OFFICIAL: SlickDeals.net Folding@Home Team Getting Started, Discussion, Bragging, and Community Support Thread

[grizli]

Nobody passed any major milestones this week. :(

I do, however, offer my congratulations to grizli for passing me and moving into 4th place on the SD team.
Congrats right back at you :D You took it back :)

[Exnihilo Mundus]

Congrats right back at you :D You took it back :)

True, but only for a few more hours.
I just can not withstand the onslaught of your massive awesomeness of pointitude. :worship: ;)

[grizli]

It's hard to keep it going... I already had to shut down 3 machines. Avg will drop a little. Electric bills were.... crazy :) Unfortunately, I ran a lot of old equipment. Maybe I should ask SD for awesome folding rig and I'll provide the power and space lol :D Didn't eVGA use to do that or something?

[Exnihilo Mundus]

Congratulations to all the million(s) milestone folders for the past week.

11 Million
grizli
Exnihilo Mundus

3 Million
Phucilli

Keep up the great job folding everyone! :cool:

[robintrade]

Alright folks. Looking for some help here. I posted here a few months ago that that f@h software kept shutting down. There was some sort of a problem with .net framework. Someone suggested I uninstall .net and re-install it. I removed all .net software. Then went to the .net website and downloaded v.4. Still had the same problems, so I stopped folding.
Decided a few days ago to give it another try. I was able to fold for maybe 48 hours. Then the same problems again.
I copied the log this time and will post below. Am hoping someone can offer a fix.

Here is the crash log:
See the end of this message for details on invoking
just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box.

************** Exception Text **************
System.Runtime.InteropServices.ExternalException: A generic error occurred in GDI+.
at System.Drawing.Graphics.get_Clip()
at System.Drawing.GraphicsContext..ctor(Graphics g)
at System.Drawing.Graphics.Save()
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmPaint(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ScrollableControl.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStrip.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.StatusStrip.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)


************** Loaded Assemblies **************
mscorlib
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.5448 (Win7SP1GDR.050727-5400)
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v2.0.50727/mscorlib.dll
----------------------------------------
FAH GPU Tracker V2
Assembly Version: 3.5.2.0
Win32 Version: 3.5.2.0
CodeBase: file:///C:/Users/ROBINQ~1/AppData/Local/Temp/FAH_GPU_Tracker_V2/FAH%20GPU%20Tracker%20V2/FAH%20GPU%20Tracker%20V2.exe
----------------------------------------
Microsoft.VisualBasic
Assembly Version: 8.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 8.0.50727.5420 (Win7SP1.050727-5400)
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/Microsoft.VisualBasic/8.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/Microsoft.VisualBasic.dll
----------------------------------------
System
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.5447 (Win7SP1GDR.050727-5400)
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Windows.Forms
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.5446 (Win7SP1GDR.050727-5400)
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Windows.Forms/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Windows.Forms.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Drawing
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.5420 (Win7SP1.050727-5400)
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Drawing/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Drawing.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Runtime.Remoting
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.5420 (Win7SP1.050727-5400)
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Runtime.Remoting/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Runtime.Remoting.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Configuration
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.5420 (Win7SP1.050727-5400)
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Configuration/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Configuration.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Xml
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.5420 (Win7SP1.050727-5400)
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Xml/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Xml.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Management
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.5420 (Win7SP1.050727-5400)
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Management/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Management.dll
----------------------------------------

************** JIT Debugging **************
To enable just-in-time (JIT) debugging, the .config file for this
application or computer (machine.config) must have the
jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
The application must also be compiled with debugging
enabled.

For example:

<configuration>
<system.windows.forms jitDebugging="true" />
</configuration>

When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the computer
rather than be handled by this dialog box.

I'm running a Phenom ll Deneb x6 1090T overclocked to 3.8Ghz. I had the problem even when I was not OC
I have a radeon 6850 installed, but I am not using the GPU folding
TIA for any help
Robin

[grizli]

Do you have any CPU optimizers installed from AMD?

[robintrade]

Do you have any CPU optimizers installed from AMD?

Yes. I have the AMD OverDrive program installed. I am using it to overclock the CPU. I think factory setting for this chip is 3.4Ghz. I am running it at 3.8Ghz.

[grizli]

They have legacy code for dual core CPUs in their optimizer, which gets referenced, though never called, hence it conflicts with FaH's core. Don't ask me where I read that, but I remember this has been a problem for years since dual core Athlons came out.

[noaht]

It's officially cold here, which means I can switch machines back on! Also, we had a machine with a w3690 sitting around, so I've added some 6-core goodness to the pack. It still breaks my brainbits that this machine won't get the new bigadv.

[Exnihilo Mundus]

It's officially cold here, which means I can switch machines back on! Also, we had a machine with a w3690 sitting around, so I've added some 6-core goodness to the pack. It still breaks my brainbits that this machine won't get the new bigadv.


Hooray for cold!
It's cold enough here that I have turned on an extra machine (for heat). :)

[noaht]

I just sealed off my heating vent and turned on 2 more machines.....and so far it's pretty much balanced out

[noaht]

So, extremeoverclocking must be having some sort of issue. shows as no points for the last couple of days.... are any other trackers having that issue?

[Exnihilo Mundus]

So, extremeoverclocking must be having some sort of issue. shows as no points for the last couple of days.... are any other trackers having that issue?

It's not extremeoverclocking, it's the Stanford stats server. Check it out here: http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=20214

I'm just hoping that the WUs are still being collected and credited correctly.

[grizli]

Looks like everything got credited.

[rodneycubed]

BOOOO I missed my 1 million milestone :/

[mountainman33]

BOOOO I missed my 1 million milestone :/
Congrats!

In other news, looks like jb347 is about to become #1 in daily production

[Moeyyy]

Sadly I am going to have to shut down F@H on my home machine for a while. I will probably get it running on one of my PCs at work sometime, but my home machine needs some rest.

I did grind it out and make it to the 3m mark though (a small personal goal I set).

Good job everyone and keep up the fold! Look forward to returning.

[codeChesire]

Hi there. I'm Chesire :)

Hope to be a fulfilling participant for our F@H team.

[grizli]

Hi there. I'm Chesire :)

Hope to be a fulfilling participant for our F@H team.
Good to see you join SD team! Welcome.

[codeChesire]

I wonder how much my PPD will jump when my new Rig is together and running...

i7-2600k @ 4.8 GHz and OC'd 560 Ti 448 >:D

[noaht]

Holy Crap jb347!! 750k - 800k a week! What's your setup?

[jb347]

Holy Crap jb347!! 750k - 800k a week! What's your setup?

24/7 folders:
5 boxes w/ dual xeon E5410 (8 cores @ 2.33ghz) mostly linux
1 E8400 linux
1 dual-xeon E5506 box (@ 2.13ghz), linux, 6 cores actively folding
1 i7-870 (2.93ghz) box windows xp

a few of the windows boxes have old, slow nvidia cards running the gpu client, not sure if there is much of any benefit there

Part time folders:
a couple Q9650 (3.0ghz) windows xp boxes
i5-2500k @ 4.0ghz windows 7, my home box

[noaht]

Geez man, that's awesome. Way to go giving team SD a shot in the arm!

[mountainman33]

I'm lovin the 11040/11041 projects that have been coming through lately. They give a 60-80% boost to my PPD.

noaht: you're in Tulsa eh? I live in Bixby

[Raven1245]

So I just did an upgrade, and was wondering if anyone had tried this before. I've done some google searches but it's pretty scattered info. My new video card is an AMD HD 6850. My old card is a Nvidia 9600gso. Is it possible to have both installed, run games and such on the 6850 without any issues, but then use both for Folding when the computer is idle? Looking around it seems ATI cards still suck for folding, so the GSO might give a little boost.

[Raven1245]

Followup: I threw in the 9600 GSO. Installed Nvidia drivers. Windows recognized both, benchmarks on 6850 was still the same. I open up the v7 F@H client, set up the two GPUs. The Nvidia runs fine, but the ATI isn't running at all. I messed around with some of the advanced settings with CUDA and Opencl flags, but never get it to run at the same time. I during it I got some display errors so I just pulled the Nvidia. Oh well.

[noaht]

I haven't tried running mismatched cards before, or ATI, so sadly I have no help for you raven! @mountainman: right on, you're one of the few okies I've seen on here, so I guess that means there are more deals left for us!
@Grizli: You just passed me for second place! Good job!

[grizli]

I haven't tried running mismatched cards before, or ATI, so sadly I have no help for you raven! @mountainman: right on, you're one of the few okies I've seen on here, so I guess that means there are more deals left for us!
@Grizli: You just passed me for second place! Good job!
Thanks noaht!

Speaking of projects... I haven't seen bigadv projects in forever... did they get away with them?

[Raven1245]

So, another issue. Using the new v7 client. When I run SMP it runs fine (TPF about 2 min 20 sec on this current project) by itself, GPU runs fine by itself. When I run them at the same time, the GPU runs at normal speed and SMP basically stops. Still running but it got about 2% in an hour. I tried changing the environmental variables (BROOK_YIELD, FLUSH_INTERVAL, etc), with no avail. I've been looking around for any other solutions but haven't found anything. Anyone else have a problem like this and find a solution?

CPU: Phenom II 960t x6 3.3ghz
GPU: HD 6850
Windows 7

[mountainman33]

Raven: its usually because the GPU client needs one cpu core for itself. Do you have SMP set to run on all six cores? I don't run a CPU/GPU setup so I dont know if you can run smp -5 and leave one core for the gpu or if you have to do it in multiples of 2.

[Raven1245]

Raven: its usually because the GPU client needs one cpu core for itself. Do you have SMP set to run on all six cores? I don't run a CPU/GPU setup so I dont know if you can run smp -5 and leave one core for the gpu or if you have to do it in multiples of 2.

I'll have to try that out when I get home. From what I remember seeing I think it has to be multiples of 2. If it runs better bumping it down to 4 cores I'll have to see how much that drops the "PPD" (since I've heard the v7 PPD in the client isn't the most accurate). Kind of sad how slow the ATI cards are these days. My SMP client can put out around 9-11k/day and the HD 6850 can only put out around 6k. My 4 year old NVIDIA card was putting out 4.5k!

[Raven1245]

Raven: its usually because the GPU client needs one cpu core for itself. Do you have SMP set to run on all six cores? I don't run a CPU/GPU setup so I dont know if you can run smp -5 and leave one core for the gpu or if you have to do it in multiples of 2.

So, even though it says multiples of 2, it can go for 5 cores (It doesnt leave a core open. It just runs at around 80%). Fired up the GPU slot and the cpu kept going! Dropped it by about 2.5k PPD on the WU I was testing it on, but the GPU 6k makes up for it.

[tanner2]

:woot::woot::woot: Congrats grizli for getting to the # 1 rank on the team

[grizli]

:woot::woot::woot: Congrats grizli for getting to the # 1 rank on the team
Thanks! Though I had to shut off half of the equipment for summer... and no more bigadv come in on 16 core boxes, so I shut one of them off as well.

[WanNelson]

this article give me a good suggestion, thank you so much!

[tanner2]

Gotta go, I will swing back sometime.

[robintrade]

So I finally figured out my problem. The over clock on my PC was causing the instability with f@h software. I was running my Phenom x6 3.4Ghz chip at 3.81Ghz and it was crashing the folding software. Have been running it at 3.71Ghz for a week now and managed to produce 75k in points for the last week.
Now if I can just get a 2nd machine online, I can get back to 100k a week. See you at the top!

Oh, and I did just pass the 2M mark today.

[grizli]

So I finally figured out my problem. The over clock on my PC was causing the instability with f@h software. I was running my Phenom x6 3.4Ghz chip at 3.81Ghz and it was crashing the folding software. Have been running it at 3.71Ghz for a week now and managed to produce 75k in points for the last week.
Now if I can just get a 2nd machine online, I can get back to 100k a week. See you at the top!

Oh, and I did just pass the 2M mark today.
Congrats on 2 Million!

[noaht]

Congrats Robin!

I just spun up a new server with dual opteron 6174's. Interested to see what kind of ppd they'll produce, and see how long I can keep it out of production so I can play with it!

[tanner2]

Congrats Robin!

I just spun up a new server with dual opteron 6174's. Interested to see what kind of ppd they'll produce, and see how long I can keep it out of production so I can play with it!

Here are some samples of ppd
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aspl6-RkaxtFdHdTdUdmUjhWalpXWVZ2S2xvejBDcHc#gid=0

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aqrim3QJXbLsdEt5YnptTjJabzNYOXRnUVRzQ3pZVlE&authkey=CMWAuLgM&hl=en&authkey=CMWAuLgM#gid=0

bonus calc. to play with to see how your ppd could change with different tpf's and different wu's

http://www.linuxforge.net/bonuscalc2.php

[noaht]

Thanks, those calcs were right on for what I'm getting. Kind of shocked at how low the ppd is, all things considered. I'm used to running a bunch of gpus and getting more ppd than this. It's an interesting test, but I can't keep it up.

[robintrade]

Well, after finally getting my main rig back up and running, it sparked my interest in folding again. I found a bunch of spare parts and put together an x3 rig. Based on early estimates, looks like it will produce
4k - 5k PPD. Not a ton of points, but that should be enough to get my weekly total around
110K - 120K a week between the 2 machines. It's gonna be a warm summer.