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idkMyBFFist
04-04-2011, 05:56 AM
Southwest has started offering airplanes with sunroofs (http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9MCHJ980.htm)! :woot:


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Friday's flight carrying 118 people rapidly lost cabin pressure after the Boeing 737-300's fuselage ruptured -- causing a 5-foot-long tear -- just after takeoff from Phoenix.

Passengers recalled tense minutes after the hole ruptured overhead with a blast and they fumbled frantically for oxygen masks. Pilots made a controlled descent from 34,400 feet into a southwestern Arizona military base. No one was seriously injured.

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slutsky
04-04-2011, 06:55 AM
fresh air.

Iczer
04-04-2011, 07:06 AM
First plane with a sunroof

serra
04-04-2011, 09:16 AM
this is weird. just the night before this happened, i was watching an episode of 1000 ways to die.

a flight attendant was really mean to the passengers. she threw peanuts at them, told some "no" when they asked for pillows, blankets, etc.. she made everyone buckle up and she just stood there, in the middle of the aisles. couple of mins of just standing there, she got sucked out of the plane when the roof above her blown off.

they showed computerized images of what may of happened to her body when she flew up into the sky. like skin ripping and shredding off at a high rate of speed.

here's that episode http://www.spike.com/video-clips/pwmg9r/1000-ways-to-die-unfriendly-skies

daniel32
04-04-2011, 09:35 AM
this is weird. just the night before this happened, i was watching an episode of 1000 ways to die.

a flight attendant was really mean to the passengers. she threw peanuts at them, told some "no" when they asked for pillows, blankets, etc.. she made everyone buckle up and she just stood there, in the middle of the aisles. couple of mins of just standing there, she got sucked out of the plane when the roof above her blown off.

they showed computerized images of what may of happened to her body when she flew up into the sky. like skin ripping and shredding off at a high rate of speed.

here's that episode http://www.spike.com/video-clips/pwmg9r/1000-ways-to-die-unfriendly-skies

similar thing happened in real life, not sure about the peanuts or "no" part

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aloha_Airlines_Flight_243

Claudia365
04-04-2011, 10:24 AM
this is weird. just the night before this happened, i was watching an episode of 1000 ways to die.

a flight attendant was really mean to the passengers. she threw peanuts at them, told some "no" when they asked for pillows, blankets, etc.. she made everyone buckle up and she just stood there, in the middle of the aisles. couple of mins of just standing there, she got sucked out of the plane when the roof above her blown off.

they showed computerized images of what may of happened to her body when she flew up into the sky. like skin ripping and shredding off at a high rate of speed.

here's that episode http://www.spike.com/video-clips/pwmg9r/1000-ways-to-die-unfriendly-skies

I love that show..:worship:

ForeverDcember
04-04-2011, 10:27 AM
this is weird. just the night before this happened, i was watching an episode of 1000 ways to die.

a flight attendant was really mean to the passengers. she threw peanuts at them, told some "no" when they asked for pillows, blankets, etc.. she made everyone buckle up and she just stood there, in the middle of the aisles. couple of mins of just standing there, she got sucked out of the plane when the roof above her blown off.

they showed computerized images of what may of happened to her body when she flew up into the sky. like skin ripping and shredding off at a high rate of speed.

here's that episode http://www.spike.com/video-clips/pwmg9r/1000-ways-to-die-unfriendly-skies
WTF? What is that show? I've never heard of it.

Curtieson
04-04-2011, 10:44 AM
here's that episode http://www.spike.com/video-clips/pwmg9r/1000-ways-to-die-unfriendly-skies

That is flipping awesome!

I didn't think I had ever caught that show either, but after seeing the graphics (yellow tape) I do remember I caught one. It was about some kids that ran out of pot so they went out looking for something else...they were actually recording the whole thing, but they tried grass, oak leaves, pine cones, all sorts of stuff, then they found something and didn't know what it was, turned out it was poison oak and the reaction of smoking it caused their lungs to expand and suffocated them, plus they actually caught it all on tape.

Brynn
04-04-2011, 11:39 AM
I love that show..:worship:

Me too :whee:

I particularly remember the one where the guy is an alcoholic, and he asks his wife to do an enema of alcohol on him. Of course he quickly gets alcohol poisoning and dies :-/

Claudia365
04-04-2011, 12:00 PM
Me too :whee:

I particularly remember the one where the guy is an alcoholic, and he asks his wife to do an enema of alcohol on him. Of course he quickly gets alcohol poisoning and dies :-/

Did you catch the one with the couple who were always "excited" and decided to do it in top of a electric box and the guy got electrocuted while having sex. The girl just felt a slight sensation when his "thingy" gave off some slight shock..lol..

serra
04-04-2011, 12:07 PM
WTF? What is that show? I've never heard of it.
real life stories recreated for tv. it's an interesting show.

Count_Chocula
04-04-2011, 12:11 PM
First plane with a sunroof
you never heard of the wright brothers?

ikonoklast
04-04-2011, 01:30 PM
you never heard of the wright brothers?
That was a convertible.

Zoe Moon
04-04-2011, 03:24 PM
Hmmmm. Looks like it might be a design flaw with certain series of the 737.



The Federal Aviation Administration announced Monday it will require additional inspections of certain older model Boeing 737-series aircraft.


The inspections will initially apply to around 175 aircraft, 80 of which are U.S.-registered. Most of the aircraft registered in the U.S. are operated by Southwest Airlines.


Specifically, the FAA is requiring airlines to perform "electromagnetic inspections for fatigue damage" on certain 737-300, 737-400 and 737-500 Boeing aircraft.


Boeing said in a statement that it was cooperating with the FAA and was preparing a service bulletin that will recommend lap-joint inspections on certain 737-series aircraft.


http://money.cnn.com/2011/04/04/news/companies/southwest_airline/ (http://slickdeals.net/?&u2=http://money.cnn.com/2011/04/04/news/companies/southwest_airline/)

coulditbeSatan
04-04-2011, 03:44 PM
Ok that's it for me. From now on I'll only fly on the Concorde or I'll just drive there.

wuzzy
04-04-2011, 03:50 PM
They canceled 2 Southwest flights here.

General Ghoul
04-04-2011, 04:54 PM
WTF? What is that show? I've never heard of it.


Its not on Lifetime, that would explain why you haven't seen it.

ForeverDcember
04-04-2011, 06:08 PM
Its not on Lifetime, that would explain why you haven't seen it.
Excuse me? I have never watched Lifetime ever. Plus, I don't have cable :shake:

coulditbeSatan
04-04-2011, 06:28 PM
Excuse me? I have never watched Lifetime ever. Plus, I don't have cable :shake:No wonder you missed out on the opening of the ark of the covenant. It was PPV.

General Ghoul
04-04-2011, 06:37 PM
Excuse me? I have never watched Lifetime ever. Plus, I don't have cable :shake:


Don't have cable? Do you have running water? Outhouse?

Count_Chocula
04-05-2011, 04:21 AM
Don't have cable? Do you have running water? Outhouse?
watcha use to wipe yer ass? old sears roebuck catalogs or corncobs?

ForeverDcember
04-05-2011, 05:19 AM
No wonder you missed out on the opening of the ark of the covenant. It was PPV..
:mad:
Don't have cable? Do you have running water? Outhouse?
No point explaining to the ignorant.

VorlonFrog
04-05-2011, 05:36 AM
Me too :whee:

I particularly remember the one where the guy is an alcoholic, and he asks his wife to do an enema of alcohol on him. Of course he quickly gets alcohol poisoning and dies :-/
Farking n00b rookies :lol:

General Ghoul
04-05-2011, 05:37 AM
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:mad:

No point explaining to the ignorant.


But you do have the internet. Don't you know the kids are more likely to see your "movies" on the web than cable?

Brynn
04-05-2011, 06:20 AM
Farking n00b rookies :lol:

Have a better method? :P

Zoe Moon
04-05-2011, 05:50 PM
Boeing knew that certain older versions of its 737 could face serious cracking problems but didn't think the risk would arise so early in their careers. The company had advised airlines that the planes could make 60,000 flights before they needed to undergo detailed inspections of the relevant sections. On Tuesday, Boeing said that it miscalculated: it now recommends inspections after 30,000 flights, half the previous threshold.


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703806304576244782850491122.html (http://slickdeals.net/?&u2=http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703806304576244782850491122.html)

mrlaugh
04-05-2011, 07:01 PM
Hmmmm. Looks like it might be a design flaw with certain series of the 737.




http://money.cnn.com/2011/04/04/news/companies/southwest_airline/ (http://slickdeals.net/?&u2=http://money.cnn.com/2011/04/04/news/companies/southwest_airline/)

it's a design flaw the same way your car's bumper rusting off is a design flaw... maybe it could have been built to last longer, but at what cost (and with a plane, what additional weight?). these are all high life cycle aircraft, more than 30,000 take off and landings (the cycle of stresses associated with a flight are more important than age)

that said, the 737 has one of the worst records of modern airplanes, it's been involved in more than its share of wrecks over the years, and not just because it's a very popular commercial platform

Zoe Moon
04-05-2011, 07:47 PM
it's a design flaw the same way your car's bumper rusting off is a design flaw... maybe it could have been built to last longer, but at what cost (and with a plane, what additional weight?). these are all high life cycle aircraft, more than 30,000 take off and landings (the cycle of stresses associated with a flight are more important than age)

that said, the 737 has one of the worst records of modern airplanes, it's been involved in more than its share of wrecks over the years, and not just because it's a very popular commercial platform I understand your point but did you see the link on the post directly above your post? Because of previous cracking problems on earlier models of the 737's they redesigned that area and calculated with the redesign it wouldn't even need to be checked for cracks until a plane hit 60,000 flights. They have now changed that to 30,000 flights based on what has been found in the last few days. So it's a combination of a poor redesign (it didn't match their expectations) and/or poor calculations.




At Tuesday's news conference, Paul Richter, a chief project engineer at Boeing, said that problems with the aluminum sections now under scrutiny "weren't completely unanticipated," because the same places showed a tendency to crack in earlier versions of 737s. So Boeing redesigned the way those panels were held together by rivets. The cracking in the redesigned panels, however, caught the company by surprise.


Boeing engineers for years felt satisfied that the 570 737 jets world-wide with that particular design could safely make at least 60,000 flights without needing any inspections for subsurface cracks, Mr. Richter said.


That was until Friday, when the fuselage rupture opened in a Southwest jet that had made about 40,000 landings and takeoffs. Boeing and Southwest officials were again thrown off balance over the weekend after mechanics found worrisome fatigue cracks in other Southwest 737s.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703806304576244782850491122.html

mrlaugh
04-05-2011, 09:15 PM
I understand your point but did you see the link on the post directly above your post? Because of previous cracking problems on earlier models of the 737's they redesigned that area and calculated with the redesign it wouldn't even need to be checked for cracks until a plane hit 60,000 flights. They have now changed that to 30,000 flights based on what has been found in the last few days. So it's a combination of a poor redesign (it didn't match their expectations) and/or poor calculations.

aluminum does not have a fatigue life the way steel does (as an engineer friend pointed out to me after I posted that)... it's very hard to predict, from what I understand, and inspection is nearly the only option to make sure things are okay - I guess I was merely commenting because I find that its interesting what people are saying about the issue, given that most people know even less about the engineering than I do, especially given the issue as identified in the first link, it's not what most people would consider a 'design flaw'