Condom broke *At What Point Does Life Begin?

[gonepostl]

Since this is now a debate, it is Podium Time.
At what point does life begin?


I'm re-uping this and if you have a problem talk to me man to man.
Op's you have a lot of nerve. I'm disgusted with this. Locking a thread and leaving a reason is one thing. That's a whole lot better then completely deleting it when a guy really could use some help.

Anyway thanks for all the great responses. I'm not ready to be a father she's not ready to be a mother. Maybe we have a future who knows but we're just kids right now and I hope you can respect that.

Like I said my mom took a birth control pill and here I am today! How efficient are these things? Anybody have any insight? Whats the earliest she can take a pregnancy test

[wikipost]

I believe there are now pregnancy tests that can be used 5 days before the expected start date of her next period.

Maybe she should consider taking the pill on a regular basis so you two don't have any more scares like this.

If you had visited Office Depot instead, you wouldn't be in this situation.

[James Bond 007]

I'm re-uping this and if you have a problem talk to me man to man.
Op's you have a lot of nerve. I'm disgusted with this. Locking a thread and leaving a reason is one thing. That's a whole lot better then completely deleting it when a guy really could use some help.

Anyway thanks for all the great responses. I'm not ready to be a father she's not ready to be a mother. Maybe we have a future who knows but we're just kids right now and I hope you can respect that.

Like I said my mom took a birth control pill and here I am today! How efficient are these things? Anybody have any insight? Whats the earliest she can take a pregnancy test

:woot2: :popcorn:

[Schooby]

Like someone else said... ask your hospital or pharmacist. Is she over 18? If so then it sould be fairly easy. If not...then either man up and get one of her parents to help her the the pill...or find a way round that...although I don't advocate fibbing *disclaimer inserted for saving face :P *

[R.G.]

:woot2: :popcorn:

Hi Bond :wave2: Can I share your popcorn please? :yummy:

[James Bond 007]

Hi Bond :wave2: Can I share your popcorn please? :yummy:

Sure! :popcorn:

:secret: Schoob and I got free refills

[ahnil8er]

just tell her to take the damn pill. its your best option at this point. make sure you pray every night that you dont have little babies running around in 9 months.

[moey]

Morning after pill?? :nod:

[Geeke19]

get better condoms then the ones out of the 50 cent machine at the truck stop.

[serra]

get better condoms then the ones out of the 50 cent machine at the truck stop.

:iagree: the dollar store ones are better. you get what you paid for.

[Schooby]

:iagree: the dollar store ones are better. you get what you paid for.

:lmao: While at the dollar store they may as well stock up on EPT kits too. :lol:

[James Bond 007]

Help for the OP. (http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?sduid=104695&t=549947)

[serra]

:lmao: While at the dollar store they may as well stock up on EPT kits too. :lol:

one stop shopping!! woo-hoo!! :woot:

or.....come back in 9 months to buy diapers and baby wipes. :teehee:

[Schooby]

Help for the OP. (http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?sduid=104695&t=549947)

:lol: I thought it might be a coupon for a patch a flat kit.

He might also want to reconsider pawning that ring from his other thread. :whistlin:

[R.G.]

Sure! :popcorn:

:secret: Schoob and I got free refills

Ooh thanks :popcorn:

[Schooby]

one stop shopping!! woo-hoo!! :woot:

or.....come back in 9 months to buy diapers and baby wipes. :teehee:

:lol: Can you help him find Disney coupons in a few years?

[Landers]

If you aren't ready to be a father and she isn't ready to be a mother, you shouldn't be having sex. You need to be able to handle the consequences of your actions be they what they may. Grow up and be a man.

[Schooby]

If you aren't ready to be a father and she isn't ready to be a mother, you shouldn't be having sex. You need to be able to handle the consequences of your actions be they what they may. Grow up and be a man.

WTH are you talking about? What's the topic again? :confuse3:


Well hell's bells this is a chat thread??? :lol:

[James Bond 007]

If you aren't ready to be a father and she isn't ready to be a mother, you shouldn't be having sex. You need to be able to handle the consequences of your actions be they what they may. Grow up and be a man.

Translated..."Landers say: If going to try to make the beast with two backs, do not be surprised if the beast bites"

[Landers]

Translated..."Landers say: If going to try to make the beast with two backs, do not be surprised if the beast bites"
:lol:

WTH are you talking about? What's the topic again? :confuse3:


Well hell's bells this is a chat thread??? :lol:
An d it is the lounge. I was providing the semi-on/semi-off topic post as is required.

[Schooby]

Translated..."Landers say: If going to try to make the beast with two backs, do not be surprised if the beast bites"

:eek: I didn't know you could get preggers that way!!!

[serra]

WTH are you talking about? What's the topic again? :confuse3:


Well hell's bells this is a chat thread??? :lol:

:ermm: OP wanted to chit-chat about it, and that's what he got...now if he really wanted help, he would have used the help icon, right? :lol:

[Schooby]

:lol:


An d it is the lounge. I was providing the semi-on/semi-off topic post as is required.

Is that like wax on/whacks...nm :evillaf:

[James Bond 007]

:eek: I didn't know you could get preggers that way!!!

Of course you can silly.

[Schooby]

:ermm: OP wanted to chit-chat about it, and that's what he got...now if he really wanted help, he would have used the help icon, right? :lol:

:highfive: Exactly!

[Landers]

Is that like wax on/whacks...nm :evillaf:

If OP had whacks.... then he wouldn't be in the situation he is now... :lol:

[James Bond 007]

Is that like wax on/whacks...nm :evillaf:

:rofl2:

[Landers]

:ermm: OP wanted to chit-chat about it, and that's what he got...now if he really wanted help, he would have used the help icon, right? :lol:
:iagree: We are all helping in our own little ways

[James Bond 007]

:iagree: We are all helping in our own little ways

:woot: :woot: I'm Helping!!!!!!!!!!!

[MadisonAlexa]

http://www.top-to-bottom-leathers.co.uk/fcbelt1.jpg

Try this, OP, for next time :woot2:

:scratch: I think there is a male version, too.

[Jex]

http://www.top-to-bottom-leathers.co.uk/fcbelt1.jpg

Try this, OP, for next time :woot2:

:scratch: I think there is a male version, too.

:iagree:

[MadisonAlexa]

Or if you really want to impress your future babymama, buy the DELUXE:

:thumbup:

http://www.bytheswordinc.com/acatalog/images/bf-340.jpg

[Mobius One]

Wel there is a low chance of anything happining from this, but if you re worried just talk to her about the morning after pill.

I think it is about a week after that she can take a test to find out.

[Texazz]

Wasnt there a country western song once that went:

Shoulda pulled out faster...
But I waited tooooo lonnnnnggg...
Shoulda pulled out faster...
Now the kids a bastard.....

:lmao:

[Benno123]

http://www.top-to-bottom-leathers.co.uk/fcbelt1.jpg

Try this, OP, for next time :woot2:

:scratch: I think there is a male version, too.

From your private collection Madison?

[briang]

pampers
britax
honda odyssey

[James Bond 007]

pampers
britax
honda odyssey

:iagree:

And if anybody here knows about condoms breaking, it's briang.

[Benno123]

Preggers can't be choosers.
Did the OP see this movie?
http://imdb.com/title/tt0478311/

[ahnil8er]

If you aren't ready to be a father and she isn't ready to be a mother, you shouldn't be having sex. You need to be able to handle the consequences of your actions be they what they may. Grow up and be a man.

thats just another excuse for virgins who cant get any. That was my excuse in high scool "i havent had sex...... i want to wait till marriage". it wasnt because i wanted to wait for marriage, but because i couldnt get laid.

[Schooby]

thats just another excuse for virgins who cant get any. That was my excuse in high scool "i havent had sex...... i want to wait till marriage". it wasnt because i wanted to wait for marriage, but because i couldnt get laid.

Clean your bathroom before bringing over a date. :thumbup:

[Mobius One]

thats just another excuse for virgins who cant get any. That was my excuse in high scool "i havent had sex...... i want to wait till marriage". it wasnt because i wanted to wait for marriage, but because i couldnt get laid.

:lmao:


Or maybe because you never know hat kind of STD the girl has....Or maybe because of where I live I worry a lot about that :confused:

[Landers]

thats just another excuse for virgins who cant get any. That was my excuse in high scool "i havent had sex...... i want to wait till marriage". it wasnt because i wanted to wait for marriage, but because i couldnt get laid.
Hey, I never said that I wasn't getting laid... what I was saying was that if he isn't ready to deal with what can come from it, he shouldn't be farking.

[JackHandey]

thats just another excuse for virgins who cant get any. That was my excuse in high scool "i havent had sex...... i want to wait till marriage". it wasnt because i wanted to wait for marriage, but because i couldnt get laid.

:secret: I guess it took you a while to figure out it helps if you let them drink some of the beer too.

[Benno123]

Hey, I never said that I wasn't getting laid... what I was saying was that if he isn't ready to deal with what can come from it, he shouldn't be farking.

of course he should still be farking, that's what the purpose is of men on this planet
just be a little more careful next time

[BackAgain]

Or if you really want to impress your future babymama, buy the DELUXE:

:thumbup:

http://www.bytheswordinc.com/acatalog/images/bf-340.jpgUm...ouch! :eek:

[briang]

thats just another excuse for virgins who cant get any. That was my excuse in high scool "i havent had sex...... i want to wait till marriage". it wasnt because i wanted to wait for marriage, but because i couldnt get laid.

negative, i had plenty of opportunities. i chose to wait though.

[Shadow_Watcher]

I'm re-uping this and if you have a problem talk to me man to man.
Op's you have a lot of nerve. I'm disgusted with this. Locking a thread and leaving a reason is one thing. That's a whole lot better then completely deleting it when a guy really could use some help.

Anyway thanks for all the great responses. I'm not ready to be a father she's not ready to be a mother. Maybe we have a future who knows but we're just kids right now and I hope you can respect that.

Like I said my mom took a birth control pill and here I am today! How efficient are these things? Anybody have any insight? Whats the earliest she can take a pregnancy test


Resist the urge to buy bulk cheap condoms from Amazon when somone posts it to SD.
:nod: :nod: :nod:

[Kristin]

Resist the urge to buy bulk cheap condoms from Amazon when somone posts it to SD.
:nod: :nod: :nod:

:iagree:

[Mobius One]

Resist the urge to buy bulk cheap condoms from Amazon when somone posts it to SD.
:nod: :nod: :nod:

:iagree: you need to use to many to get them to work. Tho they are a nice gift.......for somebody you don't like.

[Striker]

congrats daddy



Sincerely,
http://towleroad.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/burger_king_babes_2.jpg

[briang]

slightly back on topic... i have a box of 10 trojan poly's that are absolutely no good to me any more. I used 2 for about 30 seconds a piece, then took them off. it's like putting a piece of PVC pipe on. Can't feel nuthin. i'm fixed now, so i don't need 'em. i'll trade them for a good local beer.

[Shadow_Watcher]

slightly back on topic... i have a box of 10 trojan poly's that are absolutely no good to me any more. I used 2 for about 30 seconds a piece, then took them off. it's like putting a piece of PVC pipe on. Can't feel nuthin. i'm fixed now, so i don't need 'em. i'll trade them for a good local beer.

Ummm.... are you trading the unused in box or the 2 that you tried on???


:confused: :rolleyes: :confused:

[Kristin]

Ummm.... are you trading the unused in box or the 2 that you tried on???


:confused: :rolleyes: :confused:

:eek: :popcorn:

[briang]

Ummm.... are you trading the unused in box or the 2 that you tried on???


:confused: :rolleyes: :confused:

the 10 unused for a beer. i think the used 2 would only be worth a bud light.

[lippy_grl1]

I'm re-uping this and if you have a problem talk to me man to man.
Op's you have a lot of nerve. I'm disgusted with this. Locking a thread and leaving a reason is one thing. That's a whole lot better then completely deleting it when a guy really could use some help.

Anyway thanks for all the great responses. I'm not ready to be a father she's not ready to be a mother. Maybe we have a future who knows but we're just kids right now and I hope you can respect that.

Like I said my mom took a birth control pill and here I am today! How efficient are these things? Anybody have any insight? Whats the earliest she can take a pregnancy test

she can get emergency contricep tives...might be too late now, but look into it...ask your pharmasist.

[handyguy]

Condoms have to be fresh or this thing happens.

Be sure they are fresh next time.

Also, where is your concern about STDs?

[briang]

wait, aren't some posts missing?

in answer to the op's deleted question...

no, i did not have sex at the age of 20, nor prior. i had sex on 2/14/98 on my wedding night, at the age of 21. 5 years later, we had our daughter, then 2 years later, our first son, then 2 years later our twin boys.

if you can't handle the consequences of sex, don't do it.

[Kristin]

Yeah, I dunno what's going on here. I hereby retract my earlier comment and would like to change my official statement to :popcorn:

[ahnil8er]

awwww man, a bunch of posts got deleted! i had great responses for them too!

Hey, I never said that I wasn't getting laid... what I was saying was that if he isn't ready to deal with what can come from it, he shouldn't be farking.
wasnt trying to say this was the case for you... im just saying, a lot of people use it as an excuse. i sure did for 18 years.
:secret: I guess it took you a while to figure out it helps if you let them drink some of the beer too.
indeed, once i started to drink beer and i started using Rufies, all was well :thumbsup:

[gonepostl]

****edited

The op explained that it's just a warning and nothing personal

[briang]

haha I got warned.
I don't even know why I came here. I'm obviousely much more grown up then all of you. I don't have to warn and delete posts because I get off on power.

if getting warnings is a sign of maturity and age, i'm like 100 years old.

now, if you can't take the advice the loungers are offering you, you are free to exit.

buh bye.

[gonepostl]

P.S.

Proxy's are fun!:cool:

[gonepostl]

Condoms have to be fresh or this thing happens.

Be sure they are fresh next time.

Also, where is your concern about STDs?

Not at all concerned I've been with this girl for 2 years
Can we cut back just a little on the jokes and maybe give me an answer? Sorry maybe I missed them shufflying through the 5 pages of jokes

[BackAgain]

For the sake of the kid, let's all pray that she's not pregnant. :worship:

[briang]

honestly, this thread makes me sad.

For the sake of the kid, let's all pray that she's not pregnant. :worship:

:iagree:

Not at all concerned I've been with this girl for 2 years
Can we cut back just a little on the jokes and maybe give me an answer? Sorry maybe I missed them shufflying through the 5 pages of jokes

i didn't joke at all. keep it in your pants and this won't happen.

[Schooby]

Not at all concerned I've been with this girl for 2 years
Can we cut back just a little on the jokes and maybe give me an answer? Sorry maybe I missed them shufflying through the 5 pages of jokes

OK here's a tip that is off topic...go to your User CP...Options and set your page for 40 posts per page...then it's only 2 pages...see? seems like nothing at all now huh?


And we DID tell you...

plus we asked how old she is? Is she over 18? See a hospital or pharmacist!!

[Kristin]

OP, while you're busy bickering with everyone here... what's being done about your situation? You were given advice hours ago - did you act on it?

[moey]

This kid is 14 that is the problem...

[ahnil8er]

Not at all concerned I've been with this girl for 2 years
Can we cut back just a little on the jokes and maybe give me an answer? Sorry maybe I missed them shufflying through the 5 pages of jokes

what answers are you looking for? it was posted earlier that the pill works about 7 out of 8 times that it is used (87.5% effective). The chances of a girl getting pregnant are slim, and then when you compile that with the effectiveness of the pill, the chances get really small. So, sure there is a small risk, but its the best option you have.

Ive gone through this before, it makes you feel miserable everytime you think about and wait for the girl to have her period. When my condom broke, the girl's period was late by about a week. i wanted to shoot myself, luckily it all worked... she had her period.

[Gray.]

Birth control pills may not work if you are on antibiotics. :nod:

[Mobius One]

what answers are you looking for? it was posted earlier that the pill works about 7 out of 8 times that it is used (87.5% effective). The chances of a girl getting pregnant are slim, and then when you compile that with the effectiveness of the pill, the chances get really small. So, sure there is a small risk, but its the best option you have.

Ive gone through this before, it makes you feel miserable everytime you think about and wait for the girl to have her period. When my condom broke, the girl's period was late by about a week. i wanted to shoot myself, luckily it all worked... she had her period.

:iagree I heard the same thing as well.

[ahnil8er]

worse comes to worst... get an abortion

[cpnqn]

morning after pills are now legal in most places I know of... We got one around here for a certain someone making a DUMB choice...

[briang]

worse comes to worst... get an abortion

another responsible thought.

:rolleyes:

[Shadow_Watcher]

another responsible thought.

:rolleyes:

In all seriousness, how is that not a responsible thought?

In what reality (in this day and age not over a century ago) are a pair of 14 year olds mature enough to raise a child? Unless the kid's girlfriend is his teacher; the morning after pill, abortion, ect. should all be viable options.

[KnowledgeMania]

Vasectomy, get her tubes tied (best option), hysterectomy (nasty side effects), or just castrate yourself (probably not viable if you like to use a condom).

[briang]

what about adoption?

why make the baby suffer?

[ahnil8er]

what about adoption?

why make the baby suffer?

why make the mom suffer through pregnancy? IMHO, it isnt a baby until after the first trimester....

[James Bond 007]

what about adoption?

why make the baby suffer?

why make the mom suffer through pregnancy? IMHO, it isnt a baby until after the first trimester....

What happened to us not trying to help the OP?

[briang]

why make the mom suffer through pregnancy? IMHO, it isnt a baby until after the first trimester....

glad your opinion is not fact.

[Shadow_Watcher]

Vasectomy, get her tubes tied (best option), hysterectomy (nasty side effects), or just castrate yourself (probably not viable if you like to use a condom).

If she gets her tubes tied while she's preggo, the baby will just rip on thru.

what about adoption?

why make the baby suffer?

There is no baby yet you prochoice psyco.

Why let the rest of us suffer by having to deal with the offspring of two idiots?

[ahnil8er]

glad your opinion is not fact.

id love to learn more about it... but when i do a google search with various answers. Ive seen third trimester, second trimester, and even when the baby is actually released from the mom's body.

Please enlighten me... im not trying to be an asshole... but im just curious as to what the true fact is. When is a baby really a baby?

and please, no religious viewpoints... they dont hold up as fact for me.

[briang]

If she gets her tubes tied while she's preggo, the baby will just rip on thru.



There is no baby yet you prochoice psyco.

Why let the rest of us suffer by having to deal with the offspring of two idiots?

pro-life, and psycho? what's up with that? how would their offspring affect you, if it was adopted into a loving family?

[iconian]

what was the OP i missed it and it was edited?

if your condom broke, there is only 1 thing to say: "oh, shit"

[ahnil8er]

what was the OP i missed it and it was edited?

if your condom broke, there is only 1 thing to say: "oh, shit"

OP wanted to know where/how to get morning after pill... and how effective it was... his question was answered promptly and thoroughly... so we went on to pass judgment about his promiscuous lifestyle .

[Shadow_Watcher]

pro-life, and psycho? what's up with that? how would their offspring affect you, if it was adopted into a loving family?

You're not thinking about the life of a 14 year old girl that will be affected by carriing a child full term. You are narrowly thinking about MAYBE a two week old fetus. Mold on bread has more life at that point. We're not talking about a 2nd or 3rd trimester abortion, this is the first trimester of the first trimester (first month MAYBE if not week).

If you feel better having a 14 year old girl be an incubater just so some other people can raise a child, go start spreading your seed. I don't think someone should have to give birth just because they are pregnant, they should have the choice of continuing their life and learning from their mistake.

[Schooby]

What happened to us not trying to help the OP?

They all messed it up and got On Topic...:rolleyes: And now see how much fun they are having? I bet the OP wasn't looking for this anymore than he was for us goofing around..but at least WE were laughing :harhar:

[iconian]

OP wanted to know where/how to get morning after pill... and how effective it was... his question was answered promptly and thoroughly... so we went on to pass judgment about his promiscuous lifestyle .

we wouldn't be SD if we did not do that

OP, u should learn that:)

[James Bond 007]

They all messed it up and got On Topic...:rolleyes: And now see how much fun they are having? I bet the OP wasn't looking for this anymore than he was for us goofing around..but at least WE were laughing :harhar:

Bastages.

[Schooby]

Bastages.

Indubitably!

[cajungirl]

:popcorn:definitely one of the more interesting threads i have read in a while

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:B__y0UOrxtNzVM:http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n171/savdaworld/babyboycongrats.gif

[James Bond 007]

:popcorn:definitely one of the more interesting threads i have read in a while

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:B__y0UOrxtNzVM:http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n171/savdaworld/babyboycongrats.gif

That's better. :hug:

[Kristin]

http://www.ahajokes.com/cartoon/download.gif

[cajungirl]

That's better. :hug:
James:hug:how u doing? u rarely come visit anymore:sadwalk:
Hows the new job, new place? Baby Jr?

[James Bond 007]

James:hug:how u doing? u rarely come visit anymore:sadwalk:
Hows the new job, new place? Baby Jr?

Awesome. I miss you farkers though.

[Mobius One]

http://www.ahajokes.com/cartoon/download.gif

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

[Landers]

In all seriousness, how is that not a responsible thought?

In what reality (in this day and age not over a century ago) are a pair of 14 year olds mature enough to raise a child? Unless the kid's girlfriend is his teacher; the morning after pill, abortion, ect. should all be viable options.
:iagree:

Murder is a really responsible thought. I can't imagine not murdering my own child so my life is a little bit easier.... :rolleyes:

[ahnil8er]

:iagree:

Murder is a really responsible thought. I can't imagine not murdering my own child so my life is a little bit easier.... :rolleyes:

sigh... again... you can only consider it murder if its considered a human. so, im asking again

WHEN IS A BABY CONSIDERED A BABY???

[Brynn]

Just some quick input... I've learned that most people that are "pro-choice" probably aren't gonna let any reasoning otherwise sway their view. Just gonna repeat yourself over and over :(

OP, yes, you guys should have thought about the possible consequences of having sex. Obviously, you did consider it to an extent, thus, you used a condom. But as you have heard several times, I'm sure, the only fool-proof way to not get pregnant is to not have sex. You guys now have a lot of responsibility, especially if she is in fact pregnant. Take the time to think it through, and realize that life isn't just about you nor her. I was once a pregnant teenager also, so I know how you feel, but don't let the fear make the decision for you.

[cajungirl]

sigh... again... you can only consider it murder if its considered a human. so, im asking again

WHEN IS A BABY CONSIDERED A BABY???
IMO, a baby is a baby as soon as its conceived. within a few weeks it has a heartbeat, and to me, anything with a heartbeat is alive

Awesome. I miss you farkers though.
we miss u too, its not the same without u in the mornings

[ahnil8er]

IMO, a baby is a baby as soon as its conceived. within a few weeks it has a heartbeat, and to me, anything with a heartbeat is alive
ok... thats a fair opinion... it doesnt match up with my opinion. Nonetheless.... these are our opinions. we dont really know whats fact or whats just speculation. sure religion tries to impose facts regarding this subject, but not all religions do it the same way. Thats why this whole issue is muddled up... thats why i dont understand when people try and state their opinion as "fact" or say that its "murder"

we miss u too, its not the same without u in the mornings
I dont miss you as much, because Im not a morning SD poster. you are still a funny guy with quality posts though... start posting more... leave baby jr with momma

[Landers]

sigh... again... you can only consider it murder if its considered a human. so, im asking again

WHEN IS A BABY CONSIDERED A BABY???
From the moment of conception it has life and a soul.

[arjunsr]

Just some quick input... I've learned that most people that are "pro-choice" probably aren't gonna let any reasoning otherwise sway their view. Just gonna repeat yourself over and over :(


same goes the other way..

[ahnil8er]

same goes the other way..

stop editing/deleting my posts you tard!

[moey]

I think they resolved this issue in the podium.. The correct answer is 126.

[BackAgain]

I think they resolved this issue in the podium.. The correct answer is 126.They resolved an issue in the podium??!! :shocking:

[Striker]

Remember in the future remind her anal sex is a lot less painful than having a baby.

Or try these

http://www.chez106.com/images/jeffbrown/bushcondom.jpg

The King hears these are stronger than the broken condom you used.


Sincerely,

http://towleroad.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/burger_king_babes_2.jpg

[Shadow_Watcher]

I don't concern myself when it is considered a life really. Just because I don't agree with you while you repeat the same old thing doesn't mean I'm not intitled to my opinion, just as you are. I think the harm done to the life of a person who is not ready to have a child out weights that of a group of cells that have formed together only weeks earlier.

Whether or not the person has the option to raise the child or give it up for adoption, she shouldn't have to go full term is she doesn't want to. If you would have liked to go full term when you were a freshman in HS, that's fine enjoy.

[Landers]

They resolved an issue in the podium??!! :shocking:
:iagree: I call BS.

[ahnil8er]

Remember in the future remind her anal sex is a lot less painful than having a baby.

http://towleroad.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/burger_king_babes_2.jpg

:iagree: Anal is wild and you dont get a child!

[Landers]

I don't concern myself when it is considered a life really. Just because I don't agree with you while you repeat the same old thing doesn't mean I'm not intitled to my opinion, just as you are. I think the harm done to the life of a person who is not ready to have a child out weights that of a group of cells that have formed together only weeks earlier.

Whether or not the person has the option to raise the child or give it up for adoption, she shouldn't have to go full term is she doesn't want to. If you would have liked to go full term when you were a freshman in HS, that's fine enjoy.
If she and he weren't ready for the consequences, they shouldn't have been farking. Everybody knows that from farking comes babies... it's not a frigan mystery..... She and he need to accept the consequences of their actions, there should be no such thing as a second chance with this, as when does the CHILD THAT THEY ARE MURDERING get a second chance?

[Striker]

Sigh. The King doesn't have anything constructive to add. He just loves to troll and in the podium that isn't allowed :(. You mods have broken The King's heart on this dark and dreary day.


Sincerely,
http://towleroad.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/burger_king_babes_2.jpg

[Shadow_Watcher]

If she and he weren't ready for the consequences, they shouldn't have been farking. Everybody knows that from farking comes babies... it's not a frigan mystery..... She and he need to accept the consequences of their actions, there should be no such thing as a second chance with this, as when does the CHILD THAT THEY ARE MURDERING get a second chance?

Yes, kids that age shouldn't be having sex, but that is an unfortunate consquence of being young, not much foresight. Who knows what they we taught about safe sex either? They might follow the 'Pull out and put it on' method, whatever... we established they are dim.

They would be accepting the consequences by dealing with it, either by going full term, having an abortion, morning after pill, ect.. they wouldn't be just ignoring the situation. Unless you have never killed a bug, rodent, plant, or other living organism on this planet, you are being a bit hypocritical. Your faith is what allows you to believe a that the child is alive at the point of conception, that doesn't make it true or mean that people need to acquiesce to your views. Deal with the murder or become a vegan Buddhist and we'll talk.

If the child is really alive at conception and your faith is correct, it should be either sent to heaven, given another chance in reincarnation, or any of the other choices for where a soul/spirtual energy goes when it is released from a vessel. These are all not bad options if you truely have faith in your religion.

[Landers]

Yes, kids that age shouldn't be having sex, but that is an unfortunate consquence of being young, not much foresight. Who knows what they we taught about safe sex either? They might follow the 'Pull out and put it on' method, whatever... we established they are dim.

They would be accepting the consequences by dealing with it, either by going full term, having an abortion, morning after pill, ect.. they wouldn't be just ignoring the situation. Unless you have never killed a bug, rodent, plant, or other living organism on this planet, you are being a bit hypocritical. Your faith is what allows you to believe a that the child is alive at the point of conception, that doesn't make it true or mean that people need to acquiesce to your views. Deal with the murder or become a vegan Buddhist and we'll talk.

If the child is really alive at conception and your faith is correct, it should be either sent to heaven, given another chance in reincarnation, or any of the other choices for where a soul/spirtual energy goes when it is released from a vessel. These are all not bad options if you truely have faith in your religion.
But the Child never gets a choice in the matter, Just bam, done, life over. You can bring up all sorts of living creatures that I have killed, but I've never killed a human, why? Because humans are the only organisms that have a soul. Seriously though dude, do what you want. I'm not some psycho-suicide-bomb-abortion-clinic guy.

Answer me this, why is it ok to murder a baby pre-birth, but its not ok and is punishable by death to murder someone who is already born..?

[ahnil8er]

Sigh. The King doesn't have anything constructive to add. He just loves to troll and in the podium that isn't allowed :(. You mods have broken The King's heart on this dark and dreary day.


Sincerely,
http://towleroad.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/burger_king_babes_2.jpg

:iagree: Trolling is a lost art... and we need to bring it back

[Mobius One]

Remember in the future remind her anal sex is a lot less painful than having a baby.

Or try these

http://www.chez106.com/images/jeffbrown/bushcondom.jpg

The King hears these are stronger than the broken condom you used.


Sincerely,

http://towleroad.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/burger_king_babes_2.jpg

:lmao: I would not trust them

[Shadow_Watcher]

But the Child never gets a choice in the matter, Just bam, done, life over. You can bring up all sorts of living creatures that I have killed, but I've never killed a human, why? Because humans are the only organisms that have a soul. Seriously though dude, do what you want. I'm not some psycho-suicide-bomb-abortion-clinic guy.

Answer me this, why is it ok to murder a baby pre-birth, but its not ok and is punishable by death to murder someone who is already born..?

First of all, it is part of your faith and opinion that only humans have souls. There are many that would disagree and state that every living being has a soul.

The child is not developed enough to have the ability to have a choice and it isn't the baby's choice, nor should it be. Just like parents tell their childtren, "I know best, you'll understand someday" you are actually debating that the child should have a choice to say "Keep me full term so you can miss school and work in McDonalds to barely make ends meet".

I'm not knocking your views, I'm "pro-choice". People should have the options to have the baby or not have the baby. I am prolife to a degree, but life is not a blind course and sometimes choices have to be made. It is the woman's choice, unless she allows the man input. If she is thoughtful enough and able phsycally/mentally to bring a child into this world for someone else to raise or for her to raise, more power to her. If she can't handle it, she should be able to have an abortion at the point where the baby is not biologically a live human being yet.

All of your faith is a beautiful thing and I have mine as well. In reality and in the world of tangibly measurable things, you have to sometimes weight all factors not just your sense of what my conceptually be.

It is punishable by death for killing someone already born because that is the current law. Lobby Congress and the Supreme Court to have the law extend to a fetus.

As far as doing what I want, I would handle things very differently now than when I was in High School. Firstly I didn't have sex in HS, since I didn't want to deal with accidents. Secondly, if an accident happened now I'd approach it as an opporutnity that would have to be discussed and I'd respect her choice.

[Kristin]

The child is not developed enough to have the ability to have a choice and it isn't the baby's choice, nor should it be. Just like parents tell their childtren, "I know best, you'll understand someday" you are actually debating that the child should have a choice to say "Keep me full term so you can miss school and work in McDonalds to barely make ends meet".


Sorry but... this has to be the most ignorant thing I've read all day. "Junior, you need to die. You're healthy, I'm healthy... but I'm going to have you killed. But don't worry, I'm the mommy and I know best. You'll understand someday." :rolleyes:

[Shadow_Watcher]

You're taking that part too literally. I just meant that the baby has no idea the conditions it is going to be born into or the parent's competency. There should be licences to have children where the learner's permit allows people to have sex. If there is a very mature 14 year old that has a strong family structure that can help her raise the child or assist with the medical while she goes full term to give the baby for adoption, fine. Pragmatically the baby does not have the cognative abilities to have a choice in the matter, as it does not have the knowledge, experience, or abiltiy to have a choice.

[catluver]

OP, did you really expect to get a serious answer to your question HERE? Go to your nearest Planned Parenthood.

[Shadow_Watcher]

OP, did you really expect to get a serious answer to your question HERE? Go to your nearest Planned Parenthood.

FTW!!!

The mods shoud lock the post with catluver as the winner!

[gonepostl]

So my friends attempted cry for help is a competition to bash him in his time of need?


It's not my girlfriend.
Gonepostl is in fact a virgin at the age of 22. I have been waiting til marriage. I made this thread on my good friends behalf because I thought I could get some good answers for him (through 3rd person). It wouldn't stop at my friends either. Any desperate cry for help I would gladly answer whether my moral fibers forbid me or not because that's the humane thing to do. However, the yelling the cursing was coming from me. I suspect it's because I haven't seen people so deeply disappoint me in such a very long time.

Indeed this thread is very very sad

[catluver]

So my friends attempted cry for help is a competition to bash him in his time of need?


It's not my girlfriend.
Gonepostl is in fact a virgin at the age of 22. I have been waiting til marriage. I made this thread on my good friends behalf because I thought I could get some good answers for him (through 3rd person). It wouldn't stop at my friends either. Any desperate cry for help I would gladly answer whether my moral fibers forbid me or not because that's the humane thing to do. However, the yelling the cursing was coming from me. I suspect it's because I haven't seen people so deeply disappoint me in such a very long time.

Indeed this thread is very very sad

Yes, if you have been on this site for any length of time, you should know that you don't come here for serious discussion on matters such as yours. Sad, but true.

[Kristin]

FTW!!!

The mods shoud lock the post with catluver as the winner!

You're a crazy post changer!

This post originally said "WTF???"

Changing posts is totally lame. :rolleyes:

[Timmmmy]

I'm not ready to be a father she's not ready to be a mother. Maybe we have a future who knows but we're just kids right now and I hope you can respect that.

So my friends attempted cry for help is a competition to bash him in his time of need?

...

It's not my girlfriend.
I made this thread on my good friends behalf because I thought I could get some good answers for him (through 3rd person).

So let me get this straight...in one post it is you and your girlfriend who had sex but in the last post it wasn't you? :confused: I think somebody is a liar! :nod:

Indeed this thread is very very sad
As is an OP who has to lie in a thread! :nod:

[120 Minute Man]

[SIZE="3"]Anyway thanks for all the great responses. I'm not ready to be a father she's not ready to be a mother. Maybe we have a future who knows but we're just kids right now and I hope you can respect that.


There is a fool proof way to make sure you won't have any kids...

edit... my comments may or may not apply now reading the last few posts... but they still apply to "your friend"

[KnowledgeMania]

For some reason, there's people who cares about an unborn child more than the children that are already here.

[rooobosmith]

For some reason, there's people who cares about an unborn child more than the children that are already here.

Right wing extremists: "LIfe begins at conception and ends at birth."

[Timmmmy]

Right wing extremists: "LIfe begins at conception and ends at birth."

Unless you are driving in an HOV lane. It is funny how life can begin prior to birth (when abortion is the topic) but not while driving in the HOV lane.

[JackHandey]

I think it should be based neurologically. If that group of cells can feel pain, and subsequently suffer as a result of it, then it should be too late for an abortion.

[LivninSC]

birth –noun
1. an act or instance of being born: the day of his birth.
2. the act or process of bearing or bringing forth offspring; childbirth; parturition: a difficult birth.
3. lineage; extraction; descent: of Grecian birth.
4. high or noble lineage: to be foolishly vain about one's birth.
5. natural heritage: a musician by birth.
6. any coming into existence; origin; beginning: the birth of Protestantism; the birth of an idea.

Dictionary says, life begins at birth. Can't really have a life if you don't exist. Don't like it fine change the dictionary but until then that's the way it is :)

[LivninSC]

So let me get this straight...in one post it is you and your girlfriend who had sex but in the last post it wasn't you? :confused: I think somebody is a liar! :nod:

Where's Henry Rollins when you need him.

Ahh here he is VIDEO Link (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=653150686637651161)

[Shadow_Watcher]

You're a crazy post changer!

This post originally said "WTF???"

Changing posts is totally lame. :rolleyes:

I originally said WTF!!! by accident instead of FTW!!! while I was at work for the 35th hour.

[Parafly9]

Since this is now a debate, it is Podium Time.
At what point does life begin?


I'm re-uping this and if you have a problem talk to me man to man.
Op's you have a lot of nerve. I'm disgusted with this. Locking a thread and leaving a reason is one thing. That's a whole lot better then completely deleting it when a guy really could use some help.

Anyway thanks for all the great responses. I'm not ready to be a father she's not ready to be a mother. Maybe we have a future who knows but we're just kids right now and I hope you can respect that.

Like I said my mom took a birth control pill and here I am today! How efficient are these things? Anybody have any insight? Whats the earliest she can take a pregnancy test


Adoption.....

[Parafly9]

birth –noun
1. an act or instance of being born: the day of his birth.
2. the act or process of bearing or bringing forth offspring; childbirth; parturition: a difficult birth.
3. lineage; extraction; descent: of Grecian birth.
4. high or noble lineage: to be foolishly vain about one's birth.
5. natural heritage: a musician by birth.
6. any coming into existence; origin; beginning: the birth of Protestantism; the birth of an idea.

Dictionary says, life begins at birth. Can't really have a life if you don't exist. Don't like it fine change the dictionary but until then that's the way it is :)

Umm, as a quick FYI --> You didn't get the definition of the word "Life", you go the definition of the word, "Birth"

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?life
1 a : the quality that distinguishes a vital and functional being from a dead body b : a principle or force that is considered to underlie the distinctive quality of animate beings c : an organismic state characterized by capacity for metabolism, growth, reaction to stimuli, and reproduction
2 a : the sequence of physical and mental experiences that make up the existence of an individual b : one or more aspects of the process of living <sex life of the frog>
3 : BIOGRAPHY 1
4 : spiritual existence transcending physical death
5 a : the period from birth to death b : a specific phase of earthly existence <adult life> c : the period from an event until death <a judge appointed for life> d : a sentence of imprisonment for the remainder of a convict's life
6 : a way or manner of living
7 : LIVELIHOOD
8 : a vital or living being; specifically : PERSON <many lives were lost in the disaster>
9 : an animating and shaping force or principle
10 : SPIRIT, ANIMATION <saw no life in her dancing>
11 : the form or pattern of something existing in reality <painted from life>
12 : the period of duration, usefulness, or popularity of something <the expected life of the batteries>
13 : the period of existence (as of a subatomic particle) -- compare HALF-LIFE
14 : a property (as resilience or elasticity) of an inanimate substance or object resembling the animate quality of a living being
15 : living beings (as of a particular kind or environment) <forest life>
16 a : human activities b : animate activity and movement <stirrings of life> c : the activities of a given sphere, area, or time <the political life of the country>
17 : one providing interest and vigor <life of the party>
18 : an opportunity for continued viability <gave the patient a new life>
19 capitalized, Christian Science : GOD 1b
20 : something resembling animate life <a grant saved the project's life>


As you can see the dictionary is as vague as anywhere else about it.

Yes, if you have been on this site for any length of time, you should know that you don't come here for serious discussion on matters such as yours. Sad, but true.

What do you think PP is going to suggest? They are going to tell you get an abortion.

PP has some decent purposes.

but it's called Planned Parenthood for a reason. It hsould probably be called, "Unplanned Parenthood"

[riptide_slick]

What do you think PP is going to suggest? They are going to tell you get an abortion. Got any evidence for that?

[gonepostl]

Btw, my friend had a baby now
IT'S A BOY!!!!

[quazywong]

what exactly happened?

[bonkman]

congrats to your friend!

[CGriswald309B]

I guess your friend didn't spend the $35 on the morning after pill. Oh well, a child should only cost him about $250,000...not that much of a difference.

Be sure to tell your friend good luck cause I expect he's gonna need it! :D

[The_Linux_Crew]

Sperm should be protected under the constitution. After all, God killed people who spilled their seed on the ground (Genesis 38: 7-10).

I am surprised that Glenn Beck hasn't made this an election issue.

I wonder what that great sage, Sarah Palin, has to say. or that great intellectual Joe to Plumber.