Bachman Promises $2/Gallon Gas if Elected

[Rebound]

I'm flabbergasted that anybody in America is dumb enough to believe this stupid, lying woman:

http://money.cnn.com/2011/08/18/news/economy/bachmann_gas_prices/?iref=NS1

"Under President Bachmann you will see gasoline come down below $2 a gallon again," Bachmann told a crowd Tuesday in South Carolina. "That will happen."

Drill baby drill won't lower gas prices

That's because the amount of extra oil that could be produced from more drilling in this country is tiny compared to what the country -- and the world -- consumes. Plus, any extra oil the United States did produce would likely be quickly offset by a cut in OPEC production.

According to a 2009 study from the government's Energy Information Administration, opening up to drilling areas off the East Coast, West Coast and the west coast of Florida would yield an extra 500,000 barrels a day by 2030. The world currently consumes 89 million barrels a day, and by then would likely be using over 100 million barrels.

After OPEC got done adjusting its production to reflect the increased American output, gas prices might drop a whopping three cents a gallon, the study said.

[PhucilliJerry]

She's clueless. Ron Paul has my vote whether he wins the R nomination or not. The rest of the field is a complete joke.

[fool4christ]

Of course it is nonsense, but her people can always fall back on the "she never said how long they'd hit $2 a gallon, or what $2 a gallon really meant." Is it $1.999 per gallon, or is $2.999 sufficient? Is one day enough? I'd bet she could force nationwide average prices down to $1.999 a gallon for a few days if she released everything from the strategic reserve... or threatened to. This is no different than "XYZ millions of jobs created or saved" nonsense.

[Kamyl]

I'm flabbergasted that anybody in America is dumb enough to believe this stupid, lying woman:

She got your attention. Which imo, is what she wanted?

Now, anyone that's foolish enough to believe this is just as dumb. Unless you be living under a rock, politicians make promises like this all the time. Look at Obama. It got him the Presidency.

[Candide]

This woman is just as insane as Pelosi. How do they keep getting elected?

[REDCELL]

I'm flabbergasted that anybody in America is dumb enough to believe this stupid, lying woman:
.



Ive been saying that about Barry...not the woman part...for about 4 years now. Longer if you were from Illinois.....

[andyfico]

I'm flabbergasted that anybody in America is dumb enough to believe this stupid, lying woman:

http://money.cnn.com/2011/08/18/news/economy/bachmann_gas_prices/?iref=NS1

"Under President Bachmann you will see gasoline come down below $2 a gallon again," Bachmann told a crowd Tuesday in South Carolina. "That will happen."

Drill baby drill won't lower gas prices

That's because the amount of extra oil that could be produced from more drilling in this country is tiny compared to what the country -- and the world -- consumes. Plus, any extra oil the United States did produce would likely be quickly offset by a cut in OPEC production.

According to a 2009 study from the government's Energy Information Administration, opening up to drilling areas off the East Coast, West Coast and the west coast of Florida would yield an extra 500,000 barrels a day by 2030. The world currently consumes 89 million barrels a day, and by then would likely be using over 100 million barrels.

After OPEC got done adjusting its production to reflect the increased American output, gas prices might drop a whopping three cents a gallon, the study said.
She's a politician. If you expected a politician to not make grand statements to get votes then I don't know what to say to you. People were dumb enough and fell for it in 2008 when they voted for this stupid, lying man.

[Numeral]

Well, if the world wide economy goes into a recession, as seems to be the case at the moment, we will see falling oil prices and undoubtably lower fuel costs at the pump.

I do like the idea of producing greater amounts of energy in the US though. Natural gas fracking looking interesting. It would help with job creation.

[paperboy05]

http://money.cnn.com/2011/08/18/news/economy/bachmann_gas_prices/?iref=NS1

"Under President Bachmann you will see gasoline come down below $2 a gallon again," Bachmann told a crowd Tuesday in South Carolina. "That will happen."
Well this is going to bite her in the ass, unfortunately the voting population eats this stuff up and then eats it again after the one making promises is elected.

[bonkman]

The Republican party makes me cry. It's sad that they continue to promote individuals who make insane statements when they have excellent candidates who they shun -- 2000 McCain, Paul, ...

[shhaggy]

$2/gallon gas is easy to accomplish. Just subsidize it like Chavez does in Venezuela. Gas is 12 cents a gallon there. Clearly Bachman is a socialist in disguise.

[brbubba]

Well, if the world wide economy goes into a recession, as seems to be the case at the moment, we will see falling oil prices and undoubtably lower fuel costs at the pump.

I do like the idea of producing greater amounts of energy in the US though. Natural gas fracking looking interesting. It would help with job creation.

Minus the fact that fracking obliterates the local water table for years to come.

I'm really tired of politicians making promises they can't keep. They need to institute a legally binding clause for all political promises.

[Rebound]

I'm glad to see that everyone agrees that her promise is a bald-faced lie.

[TRNT]

I'm glad to see that everyone agrees that her promise is a bald-faced lie.Actually I think she was as sincere there as when she said "submission" is the same mutual respect.

:lmao:

Next she is gonna claim:

Submission is the sincerest form of flattery

[nobama]

I'm glad to see that everyone agrees that her promise is a bald-faced lie.I'm glad to see that everyone agrees that BHObummer is the bald-faced liar-in-chief.

[brbubba]

I'm glad to see that everyone agrees that her promise is a bald-faced lie.

Well she might try to do that, but I don't think she'll be successful. There's a difference between ability to do something and an actual attempt to do something.

On the other Obama's pledges to close Guantanamo, repeal the Patriot act, stop warrantless wiretaps and stop extraordinary rendition were all bald faced lies.

[bonkman]

Well she might try to do that, but I don't think she'll be successful. There's a difference between ability to do something and an actual attempt to do something.

On the other Obama's pledges to close Guantanamo, repeal the Patriot act, stop warrantless wiretaps and stop extraordinary rendition were all bald faced lies.
And yet conservatives dislike him, even though he maintained all of those programs that were (mostly) lauded under a conservative administration.

weird.

[barnz008]

Too high.

She should've said $1.

Just watch, n00bs.

[JimOfTroy]

Politicians like to utilize tried and true methods. Being completely full of shit worked last time, why not this time?

[paperboy05]

And yet conservatives dislike him, even though he maintained all of those programs that were (mostly) lauded under a conservative administration.

weird.
Just because there may have been some conservatives that liked those 4 aspects of the Bush admin, doesn't mean conservatives in general should like Obama. Not sure why you would think that. Weird.

And no, the past administration wasn't "conservative".

[Doctor_Wu]

Is it more disturbing if she is lying or if she believes this to be possible & under the control of the President?

We assume she is lying... which makes us relax and take her to be just another shameless politician. But maybe it's worse and she really thinks we could get back to $2 a gallon.

There is actually a way to get to $2 a gallon... just oversee another economic calamity... perhaps that is her plan.

[TRNT]

And no, the past administration wasn't "conservative".But the present one is libral. Right?

[TheObserver84]

The Republican party makes me cry. It's sad that they continue to promote individuals who make insane statements when they have excellent candidates who they shun -- 2000 McCain, Paul, ...

That's because they pick the candidates who are more likely to win the election rather than the better candidate. I agree it is sad. However, I don't think anyone has to worry about this loon Bachman winning.

[124nic8]

There is actually a way to get to $2 a gallon... just oversee another economic calamity... perhaps that is her plan.

That's entirely believeable esp since she advocated that the government default on its obligations; the mere threat of which roiled the markets.

However, I believe her MO is to promise whatever she believes is popular with her base regardless as to whether it is a realistic possibility.

Just like Newt before he was Speaker, she is more of a bomb thrower than a reponsible leader.

[bonkman]

That's because they pick the candidates who are more likely to win the election rather than the better candidate. I agree it is sad. However, I don't think anyone has to worry about this loon Bachman winning.
Think about what you just said. Isn't that a weird statement? That the person most likely to win isn't the best one?

Sad state of affairs, huh?

[Xygonn]

I think there will be backlash against this ridiculous statement. I hope it knocks her out of the race.

Think about what you just said. Isn't that a weird statement? That the person most likely to win isn't the best one?

Sad state of affairs, huh?

Yes. As Plato said:

Whereas the truth is that the State in which the rulers are most reluctant to govern is always the best and most quietly governed, and the State in which they are most eager, the worst.

[bonkman]

I think there will be backlash against this ridiculous statement. I hope it knocks her out of the race.



Yes. As Plato said:
I think Dumbledore paraphrased that more recently ;)

[Ryu-bom]

Im pretty sure she and her husband will use prayer to find this illusive cheap oil....

That or unless she has a master war plan under her sleeves, just like how Bush and Cheney promised us cheap oil by going to war with Iraq

[Xygonn]

I think Dumbledore paraphrased that more recently ;)

I really do think it is a huge problem. Basically all politicians today ascribe to Machiavelian principles as it pertains to winning. Perhaps not all prefer to be feared rather than loved, but that isn't the crux of the issue. The problem is that all ruling politics has become about winning or losing, and not about being rational.

[Ryu-bom]

Just because there may have been some conservatives that liked those 4 aspects of the Bush admin, doesn't mean conservatives in general should like Obama. Not sure why you would think that. Weird.

And no, the past administration wasn't "conservative".


Ahhhh... so Constitution and freedom loving conservatives, liked the Patriot Act, warrentless wiretapping, Gitmo, and rendition ( aka KIDNAPPING )

interesting........

[paperboy05]

Ahhhh... so Constitution and freedom loving conservatives, liked the Patriot Act, warrentless wiretapping, Gitmo, and rendition ( aka KIDNAPPING )

interesting........
Some conservatives may have, some liberals may have, some independents may have.

Not really all that interesting.

[Ryu-bom]

Nope, not surprised you misread my quote though.

Ain't no misreading...... You just admitted what was already known, but refuse to acknowlwdge by your side

[paperboy05]

Ain't no misreading......
Yes you did, reread it, but this time not the quantifier "some" before "conservatives".

[Ryu-bom]

Yes you did, reread it, but this time not the quantifier "some" before "conservatives".

which would include you in that group......right

[paperboy05]

which would include you in that group......right
Not on all 4 nope.

[cruizerfish]

Political theatrics aside, unless we change course on our energy policy; domestic drilling is unavoidable.

[Ryu-bom]

http://themoderatevoice.com/wordpress-engine/files/2007-october/01hemp.jpg

Not until people wake up and legalize this crop, that has millions of uses ( at least in regards to bio-fuel )

[Deusxmachina]

Ahhhh... so Constitution and freedom loving conservatives, liked the Patriot Act, warrentless wiretapping, Gitmo, and rendition ( aka KIDNAPPING )

interesting........
mmmmmmNo.

[Ryu-bom]

mmmmmmNo.


maybe not the first two, but they pretty much ok with Gitmo and rendition ( Kiddnapping, but of course you can't use that since it is a CRIME, so they come up with a nicer word for basically the same act )

[idkMyBFFist]

She's an idiot... the only way she'll get it that cheap is if she's giving OT's behind the gas station to make up the difference

[bonkman]

I really do think it is a huge problem. Basically all politicians today ascribe to Machiavelian principles as it pertains to winning. Perhaps not all prefer to be feared rather than loved, but that isn't the crux of the issue. The problem is that all ruling politics has become about winning or losing, and not about being rational.
Agreed 100%. I haven't been around long enough to perceive if this has always been the case, but it seems to me that it's gotten much worse since Karl Rove was successful.

[JimOfTroy]

Agreed 100%. I haven't been around long enough to perceive if this has always been the case, but it seems to me that it's gotten much worse since Karl Rove was successful.
At a minimum it goes back to Woodrow Wilson who campaigned on not getting involved in WWI and within months of getting into office went to war. But more than likely it goes back much further than that.

[Ryu-bom]

Yup like when they wrote that ALL men are free and equal and they go about enslaving blacks

[bonkman]

At a minimum it goes back to Woodrow Wilson who campaigned on not getting involved in WWI and within months of getting into office went to war. But more than likely it goes back much further than that.
Oh, I know that politicians have been lying to get into office for longer than the US has been around.

I mean has it been that parties are putting forward candidates that are not the best/most rational because they're the most personable/most polarizing.

When I word it that way, the answer must be forever :)

[JimOfTroy]

Oh, I know that politicians have been lying to get into office for longer than the US has been around.

I mean has it been that parties are putting forward candidates that are not the best/most rational because they're the most personal.

When I word it that way, the answer must be forever :)
Ahh, I see what you're saying. Yeah, you're pretty much right. There have been a few good ones to sneak in there though.

[Candide]

Agreed 100%. I haven't been around long enough to perceive if this has always been the case, but it seems to me that it's gotten much worse since Karl Rove was successful.
The change stated before Rove. I started noticing it with the Bork and Thomas nominations. All rationality left the discussions and hostility was the only thing left.

[The2AMBearArms]

I'm flabbergasted that anybody in America is dumb enough to believe this stupid, lying woman:

http://money.cnn.com/2011/08/18/news/economy/bachmann_gas_prices/?iref=NS1

"Under President Bachmann you will see gasoline come down below $2 a gallon again," Bachmann told a crowd Tuesday in South Carolina. "That will happen."

Drill baby drill won't lower gas prices

That's because the amount of extra oil that could be produced from more drilling in this country is tiny compared to what the country -- and the world -- consumes. Plus, any extra oil the United States did produce would likely be quickly offset by a cut in OPEC production.

According to a 2009 study from the government's Energy Information Administration, opening up to drilling areas off the East Coast, West Coast and the west coast of Florida would yield an extra 500,000 barrels a day by 2030. The world currently consumes 89 million barrels a day, and by then would likely be using over 100 million barrels.

After OPEC got done adjusting its production to reflect the increased American output, gas prices might drop a whopping three cents a gallon, the study said.

I agree. Anyone who claims that they will lower the price of a commodity subject to market forces is too stupid to hold office.

[Ryu-bom]

LOL!!!!!!!!! and yet you can blame the president for not creating jobs........:lmao:

[Doctor_Wu]

Yup like when they wrote that ALL men are free and equal and they go about enslaving blacks

Your timetable is off. Read about the founders as you encourage others to do on a variety of topics. Slavery was already long established in American and in world history, and the founders knew it to be a contradiction with their doctrine of 'all men are created equal'. But they also knew that if they salvaged their intellectual purity and formed the union w/o slaves, the south would not have joined. This would have resulted in two outcomes. The union would be weaker w/o the south and vulnerable to foreign powers. And it seems to me that had the south formed a separate union, it would have had even less incentive to resolve the issue of slavery. The impulse to destroy the institution of slavery was established by our founding documents. The founders knew that it was a problem that would have to be addressed by future generations.

[Hawk2007]

LOL!!!!!!!!! and yet you can blame the president for not creating jobs........:lmao:



LOL!!!!!!!!!! He said that he would create jobs!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!

[124nic8]

LOL!!!!!!!!!! He said that he would create jobs!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quote please.

[Elmer]

It is interesting how a thread is created to attack a politician about a promise that no one knows if it could be kept, or not......

Of course, we'll never know, as she doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of becoming president.....:D

[lovelyssm]

Ron Paul 2012! Heh, I think he actually has a legit shot this time!

[lovelyssm]

Agreed 100%. I haven't been around long enough to perceive if this has always been the case, but it seems to me that it's gotten much worse since Karl Rove was successful.

It is said in baseball that umpires are doing a good job if you don't notice them. Perhaps that's the way it should be with our political leaders.

[PartyInTheUSA]

With the elimination of the federal and state fuel taxes, along with extra drilling, and a few subsidies its probably possible to get gas prices below $3. But you'd all rather spend the money on an oversized military and Laquisha's 5 kids.

[Hawk2007]

Drill baby drill won't lower gas prices




But releasing the strategic petroleum reserve will? Removing Bush from office so that he can't make his oil buddies in Texas rich will?

Every farking day, liberals remind us how much big oil is a conservative enterprise, but when a true conservative comments on oil, suddenly liberals are the farking experts on the oil field. WTF? Make up your mind....

When gas is $4 a gallon, does it make Bush or Obama's buddies rich? Choose one. If it's Bush's buddies becoming rich, then why the hell doesn't Obama do something so that gas goes back to a reasonable price?

(keep in mind, gas prices largely don't affect all of us rich, evil, white conservatives like myself. It affects all the blacks and single parents that democrats love to claim they're out there for.)

Decide on a stereotype before getting back to me...

[Gotchaforce]

But releasing the strategic petroleum reserve will? Removing Bush from office so that he can't make his oil buddies in Texas rich will?

Every farking day, liberals remind us how much big oil is a conservative enterprise, but when a true conservative comments on oil, suddenly liberals are the farking experts on the oil field. WTF? Make up your mind....

When gas is $4 a gallon, does it make Bush or Obama's buddies rich? Choose one. If it's Bush's buddies becoming rich, then why the hell doesn't Obama do something so that gas goes back to a reasonable price?

(keep in mind, gas prices largely don't affect all of us rich, evil, white conservatives like myself. It affects all the blacks and single parents that democrats love to claim they're out there for.)

Decide on a stereotype before getting back to me...

This is a weird abstract argument. Im not interested in playing a bunch of guessing games about how you think the oil market works like "do you think oil directly correlates to a crude oil market supply and demand?" because its a waste of everyones time.. so to get to the point: oil markets are largely speculative, the reason gas prices can fluctuate and spike over $4 so easily is not because of supply, but because speculators can go long on oil. It makes speculators rich, which are basically banks like goldman sachs, which lobby to obama, and every president since their existence, so it makes both sides of the aisles rich.
http://pastebin.com/ZC1ArFJ7

[Hawk2007]

This is a weird abstract argument. Im not interested in playing a bunch of guessing games about how you think the oil market works like "do you think oil directly correlates to a crude oil market supply and demand?" because its a waste of everyones time.. so to get to the point: oil markets are largely speculative, the reason gas prices can fluctuate and spike over $4 so easily is not because of supply, but because speculators can go long on oil. It makes speculators rich, which are basically banks like goldman sachs, which lobby to obama, and every president since their existence, so it makes both sides of the aisles rich.
http://pastebin.com/ZC1ArFJ7


In 2007-2008, I would never have seen this much apologism for gas prices.

So, indirectly you agree with me that Bush didn't drive oil prices up to make his oil buddies rich. If that were the case, Obama is driving oil prices up to make his oil buddies rich as well??

[Gotchaforce]

In 2007-2008, I would never have seen this much apologism for gas prices.

So, indirectly you agree with me that Bush didn't drive oil prices up to make his oil buddies rich. If that were the case, Obama is driving oil prices up to make his oil buddies rich as well??

Im not sure exactly how bush would drive up oil prices, so i cant say one way or another that he didnt somehow play into the hands of wealthy friends in texas who owned big oil companies. Thats the thing with lobbying.. you tend to figure out how to make the politicians work for you.

[courtjester]

It is interesting how a thread is created to attack a politician about a promise that no one knows if it could be kept, or not......

Of course, we'll never know, as she doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of becoming president.....:D

Exactly. Why are we even talking about Bachman. Everyone knows she's batshit crazy and has zero chance of being President.

It's almost like making fun of a retarded person. :shake:

[Elmer]

Exactly. Why are we even talking about Bachman. Everyone knows she's batshit crazy and has zero chance of being President.

It's almost like making fun of a retarded person. :shake:

Who said anything about Pelosi?

[Rebound]

It is interesting how a thread is created to attack a politician about a promise that no one knows if it could be kept, or not......

Of course, we'll never know, as she doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of becoming president.....:DHere's why I started the thread: She's a leading Republican Presidential candidate. SOMEBODY's giving her the millions of dollars necessary to stay in the game. It's not her own money -- there are people put there who are backing her nonsense and taking her seriously, and the other candidates have to respond to all the crazy things she says. The average voter only has an IQ of 100.

[REDCELL]

Here's why I started the thread: She's a leading Republican Presidential candidate. SOMEBODY's giving her the millions of dollars necessary to stay in the game. It's not her own money -- there are people put there who are backing her nonsense and taking her seriously, and the other candidates have to respond to all the crazy things she says. The average voter only has an IQ of 100.

More interesting to me is that the MSM has gotten back to doing its job of Vetting.....

...better late...and half way...than never I guess.

[Elmer]

Here's why I started the thread: She's a leading Republican Presidential candidate. SOMEBODY's giving her the millions of dollars necessary to stay in the game. It's not her own money -- there are people put there who are backing her nonsense and taking her seriously, and the other candidates have to respond to all the crazy things she says. The average voter only has an IQ of 100.

I agree, that's how Obama got elected.

Do you feel as strongly about all the crazy things he promised but hasn't delivered?

[Deusxmachina]

(keep in mind, gas prices largely don't affect all of us rich, evil, white conservatives like myself. It affects all the blacks and single parents that democrats love to claim they're out there for.)

Decide on a stereotype before getting back to me...
That's a thing that gets me. Al Gore, Democratic champion of the poor, can say he wants to raise gas taxes so high that it makes the internal-combustion engine extinct, and higher gas taxes of course make poor people pay more for gas and things related to gas use, but no one "for the poor" calls him on it. Same with Obama's energy czar guy or whoever who said he wants prices to be higher.

And it's so nice of the American people to bail out GM for billions, have the Obama administration get in there and join it at the hip, and then the CEO says the gas tax should be raised $1 per gallon. I bet poor people will really love that.
so to get to the point: oil markets are largely speculative, the reason gas prices can fluctuate and spike over $4 so easily is not because of supply, but because speculators can go long on oil. It makes speculators rich, which are basically banks like goldman sachs, which lobby to obama, and every president since their existence, so it makes both sides of the aisles rich.
http://pastebin.com/ZC1ArFJ7
Since speculators apparently never sell so oil comes down, they only buy, looks like Joe Citizen should just buy oil and never sell it too.

[Mixels]

I agree, that's how Obama got elected.

Do you feel as strongly about all the crazy things he promised but hasn't delivered?
Change!

[REDCELL]

Im pretty sure she and her husband will use prayer to find this illusive cheap oil....

That or unless she has a master war plan under her sleeves, just like how Bush and Cheney promised us cheap oil by going to war with Iraq


...I dont suppose you can provide ANY evidence that either one of them ever said that was the reason...or that it would be a result either...

[Elmer]

...I dont suppose you can provide ANY evidence that either one of them ever said that was the reason...or that it would be a result either...


http://littlestorieseverywhere.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/crickets-300x269.jpg

[bonkman]

It is said in baseball that umpires are doing a good job if you don't notice them. Perhaps that's the way it should be with our political leaders.
Hmmm....I'd say that would be the case if we lived in a utopia. There are still problems in this world that need fixing and they're the ones who are supposed to do it.

But I definitely agree that we notice them too much, now. And for the wrong reasons.

[TRNT]

When she said $2, she must have meant two BIBLICAL dollars. You ask, how much is a biblical dollar? It is however much that would make her statement true.

Same as "universe was created 6000 years ago" and "universe was created in 7 days."

[REDCELL]

Its not like she said she was going to keep the seas from rising or heal the earth or end wars or create jobs or anything totally stupid....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGD5O8_Thhk&feature=related

[SigX]

this is great. the same people that can't seem to hold obama accountable for anything he promised to deliver on can't wait to call other politicians out for things seemingly just as difficult (if not more) to deliver on. great stuff, very entertaining.

[PhucilliJerry]

this is great. the same people that can't seem to hold obama accountable for anything he promised to deliver on can't wait to call other politicians out for things seemingly just as difficult (if not more) to deliver on. great stuff, very entertaining.

Exactly, and this is what sickens me the most about politics. The issues don't really matter to most, except when their party has to deal with them. Just like the debt ceiling issue. When the Repubs are in power to raise it the Dems say it is awful and a lack of leadership, when the Dems are in power the Repubs say it's the wrong thing to do and blah blah blah. It's either right or wrong, who has the power has no bearing on whether something is the right thing to do or the wrong thing to do. Freakin drives me crazy.

[papitosabe]

She got your attention. Which imo, is what she wanted?

Now, anyone that's foolish enough to believe this is just as dumb. Unless you be living under a rock, politicians make promises like this all the time. Look at Obama. It got him the Presidency.

funny thing is, that is what several politicians do, make false promises and some sound great when they say it...ex. Obama...I will admit, he got me, he lured me in, i bit...
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