Straight Talk Refurb E71- 50 + Free overnight ship till 12/16

[searchdeal]

If you want a straight tallk E71 for doing the iphone trick then you can get now a refurb one for 50 + Tax with free overnight shipping till 12/16.

If you don't see them in stock for your region then just select some other zip to add the phone to cart and change the zip while check out.

http://www.shopstraighttalk.com/bpdirect/straighttalk/Start.do?action=view&zip=92704&locale=en&siteType=&market=GSM5ATSPRCO&gotoPhonelist=true

Please note that this phone will work only with 45 USD plan (Unlimited everything).

You can also use cashback sites to get around 15% off.

[wikipost]

For those of you wanting to use the SIM from this in an iPhone or Android, look here for instructions:
http://wiki.howardforums.com/index.php/Straight_Talk_Android <-- Android
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1691930-HowTo-StraightTalk-and-iPhone!-Everything-you-need-to-know-to-make-it-work! <-- iPhone (ALL AT&T iPhones, NO UNLOCK NEEDED)

Even if your using the iPhone, I suggest you read the Android link as I have put tips and important info in there that applies to everyone (namely "Unlimited" Data and Calling CS)
WARNING: DATA IS NOT TRULY UNLIMITED!! 2GB a month is roughly safe to use.

This runs on the AT&T Network and gets AT&T Postpaid coverage (voice+text, data may not be avail while roaming). You can port your existing number to it.

TO ALL THOSE WHO WANT TO PORT:
Activate the phone along with the # port request. If you port it after activating, the sim they sent you will be invalid and they will ship you another one (3-7 busines days) <-- possibly invalid, not always

FUN FACT: Works in USVI without issue and full service! (PM JeremyM if you have any questions)
I was in St Thomas, VI last week and brought my E71 and unlocked Dell Streak. Both worked with full bars and full 3g data coverage.

[rollOver]

Tried this a few months ago, at the price then it wasn't worth the data speed cut. At this price it is worth trying again, thanks and repped!

[Totalfixation]

there is a speed cap? I'm getting 3megabits a second.

[mclldavidson]

I use it and the service works great. Currently I am using a Galaxy S and have used multiple iphones and Androids, it suck though that Blackberry data doesnt work

[ursdbz]

Tried this a few months ago, at the price then it wasn't worth the data speed cut. At this price it is worth trying again, thanks and repped!
can elaborate of the data cut issue? I am trying to decide wether if I should go with tmo with 200mb 3G and unlimited edge (additional line) on my iPhone 4 or the straight talk. on tmobile I can get 500min and data for $10. while on straight talk I must pay 45.

[briancl]

is straight talk reliable for use with iphone?

[Shade00]

is straight talk reliable for use with iphone?

Yes.

However, it appears that you have to purchase a $45 card with it, unless I'm mistaken.

[SilentJudge]

For those of you wanting to use the SIM from this in an iPhone or Android, look here:
http://wiki.howardforums.com/index.php/Straight_Talk_Android <-- Android
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1691930-HowTo-StraightTalk-and-iPhone!-Everything-you-need-to-know-to-make-it-work! <-- iPhone (ALL AT&T iPhones, NO UNLOCK NEEDED)

[foofdawg]

Yes.

However, it appears that you have to purchase a $45 card with it, unless I'm mistaken.
Ummm. Buying the $45 unlimited plan is basically the whole point of this deal.

You buy the Refurb E71 for $50, (and $45 for your first month of service) and then switch the sim card out of this phone and put it in your Iphone. Now you can cancel your current Iphone plan (AT&T etc) and have an unlimited talk/text/data plan on an Iphone for $45 per month, without a contract through straighttalk (and you still get AT&T network, just not AT&T customer service!)

Did I miss the point of your comment or did you miss the point of this deal?!

[roller9]

in for 4 for iphone setups...you FKN rock OP wanna rep you a gazillion times!!!!setting my up with IP4 for his BDAY this is perfect timing!!

[Shade00]

Ummm. Buying the $45 unlimited plan is basically the whole point of this deal.

You buy the Refurb E71 for $50, (and $45 for your first month of service) and then switch the sim card out of this phone and put it in your Iphone. Now you can cancel your current Iphone plan (AT&T etc) and have an unlimited talk/text/data plan on an Iphone for $45 per month, without a contract through straighttalk (and you still get AT&T network, just not AT&T customer service!)

Did I miss the point of your comment or did you miss the point of this deal?!

Sorry, I guess I was unclear. I meant that you had to buy the first month's service immediately with the phone for a total of $94.99. I was going to buy just the phone and wait to activate it until my current contract ran out, but didn't want to buy the card immediately, if that makes any sense.

[SilentJudge]

Sorry, I guess I was unclear. I meant that you had to buy the first month's service immediately with the phone for a total of $94.99. I was going to buy just the phone and wait to activate it until my current contract ran out, but didn't want to buy the card immediately, if that makes any sense.

Understandable. The card that comes with it for 30 days of service is valid for 90 days, possibly longer.

Edit: I mean to say it expires in 90 days if unused

[roller9]

Sorry, I guess I was unclear. I meant that you had to buy the first month's service immediately with the phone for a total of $94.99. I was going to buy just the phone and wait to activate it until my current contract ran out, but didn't want to buy the card immediately, if that makes any sense.
You don't have to activte immediately they just make you purchase plan right away, I sit on these all the time until a customer need an iphone setup, sim DOES NOT come activted!! BUY NOW THINK LATER...........FREE OVERNIGHT SHIPPING!! BANG!!!

[briancl]

You don't have to activte immediately they just make you purchase plan right away, I sit on these all the time until a customer need an iphone setup, sim DOES NOT come activted!! BUY NOW THINK LATER...........FREE OVERNIGHT SHIPPING!! BANG!!!

is it possible to use my current t-mobile number with straight talk?

[roller9]

is it possible to use my current t-mobile number with straight talk?
yes you can port your number into straight talk, takes a few hours to port over

can elaborate of the data cut issue? I am trying to decide wether if I should go with tmo with 200mb 3G and unlimited edge (additional line) on my iPhone 4 or the straight talk. on tmobile I can get 500min and data for $10. while on straight talk I must pay 45.
edge on an iphone should be free!!:woot::woot:

[briancl]

yes you can port your number into straight talk, takes a few hours to port over


edge on an iphone should be free!!:woot::woot:

thanks for the help. would you recommend straight talk if i want hassle free service, meaning once i set it up i won't ever have to tweak settings or anything?

[miky702]

I wanna jump on this but still a bit confused. So is there data cutoff with straight talk or not? Will there be data throttling for heavy data users?

[roller9]

thanks for the help. would you recommend straight talk if i want hassle free service, meaning once i set it up i won't ever have to tweak settings or anything?
I setup on Iphones, couldn't give you any advice on any other phone, runs flawless on every version Iphone, fully functional except for VVM but youmail is better anyway IMO, no unlock needed but must be jailbroken to get native mms, if you cant jailbreak the phone at the moment there's always mms apps in app store for now, true 3G data(easily 2Mbps+), not throttled like H20. I use about 3gb a month including tethering with native hot spot setting and tethering apps from Cydia and have never had a problem, just don't abuse it I guess.
Now the catch to this is YOU CANNOT sell or give the E71 away because if someone sticks another sim other than the original sim that the phone was activated with in the E71 phone, YOUR $45 plan is DEAD!! but you can swap the sim between the E71 and any other phone.

[Texfinn]

Thanks OP! In for one. TU and repped.

Reps also to Silent Judge and roller9 for the info. Not sure if I'll use this right away, but since it is not activated, why the heck not? :nod:

[jimx200]

Why is this better than going with H20 wireless? With iPhone and H20, there is no mod necessary and everything works at $50 unlimited everything. Enlighten us please.

[Gregorykay]

Just a heads up. I purchased during Black Friday a $40 phone and $30/month unlimited promo for a year directly from Straight Talk and was the biggest mistake of my life. I am currently in dispute to get my $70 bucks back. I had wasted 4 days without any phone service while porting my number over. Frequent calls with tech support led to the theory that the new phone they sent me was defective. They suggested that I go to Walmart and exchange for the same phone. I did that, drove immediately to Walmart only to find that they didn't carry the same model phone.

Went home, called tech support, and was told their systems were down and to call back in 2 hours. I ended up going back to Simple Mobile but had to buy a new sim card and first month activation whereas before I still had 3 weeks of use before switching to Straight Talk.

To everyone here: Be very careful with Straight Talk. If you are satisfied with your current service then STAY WITH THEM! Straight Talk sucks!

[roller9]

Why is this better than going with H20 wireless? With iPhone and H20, there is no mod necessary and everything works at $50 unlimited everything. Enlighten us please.
H20 throttled data alone is a deal breaker and there IS small apn mod to get data & mms going for both!! oh almost forgot, you cannot use data(surf the web etc..) during a call on H20, @ $50 the E71 is a nice little backup handset, done.

Just a heads up. I purchased during Black Friday a $40 phone and $30/month unlimited promo for a year directly from Straight Talk and was the biggest mistake of my life. I am currently in dispute to get my $70 bucks back. I had wasted 4 days without any phone service while porting my number over. Frequent calls with tech support led to the theory that the new phone they sent me was defective. They suggested that I go to Walmart and exchange for the same phone. I did that, drove immediately to Walmart only to find that they didn't carry the same model phone.

Went home, called tech support, and was told their systems were down and to call back in 2 hours. I ended up going back to Simple Mobile but had to buy a new sim card and first month activation whereas before I still had 3 weeks of use before switching to Straight Talk.

To everyone here: Be very careful with Straight Talk. If you are satisfied with your current service then STAY WITH THEM! Straight Talk sucks!
That $30 deal is NOT the same as this SIR, this is the setup that REQUIRES $45 a month that runs on AT&T network, do your research! I've been using ST on IP4 forever without a problem...period!!
ps..I just set 1 up last night online, no rep needed took about 30 minutes.

[LeviathanUltima]

OOu of stockt

[nb1001]

what happened to the $35 unlimited deal?

[roller9]

what happened to the $35 unlimited deal?
That's the junk deal everyone was having problems with during BF, that was edge data I think.

OOu of stockt
try changing your region where it asks fir zip

[mr_big_tongue]

Their customer service is DEPLORABLE! It is like carrying on a conversation with a kitten fascinated with a ball of yarn.

Their cell service isn't great if you aren't used to AT&T, but it gets the job done. Connecting on calls seems to take forever in comparison with Verizon. I have never had as many dropped calls as I have since switching to Straight Talk and their use of AT&T towers.

But...for $45 a month for "unlimited" everything, I have learned to hack it. Although, by "unlimited," I secretly mean "limited."

[roller9]

Their customer service is DEPLORABLE! It is like carrying on a conversation with a kitten fascinated with a ball of yarn.

Their cell service isn't great if you aren't used to AT&T, but it gets the job done. Connecting on calls seems to take forever in comparison with Verizon. I have never had as many dropped calls as I have since switching to Straight Talk and their use of AT&T towers.

But...for $45 a month for "unlimited" everything, I have learned to hack it. Although, by "unlimited," I secretly mean "limited."
you actually find yourself having to talk to CSR, what for, I NEVER need them so I guess I wouldn't know:bounce::bounce:

[mr_big_tongue]

you actually find yourself having to talk to CSR, what for, I NEVER need them so I guess I wouldn't know:bounce::bounce:

Took them some three weeks to figure out how to get my phone working...then another week to get the number ported.

Amazingly enough, after reaching the point where I had two days left before I had to return the phone before the 30-day money back was up, I told them they would have it up and running by the next day or it was coming back to them. Within an hour, they had it done!!! I guess they had to pull someone off of their WoW game in order to do their damn job!

[kits]

I have been using StraighTalk now for over 6-months or more. Ported my number from AT&T, never had to talk to their customer service, never experienced any data cut-off problems and I browse a lot and even stream my music from Amazon Cloud services time to time. Send crazy number of food pictures almost everyday to friends, facebook, Yelp, and Foursquare. I almost forget to use WiFi. Still no data cut-off. I Even tethered on my recent vacation on my Android Tablet. Last 6 months I used Xperia Arc and Nokia N9. My wife uses iPhone4 and no problems.

About 4-5 months back Amazon sold their 6-months pre-paid card for $199 and 3-months for $99 with this same $45 unlimited plan. Hope Amazon stocks them again.

Only problem I have is I am not able to receive international SMS.

[Gregorykay]

That $30 deal is NOT the same as this SIR, this is the setup that REQUIRES $45 a month that runs on AT&T network, do your research! I've been using ST on IP4 forever without a problem...period!!
ps..I just set 1 up last night online, no rep needed took about 30 minutes.


True this is different than the promo I tried out, I just included it with my story to share my awful experience with Straight Talk.

[slammedisuzu]

I was a Straight Talk customer for about 6 months. The text/talk was great, but data sucked (my phone at the time was not a smart phone though).

At that time, I was told they ran on the Verizon network (I am in Southern Iowa, if that makes any difference). I see a lot of people on here claiming these run off of the ATT network......is it just this phone, or has Straight Talk switched from Verizon to ATT???

[Loy]

It depends on the phone you buy. A CDMA phone is verizon's network while GSM is ATT.

[roller9]

People please stop comparing this deal to the BF $30 deal, 2 totally different networks...apples & oranges

[dreamliner77]

I have been on Straight Talk since 2/2010 and have had only one problem. When I first got the e71, it wouldn't activate. Hit them up on Facebook for support and was up and running in under 30 min. Now I have the sim in an AT&T Samsung Captivate. With a custom ROM you even get HSDPA+.

[bargain_hunter]

Pardon my ignorance, but I still don't get it. With this deal, you pay $45/month for unlimited data. ATT, you pay $45 for 4 GB of data. Do you guys use more than 4GB/month? That's a lot of data, isn't it?

Also I understand the no-contract business. But I don't change plans...ever. I've been with ATT forever now. Does this deal make sense for me?

Please help me clarify....

[bapster]

I bought this E71 for myself a few months back and a Samsung CDMA phone for my wife. I had an initial problem porting my number but after that hassle I loved it. My wife had a much different experience.GSM is the way to go if you don't mind the extra radiation.

[RikJamez]

Is there any kind of ' workaround ' like this for Verizon/ CDMA with a decent phone?
My son has a plan on Verizon and no phone...

[Unhooked]

Showing $94 when I add it to my cart

[RedStripeE90]

Now the catch to this is YOU CANNOT sell or give the E71 away because if someone sticks another sim other than the original sim that the phone was activated with in the E71 phone, YOUR $45 plan is DEAD!! but you can swap the sim between the E71 and any other phone.

Wow, thanks for the heads up! I was going to ask if the E71 was unlocked. Is this true even if the E71 is used outside of the US?


I am trying to decide wether if I should go with tmo with 200mb 3G and unlimited edge (additional line) on my iPhone 4 or the straight talk. on tmobile I can get 500min and data for $10. while on straight talk I must pay 45.

What is the monthly cost of the Tmobile plan you mentioned?

[searchdeal]

Pardon my ignorance, but I still don't get it. With this deal, you pay $45/month for unlimited data. ATT, you pay $45 for 4 GB of data. Do you guys use more than 4GB/month? That's a lot of data, isn't it?

Also I understand the no-contract business. But I don't change plans...ever. I've been with ATT forever now. Does this deal make sense for me?

Please help me clarify....

Actually that 45 you pay is only for data. For getting unlimited talk & text and 4GB data you will have to pay 115 in at&t.

[Texfinn]

Showing $94 when I add it to my cart

$49 for the phone and $45 for the plan.

[new33]

Is there any kind of ' workaround ' like this for Verizon/ CDMA with a decent phone?
My son has a plan on Verizon and no phone...
yes have your smartphone flashed to str8 talk , will cost you $50 to $80

[GIRay]

Does it work with Sprint iPhone 4S?

[sangleweb]

You don't have to activte immediately they just make you purchase plan right away, I sit on these all the time until a customer need an iphone setup, sim DOES NOT come activted!! BUY NOW THINK LATER...........FREE OVERNIGHT SHIPPING!! BANG!!!

So I can buy it and activate 3 months laters? I also heard some time the sims that came is locked,is it true?

[Texfinn]

Does it work with Sprint iPhone 4S?

Nope.

[cndealking]

Not able to check out. None of my CCs worked.

[AftrBrnr]

Just checked out with no problem - thanks, reps and thumbs!

I've been using this with my wifes iPhone 3GS for about a year (bought the E71 for $200 at WMart)... we've been saving just under $50 / mo since then so the cost was repaid VERY quickly :)

For that matter, if you can get past the slightly funky interface, the E71 is a surprisingly well-featured phone with nearly every bell and whistle imaginable.

Things to consider:

I think I remember reading there are some serial numbers that the "iPhone SIM switcharoo" will not work with.

iPhone will need to be unlocked.

You will lose visual voicemail (not a dealbreaker for me @ $50 / mo savings).

[dealeacher]

I think I remember reading there are some serial numbers that the "iPhone SIM switcharoo" will not work with.

iPhone will need to be unlocked.

You will lose visual voicemail (not a dealbreaker for me @ $50 / mo savings).


You're right. Got this from Hofo:

Before you activate, make sure the sim card from either the E71 or 6790 says TF64PSIMC4 on it, if its missing the P in the part number, it will not work!

[sierrahiker]

I just ordered this phone last Thursday for $99.99 (also refurbished) and thought I was getting a good deal. I wonder if there is any chance for a price adjustment. I actually really like the phone. If I decided to put the sim card in a different smart phone (iPhone or Android) what would be a good, affordable way to get one? Buy a used AT&T phone or get an unlocked one? Used iPhones 4 are still quite expensive.

[pervin_1]

can it br unlocked for tmobile? i really want to buy one,but if it works with tmobile

[roller9]

Just checked out with no problem - thanks, reps and thumbs!

I've been using this with my wifes iPhone 3GS for about a year (bought the E71 for $200 at WMart)... we've been saving just under $50 / mo since then so the cost was repaid VERY quickly :)

For that matter, if you can get past the slightly funky interface, the E71 is a surprisingly well-featured phone with nearly every bell and whistle imaginable.

Things to consider:

I think I remember reading there are some serial numbers that the "iPhone SIM switcharoo" will not work with.

iPhone will need to be unlocked.

You will lose visual voicemail (not a dealbreaker for me @ $50 / mo savings).
AT&T iPhone DOES NOT have to be unlocked to use ST sim, you need to jailbreak to get native mms or if jailbreak is not yet available for your iPhone you can use a mms app from the app store but incoming and outgoing mms will be from the app assigned #.

[ursdbz]

What is the monthly cost of the Tmobile plan you mentioned?


It is called the value plan. My family had been tapping into my account for sometime. Now we are trying consolidate lines. I can add to my brother's acc and pay the addition charges. 5$ for 500 min. And 5$ for unlimited edge after 200mb 4G speed at iPhone's edge speed LOL. Text is included in family lines. Now half my family on tmo and other on sprint. So I went and bought me this.

[roller9]

I just ordered this phone last Thursday for $99.99 (also refurbished) and thought I was getting a good deal. I wonder if there is any chance for a price adjustment. I actually really like the phone. If I decided to put the sim card in a different smart phone (iPhone or Android) what would be a good, affordable way to get one? Buy a used AT&T phone or get an unlocked one? Used iPhones 4 are still quite expensive.
Check your local craigslist or watch the SD threads for the cowboom deals, Att / gsm iPhone does NOT have to be unlocked.

[kebuchan]

Just ordered one.. Thanks!

[kebuchan]

I know the E71 is a smart phone but does anyone know if I can drop an AT&T Sim into it and use it as a dumb phone with no-data or will AT&T sense the phone and start charging me for a data plan?

[AftrBrnr]

Check your local craigslist or watch the SD threads for the cowboom deals, Att / gsm iPhone does NOT have to be unlocked.

Yes it does. It's been a year or so since I set it up, but I'm fairly certain if you want MMS to work properly (and we definitely did) you will need to unlock the phone to add the appropriate settings.

This link may be helpful:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1691930-HowTo-StraightTalk-and-iPhone!-Everything-you-need-to-know-to-make-it-work!

Moreover, a used craigslist phone may not be of any value if the SIM can't be transferred. Not sure if they can be (???)

[ursdbz]

You're right. Got this from Hofo:

Before you activate, make sure the sim card from either the E71 or 6790 says TF64PSIMC4 on it, if its missing the P in the part number, it will not work!

This number 1 rule still apply?
What do we do if we got a sim without 'P' in it?
Can we exchange it?
If exchange is possible, what happen if we receive another non 'P' sim?
Last be not least. Is there any record of one who received a sim without 'P' with the purchase of these E71 or 6790?

[TheBetterHalf]

I have the $50 unlimited with tmobile on my 3gs. Seems like a waste because I can't get the 4g speed. Is it worth it to get this plan and phone?

[AftrBrnr]

AT&T iPhone DOES NOT have to be unlocked to use ST sim, you need to jailbreak to get native mms or if jailbreak is not yet available for your iPhone you can use a mms app from the app store but incoming and outgoing mms will be from the app assigned #.


Yup - it's been a year or so, so thanks for the reminder. Working MMS was important to the wife so unlocking was essential.

[roller9]

I know the E71 is a smart phone but does anyone know if I can drop an AT&T Sim into it and use it as a dumb phone with no-data or will AT&T sense the phone and start charging me for a data plan?
AT&T is notorious for knowing you're using a smartphone, but that will kill the $45 unlimited sim, if you dont mind give it a shot

[sky03]

Yup - it's been a year or so, so thanks for the reminder. Working MMS was important to the wife so unlocking was essential.

unlocking and jailbreaking is different... u dunno what ur talkin about

[ursdbz]

Yup - it's been a year or so, so thanks for the reminder. Working MMS was important to the wife so unlocking was essential.

Don't you mean jailbreak? If it required unlock then u can't make or receive call and of course no plain text SMS.

[AftrBrnr]

You're right. Got this from Hofo:

Before you activate, make sure the sim card from either the E71 or 6790 says TF64PSIMC4 on it, if its missing the P in the part number, it will not work!

I remembered the general gist but not the specifics. Thanks & reps for the details!

[cndealking]

Still cannot checkout. keeps getting this:

The following Error(s) occurred:
Your order could not be completed due to authorization problems with your credit card. This could be caused by a declined card or an error in the information you've provided. If you feel your card is valid, please re-enter the required information.

This is weird.

[roller9]

Yup - it's been a year or so, so thanks for the reminder. Working MMS was important to the wife so unlocking was essential.
Jailbreak is to get mms, unlock is to use on unofficial carrier, 2 different things

[kebuchan]

AT&T is notorious for knowing you're using a smartphone, but that will kill the $45 unlimited sim, if you dont mind give it a shot

:confused: The ST sim is going into my AT&T Android. The sim i plan on putting into the E71 is that of an ATT voice plan. If they charge me for data, I drop the plan and move on. How will kill the $45 ST sim/plan?

[AftrBrnr]

unlocking and jailbreaking is different... u dunno what ur talkin about

Actually I do.

Jailbreaking allows you to install 3rd party applications, customize graphics, sounds, etc. Unlocking allows you to use the phone on networks other than AT&T or change carrier settings, for instance to use MMS ;).

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=unlocking+vs+jailbreaking

[AftrBrnr]

Jailbreak is to get mms, unlock is to use on unofficial carrier, 2 different things

You're confused, but I can see why...

The jailbreak is needed only initially to unlock the phone. Once it's unlocked (so MMS works the way it's supposed to) you can upgrade or Restore any time (which essentially re-locks the device) and keep the unlocked settings:

[CAUTION: Required MMS Unlock - not "jailbreak" - settings below ;)]

MMS
APN: att.mvno
Username:
Password:
MMSC: http://mmsc.cingular.com
MMS Proxy: proxy.mvno.tracfone.com:80
MMS Max Size: 1048576
MMS UA Prof URL:

[AftrBrnr]

Jailbreak is to get mms, unlock is to use on unofficial carrier, 2 different things

Right.

And here are the carrier settings that need changed for MMS:

MMS
APN: att.mvno
Username:
Password:
MMSC: http://mmsc.cingular.com
MMS Proxy: proxy.mvno.tracfone.com:80
MMS Max Size: 1048576
MMS UA Prof URL:

Sounds a lot like what you described as "unlocked" to me ;)

[roller9]

Actually I do.

Jailbreaking allows you to install 3rd party applications, customize graphics, sounds, etc. Unlocking allows you to use the phone on networks other than AT&T or change carrier settings, for instance to use MMS ;).

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=unlocking+vs+jailbreaking
W'ere just saying that you don't need to unlock to get mms when using an AT&T phone, which is what you said you said you unlocked for mms, not picking at you or taking sides just repeating what you said.

[AftrBrnr]

But you *do* need to unlock it to get MMS on an iPhone using a StraightTalk SIM. Really, you do.

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1691930-HowTo-StraightTalk-and-iPhone!-Everything-you-need-to-know-to-make-it-work!

Now, in order to actually make significant changes to the carrier settings on an iPhone you need to jailbreak it in order to unlock it.

This is an important distinction because the phone doesn't *have* to remain jailbroken for MMS to continue working. Upgrading to newer iOS's, for example, will re-lock the phone - but there's no need to re-jailbreak it because the *unlocked* settings survive the upgrade.

[roller9]

But you *do* need to unlock it to get MMS on an iPhone using a StraightTalk SIM. Really.

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1691930-HowTo-StraightTalk-and-iPhone!-Everything-you-need-to-know-to-make-it-work!

But in order to actually make significant changes to the carrier settings on an iPhone you need to jailbreak it in order to unlock it.

This is an important distinction because the phone doesn't *have* to remain jailbroken for MMS to continue working. Upgrading to newer iOS's, for example, re-lock the phone - but there's no need to re-jailbreak it because the *unlocked* settings survive the upgrade.
Now you're not making sense, jailbreak comes BEFORE UNLOCK, you DO NOT Need to unlock to get MMS you just need tether me from CYDIA, absolutely nothing to do with unlock!

[AftrBrnr]

Now you're not making sense, jailbreak comes BEFORE UNLOCK, you DO NOT Need to unlock to get MMS you just need tether me from CYDIA, absolutely nothing to do with unlock!


"you need to jailbreak it in order to unlock it" << - pretty much implies jailbreaking before unlocking, don't you think?

And clearly you've never actually done this.

Have a good night being wrong, troll-boy.

[roller9]

"you need to jailbreak it in order to unlock it" << - implies jailbreaking before unlocking.

And clearly you've never actually done this.

Have a good night being wrong, troll-boy.
Lmao how many drinks have you had, funny thing is the Howard forums link is saying exactly what I said and total opposite of what you said, I'm sure that anyone else who clicks the howard link will agree...what a wannabe lmao!!!Ps you say I've never done this lmao go to http://www.sinfuliphone.com/ my name is roller there too, look at my reps and feedback and tell me again I've never done this, Troll!

[AftrBrnr]

Lmao how many drinks have you had, funny thing is the Howard forums link is saying exactly what I said and total opposite of what you said, I'm sure that anyone else who clicks the howard link will agree...what a wannabe lmao!!!

That's funny, given I rarely drink at all.

Btw, did you happen to notice what TetheMe does? Or did you just skim the article so it seemed like you knew something?

ProTip: It's used to change carriers settings (frequently called unlocking by most people who've actually done this :))

As I said before, there is a noteworthy difference - jailbreaking does not survive OS upgrades. Unlocking usually does.

[AftrBrnr]

unlocking and jailbreaking is different... u dunno what ur talkin about

Thank you so much for that stellar example of grammatical abuse. And you is right they is different :)

[roller9]

Edit..

[roller9]

That's funny, given I rarely drink at all.

Btw, did you happen to notice what TetheMe does? Or did you just skim the article so it seemed like you knew something?

ProTip: It's used to change carriers settings (frequently called unlocking by most people who've actually done this :))

As I said before, there is a noteworthy difference - jailbreaking does not survive OS upgrades. Unlocking usually does.
Your ignorance to this whole thing shows up more and more each time you post about it lmao, changing carrier settings is NOT unlocking, altering BASEBAND/MODEM FIRMWARE is what unlocks the iPhone, now I posted a link to where you could go and see my knowledge of this, man quit while you're ahead , you look outright silly right now, seriously!
http://www.sinfuliphone.com/ ps the name there is roller as well..ask about me lmao

[ak11228]

Thank you so much for that stellar example of grammatical abuse. And you is right they is different :)

Usually I dont like joining in a fight but reading your post is pissing me off.

I am using iphone 4 jailbreak on straight talk with mms, data all working.

Its only jailbreak and still LOCK to ATT.

thats it good nite.


P.S. i'm also very piss cuz I got the e71 when it was like 150 USED on ebay!!!

[AftrBrnr]

Your ignorance to this whole thing shows up more and more each time you post about it lmao, changing carrier settings is NOT unlocking, altering BASEBAND/MODEM FIRMWARE is what unlocks the iPhone, now I posted a link to where you could go and see my knowledge of this, man quit while you're ahead , you look outright silly right now, seriously!
http://www.sinfuliphone.com/ ps the name there is roller as well..ask about me lmao


Your ignorance to this whole thing shows up more and more each time you post about it lmao, changing carrier settings is NOT unlocking, altering BASEBAND/MODEM FIRMWARE is what unlocks the iPhone, now I posted a link to where you could go and see my knowledge of this, man quit while you're ahead , you look outright silly right now, seriously!
http://www.sinfuliphone.com/ ps the name there is roller as well..ask about me lmao

"unlocked"

You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.

[jaysen]

This number 1 rule still apply?
What do we do if we got a sim without 'P' in it?
Can we exchange it?
If exchange is possible, what happen if we receive another non 'P' sim?
Last be not least. Is there any record of one who received a sim without 'P' with the purchase of these E71 or 6790?

Would like to know this as well... How common is it to receive one of these "P" Sim Cards ? Now, I'm worried... Ughh.

[AftrBrnr]

Usually I dont like joining in a fight but reading your post is pissing me off.

I am using iphone 4 jailbreak on straight talk with mms, data all working.

Its only jailbreak and still LOCK to ATT.

thats it good nite.

I know it seems like I'm splitting hairs, but Unlocking gives the ability to change carrier settings.

Seems to me that whether you change some settings (like to get MMS) or all (to switch carriers) the phone has to be just as unlocked.

[RedStripeE90]

"unlocked"

You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.

AftrBrner, thanks for all your help, but you are actually using the term "unlock" incorrectly.

Changing carrier settings to get native MMS working on the iPhone, very helpful by the way, only involves jailbreaking so one can get access to the /System/Library/Carrier Bundles and making the necessary changes (regardless of what method used to get them). However, that does not "unlock" the phone to be used on other carriers.

[AftrBrnr]

Would like to know this as well... How common is it to receive one of these "P" Sim Cards ? Now, I'm worried... Ughh.

I was wondering the same thing... Hopefully these aren't ones that have been returned because the SIM can't be used in other phones. But it's a $100 (total) bet for a lot more in savings!

Besides, if all else fails ebay / craigslist it if it isn't the right serial. I'm guessing, but I'd think you could get some / most of the $100 back.

[roller9]

I know it seems like I'm splitting hairs, but Unlocking gives the ability to change carrier settings.

Seems to me that whether you change some settings (like to get MMS) or all (to switch carriers) the phone has to be just as unlocked.
DUDE FFS!!! Jailbreaking and installing tetherme to change carrier settings IS NOT UNLOCKING!!!!! WOW

[AftrBrnr]

AftrBrner, thanks for all your help, but you are actually using the term "unlock" incorrectly.

Changing carrier settings to get native MMS working on the iPhone, very helpful by the way, only involves jailbreaking so one can get access to the /System/Library/Carrier Bundles and making the necessary changes (regardless of what method used to get them). However, that does not "unlock" the phone to be used on other carriers.

That doesn't match what I've always understood unlocking to mean (altering the phone so carrier changes can be made) but I genuinely appreciate your explanation and will definitely look into it further so I'm sure my understanding is correct.

[RedStripeE90]

That doesn't match what I've always understood unlocking to mean (altering the phone so carrier changes can be made) but I genuinely appreciate your explanation and will definitely look into it further so I'm sure my understanding is correct.

Ok, thanks. I think we can close this specific topic, as all points have been posted.

[roller9]

Would like to know this as well... How common is it to receive one of these "P" Sim Cards ? Now, I'm worried... Ughh.
I've done several of these and have never gotten a non "P" sim, actually the non "p" sims don't work properly in the e71 or 6790, so if you get a non "P" which I doubt you will, Straight Talk will simply send you another sim because that was their mistake, the people that turned me on to this made me aware of it, I talk from experience and not outta my a$$ like MR UNLOCK here in the thread, just follow the sinful link I posted, everything you wanna know about an idevice..period !

[roller9]

AftrBrner, thanks for all your help, but you are actually using the term "unlock" incorrectly.

Changing carrier settings to get native MMS working on the iPhone, very helpful by the way, only involves jailbreaking so one can get access to the /System/Library/Carrier Bundles and making the necessary changes (regardless of what method used to get them). However, that does not "unlock" the phone to be used on other carriers.
Thank you thank you thank you!!

[alpinestars]

Wow, I just bought this phone two days ago at $99 and it's arriving tomorrow. -__-

Looks like I'll have to give them a call... *shudder*

[sky03]

Thank you so much for that stellar example of grammatical abuse. And you is right they is different :)

How funny from a person who didnt know the diff betweeen unlock and jailbreak

[Texfinn]

Wow... :eek:

[saj07]

Question: I am interested in $499 annual plan as you know when i add the e71 refurb to cart total comes to $94 i know $50 for the phone and $44 for 1st month is there anyway i can buy the phone and 1 year service together without paying for 1 month ??

THANKS

[realog91]

I have the $50 unlimited with tmobile on my 3gs. Seems like a waste because I can't get the 4g speed. Is it worth it to get this plan and phone?

Yes, because you don't even get 3G speeds on an iPhone if you use T-Mobile service with it...

[mpkb]

can elaborate of the data cut issue? I am trying to decide wether if I should go with tmo with 200mb 3G and unlimited edge (additional line) on my iPhone 4 or the straight talk. on tmobile I can get 500min and data for $10. while on straight talk I must pay 45.A little off topic, but Tmobile 500 min and data for $10? Elaborate, please ;)

[PotmeetKettle]

I have the $50 unlimited with tmobile on my 3gs. Seems like a waste because I can't get the 4g speed. Is it worth it to get this plan and phone?

Yep, this allows you to get receive 3G instead of being stuck on 2G edge with tmobile.

[PotmeetKettle]

Yes it does. It's been a year or so since I set it up, but I'm fairly certain if you want MMS to work properly (and we definitely did) you will need to unlock the phone to add the appropriate settings.


I think you are confused.

The only time you need to unlock the handset is so that you can use a SIM CARD that is not AT&T's*.

When it comes to AT&T resellers like ST or H20, all you need to do is jailbreak, to access the MMS settings.

I had a factory unlocked iphone 3G from overseas and still had to jailbreak to access the MMS settings. The phone accepted any sim card without an issue but to change MMS to a carrier not approved by apple (like Tmobile US), I had to jailbreak. End of story



* Generally only applicable to US versions of the iphone. Iphones sold overseas are typically unlocked from the factory.

[PotmeetKettle]

Nonetheless, this is an excellent deal/option for anyone who wants to use a smartphone on AT&T's network, while only paying $45 for unlimited calls, text and about 2GB of 3G speed data.

[Defying_Odds]

just pulled the trigger on this, has anyone received the phone yet? what exactly do they mean by reconditioned/recertified?

Also, I plan on using this with my atrix. Has anyone used it with lapdock on ST?

[ursdbz]

A little off topic, but Tmobile 500 min and data for $10? Elaborate, please ;)
I can add my line to my brother's account since he has the family plan.

[Defying_Odds]

Does anyone know how long it usually takes to process the order?

[PotmeetKettle]

Does anyone know how long it usually takes to process the order?

Ordered 2 last night and they shipped this morning, as in FedEx picked them up.

Free overnight shipping.

just pulled the trigger on this, has anyone received the phone yet? what exactly do they mean by reconditioned/recertified?

Also, I plan on using this with my atrix. Has anyone used it with lapdock on ST?

Recon/refurb means that they could possibly be returns that have been tested and repackaged by the manufacturer, typically in a as-new condition.

[huewang]

does ne1 know whether ST supports LTE if you have the samsung skyrocket or is this only for 3g data.

[Defying_Odds]

Just a heads up it looks like it takes about a day to ship, meaning you place the order one day, then they over night it. So it takes about three days. My order was "in-progress" from 12:30-6 until I got an email saying that my order was received and I have an estimated ship date of 12/9/11. It appears you also have to be there to sign.

[searchdeal]

I ordered yesterday night by around 12. Today morning i got the tracking stating it is picked up from the seller and estimated delivery date is Dec 9th. ST mentioned somewhere that the ordered placed after 3PM will be shipped next day.

[jayplus]

Haven't pulled the trigger yet.. My concern is purchasing the monthly service cards.

Where else, other than Walmart.com and Straighttalk.com can you get the monthly service cards? I think I will get charged tax in NY on the $45 plan... That makes it almost $50/mo which kind of sucks.

Anyone know if they actually charge state sales tax when purchasing via WM or ST or via auto-refill?

I haven't found any other reliable place to purchase cards (i.e. calling mart) to avoid the sales tax other than the sporadic ebay listing ?

[Defying_Odds]

I ordered yesterday night by around 12. Today morning i got the tracking stating it is picked up from the seller and estimated delivery date is Dec 9th. ST mentioned somewhere that the ordered placed after 3PM will be shipped next day.

Yes I saw that. I purchased it this afternoon at 12:30PM and it definitely did not ship today.

[roller9]

Haven't pulled the trigger yet.. My concern is purchasing the monthly service cards.

Where else, other than Walmart.com and Straighttalk.com can you get the monthly service cards? I think I will get charged tax in NY on the $45 plan... That makes it almost $50/mo which kind of sucks.

Anyone know if they actually charge state sales tax when purchasing via WM or ST or via auto-refill?

I haven't found any other reliable place to purchase cards (i.e. calling mart) to avoid the sales tax other than the sporadic ebay listing ?
I'm in SO Cal and pay online and my total is $45.95 each month.

[ak11228]

I'm in SO Cal and pay online and my total is $45.95 each month.

the price for the e71 is so low that it makes me sad getting it when it was 150 used on ebay.

[Defying_Odds]

Is the 90 day expiration on all cards? When does the start of the 90 days begin? Doesn't really make sense to me they sell them at walmart, does that mean walmart throws any cards that are 91 days old in the trash?

[SilentJudge]

Question: I am interested in $499 annual plan as you know when i add the e71 refurb to cart total comes to $94 i know $50 for the phone and $44 for 1st month is there anyway i can buy the phone and 1 year service together without paying for 1 month ??

THANKS

No. But once you activate the phone, you can buy the 1 year refill online from their web site and add it to your account (where it will be used automatically after your first 30 days)

does ne1 know whether ST supports LTE if you have the samsung skyrocket or is this only for 3g data.

No LTE. 2G/3G/HSPA only for data.

[SilentJudge]

I'm in SO Cal and pay online and my total is $45.95 each month.

You can buy the 3-month refills on StraightTalk.com for a discount, which should negate all taxes and then some.

[SilentJudge]

For those wondering about using AT&T locked iPhones on ST. You DO NOT need to unlock it, BUT you DO need to jailbreak it to send/receive MMS (picture msg).

[GIRay]

I put this SIM card into my Sprint iPhone 4S, and it shows Activation Required.
Now I have to keep the crappy E71 and my iPhone at the same time. :(

[Defying_Odds]

SilentJudge- If they do shut you down for data and you have months remaining on your account do they refund your money?

[SilentJudge]

SilentJudge- If they do shut you down for data and you have months remaining on your account do they refund your money?

No. But they don't close your account down immediately. They give you a call, ask you what your doing, tethering, etc. Just say you left youtube open and forgot to close it. They'll then scold you and turn your data back on. Then learn your lesson and keep your usage below 2GB a month and below 100MB a day. There are plenty of apps to do this.

More info and other users experiences here: http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1733397-45-Unlocked-SIM-Data-Limit

I put this SIM card into my Sprint iPhone 4S, and it shows Activation Required.
Now I have to keep the crappy E71 and my iPhone at the same time. :(

Is the Sprint iPhone 4S GSM unlocked? I thought you can't use US based carrier SIM cards in it?

[Defying_Odds]

No. But they don't close your account down immediately. They give you a call, ask you what your doing, tethering, etc. Just say you left youtube open and forgot to close it. They'll then scold you and turn your data back on. Then learn your lesson and keep your usage below 2GB a month and below 100MB a day. There are plenty of apps to do this.

More info and other users experiences here: http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1733397-45-Unlocked-SIM-Data-Limit



Is the Sprint iPhone 4S GSM unlocked? I thought you can't use US based carrier SIM cards in it?

Is the 2GB rule strictly enforced? I have read both ways on the forum....

[roller9]

I put this SIM card into my Sprint iPhone 4S, and it shows Activation Required.
Now I have to keep the crappy E71 and my iPhone at the same time. :(
This Is for AT&T network iphone

[SilentJudge]

Is the 2GB rule strictly enforced? I have read both ways on the forum....

No, but its "safe". There are indeed (few) people have reported using 5GB a month for as long as they've had the phone (4-8 months) without issue. However, I think they just slipped through the cracks.

I don't want to run the risk of getting shut down and I have 3G Watchdog (Android app) alert me if I hit 1.5GB. I think lots of mins, unlimited text, and and 2GB of data is well worth $45.
On AT&T contract, 450 mins, Unlimited text, and 2GB is $40+$20+$25 = $85. So considering how much you save, I think its worth the minor inconvenience of watching your data usage.

[Defying_Odds]

No, but its "safe". There are indeed (few) people have reported using 5GB a month for as long as they've had the phone (4-8 months) without issue. However, I think they just slipped through the cracks.

I don't want to run the risk of getting shut down and I have 3G Watchdog (Android app) alert me if I hit 1.5GB. I think lots of mins, unlimited text, and and 2GB of data is well worth $45.
On AT&T contract, 450 mins, Unlimited text, and 2GB is $40+$20+$25 = $85. So considering how much you save, I think its worth the minor inconvenience of watching your data usage.

yeah, I dont think I will get up past 2 anyway, just curious because I do use pandora a bit and was grandfathered into unlimited with at&t. I wish ST had a plan for $5-10 less with less minutes because I only use like 300 max a month.

[roller9]

Is the 2GB rule strictly enforced? I have read both ways on the forum....
I use about 3 gb a month with iPhone

[SilentJudge]

I use about 3 gb a month with iPhone

On Straight Talk? Number of months you've been with them?

[genax]

is this dead im seeing 94.99

[roller9]

On Straight Talk? Number of months you've been with them?
Yes on ST for about 9 months

[SilentJudge]

Yes on ST for about 9 months

Do you have an app that you use to keep track? Can you post a screenshot by any chance? Thanks

[Defying_Odds]

is this dead im seeing 94.99

$50 for phone + $45 for 1 month service

[roller9]

is this dead im seeing 94.99
That's because you have to buy the first $45 a month with phone

[SilentJudge]

is this dead im seeing 94.99

See replies above..

[spitcool]

**As a note**

I have done with my friend's wife's phone, and it works great. She is not a super heavy data user, but she does stream Spotify here and there and makes a good bit of calls. Never had an issue. Just do NOT screw up cutting your SIM card if you need to make it a microSIM because their customer service is horrible and it will take you weeks to get a new SIM if you mess up the cut.

[GIRay]

Is the Sprint iPhone 4S GSM unlocked? I thought you can't use US based carrier SIM cards in it?

Sprint staff unlocked it for me, but this sim card still doesn't work. :confused:

[SilentJudge]

Sprint staff unlocked it for me, but this sim card still doesn't work. :confused:

Does it work when in the original E71?

[GIRay]

Does it work when in the original E71?

yep, works like a charm.

[SilentJudge]

yep, works like a charm.

I really dont think Sprint unlocks your 4S for USA GSM carriers, I think its only unlocked for International carriers.

According to Sprint, the company will "allow existing customers in good standing to unlock the SIM for international use if needed in the future" if customers explicitly ask for the unlock.
http://www.tuaw.com/2011/11/11/sprint-iphone-4s-unlocking-policy-not-new-can-be-undone/

Have you plugged your iPhone into your computer and open up iTunes when it says activation required? Does it let you activate?

[GIRay]

I really dont think Sprint unlocks your 4S for USA GSM carriers, I think its only unlocked for International carriers.


http://www.tuaw.com/2011/11/11/sprint-iphone-4s-unlocking-policy-not-new-can-be-undone/

Have you plugged your iPhone into your computer and open up iTunes when it says activation required? Does it let you activate?

No, it says activation required and kept searching for a while and then No Network. It doesn't let me use the phone at all. They said my iPhone is unlocked but it's not true. Sprint sucks!

[SilentJudge]

No, it says activation required and kept searching for a while and then No Network. It doesn't let me use the phone at all. They said my iPhone is unlocked but it's not true. Sprint sucks!

Have you tried plugging the phone to the computer and running iTunes?

Its unlocked, but only if you go outside the US. So if you go to Canada, you can buy a SIM there and use it and not pay roaming on Sprint.

From their press release:
Sprint's policy is to have the iPhone 4S SIM locked to our network domestically and internationally. Beginning on November 11, the International SIM will be locked for devices provisioned on the Sprint network. Customers in good standing for at least 90 days can request to have their SIM unlocked for international use by calling Customer Care at 888-211-4727.

Customers can sign up for one of our international rate plans and use this phone in most countries all over the world. When traveling internationally, there is a setting that must be turned on within the device to connect to GSM. International voice and data charges are on a pay-as-you-go basis and vary based on the country where the customer is using their phone; a list of rates is available at www.sprint.com/international.

[Larry1954]

I have been using straight talk for 2 years. Service has been better than it ever was with sprint or at&t.

[GIRay]

Have you tried plugging the phone to the computer and running iTunes?

Its unlocked, but only if you go outside the US. So if you go to Canada, you can buy a SIM there and use it and not pay roaming on Sprint.

From their press release:

Thanks for the infos.
I did hook it up to my laptop, but it still showed Activation Required only. I couldn't run any apps including itunes. :(
Now I need to return the E71.

[ilovethissite]

Can any of you ST folks recommend a good android qwerty keyboard phone? I see the Samsung captivate glide, but I'm not ready to spend $400. Anything between the more entry level HTC status and that Samsung? Any decent gsm motorola's that have been known to work with this e71 sim? I'm dying to try out ST but I need android and a keyboard not an iphone...
Thanks!

[highboy90]

Walmart has also lowered the price on the Nokia E71 (http://www.walmart.com/ip/Straight-Talk-Nokia-E71-Prepaid-GSM-Cell-Phone/15266346) ($99.98) AND Nokia E-5 (http://www.walmart.com/ip/Straight-Talk-Nokia-E-5-GSM-Smartphone/17117841) ($169.88) if you prefer to go that route. This DOES NOT include prepaid card and appear to be new. Not refurb if that matters to you. I have seen the E-5 in stores but not the E71.

[Defying_Odds]

Does fedex not deliver on saturday? My phone shipped standard overnight today but it has an estimated delivery date of 12/12/11

[PotmeetKettle]

Can any of you ST folks recommend a good android qwerty keyboard phone? I see the Samsung captivate glide, but I'm not ready to spend $400. Anything between the more entry level HTC status and that Samsung? Any decent gsm motorola's that have been known to work with this e71 sim? I'm dying to try out ST but I need android and a keyboard not an iphone...
Thanks!

Best site for phone reviews is phonearea. Basically any AT&T phone will do.

http://www.phonearena.com/phones/carriers/AT&T

[PotmeetKettle]

What's amazing is that you can get 2 ST services for the price of 1 AT&T postpaid. And the AT&T service does not even included half the offerings.

Prepaying 6 months worth of service brings the cost down to $41.6 a month.

[sephiro499]

Can I use this phone on an att post paid account? I was thinking of replacing my aging blackberry curve with this phone. I was looking for something with an upgraded camera, mine is 2mp right now.

[PotmeetKettle]

Can I use this phone on an att post paid account? I was thinking of replacing my aging blackberry curve with this phone. I was looking for something with an upgraded camera, mine is 2mp right now.

I don't see why you couldn't use the handset on AT&T, considering it works the other way round.

You'd have to wait for someone to confirm this though.

[Texfinn]

Just received my E71 and it looks pretty much like new. Pretty good for a refurb.

Now I just need to make up my mind what to do with it. Haha... :lol: I use my company phone for everything but we have AT&T family plan for my wife and two kids. My wife is the only one with data plan but she has the grandfathered unlimited plan, so in that sense she doesn't really need this.

My older daughter is going to college next year, so this might be good for her, then.

BTW, I don't remember if it has been discussed in this thread already or not, but is the E71 locked with ST or this plan or can I just sell it on Craigslist/Ebay etc. as I really don't need it?

[niftydl]

BTW, I don't remember if it has been discussed in this thread already or not, but is the E71 locked with ST or this plan or can I just sell it on Craigslist/Ebay etc. as I really don't need it?

You can sell the phone, but unless the person who buys it already has a working ST sim they are going to have a hard time getting ST to send them a new one. Also, I believe the IMEI of the phone is tied to account, which means they will not be able to activate it again - although it might work with an already active sim . This is what I've read on HowardForums. The E71 is always good to keep around in case whichever phone you use with your sim breaks.

[searchdeal]

Just received my E71 and it looks pretty much like new. Pretty good for a refurb.

Now I just need to make up my mind what to do with it. Haha... :lol: I use my company phone for everything but we have AT&T family plan for my wife and two kids. My wife is the only one with data plan but she has the grandfathered unlimited plan, so in that sense she doesn't really need this.

My older daughter is going to college next year, so this might be good for her, then.

BTW, I don't remember if it has been discussed in this thread already or not, but is the E71 locked with ST or this plan or can I just sell it on Craigslist/Ebay etc. as I really don't need it?

No, you cant use ST phones in any other network (even AT&T) as it is nearly impossible to unlock it. (i have not heard anybody done that)

[SilentJudge]

Can I use this phone on an att post paid account? I was thinking of replacing my aging blackberry curve with this phone. I was looking for something with an upgraded camera, mine is 2mp right now.

No, its locked to Straight Talk.

You can sell the phone, but unless the person who buys it already has a working ST sim they are going to have a hard time getting ST to send them a new one. Also, I believe the IMEI of the phone is tied to account, which means they will not be able to activate it again - although it might work with an already active sim . This is what I've read on HowardForums. The E71 is always good to keep around in case whichever phone you use with your sim breaks.

No, whatever you do, DO NOT sell the phone for as long as you want to use service on the SIM. If the person buys it and gets a SIM from ST and activates the phone, your service will be deactivated.

[PotmeetKettle]

ST also includes free roaming....

[ttod]

No. But they don't close your account down immediately. They give you a call, ask you what your doing, tethering, etc. Just say you left youtube open and forgot to close it. They'll then scold you and turn your data back on. Then learn your lesson and keep your usage below 2GB a month and below 100MB a day. There are plenty of apps to do this.

More info and other users experiences here: http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1733397-45-Unlocked-SIM-Data-Limit

thanks for all the helpful info on this thread SilentJudge

i've repped you x 4

if possible , i think it would be noteworthy if someone could post on the Wiki: that Unlimited data is not really unlimited
and that it should be keep in the range of 2gb per month

[Texfinn]

OK. So I guess I'll hold on to the E71. At least until I figure out if I want to activate the SIM or not...

[PotmeetKettle]

Just received the E71 and the condition is near new.

[Defying_Odds]

Just received the E71 and the condition is near new.

It came with the correct sim as well?

[billion8]

just received mine. it seems like new, the interior parts too. and its the correct sim!

[c2meang]

Any body knows if their plan is tax included or not. If not, what do I expect to pay a month for the $45 plan?

[bargain_hunter]

Also just received the E71, brand new, short of a few fingerprints. Correct sim and all.

Just do it!

[PotmeetKettle]

It came with the correct sim as well?

Yep - TF64PSIMC4

[roller9]

Any body knows if their plan is tax included or not. If not, what do I expect to pay a month for the $45 plan?
In SO Cal when I pay for 1 month at a time it's 45.95 total, you have the option to pay a few months in advance for a cheaper rate.

[searchdeal]

Got mine too..Looks very new...I haven't used it yet.

[bargain_hunter]

Have anyone tried it on an iPad or ipad2?

[bargain_hunter]

Did you guys get a 4GB card in the phone? Or did I get lucky?

[traxxasmaniac]

Received mine as well. Minus finger prints, looks near new. Mine did include a 4gb Microsd card as well. Correct SIM card too!

[Anthony22]

DOA! Grrrr. Hour and half talking to reps.GRRR

[gicentral]

Any body knows if their plan is tax included or not. If not, what do I expect to pay a month for the $45 plan?


Plan does not include tax...tax is added on top of $45 depending on ur location

FYI...Got AT&T Skyrocket today and my E71 sim worked just fine

Any body knows if their plan is tax included or not. If not, what do I expect to pay a month for the $45 plan?
Did you guys get a 4GB card in the phone? Or did I get lucky?

It comes with 4GB card

[TheBetterHalf]

I hate to ask a really dumb question but where would the 4GB card be or what does it look like?

[JoeSmith2010]

Any body knows if their plan is tax included or not. If not, what do I expect to pay a month for the $45 plan?
Tax is not included. However, it's only sales tax and no other fees like most post paid plans.

[bargain_hunter]

I hate to ask a really dumb question but where would the 4GB card be or what does it look like?

Underneath the rubber cover on the side, where the USB port is located.

[TheBetterHalf]

I appreciate that.


Underneath the rubber cover on the side, where the USB port is located.

[DFLY23]

Underneath the rubber cover on the side, where the USB port is located.

Its included on the phone. I think it is where the maps are save.

[bargain_hunter]

Can't seem to get the maps to work. Is there any special tricks? I guess internet search is a good thing.

[roller9]

Did you guys get a 4GB card in the phone? Or did I get lucky?
should come with all

[TheBetterHalf]

By chance does anyone know if I should activate the phone first then port my number over from tmobile? Or should I activate with a transferred number? My prepaid tmobile expired today and stopped working which I thought was a good thing so I could transfer the number. Now I'm not sure if I need to actually add minutes to make the transfer. Help please.

[roller9]

By chance does anyone know if I should activate the phone first then port my number over from tmobile? Or should I activate with a transferred number? My prepaid tmobile expired today and stopped working which I thought was a good thing so I could transfer the number. Now I'm not sure if I need to actually add minutes to make the transfer. Help please.
Don't think you can port tmobile number now that it's dead you may need to re activate it, you usually have to port old number while it's active..... also when porting it's best to port while activating new line.

[GABulldawg]

Does any know if all the E71s are sent with the ATT sim? I put in an ATT only zipcode, but I get an error when checking out. I want to try to check out with my own zipcode, which is a TMo+ATT market, but I'm concerned they might package it with a TMo sim.

Thanks

[jaysen]

Have anyone tried it on an iPad or ipad2?

I'd like to know this as well... or any tablet that uses sim ??

[SilentJudge]

Does any know if all the E71s are sent with the ATT sim? I put in an ATT only zipcode, but I get an error when checking out. I want to try to check out with my own zipcode, which is a TMo+ATT market, but I'm concerned they might package it with a TMo sim.

Thanks

The Nokia E71 on ST only uses AT&T SIMs :)

I'd like to know this as well... or any tablet that uses sim ??

It will work fine AS LONG AS you can change the APN settings on the device. They dont do any IMEI blocking.

thanks for all the helpful info on this thread SilentJudge

i've repped you x 4

if possible , i think it would be noteworthy if someone could post on the Wiki: that Unlimited data is not really unlimited
and that it should be keep in the range of 2gb per month

Thank you, and done!

[jayplus]

I ordered this and probably wont be using it.

I haven't received it yet but now I am considering what to do with it. I could return the phone to straight talk, but I cant return the first month of service that was charged.

Probably a stupid question but..
Can I sell the phone w/ sim card and the first month of service to someone else? I was thinking eBay, but I'm not sure if they can activate it (??) or if the first month of service must be used within a certain time frame?

[technophile]

Have spent 8+ hours with ST customer service over two days to sort out activation, number porting etc ....
They ported my # from ATT and now have to send me anoter sim. I will have to wait another 5-7 business days to get the sim. In the meantime I have no service from ATT or ST and will miss all important incalls. WTF?

Worst CS i have dealt with all my life.

TO ALL THOSE WHO WANT TO PORT:
Activate the phone along with the # port request. If you port it after activating, the sim they sent you will be invalid and they will ship you another one (3-7 busines days)

I hope in the end the savings will be worth this BS!

[Majakat]

If I have an e71 unbranded phone i use with att right now (they do not see it as a smart phone) could i buy a cheap straight talk phone and activate it in my e71, then switch to my iphone?

[kingfisher1111]

If I have an e71 unbranded phone i use with att right now (they do not see it as a smart phone) could i buy a cheap straight talk phone and activate it in my e71, then switch to my iphone?

Read the posting correctly. You can't use unbranded phone. The phone should be from straighttalk as the IMEI of the phone resides in the system and they give a sim based on the IMEI number.. So for your case no go..YOu need to buy on Nokia E71 straight talk phone..

[Majakat]

Read the posting correctly. You can't use unbranded phone. The phone should be from straighttalk as the IMEI of the phone resides in the system and they give a sim based on the IMEI number.. So for your case no go..YOu need to buy on Nokia E71 straight talk phone..

Thanks for the clarification!

[tickle_tickle]

Big props. Ordered one of these yesterday. Can't wait! Now, to find an ATT iPhone for cheeeaaaap.

[Defying_Odds]

Can anyone that has received a phone confirm that you have 90 days to activate the service card that comes with it? I can't find any mention of it on the ST website.

[roller9]

Have spent 8+ hours with ST customer service over two days to sort out activation, number porting etc ....
They ported my # from ATT and now have to send me anoter sim. I will have to wait another 5-7 business days to get the sim. In the meantime I have no service from ATT or ST and will miss all important incalls. WTF?

Worst CS i have dealt with all my life.

TO ALL THOSE WHO WANT TO PORT:
Activate the phone along with the # port request. If you port it after activating, the sim they sent you will be invalid and they will ship you another one (3-7 busines days)

I hope in the end the savings will be worth this BS!
I mentioned to someone a few posts ago to PORT WHILE ACTIVATING

[jaysen]

I mentioned to someone a few posts ago to PORT WHILE ACTIVATING


Meh... This sucks. I activated with intentions of porting later on to get an idea of what service would be like now before ending my Spring service... hm.. I probably should've read everything - FML.

[SilentJudge]

Meh... This sucks. I activated with intentions of porting later on to get an idea of what service would be like now before ending my Spring service... hm.. I probably should've read everything - FML.

You can still port in later, its just more of a hassle. Just note you will lose ALL current service and days paid for, so do it after you've used up your 30 days unless you dont care.

They will most likely send you a new SIM card in order to port your number in.

Can anyone that has received a phone confirm that you have 90 days to activate the service card that comes with it? I can't find any mention of it on the ST website.

It should be on the back of the card for those who have received a phone.

[ursdbz]

I have few questions to clarify. Thanks.
Q1. I just bought 2phones. Can I activate one and use both 1-month refill cards on the first phone?
Q2. Can I activate the second phone six months later?
Q3. Can I stack up 3 or 6-months refill cards and use them as i need them or do they expire?
Q4. Can I use 4x 3-months refill cards at once or I have to wait til the last day because I thought I read somewhere there is no rollover?

[ak11228]

I have few questions to clarify. Thanks.
Q1. I just bought 2phones. Can I activate one and use both 1-month refill cards on the first phone?
Q2. Can I activate the second phone six months later?
Q3. Can I stack up 3 or 6-months refill cards and use them as i need them or do they expire?
Q4. Can I use 4x 3-months refill cards at once or I have to wait til the last day because I thought I read somewhere there is no rollover?

Q4 you can add in as many 1 month card and it will carry on. ex: 2x 1 month will give u 60days.

[Cirrus]

No, it says activation required and kept searching for a while and then No Network. It doesn't let me use the phone at all. They said my iPhone is unlocked but it's not true. Sprint sucks!
Sprint only unlocks the international stuff, it's always permanently locked for the US.

[TheBetterHalf]

Here is my experience so far. I called this morning to get it activated and port at the same time. After the rep I spoke with messed up a few things I decided against porting at the time. I thought I would be out of service if I did and he was having so much trouble. Well its almost 24 hours and my phone still does not work. They tell me its activated, but no phone number and no calls out. Its still showing sim registration failed. I wonder is it too late to try and port since I don't even have a number?

[technophile]

To all those activating these E71s. Here is what I have gathered from my 16+ hours of dealing with their Cust Service:

1) See my earlier post about porting
2) The refurb phones belonged to someone else in the past and were associated with their phone #. Mine was an area code 2000 miles away. Even though they sent you a new sim, it has not been linked with your phone and your sim will fail to register. You will need to call CS and have them activate the sim. They will keep telling you to just wait an hour and then turn the phone off & on. Or they will tell you that they need to send you a new sim. Insist that you already have a new sim and they need to activate it. Ask to talk to "teir 2" tech support. After lot of insistence and hours it will happen ...Also port at the time of activation or else ...(see my earlier post)

What a shame about customer service ....

And I just saw Metro PCS promotion for $100 for 4 lines, unlimited voice, text and data. You have to buy their phone though or flash the verizon ones...

Pls rep if you fell like :)


Here is my experience so far. I called this morning to get it activated and port at the same time. After the rep I spoke with messed up a few things I decided against porting at the time. I thought I would be out of service if I did and he was having so much trouble. Well its almost 24 hours and my phone still does not work. They tell me its activated, but no phone number and no calls out. Its still showing sim registration failed. I wonder is it too late to try and port since I don't even have a number?

[roller9]

No need to call CS, simply follow online instructions to activate sim to imei of phone, refurb or not, I do about 3 of these a week and NEVER have to contact CS even when porting!!!You guys are wasting time calling CS to activate over the phone...period!!!

[joon82]

No need to call CS, simply follow online instructions to activate sim to imei of phone, refurb or not, I do about 3 of these a week and NEVER have to contact CS even when porting!!!You guys are wasting time calling CS to activate over the phone...period!!!
There are many sim card thats bad. You have to call to get new sim card. I had bad sim card and had to call cs. Horrible cs
But other than cs, everything is good.
Using galaxy s 2.
3mb down everywhere i go.
Good coverage too(had tmobile and coverage sucked)

[Defying_Odds]

It should be on the back of the card for those who have received a phone.

Can anyone that received a phone recently confirm that it says on the back of the card you have 90 days to activate the plan please?

[TheBetterHalf]

Well an update and hopefully a happy ending to my experience. Rep to technophile for the Tier 2 support call. It worked. The rep transferred me to Tier 2 support and they were able to port my number and activate my sim. It did take some time and patience, but once all was done my number was ported within an hour this morning. Now here is hoping I can put this sim in my unlocked and jailbroken 3gs and getting everything to work.

[roller9]

Well an update and hopefully a happy ending to my experience. Rep to technophile for the Tier 2 support call. It worked. The rep transferred me to Tier 2 support and they were able to port my number and activate my sim. It did take some time and patience, but once all was done my number was ported within an hour this morning. Now here is hoping I can put this sim in my unlocked and jailbroken 3gs and getting everything to work.
cool that you're unlocked, but don't need unlock for this, just need jailbreak for native mms to work. This sim runs on at&t's network so you'll get true 3G speeds and be able to access data during a call etc...

[roller9]

Can anyone that received a phone recently confirm that it says on the back of the card you have 90 days to activate the plan please?
I think this if from a phone I did last week, that I had sitting around, I'm not sure tho.

[jeremym]

Works in USVI with full coverage and fast data speeds. I was just in St Thomas last week and was getting "3.5g" data.

Added to wiki.

[Defying_Odds]

I think this if from a phone I did last week, that I had sitting around, I'm not sure tho.

thanks for posting this roller9. from what I see in the fine print, you have 1 year though not 90 days, silentjudge?

[ursdbz]

I think this if from a phone I did last week, that I had sitting around, I'm not sure tho.

The second BOLD paragraph scared me. As I never use ST or refill before. From what I read and understand. If you refill too early in the month, you loose the remaining days? Can someone confirm this please.

[kingfisher1111]

The second BOLD paragraph scared me. As I never use ST or refill before. From what I read and understand. If you refill too early in the month, you loose the remaining days? Can someone confirm this please.

Yes.. you will loose.. they won't refund that. It happened to couple of people on howard forums.. If you abuse their system, they will terminate it.. Be fair and play fair..

[SilentJudge]

thanks for posting this roller9. from what I see in the fine print, you have 1 year though not 90 days, silentjudge?

I stand corrected :)

[Defying_Odds]

I stand corrected :)

lol your input has been much appreciated, this was probably a good one for you to be incorrect about.

[tickle_tickle]

anyone else get any weirdness with ordering? I put my order in on Friday but didn't get a confirmation email or order number. Also, their system cannot locate my order number. I'd hate to double order...

[roller9]

anyone else get any weirdness with ordering? I put my order in on Friday but didn't get a confirmation email or order number. Also, their system cannot locate my order number. I'd hate to double order...
anything showing in bank account?

[firebolt]

Have anyone tried it on an iPad or ipad2?

I heard AT&T server will identify when you use it on iPad or iPad 2 and they block it

[preacherzson]

which cashback site for 15%? Thx.

Total in cart (for 1 phone) is $95?-> phone ($50)+ 1 month ($45)?

[monkeybiz]

is this a symbian o s ?

[saechaka]

Absolute worst customer service. I tried returning a phone I bought previously and it took well over 3 hours and they kept trying to get me to activate the phone. But I must add that if you don't have to deal w/their csr then it is a great plan. I'm using it w/my IPhone 3GS. Just dont go over 2gb data per month and keep to about 100mb per day and you will be fine. I know from firsthand exp. Great deal.

[SilentJudge]

is this a symbian o s ?

The E71 runs Symbian OS 9.2, Series 60
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_e71-2425.php

I heard AT&T server will identify when you use it on iPad or iPad 2 and they block it

They already know we're not using the E71 with the SIM if we're using iPhones or Androids, an iPad won't trigger anything special.

[searchdeal]

which cashback site for 15%? Thx.

Total in cart (for 1 phone) is $95?-> phone ($50)+ 1 month ($45)?

f a t w a l l et is one of them.

First proper result from the below search.

http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&source=hp&q=straight+talk+cash+back&pbx=1&oq=straight+talk+cas&aq=1&aqi=g3g-v1&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=258l3959l0l5246l17l9l0l6l6l0l221l1449l1.6.2l13l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=5e5dbe27be132868&biw=1280&bih=910&safe=active

[Defying_Odds]

Not sure if Roller and I got different cards but my phone arrived today and had this literature on the back. It makes me a little nervous because I wont be activating for a month or so when my current contract expires. Can anyone else that have received a phone post if theirs states an expiration?

[roller9]

Not sure if Roller and I got different cards but my phone arrived today and had this literature on the back. It makes me a little nervous because I wont be activating for a month or so when my current contract expires. Can anyone else that have received a phone post if theirs states an expiration?
Yup that's why I said I wasn't sure exactly which activation that card came from , but the cards I got today with this deal look like yours, you could always call CS and ask but I don't think this would have changed, but better safe than sorry.

[roller9]

Everyone doing ok with these so far?

[Defying_Odds]

Can anyone advise on shipping I've read some not so good things... I placed orders at 5:00pm est and 8:00 pm est. Is there anyway that I will get the phones friday? I know it states overnight shipping but it sounds like it takes a day to process.

[traxxasmaniac]

I guess if you order early enough, it will ship the same day. I ordered at 10AM PST, and it shipped that day.

[roller9]

Can anyone advise on shipping I've read some not so good things... I placed orders at 5:00pm est and 8:00 pm est. Is there anyway that I will get the phones friday? I know it states overnight shipping but it sounds like it takes a day to process.
hit/miss

[exbauer]

I have to say the customer service sucks. I order the phone and came in Monday. It was next day since I ordered it late Thursday. I get the phone and put the SIM in and the phone says SIM card registration failed. This is on Monday. I let them know about it and they said they would activate it on their end. They start the port process late Monday and they said it would take a couple of hours to a couple of days. My phone was set to renew with T-Mobile Wednesday. The port went through Wednesday. So, I try to use my E71 and it still states the SIM card registration failed. I am now now of service with T-Mobile and STW is not working either. They said they would ship out the new SIM Wednesday. Why didn't they do this on Monday or Tuesday when I told them it was not registering Monday? I have no service and need it for work. They better offer me some compensation. I am furious with their customer service so far.

[Magnum2005]

I have to say the customer service sucks. I order the phone and came in Monday. It was next day since I ordered it late Thursday. I get the phone and put the SIM in and the phone says SIM card registration failed. This is on Monday. I let them know about it and they said they would activate it on their end. They start the port process late Monday and they said it would take a couple of hours to a couple of days. My phone was set to renew with T-Mobile Wednesday. The port went through Wednesday. So, I try to use my E71 and it still states the SIM card registration failed. I am now now of service with T-Mobile and STW is not working either. They said they would ship out the new SIM Wednesday. Why didn't they do this on Monday or Tuesday when I told them it was not registering Monday? I have no service and need it for work. They better offer me some compensation. I am furious with their customer service so far.
If it makes it any better...once porting process goes through everything works pretty well....I do not know if it is ST or company you are porting from I ported from AT&T prepaid and process was less than smooth, however ported from AT&T postpaid and process was pretty smooth. There has been some instances when some individuals forever lost their number(s) while porting...but they are few and far in between. I got 14 days of service for compensation (took 5 days to port one #)Good luck!

[roller9]

Like Magnum2005 said,when porting, it's your current carrier that makes this delayed by not releasing your number, NOT the carrier you're porting to.

[spitcool]

Has anyone else NOT activated their phones yet? I can now, but I don't need it until mid january. But like someone else said, better safe than sorry.

[TheBetterHalf]

Well I got everything activated and ported over from TMobile. I have to admit. That was Sunday. Today is Friday and I am willing to RUN back to TMobile. I have had more dropped calls than anything. I put the sim into my 3gs and when its on 3g it is faster but in the middle of a phone call--click. Every day since Sunday. That sucks. So if anyone knows how to fix this great. If not, I have a E71 I'm willing to sale.

[joon82]

Well I got everything activated and ported over from TMobile. I have to admit. That was Sunday. Today is Friday and I am willing to RUN back to TMobile. I have had more dropped calls than anything. I put the sim into my 3gs and when its on 3g it is faster but in the middle of a phone call--click. Every day since Sunday. That sucks. So if anyone knows how to fix this great. If not, I have a E71 I'm willing to sale.

Could be your phone.
My tmobile phone(sensation 4g) was giving me no service and 1 bar.
paid 200 termination fee and moved to straight talk(customer service sux!!!!!!!!!!!)
No problem with service = dont have to call monkeys
I think my 5 year old cousin can speak/understand better.

I always get around 3mb down and 1 up. Drove all around texas with no problem.

I cant believe they dont waive termination fee even if they dont service your area. They put it in contract few years ago so they can get paid.

ebay, craigslist, google gps, web surf, email, facebook
still less than 500MB per month.

[drfeelgood187]

I have to say the customer service sucks. I order the phone and came in Monday. It was next day since I ordered it late Thursday. I get the phone and put the SIM in and the phone says SIM card registration failed. This is on Monday. I let them know about it and they said they would activate it on their end. They start the port process late Monday and they said it would take a couple of hours to a couple of days. My phone was set to renew with T-Mobile Wednesday. The port went through Wednesday. So, I try to use my E71 and it still states the SIM card registration failed. I am now now of service with T-Mobile and STW is not working either. They said they would ship out the new SIM Wednesday. Why didn't they do this on Monday or Tuesday when I told them it was not registering Monday? I have no service and need it for work. They better offer me some compensation. I am furious with their customer service so far.

Yeah, they ported my att number before they sent me a new SIM card as well and it took 2 weeks of frustration to finally get a working cell phone. They did give me a free month as a result. Once everything is set up, there really is no reason for customer service. I'm enjoying the E71 until I find a free android to stick the SIM card in.

[joon82]

I have to say the customer service sucks. I order the phone and came in Monday. It was next day since I ordered it late Thursday. I get the phone and put the SIM in and the phone says SIM card registration failed. This is on Monday. I let them know about it and they said they would activate it on their end. They start the port process late Monday and they said it would take a couple of hours to a couple of days. My phone was set to renew with T-Mobile Wednesday. The port went through Wednesday. So, I try to use my E71 and it still states the SIM card registration failed. I am now now of service with T-Mobile and STW is not working either. They said they would ship out the new SIM Wednesday. Why didn't they do this on Monday or Tuesday when I told them it was not registering Monday? I have no service and need it for work. They better offer me some compensation. I am furious with their customer service so far.


Keep call them until they send you new sim card.
They can not fix broken sim card without new sim card.
They told me they can fix it in 2 days but that was lie.
Sent me new sim card using fedex overnight.

One CS told me he would send new sim card so I waited.
Called next day and other CS told me they never sent new sim card.
LOL

I heard them speaking middle eastern language when I called.
They talked for 2-3 min in their language
after that CS picked up and said Thank you for calling straight talk This is Micheal how can I help you?............

[Josh79]

Their online refill mentions $45 plus tax.
Is there a place to buy it at $45 like other prepaids or use a discount like callingmart? Thx!

[SilentJudge]

Their online refill mentions $45 plus tax.
Is there a place to buy it at $45 like other prepaids or use a discount like callingmart? Thx!

No. But if you buy the 3-month refills, it comes out to be less than $45/mo even with taxes.

In some states, prepaid refills are not charged tax, in which case you can buy it from walmart.com and they just email you the pin code.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Email-Delivery-Straight-Talk-Unlimited-Text-Talk-and-Web-Access-30-Day-Service-Card/15443344

[ak11228]

No. But if you buy the 3-month refills, it comes out to be less than $45/mo even with taxes.

In some states, prepaid refills are not charged tax, in which case you can buy it from walmart.com and they just email you the pin code.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Email-Delivery-Straight-Talk-Unlimited-Text-Talk-and-Web-Access-30-Day-Service-Card/15443344

Do you know what states doesnt charge tax for prepaid card?

[SilentJudge]

Do you know what states doesnt charge tax for prepaid card?

No, I don't have a list.

However you can just go through the checkout process (without purchasing) and see if they charge tax for your state.

[roller9]

I pay 45.90 total a month in CA

[SilentJudge]

For me in California, the 3-month refills on StraightTalk.com are $128.63 with taxes, which works out to be just under $43/mo. So if you don't have a problem with paying 3 months in advance, its cheaper than $45/mo.

[roller9]

For me in California, the 3-month refills on StraightTalk.com are $128.63 with taxes, which works out to be just under $43/mo. So if you don't have a problem with paying 3 months in advance, its cheaper than $45/mo.
yup, I thought about doing that but I'm always thinking somethin better than ST on iphone will come along as soon as I do, but it never does lol, plus it's only about .10 less a day

[SilentJudge]

yup, I thought about doing that but I'm always thinking somethin better than ST on iphone will come along as soon as I do, but it never does lol, plus it's only about .10 less a day

Better in what way? But yeah, its minimal costs compared to the gigantic amount you save over a contract.

[roller9]

Better in what way? But yeah, its minimal costs compared to the gigantic amount you save over a contract.
better like a $30 plan with unlimited 3g or even better lol.... I think you misunderstood me, I already use the ST $45 a month, but was just saying I don't wanna even lock my self down for 3 months to save $3 a month because I'm always thinking when I do lock down, ST or some other company's gonna have some crazy super deal available or maybe ST will piss me off but neither has happened in over a year lol

[harpo1]

Do you know what states doesnt charge tax for prepaid card?

In California if you buy your refill card from Walmart B&M they don't charge tax so $45 OTD.

[SilentJudge]

better like a $30 plan with unlimited 3g or even better lol.... I think you misunderstood me, I already use the ST $45 a month, but was just saying I don't wanna even lock my self down for 3 months to save $3 a month because I'm always thinking when I do lock down, ST or some other company's gonna have some crazy super deal available or maybe ST will piss me off but neither has happened in over a year lol

Haha, not going to happen on AT&T. H2O Wireless is supposedly getting $55 Unlimited Talk/Text + 1GB Data soon and considering that H2O is one of the largest ATT MVNO's, they should be able to get the lowest wholesale prices from AT&T yet thats still not comparable to ST. (America Movil/Tracfone/Straight Talk is probably AT&T's #1 MVNO) H2O is owned by KDDI btw, which is huge and they aren't able to get much out of AT&T compared to competing MVNOs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDDI_Corporation). AT&T isn't going to give its MVNOs anything game changing. Its all cookie cutter $40 Unlimited Talk/Text, $50 Unlimited Talk/Text+250MB, and $60 Unlimited Talk/Text+2GB for the moment (H2O, Red Pocket, Jolt Mobile, etc [all ATT MVNOs])

I wouldn't count on seeing anything better than the $45/mo "Unlimited" currently on Straight Talk for something that uses AT&T towers. At least not in the next 6 months. Not to mention ST has better coverage than AT&T's own GoPhone service, which is worth something.

If your fine with few minutes and T-Mobile coverage, they do have the $30 100 min, Unlimited Text/MMS, and 5GB high-speed internet followed by throttled unlimited. People with the T-Mobile SGS2 have speedtested 10-15mbps down on that plan.

But yeah, I understand your concern about the 3 months thing. I don't use more than 1GB a month on ST, so I doubt they'll ever kick me off :)

[roller9]

Haha, not going to happen on AT&T. H2O Wireless is supposedly getting $55 Unlimited Talk/Text + 1GB Data soon and considering that H2O is one of the largest ATT MVNO's, they should be able to get the lowest wholesale prices from AT&T yet thats still not comparable to ST. (America Movil/Tracfone/Straight Talk is probably AT&T's #1 MVNO) H2O is owned by KDDI btw, which is huge and they aren't able to get much out of AT&T compared to competing MVNOs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDDI_Corporation). AT&T isn't going to give its MVNOs anything game changing. Its all cookie cutter $40 Unlimited Talk/Text, $50 Unlimited Talk/Text+250MB, and $60 Unlimited Talk/Text+2GB for the moment (H2O, Red Pocket, Jolt Mobile, etc [all ATT MVNOs])

I wouldn't count on seeing anything better than the $45/mo "Unlimited" currently on Straight Talk for something that uses AT&T towers. At least not in the next 6 months. Not to mention ST has better coverage than AT&T's own GoPhone service, which is worth something.

If your fine with few minutes and T-Mobile coverage, they do have the $30 100 min, Unlimited Text/MMS, and 5GB high-speed internet followed by throttled unlimited. People with the T-Mobile SGS2 have speedtested 10-15mbps down on that plan.
lol i'm good with my ST45 and running an iphone on tmobile's edge is like having a lambo with a honda engine in it, h20's data speeds are throttled and gophone rates suck!

[SilentJudge]

lol i'm good with my ST45 and running an iphone on tmobile's edge is like having a lambo with a honda engine in it, h20's data speeds are throttled and gophone rates suck!

Yup right on :cool:

[domino]

Best way to get help from ST is via their Facebook. Tho I have never had problems w their p
hone cs...

[JuMpMaN6235]

Free overnight extended to 12/21
Got an E71 + $45 unlimited card.. with FW CB, this was a great deal.
This is even comparable to Sprint SERO plans, which is what i have right now. Sprint wants to charge me an extra $20/month to use the iPhone (or any "premium" phone) ... Im going with this ST route instead

[roller9]

Free overnight extended to 12/21
Got an E71 + $45 unlimited card.. with FW CB, this was a great deal.
This is even comparable to Sprint SERO plans, which is what i have right now. Sprint wants to charge me an extra $20/month to use the iPhone (or any "premium" phone) ... Im going with this ST route instead
I noticed they extended free overnight date too lol...yea man ST is the way to go on Iphone, no problems whatsoever with all the bells and whistles as a contract plan at 1/3 the bill lol

[JuMpMaN6235]

Have spent 8+ hours with ST customer service over two days to sort out activation, number porting etc ....
They ported my # from ATT and now have to send me anoter sim. I will have to wait another 5-7 business days to get the sim. In the meantime I have no service from ATT or ST and will miss all important incalls. WTF?

Worst CS i have dealt with all my life.

TO ALL THOSE WHO WANT TO PORT:
Activate the phone along with the # port request. If you port it after activating, the sim they sent you will be invalid and they will ship you another one (3-7 busines days)

I hope in the end the savings will be worth this BS!

I wonder if this is just an isolated incident?
I want to test out ST before i port... try it for just a few days and see if i get good service, then port. If i port right away i will lose my current plan with sprint and there will be no way for me to get it back (sero)

[archliberal]

I wonder if this is just an isolated incident?
I want to test out ST before i port... try it for just a few days and see if i get good service, then port. If i port right away i will lose my current plan with sprint and there will be no way for me to get it back (sero)

not isolated. i called myself heeding the warning of technophile and ported along with the activation request. i received the phone on time, and went to activate it but was still told they would have to send another SIM card. i was told likewise to wait 3-7 business days. there have been a couple of obvious lies, like my address was the reason the SIM hadn't shipped out yet.

[JuMpMaN6235]

So i attempted to activate my E71 online, got an error saying the phone was already active another a diff account. Had to call and get it sorted out, took about an hour on the phone. So my phone finally starts working, but wait its phone number is from a diff state ... guess what? they need to send me a new SIM, 3-7days... I dont understand after so many incidents they cant get their act together?

I have been testing the phone out and im getting better talk and data service than i am with sprint in my area. I will be porting.

[ilovethissite]

Free overnight extended to 12/21
Got an E71 + $45 unlimited card.. with FW CB, this was a great deal.
This is even comparable to Sprint SERO plans, which is what i have right now. Sprint wants to charge me an extra $20/month to use the iPhone (or any "premium" phone) ... Im going with this ST route instead


I was in the exact same boat, out of contract on a couple of sero's, seriously debating the 3g phone options with sprint, and spending another $10 a month (plus taxes) on my $30 plan for those phones was going to cost exactly the same as this deal after taxes... So I bit the bullet, ordered the e71, activated, swapped, and am now in love my 3g iphone. The ST/ATT service does seem better (coverage and call quality) than the sprint service.

I think this will kill off quite a few old $30 sero plan folks that just can't deal with the TP2 anymore. Sorry sprint, it's been fun :cool:

[JuMpMaN6235]

I was in the exact same boat, out of contract on a couple of sero's, seriously debating the 3g phone options with sprint, and spending another $10 a month (plus taxes) on my $30 plan for those phones was going to cost exactly the same as this deal after taxes... So I bit the bullet, ordered the e71, activated, swapped, and am now in love my 3g iphone. The ST/ATT service does seem better (coverage and call quality) than the sprint service.

I think this will kill off quite a few old $30 sero plan folks that just can't deal with the TP2 anymore. Sorry sprint, it's been fun :cool:

Yup! Agree with you. With SERO, In my house, I would constantly have calls go straight to my voicemail. This never happened with the tests i did with the E71 .... also I only got about 100-200 kb/sec with sprint... w/ ST i get a 800-900kb/sec.
Check this out.. you can make it actually much cheaper than SERO..

Right now ST has a deal for the samsung TG01G. The phone comes with 3 months of the unlimited service for $99. If you use FW cashback and can sell the TG01G for like $20. It ends up being $24/month
For me:
$99+ 6% tax for the 3 months unlimited service + TG01G phone= $105
FW CB = -$15
Sell phone= -$20
=$70 for 3 months (or $23.33/month)

I went ahead and bought a years worth lol

[roller9]

IOS 5.0.1 UNTETHERED JAILBREAK released for all non A5 devices!!

[Stin]

I am in kind of a difficult position right now. Currently I have the SERO premium plan which gives me 500 daytime minutes, unlimited mobile-mobile calls to any cell, unlimited text, and unlimited data for $45 a month after taxes. Same price as StraightTalk. I am trying to decide if I should stay with Sprint and get an iphone or do the ST iphone sim swap trick.

Basically through my research it comes down to this..

Sprint
Pros: Truly unlimited data, don't have to worry about being shut off or terminated.
Cons: slower 3G data than AT&T. I get about 1 meg max d/l on Sprint and more like 200-500kb average. At home it's even worse but I can use wifi so not a huge deal.

Straight Talk
Pros: Faster data, unlimited minutes
Cons: Could be shut off at anytime for using too much data, customer service sounds like it is pretty poor.
Have to jailbreak iphone to get MMS to work. Have to worry if ST will catch on in the future and block everyone's phones (this has been going on for over a year with no one saying anything).

I know that theoretically AT&T data should be 2-3x times faster, but in tests I've seen AT&T averaging only 1.6 mbps, with Sprint around 0.8 mbps. If I'm browsing mobile websites on Opera Mini, or streaming a song or podcast is that even going to be a noticeable difference? My guess is no. With Sprint I would keep unlimited data and basically have unlimited minutes anyways with any mobile any time. Even if I don't go over 2GB I just like that I don't have to worry about how much I'm messing around with apps or browsing/streaming on Sprint. Also if I got rid of SERO I would have no chance of keeping that cheap plan when LTE comes along. With ST I can forget tethering (MyWi), 3G Facetime, or any other data intensive app.

There it is, right now I don't know what to do. I don't currently need unlimited minutes but that could always change in the future and it's just something that would be nice to have. The data part of ST scares me having to always watch what I'm downloading and limit my usage to wifi as much as possible. The thing is, if I cancel my SERO plan it will be lost forever. It seems like the ST plan will be around for awhile and they don't seem to be cracking down on iphone users unless they are using too much data. The plus to staying with Sprint would be that I would keep unlimited data, and hopefully when the new LTE phones come out I will be able to get blazing fast unlimited speeds with no cap. This will never be possible on AT&T or any other network. I would save $132 a year or $264 2/yr on ST, but the other wild card is that I'm out of contract on Sprint so I'm eligible for the full upgrade credit. If I stay with Sprint I would probably try to buy an iphone 4 8GB on ebay for ~$300, save my upgrade credit, use it on the iphone 5 later in the year if it has LTE, and then sell the iphone 4 basically making the upgrade to the 5 free.

What would you do if you were in my situation? Stick it out with SERO or move on?

[SilentJudge]

I am in kind of a difficult position right now. Currently I have the SERO premium plan which gives me 500 daytime minutes, unlimited mobile-mobile calls to any cell, unlimited text, and unlimited data for $45 a month after taxes. Same price as StraightTalk. I am trying to decide if I should stay with Sprint and get an iphone or do the ST iphone sim swap trick.

Basically through my research it comes down to this..

Sprint
Pros: Truly unlimited data, don't have to worry about being shut off or terminated.
Cons: slower 3G data than AT&T. I get about 1 meg max d/l on Sprint and more like 200-500kb average. At home it's even worse but I can use wifi so not a huge deal.

Straight Talk
Pros: Faster data, unlimited minutes
Cons: Could be shut off at anytime for using too much data, customer service sounds like it is pretty poor.
Have to jailbreak iphone to get MMS to work. Have to worry if ST will catch on in the future and block everyone's phones (this has been going on for over a year with no one saying anything).

I know that theoretically AT&T data should be 2-3x times faster, but in tests I've seen AT&T averaging only 1.6 mbps, with Sprint around 0.8 mbps. If I'm browsing mobile websites on Opera Mini, or streaming a song or podcast is that even going to be a noticeable difference? My guess is no. With Sprint I would keep unlimited data and basically have unlimited minutes anyways with any mobile any time. Even if I don't go over 2GB I just like that I don't have to worry about how much I'm messing around with apps or browsing/streaming on Sprint. Also if I got rid of SERO I would have no chance of keeping that cheap plan when LTE comes along. With ST I can forget tethering (MyWi), 3G Facetime, or any other data intensive app.

There it is, right now I don't know what to do. I don't currently need unlimited minutes but that could always change in the future and it's just something that would be nice to have. The data part of ST scares me having to always watch what I'm downloading and limit my usage to wifi as much as possible. The thing is, if I cancel my SERO plan it will be lost forever. It seems like the ST plan will be around for awhile and they don't seem to be cracking down on iphone users unless they are using too much data. The plus to staying with Sprint would be that I would keep unlimited data, and hopefully when the new LTE phones come out I will be able to get blazing fast unlimited speeds with no cap. This will never be possible on AT&T or any other network. I would save $132 a year or $264 2/yr on ST, but the other wild card is that I'm out of contract on Sprint so I'm eligible for the full upgrade credit. If I stay with Sprint I would probably try to buy an iphone 4 8GB on ebay for ~$300, save my upgrade credit, use it on the iphone 5 later in the year if it has LTE, and then sell the iphone 4 basically making the upgrade to the 5 free.

What would you do if you were in my situation? Stick it out with SERO or move on?

In regards to ST cutting you off, it depends on how much data you use. I've been SIM swapping for 5 months without issue on various Android phones. I never use more than 1GB of data a month. The general rule is no more than 2GB a month and no more than 100MB a day will keep you in the safe zone. I haven't heard of anyone getting their service cut off who abides by this. Even if you use too much data, they just turn off your data. At which point you can just port to another carrier.

All the info is here:
http://wiki.howardforums.com/index.php/Straight_Talk_Android

As for AT&T speeds, I can get 6mbps on ST no problem, with 3+ mbps consistently.