tried to put the key in my account and it said it was invalid. I got online with chat and they said since I had the premier, I could not extend with the key of a standard edition. I then asked for a refund for my purchase and they promptly did so.
Just thought I would try and save someone the trouble just in case you already have premier and were thinking of getting this to extend your current subscription...it won't work.
cubsfan2154
02-02-2011, 10:04 PM
Thanks, bought it and will install on the new computer im getting this weekend.
So I pulled the trigger on a computer that already has norton 4.0 installed and working. Am I right not to try to download anything, wait until my current subscription is about to expire (in December), then renew with the new product key?
Thanks, OP!
slickfanatic
02-02-2011, 10:24 PM
Tried to do this deal twice and was given an error notice on the second try. Perhaps we can only buy one set per name/CC ?
optik
02-02-2011, 10:48 PM
please do some research before you spew sheep facts.
from your own "Review" site
http://download.cnet.com/Norton-Internet-Security-2011/3000-18510_4-10592551.html
Here's a review of norton IS from Top Ten Reviews
http://internet-security-suite-review.toptenreviews.com/index.html
Here's PC World
http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/collection/3247/2010_suites.html
Here's Passmark's performance test back in 2009 when Norton 16.0 (Norton 2009) came out with the new revamped system.
AVG Free crashed a lot of computers with their update back in december
http://www.techtree.com/India/News/AVG_Antivirus_Update_Crashes_Windows_7_64-bit_PCs/551-113660-580.html
Avast Free isn't great for actually removing malware, it still struggles to clean a computer out.
It's a good free AV, but by no means is it rated better than symantec
And i'd actually recommend Avira + Malwarebyte combo over Avast.
you want an unbias review of antivirus software? go here
http://www.av-comparatives.org/index.php
From independent tests for various types of threats, NIS 2011 (on which norton 360 is based) earned a "Very Poor" rating in terms of protection.
http://www.matousec.com/projects/proactive-security-challenge/results.php
So much for a security suite. You can read where it fails in a more detailed report here:
http://www.matousec.com/projects/proactive-security-challenge/reports/PSC%20report%20-%20Norton%20Internet%20Security%202011%2018.1.0.37.pdf
As one can see from the results, there are FREE alternatives that fare much better and offer more protection.
Wildpir8
02-02-2011, 11:03 PM
From independent tests for various types of threats, NIS 2011 (on which norton 360 is based) earned a "Very Poor" rating in terms of protection.
http://www.matousec.com/projects/proactive-security-challenge/results.php
So much for a security suite. You can read where it fails in a more detailed report here:
http://www.matousec.com/projects/proactive-security-challenge/reports/PSC%20report%20-%20Norton%20Internet%20Security%202011%2018.1.0.37.pdf
As one can see from the results, there are FREE alternatives that fare much better and offer more protection.
What a shady @ss site. Under the "How you can help us" section they say:
"If you intend to buy a security software, you may be interested to buy one of the products we recommend in Proactive Security Challenge. Have a look at Products' ratings on the results page. The Recommendation column in the table contains links to the online stores or products' webpages of the vendors that we have affiliate agreements with. If you click on any of these links and then buy the target product or other product offered on the target webpage, we will profit from it. So, if you are going to buy a security software and you like our projects, you can help us! Even if you have the licence already, we can profit if you prolong the licence after you visit the vendor's website through our recommendation links. Thank you!
The rules for the recommended products are simple. The first condition is that the product's Protection level is at least Very good, which means that its final score is at least 80 %. The second condition is that we have an affiliate agreement with its vendor. It is important to note that if the recommended product is retested and does not reach the 80 % limit, it will not be recommended anymore, at least not until the next retesting."
You've been had. They're manipulating results so they can get suckers like yourself to click through to affiliate websites that pay up.
optik
02-03-2011, 12:19 AM
What a shady @ss site. Under the "How you can help us" section they say:
"If you intend to buy a security software, you may be interested to buy one of the products we recommend in Proactive Security Challenge. Have a look at Products' ratings on the results page. The Recommendation column in the table contains links to the online stores or products' webpages of the vendors that we have affiliate agreements with. If you click on any of these links and then buy the target product or other product offered on the target webpage, we will profit from it. So, if you are going to buy a security software and you like our projects, you can help us! Even if you have the licence already, we can profit if you prolong the licence after you visit the vendor's website through our recommendation links. Thank you!
The rules for the recommended products are simple. The first condition is that the product's Protection level is at least Very good, which means that its final score is at least 80 %. The second condition is that we have an affiliate agreement with its vendor. It is important to note that if the recommended product is retested and does not reach the 80 % limit, it will not be recommended anymore, at least not until the next retesting."
You've been had. They're manipulating results so they can get suckers like yourself to click through to affiliate websites that pay up.
You can see the results for yourself. The bigger sucker would be the uninformed buyer. The conditions you highlight of having affiliate agreements does that impact the actual test results.
You can see the results for yourself. The bigger sucker would be the uninformed buyer. The conditions you highlight of having affiliate agreements does that impact the actual test results.
the bigger sucker is the person who doesn't do any research on how they really test the products
You do realize how Matousec tests products right? They only test by Firewall service.
They disable the Antivirus component of all the tested software, only having the Firewall protection enabled.
Also here's response from the manufacturers regarding matousec's reviews
BitDefender:
Comment from Catalin Cosoi, Senior Researcher for BitDefender.
“Matousec described a very specific set of circumstances that need to be in place for this type of attack to be successful - as they point out, the attacker must already be able to run executable code of the user's machine.
McAfee:
"McAfee is aware of an article by researchers at Matousec that describes a way cyberattackers might be able to bypass numerous Windows security applications. Based on our initial review of the public documentation, we believe this is a complicated attack with several mitigating factors that make it unlikely to be a viable, real world, widespread attack scenario. For example, the attack would require some level of existing access to the target computer, as the attack described by Matousec does not on its own bypass security software or allow malware to run."
ESET:
Comment from David Harley, Director of Malware Intelligence for ESET.
“It's not exactly a new idea, except, apparently to Matousec, and except in the slightly misleading suggestion that it's specific to antivirus. It's actually a far more generic issue."
“If a specific malware threat appears that makes use of it, the AV industry will certainly address it specifically in the usual way. Now the idea has attracted so much attention, security developers may look at whether it is possible to forestall more-or-less generically tricks inspired by Matousec's re-interpretation of older research.
[See also: http://seclists.org/bugtraq/2003/Dec/351 -ED]
“However, to suggest that "today's most popular security solutions simply do not work" on the strength of a long-known race condition issue in the operating seems a little overstated.”
Sophos:
Sophos’ Senior Security Advisor Chester Wisniewski answered the three questions.
“It does not have an impact on Sophos products. While it may be interesting from a theoretical standpoint, it requires your machine to be infected with malware first, in which case all bets are off. The goal is to prevent infection in the first place. It also has requirements on hardware such as needing multiple cores and expects certain protective behaviours. To implement the attack on a single core would be quite complicated and not likely worth pursuing compared to other vulnerabilities that are easier to execute with similar results.”
Symantec:
Comments from Vincent Weafer, Vice President, Symantec Security Response.
“Symantec is aware of the research. This is a narrowly focused test that examines potential bypass techniques for any security solution that implements kernel mode hooking. This is precisely why Symantec adds multiple layers of security to our products in order to prevent malware, and in this case, even the code that would facilitate the substituting of benign code for malicious code, from getting onto users’ computers in the first place.
And on, and on, and on
So basically from what I can read up about it, its a specific case scenario that has to have all the stars aligned properly to replicate.
Mainly your computer has to be infected 1st, but if the initial infections are detectable by the AV, this "theory test" wouldn't even be able to execute.
http://www.thetechherald.com/article.php/201019/5611/Security-vendors-respond-to-Matousec-research
More articles about Matousec's "test"
http://www.dataprotectioncenter.com/antivirus/sunbelt/matousec-com-bait-and-switch-vulnerability-affects-most-av-products/
matousec.com bait-and-switch vulnerability affects most AV products
Researchers at matousec.com have reported a bait-and-switch vulnerability in the 30 leading anti-malware products on the market today including VIPRE. The vulnerability exploits Windows driver hooks in anti-virus programs, sending them a piece of non-malicious code to bypass security checks then exchanging it for malicious executables.
Although their report has resulted in screaming headlines worldwide, researchers have pointed out that the vulnerability has existed for years without anyone exploiting it. Also, to be successful, an attacker would need the ability to run code on a computer (in which case a victim has much larger problems than this) and the exploit code is very large.
Sunbelt Software Chief Technology Officer Eric Sites said: “The matousec.com blog published a possible attack method that could be used for researching actual vulnerabilities. All of the security products he listed may or may not be vulnerable to this method of attack. VIPRE uses SSDT hooks only for older version of Windows and then only sparingly where APIs provided by Microsoft don’t exist or are too buggy to use. VIPRE does not use SSDT hooks for 64-bit versions of Windows because of Microsoft’s PatchGuard technology and Microsoft new APIs for security software. That said we are reviewing our drivers to make sure our products are not vulnerable to the method of attack.
So yeah, its a selective test that only works if you're running XP 32 Bit or Windows 2000, and if your system's already been infected by malware, oh and if you disable your antivirus protection and only have the firewall enabled.
Who needs to be informed again?
And yes the site's questionable at best
the "get it now" are all referral links, they state the top free AV/Internet Security Suites as useless (Avast, Avira, etc all test on the bottom according to them)
and my personal favorite:
Every vendor has a right to request a paid Proactive Security Challenge testing, in which case its product will be tested in all levels regardless the results on each of the levels. After the vendor receives the results of the paid testing, it can either keep them private or request their publishing on our website, but such a request will be satisfied only if the previously published results for the tested product, if any, are at least one month old and if the tested version is stable and publicly available. There are no limits of the frequency of the paid tests.
So...if you get a bad review, just throw $$ at it until the review gets good
Right, what a joke of a testing site
Maybe you stop posting and educate yourself before steering others down the wrong path
optik
02-03-2011, 10:50 PM
the bigger sucker is the person who doesn't do any research on how they really test the products
You do realize how Matousec tests products right? They only test by Firewall service.
They disable the Antivirus component of all the tested software, only having the Firewall protection enabled.
Also here's response from the manufacturers regarding matousec's reviews
And on, and on, and on
So basically from what I can read up about it, its a specific case scenario that has to have all the stars aligned properly to replicate.
Mainly your computer has to be infected 1st, but if the initial infections are detectable by the AV, this "theory test" wouldn't even be able to execute.
http://www.thetechherald.com/article.php/201019/5611/Security-vendors-respond-to-Matousec-research
More articles about Matousec's "test"
http://www.dataprotectioncenter.com/antivirus/sunbelt/matousec-com-bait-and-switch-vulnerability-affects-most-av-products/
So yeah, its a selective test that only works if you're running XP 32 Bit or Windows 2000, and if your system's already been infected by malware, oh and if you disable your antivirus protection and only have the firewall enabled.
Who needs to be informed again?
And yes the site's questionable at best
the "get it now" are all referral links, they state the top free AV/Internet Security Suites as useless (Avast, Avira, etc all test on the bottom according to them)
and my personal favorite:
So...if you get a bad review, just throw $$ at it until the review gets good
Right, what a joke of a testing site
Maybe you stop posting and educate yourself before steering others down the wrong path
My whole point was that there are comparable, if not better, free alternatives that negate paid options such as this one from being a good deal. If you go back and look at the results, you can see that the top recommended product and the one with the best results after all the tests is Comodo Internet Security which is a FREE product. Additionally, even if they are only testing the firewall portion of the product, security suites such as norton should be able to pass these penetration tests successfully. I will assume you are aware that not all viruses and/or malware can be detected by an antivirus program, that is why they are constantly updated to be able to detect new threats. Therefore a second layer of defense, if not the primary in all actuality, should be the firewall component.
But go ahead and purchase this product and when it can't detect a suspicious outgoing connection from an undetected new malware program, you might want to give a program such as comodo a try. :)
virtual4desires
02-03-2011, 11:55 PM
Wow, i almost paid the 16.99 price. Was getting it all filled out and ready to pay when suddenly i decided and canceled it and lucky i did because i came back to read some of the posts and notice another code witch brought it down to 7.99. Jumped on it in a heart beat. I have 3 pc's and now there all covered!! thanks for this great slickdeal!
My whole point was that there are comparable, if not better, free alternatives that negate paid options such as this one from being a good deal. If you go back and look at the results, you can see that the top recommended product and the one with the best results after all the tests is Comodo Internet Security which is a FREE product. Additionally, even if they are only testing the firewall portion of the product, security suites such as norton should be able to pass these penetration tests successfully. I will assume you are aware that not all viruses and/or malware can be detected by an antivirus program, that is why they are constantly updated to be able to detect new threats. Therefore a second layer of defense, if not the primary in all actuality, should be the firewall component.
But go ahead and purchase this product and when it can't detect a suspicious outgoing connection from an undetected new malware program, you might want to give a program such as comodo a try. :)
you're a fool, if your computer is already compromised by malware, what the hell is the point of the firewall detecting a 2nd outgoing connection?
This test is testing the firewall component of this specific attack AFTER the fact the system has been compromised.
Guess what, the manufacturers and the people who tried to replicate Matousec's test show if the full security suites are active, the initial Malware infection would not occur, thus this test is invalid as the 1st step to actually do this exploit is stopped by the AV/IS security already.
Its like saying a computer will overheat if you don't have the cooling fans on from the vents, but if the cooling fans were on, the overheat issue wouldn't occur in the first place as the fans would ventilate the air.
Not to mention the stupid thing only works for Windows XP/Windows 2000 32 bit
Noone was able to run his BSODboot test on Windows 7 or 64bit Operating Systems
its a joke of a site, its a joke of a test. Not my fault you believe that just because Comodo IS paid them to test the product over and over again and patched this 1 exploit, means its a good test lol...
Have fun believing in specific ridiculous test scenarios that are skewed to favor specific companies that pay for the review.
surreal3k
02-04-2011, 07:05 AM
I think this is a great deal, despite the nay-sayers. Just read the reviews, and stop complaining.
optik
02-05-2011, 02:03 AM
you're a fool, if your computer is already compromised by malware, what the hell is the point of the firewall detecting a 2nd outgoing connection?
This test is testing the firewall component of this specific attack AFTER the fact the system has been compromised.
Guess what, the manufacturers and the people who tried to replicate Matousec's test show if the full security suites are active, the initial Malware infection would not occur, thus this test is invalid as the 1st step to actually do this exploit is stopped by the AV/IS security already.
Its like saying a computer will overheat if you don't have the cooling fans on from the vents, but if the cooling fans were on, the overheat issue wouldn't occur in the first place as the fans would ventilate the air.
Not to mention the stupid thing only works for Windows XP/Windows 2000 32 bit
Noone was able to run his BSODboot test on Windows 7 or 64bit Operating Systems
its a joke of a site, its a joke of a test. Not my fault you believe that just because Comodo IS paid them to test the product over and over again and patched this 1 exploit, means its a good test lol...
Have fun believing in specific ridiculous test scenarios that are skewed to favor specific companies that pay for the review.
You're so smart. There obviously is no risk in a piece of malware/virus/trojan communicating with a remote server and uploading, lets say for example your credit card info from its keylogger component right? Please review your notes on internet security from your community college CS classes and then get back to us with all your newly acquired knowledge.
Everyone else considering any deal on antivirus/security software should consider free options before spending money. :)
wealthisachoice
02-05-2011, 10:36 AM
With so many people are saying this is always FAR very often, that's not true.
FAR could be frequently for Antivirus 2011 but NOT that often with the 360 version.
I have been searching for a good deal on 360 since the last 6 months, the best I have seen is like 1 time FAR at Fry's with close to $80 rebates (2 different rebates), and don't forget you have to pay TAX at Fry's and that's $7 tax plus 2 big rebates.
Without rebate, the better deal in last 2 months is $20 at Dell or something close to that at OD/OM,
So this deal with $8 without rebate is definitely a very good deal if you are a 360 subscriber.
I purchased the Norton 360 4.0 3 user from Frys when it was FREE after rebate. I had to pay for shipping and tax which was less then $9.00. I received both rebates (update & other rebate) with NO challenges at all. They were prompt with it.
ab2cmiller
02-05-2011, 12:22 PM
Thank you OP and minmin001 for posting and updating this deal. $8 with no rebates is a great deal.
I wish every Norton deal discussion wouldn't degrade into a pissing match concerning the merits of free anti-virus options that are available.
If you don't like Norton, then please avoid this thread. Everyone here has heard this argument over and over. Even though you have your own opinion, nothing you say on this board will probably change anyone's mind. It amazes me how people feel it's their job to convince others on how stupid we are for having our own viewpoint.
BW5150
02-10-2011, 08:07 AM
Coupon is still active
Get it while u can :)
jbloggs
02-10-2011, 08:45 AM
Can the activation key be used on Norton IS 2011?
Geezerman
02-10-2011, 09:37 AM
I purchased the Norton 360 just now. I won't need it for a few months. I see it in my Norton Account. It has the download button, and key code. It says I have 60 days to download. I have a Norton 360 V.4 CD already. I'm assuming I can just use my Norton 360 CD and the key code whenever I want to install it in a few months, but since it says I have 60 days to download, I want to make sure that they don't deactivate the key in 60 days if I don't install it by then
Looks like deal is dead now. Tried to type the code in and it keeps on saying invalid.
john3xv1
02-17-2011, 08:54 AM
Appears the deal is dead. Neither the 30N360 or the 40N360 coupon code were recognized as valid. on 2/17/11.
glocklt4
02-17-2011, 09:00 AM
boooooo
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02-19-2011, 01:05 PM
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