HDTV Deals & Black Friday

[andy123h]

OK, I know this sort of discussion comes up every year. My wife has finally given the OK for a decent flat-panel for the living room. I bought a 37" LCD a couple of years ago for the Soccer World Cup and experienced the, umm, "joy" of seeing the exact same model for 1/2 price on Black Friday. Admittedly that was several months later, but still...

...Anyway. I'm wondering what sort of deal will be on offer for around $1000 (can't afford much more, really). Although I'd wanted a plasma for the longest time due to the deep blacks, LCDs have been impressing me recently. I saw a Samsung 4081 deal (at CC?) for ~$1,200 a while back (having seen the LED backlight models in-store a few months previous and thought a) they're incredible, and b) how many years will it be before I could afford that technology?) and the LG 42" 1080p for ~$1000, while the Samsung 4069FX can be had for $1,100. Meanwhile, the Panasonic 46PZ80U is available for ~$1,200 so plasmas are still alive and kicking. I guess LCDs have improved so much in the last couple of years that they are no longer the poor relation to plasma. (As an aside, I do wonder why there isn't more visual disparity between plasma & LCD side-by-side in the store when they're supposedly ~1200 nits & ~500 nits respectively...)

Obviously there is something going on in the market at the moment to provoke these price falls. It may well be "just" a glut of panels. Might there also be some technology advance that'll make us wish we'd all held off? So I'm wondering if the good times will last and will Black Friday serve up some mega-deals. I don't know that I'm looking for advice per se, just interested in other folks' thoughts on where it's all heading over the next couple of months. Doubtless many folks (especially us noobs) will be interested in your collective wisdom, not least as the end of November is starting to loom...

[wikipost]

Please Post Model Numbers Where Listed In the Ad
Check out Conns for Tv's >>> --> Thread posted in BF. Section about it (http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?sduid=258374&t=1043105)

Lets start a list....

32'' and under - 720p
18.5'' - $199.99Element 720p LCD HDTV Circuity City
19'' - $249.99* AOC LCD - Radioshack (http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3230453)
19" - $179 Toshiba LCD from Fry's Electronics Thursday Ad.
22'' - $289.99 Sylvania LCD TV BJ's
23" - $279.99 Samsung LCD from Thursday's Office Depot ad.
23" - $299.99 Samsung LCD HDTV from newly released Office Max ad.
26" - $299.99 Westinghouse LCD HDTV from newly released Target ad.
26'' - $399.99 Sharp LCD - Sears (http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_05771108000P)
26'' - $399.99 Proscan 720p LCD HDTV w/built in DVD Player Circuit City
32" - $388.00 Emerson LCD - Walmart (http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=9107635)
32'' - $399.99* AOC LCD - Radioshack (http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3247553)
32" - $399.99 Element LCD from newly released Kmart ad.
32" - $449.99 Toshiba LCD 32AV500U @ circuitcity FRIDAY ONLY
32'' - $499.99 Proscan LCD - Sears (http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_05771278000P)
32" - $499.99 Samsung LCD - Sears (http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_05771038000P)
32" - $499.99 Samsung LN32A300 LCD HDTV BJ's

32'' and under 1080p
32" - $399.99 Sceptre 32" HDTV 1080P $399 (model X32BV) Microcenter (http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0290965) B&M only 11/22 and 11/23, and 11/28 with 20 per store

Larger than 32" 720p
42" - $499.99 1080i GFM Plasma HGTV - Meijer
42'' - $749.99 720p Samsung Plasma - BB (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8749376&type=product&id=1202650190227)
42'' - $699.99 Samsung 720p Plasma HDTV Circuit City
50" - $798.00 720p Samsung Plasma - Walmart
50" - $899.99 720p Panasonic Viera 50" BB
50" - $799.99 720p Panasonic Viera 50px80u 50" Boscov's (Doorbuster, listed on their web site under "This Week's Ads")


Larger than 32" 1080p
37" - $599.99 Sylvania LC370559 LCD HDTV BJ's (not sure if it is a 1080p)
40'' - $799.99* 1080p Samsung LN40A500 LCD - Sears (http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_05771014000P) (the deal may refer to a newer model 40" 1080p Samsung, so this link may be incorrect)
40" - $799.99 1080p Sony Bravia S LCD - Micro Center (http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0288756) (15 per store)
42'' - $699.99 1080p Sylvania LCD - Sears (http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_05771246000P)
42'' - $699.99 1080p LG LCD 42LG50 - FireFold (http://www.urlhasbeenblocked/Advertise/11-28-08-blackfriday/FFblackfriday112808.html)
42" - $779.00 1080p Sharp LCD - Dell (http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?sduid=70660&t=1004395)
42" - $898.00 1080p Philips LCD - Sams Club (http://www.samsclub.com/shopping/navigate.do?dest=5&item=393519&pCatg=9666)
42'' - $999.99* 1080p Panasonic Plasma - Sears (http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_05775538000P)
46'' - $899.99 1080p Sharp LC46SB54U LCD - Sears (http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_05771148000P)
46'' - $1099.99* 1080p Samsung LN46A500 LCD - Sears (http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_05771054000P) (this seems to be a dead deal)
46'' - $1099.99 1080p Samsung LCD HDTV Circuit City
46'' - $1099.99 1080p Samsung LN46A500 LCD HDTV BJ's
46" - $1099.99 1080p Sony Bravia S LCD - Micro Center (http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0288764) (5 per store)
46" - $799.99 1080p Sceptre X46BV LCD - Micro Center (http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0301718) (20 per store)
52'' - $2099.99 1080p Sony Bravia LCD - Sears (http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_05771673000P)
52'' - $1299 1080p Sharp Aquos LC52D64U LCD - AAFES (http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?sduid=120950&t=992233)(military only)
52'' - $1384 Sharp Aquos 52" Widescreen LCD HDTV Sams Club
52'' - $1399.99 1080p Sharp AQUOS LCD HDTV BJ's
52'' - $1499.99 1080p Sharp AQUOS LCD HDTV Circuit City
52" - $1499.99 Samsung 1080p LN52A580 Best Buy Samsung 1080p LN52A580

Larger than 59" 1080p
67'' - $1878.04 Samsung - 67" 1080p Slim-Depth LED Engine DLP HDTV Model: HL67A750 Amazon.com (http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-HL67A750-67-Inch-1080p-Powered/dp/B001413DWQ/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1226276509&sr=8-1#) [COLOR="Red"]

-mrkiki911
-albo23
-krasher134
-kevperz
-isis1414

My thread was deleted, but here is the list I spent 2 hours doing....
Alphabetical order-
* Represents a door buster deal

Best Buy
Dynex 19" 720P LCD HDTV - $199.99
Sharp 22" 720P LCD HDTV With Built-in DVD Player - $349.99
Dynex 32" 720p LCD HDTV - $399.99
Samsung 720P LCD HDTV - $499.99
Dynex 42" 720P Plasma HDTV - $599.99
LG 32" 1080P LCD HDTV Includes Geek Squad TV & Video Setup - $699.98
Samsung 42" 720p Plasma HDTV - $699.99
Samsung 40" 1080P LCD HDTV - $799.99
Panasonic Viera 50" 720p Plasma HDTV - $899.99 *
Mitsubishi 60" 1080P DLP HDTV - $999.99
Insignia 47" 1080P LCD HDTV - $999.99
Samsung 46" 1080P LCD HDTV - $1099.99
LG 42" 1080P 120Hz LCD HDTV - $1299.98
LG 47" 1080P 120Hz LCD HDTV - $1499.98
Samsung 52" 1080p LN52A580 - 1499.99


Circuit City
Element 18.5" Widescreen LCD HDTV (Model # FLX18511B) - $199.99 *
Sens 22" Widescreen 720p LCD HDTV/DVD Player Combo(Model S2201DVD)- $299.99
Proscan 26" 720p LCD HDTV With Built In DVD Player - $399.99
Toshiba 32" Widescreen LCD HDTV (Model # 32AV500U) - $449.99 *
Element 37" Widescreen LCD HDTV (Model # FLX3711B) - $499.99
Samsung 32" Widescreen 720p LCD HDTV (Model # LN32A300) - $499.99
Samsung 42" Widescreen 720p Plasma HDTV (Model # PN42A400) - $699.99 *
Samsung 50" Widescreen Plasma HDTV (Model # PN50A400) - $899.99
Panasonic 42" Widescreen 1080p LCD HDTV (Model # TH42PZ80U) - $899.99
Sony 40" Widescreen 1080p LCD HDTV (Model # KDL40S4100) - $899.99
Samsung 46" Widescreen 1080p LCD HDTV (Model # LN46A500) - $1,099.99 *
Mitsubishi 65" Home Theater 1080p DLP HDTV (Model # WD65735) - $1,199.99
Sony 40" 1080p LCD HDTV & Sony Blu-Ray Player Bundle (Model # KDL40V4100 and BDPS350) - $1,199.98
Sony 46" 1080p LCD HDTV & Sony Blu-ray Player Bundle (Model # KDL46V4100 and BDPS350) - $1,499.98
Sharp 52" 1080p LCD HDTV (Model # LC52SB55U) - $1,499.99


Costco
Vizio 37" 720p LCD HDTV - $100 Off
Sharp 42" 1080p LCD HDTV - $200 Off
Sharp Aquos 52" 1080p LCD HDTV - $300 Off
Sharp Aquos 65" 1080p LCD HDTV - $300 Off
Skyline Tuscany TV Stand - $159.99
Sharp 32" 720p HDTV LCD - $499.99




Dell Home
Sharp 42" 1080p LCD HDTV - $779.00

Kmart
Sylvania 20" LCD TV - $199.99 *
Element 26" LCD HDTV (Saturday Only) - $299.99 *
Sony Bravia L Series 32" HDTV - $599.99


Meijer
Sylvania 22" LCD HDTV - $249.99 *
Sylania 32" LCD HDTV (Thursday Only) - $379.99
GFM 42" Plasma HDTV - $499.99 *
Sylvania 37" LCD HDTV(Saturday Only) - $499.99

Micro Center Full Ad (http://www.microcenter.com/specials/catalogs/after_thanksgiving.html?BrCs=498&BrCg=16183098&BrRc=1467217993)
Samsung 32" 720p LCD - $499.99 (10 per store, model/spec unknown as SKU not valid yet)
Sceptre X32BV 32" 1080p LCD - $399.99 after $60 MIR (20 per store)
Sceptre X46BV 46" 1080p LCD - $799.99 after $60 MIR (20 per store)
Sony Bravia S 40" 1080p LCD - $799.99 (15 per store)
Sony Bravia S 46" 1080p LCD - $1099.99 (5 per store)

Office Depot
Samsung 23" LCD HDTV Model 2333HD - $279.99
Element 32" LCD HDTV Model ELCP0321 - $399.99


Office Max
Samsung 23" HDTV/Monitor - $299.99

Sears
Samsung 19" LCD HDTV - $299.99 *
Vizio 26" LCD HDTV - $379.99
Sharp 26" LCD HDTV - $399.99 *
Proscan 32" LCD HDTV - $499.99 *
Samsung 32" LN32A300 LCD HDTV - $499.99
Element 37" LCD HDTV - $599.99
Panasonic 42" 720P Plasma HDTV - $699.99 *
Sylvania 42" 1080P LCD HDTV - $699.99 *
Vizio 37" 1080p Full HD LCD TV - $699.99
Panasonic 37" Full HD LCD TV - $749.99
Samsung 40" 1080P LCD HDTV - $799.99 *
Toshiba 40" 1080p 40RV525U LCD HDTV - $849.99
Samsung 50" 720p PN50A400 Plasma HDTV - $899.99
Sharp 46" Full HD 1080P LCD HDTV - $899.99 *
Sony Bravia S-Series 40" 1080p LCD HDTV - $999.99
Vizio 42 in. XVT Series 1080p LCD HDTV - $999.99
Samsung 46" 1080P LCD HDTV - $1099.99 *
Sony Bravia V-Series 40" 1080p LCD HDTV - $1099.99
Samsung 46" 1080p LN46A530 LCD HDTV - $1199.99
Sony Bravia S-Series 46" 1080p LCD HDTV - $1299.99
Sony Bravia V-Series 52" 1080p LCD HDTV - $1799.99
Sony Bravia W Series 52" 1080P LCD HDTV - $1999.99 *
Samsung 52" 1080p 120Hz LN52A650 LCD HDTV - $2099.99


Target
Audiovox 12" Kitchen LCD HDTV with DVD Player - $249.99
Westinghouse 26" Widescreen LCD HDTV - $299.00

Walmart
Sansui 19'' 720p LCD HDTV $178.00
Emerson 32in. 720p LCD HDTV - $388.00*
Samsung 32in LCD HDTV- $498.00
Polaroid 42in. 1080p LCD HDTV - $589.00*
Samsung 42in 720p Plasma HDTV- $698.00
Samsung 42in 1080p LCD HDTV- 798
Samsung 50 in. 720p Plasma HDTV - $798.00*
Samsung 46in 1080p LCD HDTV- $1098.00

Ultimate Electronics
JVC 47in. 1080p LCD HDTV $999.99 JVCLT47X579
Sony 46" 1080p LCD HDTV $1499.99 SONKDL46W4100
Samsung 32" 720p LCD HDTV $499.99 SAMLN32A300
Samsung 32" 720p LCD HDTV $594.94 SAMLN32A300
Samsung 42" 720p Plasma HDTV $699.99 SAMPN42A400
Samsung 42" 720p Plasma HDTV $794.94 SAMPN42A450
Samsung 40" 1080p LCD HDTV $799.99 SAMLN40A500
Sony 40" 1080p LCD HDTV $994.99 KDL-40S4100
Samsung 46" 1080p LCD HDTV $1,099.99 SAMLN46A500
Samsung 46" 1080p LCD HDTV $1,299.99 SAMLN46A550
Mitsubishi 60" 1080p DLP HDTV $999.99 MITWD60735
Mitsubishi 65" 1080p DLP HDTV $1,499.99 MITWD60736 (Higher end model than CC's deal.)

If i missed any please let me know and I will try to get them up.
Ill have them in order by price later tonight.
Enjoy - mrkiki911

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[grrranamal]

I heard a report on the radio the other day about the overproduction of televisions. I imagine the nature of our lovely economy at the moment had a lot to do with it (imho). But, they said it hasn't trickled down yet to the consumer but I am wondering if prices will take an even bigger dip in the next few months due to the saturation.

Crossing my fingers for that sony 46" that I saw at frys this weekend will drop to a $1000 ; > Here's hoping.... just my 2 cents!

[dabayrz]

Flat-panel TV prices set to dive, analysts say
By Peter Svensson, Associated Press
NEW YORK — A combination of weak consumer spending and a peak in manufacturing capacity will push prices for flat-panel TVs down to unprecedented lows this holiday season, according to analysts.
David Barnes, analyst at NPD's DisplaySearch unit, said prices look set to decrease rapidly starting on "Black Friday," the day after Thanksgiving, and lasting through next year.

It's even possible that 32-inch LCD TV sets, which now usually cost $600 to $700, will go as low as $350 in stores. That's a significant level: It's close to the long-run average price for a TV in the U.S., Barnes said Tuesday.

He believes these smaller sets will be the big sellers this year, as consumers, and possibly also credit-card companies that had fueled big-ticket spending, tighten their belts.

"We're about at the point where the 32-inch set will be the commodity," Barnes said Tuesday.

FIND MORE STORIES IN: Thanksgiving | TVs | Barnes | DisplaySearch
Larger 40- or 42-inch sets are already dipping below the $1,000 level, another important psychological barrier.

Barnes' colleague Paul Gagnon said the industry is coming out of a period of rather tight supplies of LCD panels, but more factories are now coming on line.

One factor that could boost sales is the impending shutdown of the analog TV broadcasting network in February, which means that older TVs that receive TV over the air will need a converter box. That will drive people to the stores to figure out their options, Gagnon pointed out. New TVs can receive the digital signals that are replacing analog.

But it's still not certain that abundant and cheap flat panels will lure consumers who have seen their home values and 401(k) funds decline.

"There's a lot of conflicting pressure on the consumer," Gagnon said. "It will be interesting to see which factor wins out this holiday season."

Copyright 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

[lalakersfan88]

i hope there are really cheap sharp aquos somewhere

[bronxbombas]

i just really want a good price on a 19-27 inch. those models are still way too expensive. still floating around $300.

[Whatatay]

Wish they made a 46 in wide screen CRT TV. My Panasoinic CRT is over 10 years old and works as good as the day I got it. I also have a Hitachi that is 27 years old and it works perfectly.

Don't kid yourself. LCD and Plasma TVs are still in the experimental stages. Not many people who have one can say it still works after it's two years old.

[aakshay]

Wish they made a 46 in wide screen CRT TV. My Panasoinic CRT is over 10 years old and works as good as the day I got it. I also have a Hitachi that is 27 years old and it works perfectly.

Don't kid yourself. LCD and Plasma TVs are still in the experimental stages. Not many people who have one can say it still works after it's two years old.

what are you smoking?
Have fun finding 4 guys to carry your 46 inch CRT btw.

[YourOnlineHero]

what are you smoking?
Have fun finding 4 guys to carry your 46 inch CRT btw.

truth, I'm also assuming mp3 players are in the experimental stage as well and your cd player/walkman still work perfectly. :rolleyes:

I just got a new plasma tv about a week ago and have to say its a much better picture than the two lcds I had before. Expect huge pricedrops this black friday, we will know the pricing when the first official black friday hdtv price is known.

[kny3twalker]

Wish they made a 46 in wide screen CRT TV. My Panasoinic CRT is over 10 years old and works as good as the day I got it. I also have a Hitachi that is 27 years old and it works perfectly.

Don't kid yourself. LCD and Plasma TVs are still in the experimental stages. Not many people who have one can say it still works after it's two years old.

sony had a 40" 4:3 aspect ratio HDTV and a few companies had 38" widescreen, the problem with going bigger was the limited mostly by the CRT gun and the weight. These TVs pushed the limits of CRTs, and sony suffered issues with magnetic interference and geometry problems. Do not get me wrong though one of these working perfectly blows away every flat panel in picture quality and depth. The kuro by pioneer was the closest TV produced to match the image quality of CRTs

the Sony 40" weight was 300 or more pounds by the way

if you really like the image quality of CRTs stay away from LCDs, buy a plasma like a kuro or a samsung if budget is an issue.

[calc]

CRT's still exist !? I would of thought productions on such ancient devices ceased. I still see them around sometimes as poor mans version for photo editing gurus. Other than that it's an obsolete design.

[fatLUNCH]

Wish they made a 46 in wide screen CRT TV. My Panasoinic CRT is over 10 years old and works as good as the day I got it. I also have a Hitachi that is 27 years old and it works perfectly.

Don't kid yourself. LCD and Plasma TVs are still in the experimental stages. Not many people who have one can say it still works after it's two years old.

Really? Who are YOU trying to kid?

IMO you must be an old man/woman born in the 1940's to still believe this.

Im at such a loss on how to respond to this. Maybe you should do some reading on consumer reports or something before you say something as bold as this.

How is your ice box doing? Or have you upgraded to new technology like an invention called the refrigerator... lol WHich have LCD's in them!

hahahah man.. :bulb: :bulb: :bulb:

[DigitalNRG]

Wish they made a 46 in wide screen CRT TV. My Panasoinic CRT is over 10 years old and works as good as the day I got it. I also have a Hitachi that is 27 years old and it works perfectly.

Don't kid yourself. LCD and Plasma TVs are still in the experimental stages. Not many people who have one can say it still works after it's two years old.

Ok, drop the bong and nobody get hurt! :bounce: :bounce:

[houstonmat]

The next "feature" that will drive price drops will be the refresh rate. Some of the more expensive high-end ones are at 120Hz now versus the usual 60Hz. It makes a big difference.

[flee]

Im hearing 37" tv's for $350 and 42" tv's for $600 or less.

[lesliepear]

I'm wondering what the prices will be for the 32" inch ones. We need a 32 inch to replace our dying 27" CRT TV in the living room (space constraints do not permit a bigger screen). Oddly enough when that was new in the early 90's - it cost over 600.00!

[placebo1]

LN52A650 for under $1500 PLEASE!!!!!!!

[stegen]

Im thinking this will be a black friday to remember. with the crappy econ and no one wanting to spend money, they are gonna have to pull out HUGE deals to get people in the stores.

[DOA75]

I've seen some 1080p good brands (Sony, Panasonic, Samsung, Sharp) go for $1000 on the 40" and 42" versions, you'll probably see the 46" for $1000 this BF, but probably not the 120Hz.

[pigeo000]

i think the big ones will be the 42 inch panasonic 720p plasma as well as the samsung one and i think the price will be 599 and the 50 inch for 799 thats my guess

[sum1]

Wish they made a 46 in wide screen CRT TV. My Panasoinic CRT is over 10 years old and works as good as the day I got it. I also have a Hitachi that is 27 years old and it works perfectly.

Don't kid yourself. LCD and Plasma TVs are still in the experimental stages. Not many people who have one can say it still works after it's two years old.

yeah--don't kid yourself...my black friday olevia from 3 years ago is still trucking away. so is my mother in law's 2 year old kuros and 4 year old olevia. oh--forgot to mention my parent's six year old samsung. you're right...these things are crap. :hug:

[Jonbo298]

Im thinking this will be a black friday to remember. with the crappy econ and no one wanting to spend money, they are gonna have to pull out HUGE deals to get people in the stores.

I've been slowly saving up for one great somewhat big ticket deal because of what is likely to occur this year. Rather "slowly" save up and not screw up my budget when the time comes.

[0100]

I still rock my twin 21" crt monitors, because they pretty much wipe the floor with every lcd monitor.

I do hate the weight and size though. I can't wait for a 52" lcd to have the same picture quality as a top notch crt monitor.

[fatLUNCH]

I do hate the weight and size though. I can't wait for a 52" lcd to have the same picture quality as a top notch crt monitor.

i cant believe you just said that... EVERY CRT monitor i look at gives my headaches. I have yet to see one that doesnt.

I have a 52" samsung LCD that is > any CRT i have see. Unless your CRT has some magical powers that i dont know of.. i highly doubt that any CRT is better then most of the 52" LCD's out there.. ;)

[dsh101]

i cant believe you just said that... EVERY CRT monitor i look at gives my headaches. I have yet to see one that doesnt.

I have a 52" samsung LCD that is > any CRT i have see. Unless your CRT has some magical powers that i dont know of.. i highly doubt that any CRT is better then most of the 52" LCD's out there.. ;)
Obviously it's subjective. Most people agree CRTs have better color depth and clarity, as well as universally faster response times. LCD tvs are easier on the eyes (meaning physically cause less strain) and are aesthetically more pleasing than their behemoth cathode tube brethren. There's still a market out there for high end CRT's, and there's a reason for that.

How is your ice box doing? Or have you upgraded to new technology like an invention called the refrigerator... lol WHich have LCD's in them!
Hey, my refrigerator doesn't have an LCD in it =/

[fatLUNCH]

Obviously it's subjective
OK ill give you subjective.. but i personally would like to meet someone who would rather use a CRT over a larger LCD.. I sold tv's for a few yrs and EVERYONE told me they hated their old CRT's.


Hey, my refrigerator doesn't have an LCD in it =/
doah neither does mine.. but im not rich yet.. i was simply making a point to upgrade to new technology!

:threadj: sorry... ill quit!

[PR0SP3R]

I'm wondering what the prices will be for the 32" inch ones. We need a 32 inch to replace our dying 27" CRT TV in the living room (space constraints do not permit a bigger screen). Oddly enough when that was new in the early 90's - it cost over 600.00!
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/products/2008-10-15-tv_N.htm

[ScottSFA]

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/products/2008-10-15-tv_N.htm
Hope this is true...I'd love to try to get ahold of the new Vizio's 42 or 47" for around 800-900 or so.

[Vanishingact]

OK, I know this sort of discussion comes up every year. My wife has finally given the OK for a decent flat-panel for the living room. I bought a 37" LCD a couple of years ago for the Soccer World Cup and experienced the, umm, "joy" of seeing the exact same model for 1/2 price on Black Friday. Admittedly that was several months later, but still...


Obviously there is something going on in the market at the moment to provoke these price falls. It may well be "just" a glut of panels..

Yes, it has been reported that there is a glut of panels. Now mix in the state of the current U.S. economy going down the crapper thanks to greedy stock executives, and you have one heck of a compelling incentive for CE mannys & retailers to drop their prices or 'eat' the goods they've been looking to cash in on.


Might there also be some technology advance that'll make us wish we'd all held off? So I'm wondering if the good times will last and will Black Friday serve up some mega-deals.

Yes, there is some new technology coming (and I'm not talking 120 hz) that could make you wish you held off, but it will not be inexpensive, nor will the screen size be enormous at first. So it might be best to buy what's currently available with a good reputation (Sony, Samsung, etc.) at a decent discounted price, than jumping into.the latest high-end technology.

[jmac2043]

I wonder if a Samsung LN46A850 @ around $1000 is within the realm of possibilities...

[Swift562]

I wonder if a Samsung LN46A850 @ around $1000 is within the realm of possibilities...

The 46A850 for $1500 is more probable. At $1000 is beyond unbelievable.

[vincewchan]

Think the Vizio 42" 1080p would drop to $600??

[jspicoli]

I bet DirecTV is loving this.

I keep adding additional receivers (+$5 each a month) because I keep buying more flat panels. Up to 5 now.

[percept]

Wish they made a 46 in wide screen CRT TV. My Panasoinic CRT is over 10 years old and works as good as the day I got it. I also have a Hitachi that is 27 years old and it works perfectly.

Don't kid yourself. LCD and Plasma TVs are still in the experimental stages. Not many people who have one can say it still works after it's two years old.

what brand of glue do you sniff? im curious how your brain came up with this wacky "fact".

[Sunderware]

OK ill give you subjective.. but i personally would like to meet someone who would rather use a CRT over a larger LCD.. I sold tv's for a few yrs and EVERYONE told me they hated their old CRT's.

I prefer my 36-inch CRT to Plasma/LCD. The main driver behind that is Guitar Hero. I have tried for HOURS to get the screen to match properly to the music... but it's still just a bit off...

My CRT on the other hand is teh AWESOME.


And also, I know I'm going to end up switching to an LCD away from my 21-inch CRT for my computer to get some desk real estate back... but I LOVE my CRT. The refresh rate is un-beatable.

[Tinkleondabeach]

Yeah, I'm planning on shopping for HDTV's this BF, and evading the current HDTV deals. Hopefully they do get as cheap as they say they will, maybe even cheaper.

On a side note, do you guys think a 32 or 42" HDTV boxed would fit in a 2000 Toyota Celica GT Coupe? I don't know how I can get a truck down there.

[skudzu]

Yeah, I'm planning on shopping for HDTV's this BF, and evading the current HDTV deals. Hopefully they do get as cheap as they say they will, maybe even cheaper.

On a side note, do you guys think a 32 or 42" HDTV boxed would fit in a 2000 Toyota Celica GT Coupe? I don't know how I can get a truck down there.

depends on what color it is.

[warezdog]

This is for eyes only and comes from a solid source:
50-55'' 1080p will go sub 1200 depending on brand.
Word on the street says Philips outlet will dump their 50 refurbs (still 1080p) for $899 with possibly free delivery a week before BF.
The other big 3, being Sony, Samsung, and Panasonic will all have 50's 52's and the big double nickel 55's for $999-$1199 so don't buy one now, all the 720p's are dropping like rocks now in preperation of whats to come.

[siulam]

:woot: LN52A650 for under $1500 PLEASE!!!!!!!

it was 16xx at Fry's last couple weeks...

I've seen some 1080p good brands (Sony, Panasonic, Samsung, Sharp) go for $1000 on the 40" and 42" versions, you'll probably see the 46" for $1000 this BF, but probably not the 120Hz.

46" samsung 550 for 1099 shipped from Fry's

we have to watch for BIG DEAL!
like 40" sony/samsung for 500! 46" for 600!! haha!!

[Genos]

Anyone want to trade their 37" LCD for my 37" CRT? :D

[Tyler1986]

I also heard somewhere that the companies will be lowering the prices on their TV's to draw customers into the stores. In general, not just BF

[Yosemity]

i think the big ones will be the 42 inch panasonic 720p plasma as well as the samsung one and i think the price will be 599 and the 50 inch for 799 thats my guess

Both of those brands have been down to the 699 price point. The paney is only 699 at Costco now and the Samsung was 699 last week at Frys. Just another 100 bucks.

[Yosemity]

This is for eyes only and comes from a solid source:
50-55'' 1080p will go sub 1200 depending on brand.
Word on the street says Philips outlet will dump their 50 refurbs (still 1080p) for $899 with possibly free delivery a week before BF.
The other big 3, being Sony, Samsung, and Panasonic will all have 50's 52's and the big double nickel 55's for $999-$1199 so don't buy one now, all the 720p's are dropping like rocks now in preperation of whats to come.

They might as well drop the 720p anyway... Not much extra cost in manufacturing the 720 vs 1080s.

[raysacr]

My wife has finally given the OK for a decent flat-panel for the living room.

wow, thumbs up for just admitting that. :lmao:

[g35fan]

the Dynex 42" Plasma 720p will be $400 DB @ BB on BF

[CHEAPC]

Wish they made a 46 in wide screen CRT TV. My Panasoinic CRT is over 10 years old and works as good as the day I got it. I also have a Hitachi that is 27 years old and it works perfectly.

Don't kid yourself. LCD and Plasma TVs are still in the experimental stages. Not many people who have one can say it still works after it's two years old.

I can :wave: - its 4 years old :lmao:

[skudzu]

the Dynex 42" Plasma 720p will be $400 DB @ BB on BF

better lay off the bong.

[Machomitch]

When do black friday ads usually start coming in for most places?

[poppy85]

Not sure but since black friday is in 3 weeks you gotta start looking now. I see lots of vendors start there ads posting etc already. Especial on daily steals sites i saw one that seems like its gonna run special deals dailysteals ads for Blackfriday and cyber monday

[aznknife]

http://www.blackfriday.info/scans/officedepot-page3-top.jpg

Some ok deals there. Got Vista Ultimate from uncle last month, returned it at Office Depot for $350 store credit. Going to buy the 26" but hopefully can convince parents to buy 32".

I have $225 on the card left and $100 in my cash. So decent deal! Can't wait!

360/PS3 are going to be on that!

[aznknife]

Sorry for double post!

Got a 52" Samsung 1080P LCD downstairs but gaming on that looks to big! Does anyone agree with me on that? I prefer playing on my shit 19" Dell LCD then my 52" so this 32" hopefully should do the work!

[DieselJunkie]

http://www.blackfriday.info/scans/officedepot-page3-top.jpg

Some ok deals there. Got Vista Ultimate from uncle last month, returned it at Office Depot for $350 store credit. Going to buy the 26" but hopefully can convince parents to buy 32".

I have $225 on the card left and $100 in my cash. So decent deal! Can't wait!

360/PS3 are going to be on that!

I think prices can be better than that. I got a 32" Olevia (http://www.olevia.com/en-us/Products/2Series/232VLCDHDTV.aspx) from Circuit City last year in Aug (Aug 2007) for $399. I'm thinking you will see 32's around the $400 mark not the $500 mark.

Heck, last year Target had the Olevia 37 (http://www.olevia.com/en-us/Products/2Series/237TLCDHDTV.aspx) for $550...online...and many SDer's (including myself) got it for $494 with a 10% coupon and also a free shipping coupon.

If Target did a 37" last year for $550, look for other 720p 37s this year for the same price, or maybe even lower.

This is just my gut though. I figure with the economy, and what things went for last year, that they could be a bit better this year.

[Grenata]

Not sure but since black friday is in 3 weeks you gotta start looking now. I see lots of vendors start there ads posting etc already. Especial on daily steals sites i saw one that seems like its gonna run special deals dailysteals ads for Blackfriday and cyber monday

By 3 weeks you mean 5 weeks, right?

[JonBonBons]

Do you think the LN40A650 will drop below $1000? With that cashback deal, I could get it for about $1150 shipped, but I was planning on waiting it out. I keep reading skepticism in any of the 120hz models dropping for black friday.

[bfizzle]

Do you think the LN40A650 will drop below $1000? With that cashback deal, I could get it for about $1150 shipped, but I was planning on waiting it out. I keep reading skepticism in any of the 120hz models dropping for black friday.

From what I've read most people believe the higher end TVs typically will not be on sale for BF, but if you wait until 2-3 weeks before xmas they will be at their lowest. I'm personally hoping for the LN52A750 to drop under $2000, but only time will tell :)

[Labtec]

From what I've read most people believe the higher end TVs typically will not be on sale for BF, but if you wait until 2-3 weeks before xmas they will be at their lowest. I'm personally hoping for the LN52A750 to drop under $2000, but only time will tell :)

just get it from amazon for $2,148

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-LN52A750-52-Inch-1080p-Touch/dp/B001418WF4

[jwhokie]

I'm hoping that I can get like 52" LCD for about $1,000 or less...need to start looking into this a little more though.

[dieselfrog]

just get it from amazon for $2,148

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-LN52A750-52-Inch-1080p-Touch/dp/B001418WF4

Actually, i just saw it for:


Price: $1,906.78
You Save: $1,093.21 (36%)

@Amazon

[Yuvan]

I have both a 17" CRT and a 24" LCD on my desktop. If only I could get a 24" wide CRT, I'd put my LCD in the kitchen area, and have the CRT monster on my desk any day.

there are trade offs :-/

[firewife2104]

I agree with whoever said the stores are going to have to pull some deals out there behinds to get people out spending money with the economy the way it is. I look forward every year to black friday! We have 3 LCDs in the house and going for the 4th for my sons room. I am hoping to find a deal on a 37 for his room. Good Luck to all on BF!

[MrShickadance9]

I agree with whoever said the stores are going to have to pull some deals out there behinds to get people out spending money with the economy the way it is. I look forward every year to black friday! We have 3 LCDs in the house and going for the 4th for my sons room. I am hoping to find a deal on a 37 for his room. Good Luck to all on BF!

a 37 inch tv for your son's room?...wow. I wish i was your son

[Preventer Wind]

a 37 inch tv for your son's room?...wow. I wish i was your son

You ain't kidding. When I was a kid my mom promised me a TV in my room for my 13th birthday. I've now grown up and gotten a job and I still never got that TV. :lmao:

[acler]

I just thought I'd let you guys know that Best Buy has their Dynex 37" LCD's (720p) on clearance for $475. The original price was $679. It's being advertised for $549 but rings up at only $475. Pretty good price imo.

I also saw 32" Westinghouse LCD's at Costco for $399 today as well.

[themrpark]

CAN someone create a WIKI for this and run down each tv size and give an expected price range for bargain brands AND good brands?

i'm in the market for 37-40" 1080p and i don't know if i should just buy now or buy later AND i don't know how much i should spend.

[ScottSFA]

CAN someone create a WIKI for this and run down each tv size and give an expected price range for bargain brands AND good brands?

i'm in the market for 37-40" 1080p and i don't know if i should just buy now or buy later AND i don't know how much i should spend.
Right now you can get the A650 40" Samsung for 1199 on frys.

[jlothar1]

sony had a 40" 4:3 aspect ratio HDTV and a few companies had 38" widescreen, the problem with going bigger was the limited mostly by the CRT gun and the weight. These TVs pushed the limits of CRTs, and sony suffered issues with magnetic interference and geometry problems. Do not get me wrong though one of these working perfectly blows away every flat panel in picture quality and depth. The kuro by pioneer was the closest TV produced to match the image quality of CRTs

the Sony 40" weight was 300 or more pounds by the way

if you really like the image quality of CRTs stay away from LCDs, buy a plasma like a kuro or a samsung if budget is an issue.


300#.... WHOA!!

[Montusama]

Well I'm not really into HDTV as the whole thing, since most of my media playback I do on the computer, would rather get a larger monitor, at least a 24" (right now have a 20") but would rather get one of those nice 30" monitor's but monitor's don't sell like TV's, so I might consider one if I get enough money, worst that happens is I get approved for a credit card and I make a n00b mistake by spending too much money on it.

[g35fan]

I just thought I'd let you guys know that Best Buy has their Dynex 37" LCD's (720p) on clearance for $475. The original price was $679. It's being advertised for $549 but rings up at only $475. Pretty good price imo.

I also saw 32" Westinghouse LCD's at Costco for $399 today as well.

That $475 plasma is a good deal. The 42" Dynex plasma will be $400 door buster on BF

[scrub0bk]

I just thought I'd let you guys know that Best Buy has their Dynex 37" LCD's (720p) on clearance for $475. The original price was $679. It's being advertised for $549 but rings up at only $475. Pretty good price imo.

I also saw 32" Westinghouse LCD's at Costco for $399 today as well.

is this B&M only? i'd love to get a 37in for $475 if possible

[jeffrey92]

Im in the market for a 50" plasma hdtv for movies and gaming. Does anyone have any idea of what prices i can expect in a month for a 1080p and 720p?

im only 16 so im hoping i can get a 1080p for around $1000 give or take.

[Buckeyefan 1]

Last BF, I picked up a 46" 1080p Aquos for $1150 and Samsung 50" 720p plasma for $850 out the door. This year, I would hope you could get those same sets for $950 and $750 on BF. Both sets have been used extensively, and are still flawless. Both are awesome sets, but plasma still leads as far as picture quality goes.

Keep in mind, these are brand name sets. The Dynex, Insignia, Olevia, and Vizio's should be another few hundo less.

[Iguana775]

That $475 plasma is a good deal. The 42" Dynex plasma will be $400 door buster on BF

is the Dynex decent quality? the local BB had a bunch of them on clearance but didnt really think twice about them. not sure what the price or size of them.

[TonyX]

Nice!
Too bad no eee pcs :[

[deal007]

Just saw this on Gizmodo:

Sears Black Friday Ad Leaks, Full of HDTVs, Digital Cameras, and Other Gadgets: details at:

http://gizmodo.com/5069125/sears-black-friday-ad-leaks-full-of-hdtvs-digital-cameras-and-other-gadgets

[dondeal80]

Just my 2 cents. I have been writing up in some Sony TV threads (Frys) and basically saying why wait until BF? - This Year! I really feel that the economic condition have forced some companies especially Sony and others to dump their 1080 TV stock now. The needed to put sales on their books, raise cash has forced them to sell their bulk sales with huge discounts.
Example, Frys which usually get the late model, surplus and discontinued items was able to get some very good TVs and is selling them at some very great discounts. In turn some other re-sellers have them discounted but not as heavy. PM possible deals abound. Basically if you want an excellent TV model (not a price leader 720 or off-brand), I think you should buy right now if you can get a PM. For instnace the 1080 KDL46V4100 can be PMd for under $1,000. CNBC just put a statment out that this will the the slowest holiday season in sales in at least 10 years!

[breauxdle]

silly question i'm sure but what does PMd mean?

[kimplovely]

PM = price matched

[samven582]

LN52A650 for under $1500 PLEASE!!!!!!!

I really want the LN40A650 under $1000

[platinumtlc]

I'm hoping for a 42 or 37 under 500 bucks!!

[coolcool23]

In order to make this thread REALLY good, further updates to the wiki probably should include data on whether or not the sets ar 1080p or 720p, etc as well as links to where people are getting the prices from.

That would be AWESOME.

[findingdeals]

Or (and this is a crazy idea)-you could look up the model # and check. Nice first post. Complain about what people who are finding you deals are doing wrong...

[bradleyskis]

can you put the model numbers for those tv's in the wiki??

[dbakek]

I'm praying for a good deal on the 50" Samsung DLPs. I've had my eyes on those for a while, and they seem to be stuck at about 1k. Not a bad price, but I know these things can go a little lower before I jump on it.

[dondeal80]

Some added note and correction:

An news article about prices just was posted on the network basically they are selling at below their own cost:

http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/108089

The sony 46 example basically said $1000 - more correct it should be aboug $1200 - Sears is saying that the mail-in urlhasbeenblockedly via sear.com sales and the instant $100 off becomes part of the PM (price match) action/calculation! still about $1200 for the "V" model selling for about $1500- $1800 is a deal if you want a very good set.

[homang]

I'm hoping for a 42 or 37 under 500 bucks!!

me too, i'd love a 37" under $500... hope this can happen

[mrkiki911]

can you put the model numbers for those tv's in the wiki??

In order to make this thread REALLY good, further updates to the wiki probably should include data on whether or not the sets ar 1080p or 720p, etc as well as links to where people are getting the prices from.

That would be AWESOME.

I will keep adding to the list as soon as more ads become available. I found all those sears TVs on their ad (its posted in the SEARS thread). I will try to find the model numbers, I have only been adding 1080p and the htz to the top notch TVs. The ones without "1080p" just expect 720p.

[AK_47]

me too, i'd love a 37" under $500... hope this can happen

me3.. looking for good 37-42 720P for under 500 :bounce:

[DontCountToday]

me too, i'd love a 37" under $500... hope this can happen

im sorry, a year ago this month at Sears I got an Olevia 42" 720p for $650. I can not at all understand why I wouldnt be able to get even a 46" 1080p for under $500 a year later during the biggest sale of the entire year. And lately ive been seeing a lot of 42" $699 deals, which is getting really low.

[PT2See]

i hope there are really cheap sharp aquos somewhere

Be careful with the one you pick. I would only pull the trigger on a 64U model, big difference from the other sharp models and well worth the price difference since the 64U models have been coming down in price.

[dondeal80]

You have to understand what the economy conditions have done out there. There are loads and loads of 720 (x768) HDTVs out there that have not sold. During BF, those will be the ones that are pushed at very big discounts. 1080s will be sold at a discounts, but I do not believe that you will see any further discounts. That is why you can find some read finds especially with PMs available. During BF, some stores (like Sears) will not honor PMs.
The Japanese accounting cycle(?) ending in October forced Sony to sell anything it could - the better 1080 models - at discount and that fact is currently showing up here in the resells of all its electronics. Most TV sales are about 30% down, the other manufactuers (inc Sony) are hurting. But the prices can only go down so much, even under their cost; they were desperate for money. There are only so many price leaders for Black Friday.

The companies re-selling (Best, Circuit, etc) bought TVs for the holidays at certain prices; prices that they cannot go under. Circuit City will not last much past the first of the year- check their stock prices - either will Sears (they already closing stores). Try for the deals now.

[Pyromega]

How closely are Amazon's prices tied to in-store prices? IOW, with the associated price drops in stores, can we expect Amazon's prices to drop quite a bit as well? If so, would it be at about the same time as the in-store price drops? Or would there be a lag? I'm specifically thinking about the 46'' and 52'' models of the Samsung 750 and 850 (and wishfully the 950).

[mmmthats3m]

Black Friday Predictions for LCD & Plasma TVs

* 42" 720p plasma HDTV for $499
* 50" 720p plasma HDTV for $699
* 42" 720p LCD HDTVs for $599
* 46" or 47" brand-name 1080p LCD HDTVs for $799
* 52" 1080p HDTVs for $1,199

Black Friday Predictions for iPods, Macs, and hard drives

* Free shipping no min at Apple Store online
* the newest iPods for 10% off
* iMac and MacBook purchases for 5% to 10% off
* 500GB USB 2.0 external hard drives for $49
* 1TB models for $99

Black Friday Predictions for Laptop and Desktop PCs

* UMPC for $199
* 15" Intel or AMD Dual Core laptop for $299
* well-equipped 15.4" Intel Core 2 Duo laptop for $399
* moderately-equipped PC (dual-core, 250GB HDD, DVD burner) bundled with a 19" LCD for $299
* 22" LCD monitors for $99

Black Friday Predictions for Blu-ray

* Blu-ray player for $149
* Blu-ray player / movie bundle for $199
* Blu-ray movies you actually want for $9.99

Black Friday Predictions for GPSs, Digital Photo Frames, and Digital Cameras

* 7" digital picture frame for $25
* 9" digital picture frame for $49
* Canon PowerShot SD1100 8MP Digital ELPH for $139
* HD camcorder for $99
* entry-level GPS units should hit $49
* widescreen GPS with Bluetooth for $99

[krasher134]

Black Friday Predictions for LCD & Plasma TVs

* 42" 720p plasma HDTV for $499
* 50" 720p plasma HDTV for $699
* 42" 720p LCD HDTVs for $599
* 46" or 47" brand-name 1080p LCD HDTVs for $799
* 52" 1080p HDTVs for $1,199

...

By god, I hope you're right...

[mmmthats3m]

By god, I hope you're right...
Here is more from same article.

We spent a lot of time comparing current price trends on TVs this year with the trends that led up to Black Friday of last year. Our conclusion is, if you've been waiting to upgrade your TV, this holiday season is the time to do it. With the switch to digital broadcasting looming, retailers will be pulling out all of the stops for your HDTV dough. If you're on a budget, consider a plasma display instead of an LCD display — inch for inch, they tend to be cheaper. In fact, we predict a 42" 720p plasma HDTV for as little as $499. A $699 50" plasma HDTV is also quite likely, although we're not expecting huge discounts on larger plasma screens.

LCD prices will remain higher than plasma, but they'll still dip considerably, with generic 42" 720p LCD HDTVs going for $599. Additionally, look for name-brand 46" or 47" 1080p LCD HDTVs to hit $799, and larger 52" 1080p HDTVs to drop to $1,199.

Before you buy a TV on Black Friday, consider this: Last year, the best time to buy a good TV wasn't on Black Friday. It was three weeks before Christmas. At that time, Fry's and Amazon went to war on high-end LCD HDTVs (most notably Samsung 1080p 120Hz LCD TVs from 40" and up), slashing prices again and again. The general rule is, Black Friday is the best time of the year to buy no-name TVs. December is the best time to buy high-end TVs.

[krasher134]

Here is more from same article.

...

Thanks for the addition.

I also went in and updated the Wiki with Sears links. There's a good chance they're not all correct, so go easy if one of them's wrong.

[homang]

Black Friday Predictions for LCD & Plasma TVs

* 42" 720p plasma HDTV for $499


Black Friday Predictions for GPSs, Digital Photo Frames, and Digital Cameras

* HD camcorder for $99

i'd love these... but of course, these are just guesses ... :)

[warezdog]

Being a cheap dutchman I'm holding out for the 50" 1080p Plasma (japanese made) for $999, when that happens I'll snatch one up!

[Nemo23]

Black Friday Predictions for LCD & Plasma TVs

* 42" 720p plasma HDTV for $499
* 50" 720p plasma HDTV for $699
* 42" 720p LCD HDTVs for $599
* 46" or 47" brand-name 1080p LCD HDTVs for $799
* 52" 1080p HDTVs for $1,199



Anyone know how much the 42' 1080p would be?

I also heard that 1080p is useless for a TV under 38' or something. Can anyone confirm this?

[mrkiki911]

thanks for the updating on the wiki everyone!

lets hope to see some lower pricesss!!

[skimaniac3]

I'm specifically thinking about the 46'' and 52'' models of the Samsung 750 and 850 (and wishfully the 950).

I'm hoping for the 46" 650 series for <$1200... that would be sweet. Personally I like the frame of the 650 better than the 750 and the 750 doesn't really have anything over the 650 that I care about (integrated subwoofer? I have a home theater already. The networking stuff? Don't need it.) and the 850 isn't really worth the money unless you REALLY need it to be thin, otherwise its basically the same, feature-wise, as the 650. NOW, the 950 would be REALLY nice, though pretty new tech (LED backlight), I doubt prices will be coming down to reasonable amounts until next year sometime when everybody starts picking it up... right now 120hz is the new big feature.


Here is more from same article.
Fry's and Amazon went to war on high-end LCD HDTVs (most notably Samsung 1080p 120Hz LCD TVs from 40" and up), slashing prices again and again.

ooooo.... I hope you're right!

[jayeskreezy]

why aren't the 37" listed in the wiki?

[Grenata]

I'm hoping for the 46" 650 series for <$1200... that would be sweet. Personally I like the frame of the 650 better than the 750 and the 750 doesn't really have anything over the 650 that I care about (integrated subwoofer? I have a home theater already. The networking stuff? Don't need it.) and the 850 isn't really worth the money unless you REALLY need it to be thin, otherwise its basically the same, feature-wise, as the 650. NOW, the 950 would be REALLY nice, though pretty new tech (LED backlight), I doubt prices will be coming down to reasonable amounts until next year sometime when everybody starts picking it up... right now 120hz is the new big feature.

I agree with you on the comparisons of the 650, 750, and 850. The 46A650 is $1529 today on Amazon, and I ALMOST pulled the trigger on it. I may yet, they offer 2 years no interest and waiting another month for the possibility that it may drop a few hundred isn't all that appealing to me.

[JJLL]

Wish they made a 46 in wide screen CRT TV. My Panasoinic CRT is over 10 years old and works as good as the day I got it. I also have a Hitachi that is 27 years old and it works perfectly.

Don't kid yourself. LCD and Plasma TVs are still in the experimental stages. Not many people who have one can say it still works after it's two years old.

If they had one, it would probably weigh 500 lbs and they would have to stock giant robots at BB just to move these TV sets onto your car, only to crush your car once it's on there :lmao:

[richierich1212]

I missed out on all of the Frys specials. Boooooo.

[sanjeeva7]

Anyone know how much the 42' 1080p would be?

I also heard that 1080p is useless for a TV under 38' or something. Can anyone confirm this?

I've heard anywhere from 45 to 55 or less, there is no difference in side by side comparisons. Go with the 720.

http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6449_7-6810011-1.html

[nuccabay]

what does everyone think of the bigger sets such as a 52"-46". Ive been looking at the Samsung LN52A650 which are around $2000 now. Could I predict about a $300-500 drop on this with some certainty?

[dondeal80]

The Sony business report/ posting in today's newspaper economic section means that Sony has already been selling the smaller TVs (at below cost) at its lowest price already. Any big sales (quanity) and bigger/newer model size to raise big cash. Other Japanese HDTV makers have almost been doing the same. A 52 at 1,999 and top models (1080) - I do not think you will see any cheaper unless you have a coupon. BF usually sells lesser models/smaller models/discountued and expect only 720s (lots of them). So if you are in the market for an excellent brand, 1080 and large >42 then I would be shopping right now looking for the best PM or coupon deal. The dollar/yen rate makes it more expensive for them to sell to us - to make their bottom line/costs. They can only go so much lower. Forced to do production cutbacks (save money) means their costs go up even more, which is what we can expect.

[thefacta]

I skimmed through the thread so don't flame if I'm incorrect..

The wikithread says the 32" Samsung is $499.99, I see it for $649.99.

Please tell me I'm missing something because I really want this TV!
(I missed out on the frys deal)

[tapakip]

I didn't feel like wading through all 6 pages, so pardon if this has been said....

Costco has a Westinghouse 32" 720p LCD HDTV right now for only $399. It even has 2 HDMI and a VGA port. I don't know what people are looking for if not that.

Personally, I'm typing this on a 42" 1080p LCD right now, which I got for $800. I love everything about it....got it from Target via SD awhile back. Another deal I don't see getting much better this Black Friday.

I love BF as much as the next guy, but more and more, SD > BF for the best prices.

[kingdude]

Some tvs here at best buy bf ad http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?sduid=346791&t=986997

i hope there are really cheap sharp aquos somewhere

[mhilltamu]

Last BF, I picked up a 46" 1080p Aquos for $1150 and Samsung 50" 720p plasma for $850 out the door. This year, I would hope you could get those same sets for $950 and $750 on BF. Both sets have been used extensively, and are still flawless. Both are awesome sets, but plasma still leads as far as picture quality goes.

Keep in mind, these are brand name sets. The Dynex, Insignia, Olevia, and Vizio's should be another few hundo less.

Are the Dynex, Insignia, Olevia, and Vizio acceptable alternatives?!? If you had to rank them is one better/worse than the other? Just wondering if the extra $$ is worth it for the name brand. Thanks!

[hazardc]

Are the Dynex, Insignia, Olevia, and Vizio acceptable alternatives?!? If you had to rank them is one better/worse than the other? Just wondering if the extra $$ is worth it for the name brand. Thanks!

SOME MODELS of SOME of those brands are decent. When it comes to LCDs ill stick with sharp/samsung personally. sony is good too, but i refuse to buy anything sony.

[younodadeal]

Last BF, I picked up a 46" 1080p Aquos for $1150 and Samsung 50" 720p plasma for $850 out the door. This year, I would hope you could get those same sets for $950 and $750 on BF. Both sets have been used extensively, and are still flawless. Both are awesome sets, but plasma still leads as far as picture quality goes.

Keep in mind, these are brand name sets. The Dynex, Insignia, Olevia, and Vizio's should be another few hundo less.

Buckeye, did you have to wait for hours early in the morning to get those great BF deals?

Thanks,
younodadeal

[susiel2]

fat as far as crt i prefer them in fact i love my samsung 27 inch crt. Several family members had lcds and saw the picture on the samsung and while the stores still had them sold off there lcds. Not everyone is lcd happy.
In fact i realize looking for another would be an almost impossible feet at this point what i paid for mine. But would love to find another crt hdtv for under 400 at 27 inch

[skudzu]

fat as far as crt i prefer them in fact i love my samsung 27 inch crt. Several family members had lcds and saw the picture on the samsung and while the stores still had them sold off there lcds. Not everyone is lcd happy.
In fact i realize looking for another would be an almost impossible feet at this point what i paid for mine. But would love to find another crt hdtv for under 400 at 27 inch

CRT = DEAD WEIGHT. and SPACE. try mounting one to a wall. if you're still intent on getting another, try Craig's list. you can get a 32" Wega for 200-300.

[truongvoky]

i think the big ones will be the 42 inch panasonic 720p plasma as well as the samsung one and i think the price will be 599 and the 50 inch for 799 thats my guess

Much more cheaper I supposed since I got the 720p Plasma Samsung 50" for $899.99 at Fry's last year Black Friday !!!

The quality wasn't good as my 42" 1080p Panasonic Plasma (around $1200 at Best Buy about 9 months ago) and 60" Pioneer Elite 1080p Plasma ($6000 CASH) 9 months ago. and Sony 40" W1000 LCD $1049.99 120Hz 1080p 2 weeks ago).

[truongvoky]

Anyone want to trade their 37" LCD for my 37" CRT? :D

How aobut 37" LCD for my 60" Sony Projection LCD (cost around $4000 3 years ago at Sears).

[truongvoky]

a 37 inch tv for your son's room?...wow. I wish i was your son

Heheh

How about Son in Law?

I have 42" Plasma TV for my 3 year old daughter's bed room and a 60" Sony Projection TV in her game room.
I got 40" Sony LCD 120Hz W1000 for my computer room and now looking for a Sony XBR 37 or 32" for Kitchen or replace my desktop monitor !!!

[truongvoky]

Im in the market for a 50" plasma hdtv for movies and gaming. Does anyone have any idea of what prices i can expect in a month for a 1080p and 720p?

im only 16 so im hoping i can get a 1080p for around $1000 give or take.

FYI,

$1000 you should be able to get 120 Hz 1080p 40" LCD probably and hopefully Sony or Samsung on Black Friday. You also can get a 40" 1080p Plasma right now with that $1000 or will be cheaper on Black Friday. 50" 720p Plasma cost less than $1000 as of right now !!! and cost me $900 a year ago at Fry's Black Friday for a 50" Samsung Plasma

[dondeal80]

Are the Dynex, Insignia, Olevia, and Vizio acceptable alternatives..."

You just named in my opinion some of the lowest quality (Dynex, Insignia, Emprex)(and otehrs) you also left out Westinghouse. One of the companies "Olevia"?, I believe they are now out of business (someone correct me). Vizio - most models have good write-ups. Talking with A Frys rep today, he liked Panasonic hands down when compared to Sony, and considered Panasonic just a step down from Pioneer (which has also stopped production). Plasma over LCD! What do you want? A cheap HDTV, good for a couple of years or one that will still be giving you strong quality service. There are too many HDTVs that are the lower quality on BF and cheap, who knows what will happen in two years - Even though Sony (finally lowering prices) are known as reliable, I rarely hear about bad Pansonics. Philips - Continually look at how many refurbished Philips keep coming out?

Because of economic conditions (even before BF) there are quality TVs that are very reasonable and the possibilities of PM(price match) deals abound!

[truongvoky]

Just my 2 cents. I have been writing up in some Sony TV threads (Frys) and basically saying why wait until BF? - This Year! I really feel that the economic condition have forced some companies especially Sony and others to dump their 1080 TV stock now. The needed to put sales on their books, raise cash has forced them to sell their bulk sales with huge discounts.
Example, Frys which usually get the late model, surplus and discontinued items was able to get some very good TVs and is selling them at some very great discounts. In turn some other re-sellers have them discounted but not as heavy. PM possible deals abound. Basically if you want an excellent TV model (not a price leader 720 or off-brand), I think you should buy right now if you can get a PM. For instnace the 1080 KDL46V4100 can be PMd for under $1,000. CNBC just put a statment out that this will the the slowest holiday season in sales in at least 10 years!

This 1080p KDL46V4100 was sold for $1199.99 with a free Sony S350 Blu-Ray Player few weeks ago at Conn's Appliances (Texas only) when they run out of stock
on the 42" model KDL42V4100 and Substituted with the 46"
KDL46V4100. These are 60 Hz V serries those.

Some price matched last week for Fry's KDL40W4100 for $1099.99 or less last week at Fry's (Currently today went up
$1299.99) the S serries 1080P is for $999.99 today.

[skudzu]

[QUOTE=truongvoky;13931485]Heheh

How about Son in Law?

I have 42" Plasma TV for my 3 year old daughter's bed room and a 60" Sony Projection TV in her game room.
/QUOTE]

yea right.

[LinuxChick]

Wow you people have money to burn! :blowup:

My 19" Magnavox (Philips) has finally started die after 2 decades. I've
been reading reviews and hope to get a new 19" for less than $200. Fat
chance.

Target and Kmart are still pushing SDTV's out for $100 and HDTV Ready
for slightly more. I'm not biting. The reviews I'm reading on most TV's aren't
great either so brand matters. I don't expect these days that newer sets will
live 20 years on average but here's hoping.

As for the poster commenting on "experimental stages" - perhaps he was
referring to plasma burn. Other than that, there is nothing to fear.

[desmonsm]

Wow you people have money to burn! :blowup:

My 19" Magnavox (Philips) has finally started die after 2 decades. I've
been reading reviews and hope to get a new 19" for less than $200. Fat
chance.

Target and Kmart are still pushing SDTV's out for $100 and HDTV Ready
for slightly more. I'm not biting. The reviews I'm reading on most TV's aren't
great either so brand matters. I don't expect these days that newer sets will
live 20 years on average but here's hoping.

As for the poster commenting on "experimental stages" - perhaps he was
referring to plasma burn. Other than that, there is nothing to fear.
I just got a 22" Vizio LCD at WalMart for $300. It's a 720P with only 1 HDMI input, but I don't really care - it's in my bedroom. I have a 42" Sony LCD in the living room and that's the one I care more about.
I'm not sure if WalMart will have any sort of BF sale on this tv, but their return policy is pretty liberal if they do - 90 days! That's why I went ahead and bought it now and if they do have any great deals on a larger screen I can always return the one I've got.

[kevperz]

this is a great thread. This will make buying my TV on blackfriday much easier

[LinuxChick]

Okay so I was at Target and noticed the Samsung's are looking mighty
nice and everyone has been saying Poloroid is the best. I'd kill for a
Consumer Reports subscription right now.

I'm a boob when it comes to the tube and expect many others are as well.
Would really appreciate opinions on brands. I just got an XBox and am
having a blast with CNet's DIY Digital House projects so a TV good for gaming
and with lots of AV inputs, speaker inputs, etc... is vital to my happiness! :lol:

Target is selling service plans for cheap do all stores offer that? I keep reading
horror stories of TV's dying right after the manf. basic warranty ends. :(

[warezdog]

Most of the good 720p's can push 1080i and even on a 1080p you'll have a hard time seeing the diff in a 50" plasma on a cable TV box.
That being said the savings will be incredible to push that huge old stock of 720p's out but 1080p's will have to drop too, the big question is how much?
My decision point is a quality 50" $750/720p or $999/1080p, if the margin is greater than $250 then I'll have to wait till superbowl sales!!

Panasonic, Sony, Hitachi, Samsung all need to start putting cash on the books, there will be sales no doubt! Heck I saw gas in WV today for 2.19, and if I get a loaded 50" for $999 or less I'll have to say I really love a good recession!

[nnvan]

I'm looking for a 50" 720p for $699. Last year Fry's had a 50" 720p plasma for $870. I'm not a 1080p type of guy. No need to spend bank on something that depreciates at 30% per year.

[Rebound]

Okay so I was at Target and noticed the Samsung's are looking mighty
nice and everyone has been saying Poloroid is the best.Polaroid is a horrible brand. The company went bankrupt long ago, an investor bought the trademark at auction. The Polaroid brand name is licensed -- anybody with a cheap good can license the Polaroid name. There is no Polaroid company any more.

Samsung, on the other hand, has become the largest non-Japanese TV manufacturer and will probably overtake Sony in sales.

[Airescape]

delete

[Shellac]

this is a great thread. This will make buying my TV on blackfriday much easier

It's having the opposite effect on me. I'm confused as hell about where to go to buy a tv. At least I'm not working that day and still getting paid.

[ejl10]

Wish they made a 46 in wide screen CRT TV. My Panasoinic CRT is over 10 years old and works as good as the day I got it. I also have a Hitachi that is 27 years old and it works perfectly.

Don't kid yourself. LCD and Plasma TVs are still in the experimental stages. Not many people who have one can say it still works after it's two years old.

I wouldn't say that these televisions are necessarily in the "experimental stages" now, but the manufacturers are certainly not producing them to last 10-20 years. That seems to be fine with their target consumer base, which has proved willing to contract its average replacement cycle time from twelve years to less than five in order to always have the latest and greatest technology. Great for the tech companies that are positioned take advantage of rampant consumerism!

[Digicon]

Can anyone confirm if the 40inch lcd at Sears is 1080p?

[Koggit]

I just want a cheap 52"+ 1080p set with a high contrast ratio... I'll probably camp for the first time this year, I can just do school work in line so it isn't wasted time.

[porkrinds13]

not sure how great of a deal the 52" Sony BRavia is on the front page at $2099....you can get a 52" Sony Bravia this week at Circuity City PLUS a blu ray player for $1999.....I wonder if that's the same tv

[eneyman]

everybody needs to calm down and stop posting horrible ideas and deals for $2000 on a low end Sony.. calm down everybody and also stop posting about Polaroids and Vizio tvs, that is all garbage. Be patient and wait for some normal deals to rollout as the ads come out..all these ideas you guys post are going to make other slickdealers who are not so informed go out and buy a piece of shit.

[Thare187]

everybody needs to calm down and stop posting horrible ideas and deals for $2000 on a low end Sony.. calm down everybody and also stop posting about Polaroids and Vizio tvs, that is all garbage. Be patient and wait for some normal deals to rollout as the ads come out..all these ideas you guys post are going to make other slickdealers who are not so informed go out and buy a piece of shit.

Dude. Is that greenman as your avatar? Badass

[aandrewcc]

can anyone help me to find a 1080p 32" HDTV ?

[digy07]

can anyone help me to find a 1080p 32" HDTV ?

Good luck with that. It's too small of a tv.

[jitu757]

LN52A750 under $1700 please!!! Amazon keeps fluctuating their price on that one and I have seen to go as low $1946 or something like that and then it went back up in the $2100 .

[LinuxChick]

everybody needs to calm down and stop posting horrible ideas and deals for $2000 on a low end Sony.. calm down everybody and also stop posting about Polaroids and Vizio tvs, that is all garbage. Be patient and wait for some normal deals to rollout as the ads come out..all these ideas you guys post are going to make other slickdealers who are not so informed go out and buy a piece of shit.

No one is telling anyone what to buy. All SDers are expected to do their own
homework as usual. Many people will end up with shite anyway. Welcome to
the age of disposable technology.

As for people who are lost already or need help...

Figure out what stores you live near and how far you're willing to drive for a deal.
Keep an eye on the main thread at the top of this forum (Ads) and join the strike
team thread to collaborate with other people in your area.

I'm without a car so my options are limited to Target, Best Buy, Kmart, and Fred
Meyer and a 19". :rolleyes: That's life. :lol:

[Grenata]

can anyone help me to find a 1080p 32" HDTV ?

You could probably find a monitor such as a Dell that does 1080p, but at that size most TVs are 720p.

[VolvoMan]

I'm hoping to find a 26" HDTV for around $300. I can already get a 26" Sharp for around $399.

[mr9865]

can anyone help me to find a 1080p 32" HDTV ?



http://www.target.com/Vizio-Choc-Full-1080p-HDTV/dp/B001GKK14I/sr=1-2/qid=1225769554/ref=sr_1_2/180-6606540-9353915?ie=UTF8&index=target&rh=k%3Avizio&page=1

[bubu469]

Any good LCD with builtin DVD player?

[DrLecter]

Just saw this on Gizmodo:

Sears Black Friday Ad Leaks, Full of HDTVs, Digital Cameras, and Other Gadgets: details at:

http://gizmodo.com/5069125/sears-black-friday-ad-leaks-full-of-hdtvs-digital-cameras-and-other-gadgets

No wonder Sears sales suck so bad. A Proscan 32" 720p for $500? I bought an Olevia 32" 15 months ago for $450. They just don't get the whole concept of Black Friday!

[aristowong]

I'm hoping to find a 26" HDTV for around $300. I can already get a 26" Sharp for around $399.

yep same here probably bb would work

[Jormungandr]

Any good LCD with builtin DVD player?

Has there ever been a good TV with a built in anything player?

[Opusnbill7]

Has there been a good TV with a built in anything player?

I've seen some LCD TV's at Best Buy with built in DVD players. However, they were Westinghouse (which unfortunately is related to the old company only in name). I wouldn't call them..."good". Adequate, maybe... I wouldn't be surprised to see one of them in the BF ad, though...

[dondeal80]

*Update*. Things are so bad out there that Amazon lowered it Sony offer price (52V4100) about $200, on an already killer deal - simply put - no one had the money or was buying it. They lowered their price, (BP350, 52 HDTV & four BP movies - $1500 - free shipping, no tax)!

I now know where some of circuit city's Sony merchandise went. As I have stated in this thread a number of times. There are deals being offered (left and right) for HDTVs before BF. Do not feel you need to wait for BF or that you are even rushed - pick what you want and wait for the offer to be made.

[juiceman]

Samsung LN40A550 here (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16889102202) $948 + Free S&H, not bad, but it would be better around $700 for BF.:D

[Stud]

Wow you people have money to burn! :blowup:

My 19" Magnavox (Philips) has finally started die after 2 decades. I've
been reading reviews and hope to get a new 19" for less than $200. Fat
chance.

Target and Kmart are still pushing SDTV's out for $100 and HDTV Ready
for slightly more. I'm not biting. The reviews I'm reading on most TV's aren't
great either so brand matters. I don't expect these days that newer sets will
live 20 years on average but here's hoping.

As for the poster commenting on "experimental stages" - perhaps he was
referring to plasma burn. Other than that, there is nothing to fear.

Last year Target had 19 inch lcds with dvd built in for $200. I picked up 3 for the kids and they have been fine for them. Still think that would be a great buy today.

[compliance]

I now know where some of circuit city's Sony merchandise went. As I have stated in this thread a number of times. There are deals being offered (left and right) for HDTVs before BF. Do not feel you need to wait for BF or that you are even rushed - pick what you want and wait for the offer to be made.

I think everyone is so used to saying 'wait wait wait' that we are not ready to say 'go go go'. If people remember last year, the deals were in November, culminated on black friday, and then continued (but didn't seem to get better) into December. After the holidays the prices jumped back up. I'd say if you want to wait, wait till the big players' black friday ads leak, but if the deal looks good don't be afraid to jump now either.

[stegen]

Let pray for Sub $2000 Kuros! Lol

[peaceburn]

Hi I have a playstation3 at home sitting in a box because the old tv we have does not have *any* inputs different than antenna/cable. So I'm about to buy the 47" / 120hz vizio at sams club for ~1400$ with tax. I suppose this is very bad deal taking into account the upcoming black friday deals?

It's the wife who's pushing for tv really soon :( so I have to buy something tonight

[compliance]

Hi I have a playstation3 at home sitting in a box because the old tv we have does not have *any* inputs different than antenna/cable. So I'm about to buy the 47" / 120hz vizio at sams club for ~1400$ with tax. I suppose this is very bad deal taking into account the upcoming black friday deals?

It's the wife who's pushing for tv really soon :( so I have to buy something tonight

You can probably do better than that at Fry's or Amazon right now, or soon if you keep an eye on it. I'd wait for a Samsung in that range before going Vizio.

[peaceburn]

I've been to Fry's last weekend, however their tvs are setup in a very bad way and the picture is very bad, and I hate to buy just by the model number. Couldn't see good price for 46/47 either. Right now on their website there's nothing that can match the vizio specs for that price. Even lower specs 46/47 go by 1600-1700 on their site.

Amazon has some nice deals, however I need the tv this evening/tomorrow at worse :( so this narrows me only to local stores where I can pickup the tv. The other way is to buy some cheap 32-37 tv, just for a few weeks until BF and return it for a refund.

In the context of this tread, does Sam's club has BF ads at all? It'll be nightmare to buy this for 1298 now and see it for like 999$ on bf :(

[juiceman]

Hi I have a playstation3 at home sitting in a box because the old tv we have does not have *any* inputs different than antenna/cable. So I'm about to buy the 47" / 120hz vizio at sams club for ~1400$ with tax. I suppose this is very bad deal taking into account the upcoming black friday deals?

It's the wife who's pushing for tv really soon :( so I have to buy something tonight

go to newgg.com, or but that deal on amazon!

[compliance]

I need the tv this evening/tomorrow at worse :(

This is going to cost you then. You should always leave the time to get the right deal on a big purchase. Don't forget about Amazon warehouse deals. Maybe the savings can justify waiting a couple extra days.

[lugnuts237]

From what I have seen Sam's Club always seems to have good prices on all TV's.
They have all the name brand models. If you miss out on Black Friday I would go to Sam's.

Just a thought.

[jumper21987]

i'm looking for a pretty good 46" samsung for the holidays. what kind of price range do you think i'm looking at here? any help would be greatly appreciated

[wwwdotcomdotnet]

It seems like every week I check the 46" Panasonic PZ85U plasma or Samsung 46" a650 LCD on Amazon they come down $50 in price. Hopefully by the time the BF deals role out I can have my mind made out whether I want LCD or plasma...

[sirki11a1ot]

why when I click the link it doesn't show the tv for most of them

[bruin95]

Let pray for Sub $2000 Kuros! Lol

We can pray, but I don't think that will be answered. It's amazing how prices are falling and falling on HDTV's, but the Kuro prices hardly move. Someone should let Pioneer know that the economy isn't exactly great at the moment. I guess they don't want to sell any sets this holiday season. :shake:

[aandrewcc]

im trying to look for 32-37 inches with 1080p under $600 out the door

[bruin95]

im trying to look for 32-37 inches with 1080p under $600 out the door

You'd be better off with a 720p set at those sizes. You are not going to notice any difference with screen sizes that small, any you will save money in the process.

[HelloEvo]

You'd be better off with a 720p set at those sizes. You are not going to notice any difference with screen sizes that small, any you will save money in the process.
will you notice a difference at 40 or 42 inches? I'm mainly buying a TV for xbox 360, and hooking up to my macbook pro for video editing purposes, and I'm trying to figure out if I should hold out for a 1080p or just get a 720p

[hazardc]

If you're going to hook up a computer, you want 1080p


at normal viewing distances on smaller sets, 1080p doesnt make a difference, however i sit very close to the TV when gaming, and i can usually see some difference, although it may be placebo

[machineo]

for a 40" set, 1080p is discernable from 720p at a viewing distance of 7.5' and less. for 30", its around 5.5.'

Please refer to
http://www.carltonbale.com/2006/11/1080p-does-matter/
to understand viewing distance and how it relates to screen size.

[bruin95]

will you notice a difference at 40 or 42 inches? I'm mainly buying a TV for xbox 360, and hooking up to my macbook pro for video editing purposes, and I'm trying to figure out if I should hold out for a 1080p or just get a 720p

At "normal" viewing distances, meaning 8 feet or more, you should not notice a difference between a 720p TV and a 1080p set with screen sizes under 50". Anything over 50", I'd go with 1080p.

[LinuxChick]

After Christmas sales should be quite good though BF sales determine what
retailers will be offering then.

My Phillips/Magnavox actually blew a fuse and started smoking the other day.
Never again. The place reeks. Hit up the local recycling program and got a nice
older Toshiba buying me time for the right deal.

Brands I wont buy no matter how cheap: TruTech, Phillips/Magnavox, Memorex,
and Panasonic, based on reviews and personal experience.

A TV from Amazon!? One heck of a hassle to return should there be a
problem. :rolleyes:

[pigeo000]

will you notice a difference at 40 or 42 inches? I'm mainly buying a TV for xbox 360, and hooking up to my macbook pro for video editing purposes, and I'm trying to figure out if I should hold out for a 1080p or just get a 720p

also you would be better going plasma for the video editing purpose in the fact of the color accuracy and how important it is to you if you are doing color correcting and such. Just watch out for burn in within the first 100 hours

[stegen]

We can pray, but I don't think that will be answered. It's amazing how prices are falling and falling on HDTV's, but the Kuro prices hardly move. Someone should let Pioneer know that the economy isn't exactly great at the moment. I guess they don't want to sell any sets this holiday season. :shake:

no reason to give away the best

[Grenata]

no reason to give away the best

"If you're good at something, never do it for free..."

[VolvoMan]

im trying to look for 32-37 inches with 1080p under $600 out the door

Newegg.com has the Westinghouse LVM-37W3SE 37" 1080p LCD HDTV for $600 with coupon code EMCBBAGAB . I think this deal is good thru 11/12/08.

[Brutis]

We can pray, but I don't think that will be answered. It's amazing how prices are falling and falling on HDTV's, but the Kuro prices hardly move. Someone should let Pioneer know that the economy isn't exactly great at the moment. I guess they don't want to sell any sets this holiday season. :shake:

The pioneer line has always been for high end consumers. High end consumers are not affected as much by this economy down turn. My friend just paid MSRP for 60in Kuro last week with no regret. It's the best TV out and people will buy it because of that. Pioneer's pricing is fine.

[aandrewcc]

Newegg.com has the Westinghouse LVM-37W3SE 37" 1080p LCD HDTV for $600 with coupon code EMCBBAGAB . I think this deal is good thru 11/12/08.

thanks! im going to look into it

You'd be better off with a 720p set at those sizes. You are not going to notice any difference with screen sizes that small, any you will save money in the process.

i have a laptop right now, but im planning to get a desktop within a year or so and im going to use this tv as my monitor thats why i need 1080p.

[machineo]

A TV from Amazon!? One heck of a hassle to return should there be a
problem. :rolleyes:

They dont charge a restocking fee, on a set over 27" you can call them and together you arrange when a shipping company can come pick it up. Under 27" sets you print out a label and follow their instructions on shipping to them.
If the return is based on a defect, then you dont pay shipping.

It would be just as bad returning to a b&m since you have to pack it, unpack it and show them whats wrong. Plus you pay tax at b&m

[ThinkPink00]

Has any 1 seen this ? Not a BF deal but walmart has $798 Sanyo 46"lcd/ 1080p HDTV (http://www.walmart.com/catalog/catalog.gsp?adid=1500000000000006820330&cat=1026142) this Nov 8.

[liminchun]

So im in a market to purchase a new tv. As of now im deciding to buy a 42-47inch lcd with 1080p. But i was wondering how the 2 of them compare, which is better, does anyone own any of them?

[bleacht]

[QUOTE=LinuxChick;14101403]

Brands I wont buy no matter how cheap: TruTech, Phillips/Magnavox, Memorex,
and Panasonic, based on reviews and personal experience.

QUOTE]

if you can't afford a Pioneer Kuro, good luck finding a plasma better than a Panasonic

[elBradford]

if you can't afford a Pioneer Kuro, good luck finding a plasma better than a Panasonic

I love my panasonic 37" 720p plasma. Works perfectly for the last 2 years, picture quality is great.

[bruin95]

Brands I wont buy no matter how cheap: TruTech, Phillips/Magnavox, Memorex,
and Panasonic, based on reviews and personal experience.



if you can't afford a Pioneer Kuro, good luck finding a plasma better than a Panasonic

Very true.

[Brutis]

panasonic makes some good plasmas. However I'd put them on par with Samsung and not put them or any other manufacturer in the same sentence as Kuro.

[bleacht]

if anybody is looking for some research:

http://www.electronichouse.com/slideshow/category/5254/810

[SterlingMist]

So very disappointing these BF TV deals are turning out to be... I was hoping for a 46" 1080p LCD in the $600-$700 range.

[24mandk24]

will you notice a difference at 40 or 42 inches? I'm mainly buying a TV for xbox 360, and hooking up to my macbook pro for video editing purposes, and I'm trying to figure out if I should hold out for a 1080p or just get a 720p

I've been trying to look into this too, as I have a ps3 and am wanting a hdtv for it so bad, one thing to keep in mind right now is that most games are still being made at 720p so it really won't make much difference.

[amdmaxx]

no way. we wish. It probably costs them more to cut the glass alone.
2009 fabs supposedly will allow larger glass peaces and will bring prices down..


So very disappointing these BF TV deals are turning out to be... I was hoping for a 46" 1080p LCD in the $600-$700 range.

I am hesitant to get LCD for gaming due to input lag.. Some say its not bad, some say it bothers them.


I've been trying to look into this too, as I have a ps3 and am wanting a hdtv for it so bad, one thing to keep in mind right now is that most games are still being made at 720p so it really won't make much difference.

[darquis]

Between plasma and lcd - are either supposed to last longer or be far superior? I see plasma prices being generally lower than lcd, but for all i know that's cuz lcd is way better. Advice?

[LinuxChick]

if you can't afford a Pioneer Kuro, good luck finding a plasma better than a Panasonic

Plasma? Heck no. I'm just looking for a smaller HDTV since most sets don't last as long
as they used to in the old days and technology keeps advancing. Polaroid yes, Pansonic
and I'll pass.

[TheBDub]

So im in a market to purchase a new tv. As of now im deciding to buy a 42-47inch lcd with 1080p. But i was wondering how the 2 of them compare, which is better, does anyone own any of them?

Between the two, the LN46A650 is a far superior tv. They are both 50,000:1 (supposedly). However, the LG has issues with their 120hz (pixelated anti-judder, its almost unwatchable), and their contrast ratio looks closer to 5,000:1. Seriously, look at them right next to each other, there's a reason Samsung is #1 in LCD. I would personally not go with LG anything unless it is a cell phone because they are the same quality as Sharp; just not up to par.

If the LN46A650 is anywhere near 15-1700, I would jump on it over any LG.

As for darquis:

IMO, LCD is superior.
Usually the life for a decent Panasonic plasma is 60,000 hours
A Samsung A650 is rated at 100,000 hours
However, plasma is nice to have in dark rooms because of their superior contrast ratios. Their 1/4 to 1/2" of glass panel makes them awfully heavy, and they cannot be moved easily due to the sensitivity of the gasses in the plasma tv.

So my opinion, unless you're getting a Kuro or a Panasonic 800z or higher, go with a Samsung or a Sony LCD. Any refresh rate at 5ms or less is hard to tell, even playing games like guitar hero.

[bruin95]

Plasma? Heck no. I'm just looking for a smaller HDTV since most sets don't last as long
as they used to in the old days and technology keeps advancing. Polaroid yes, Pansonic
and I'll pass.

Polaroid? Polaroid over Panasonic? :lmao: Are you freakin' kidding me? No offense, but you really seem to be clueless when it comes to TV's.

[bruin95]

IMO, LCD is superior.


In terms of picture quality, Plasma EASILY beats LCD hands down.

[FLMunchkin]

Im hearing 37" tv's for $350 and 42" tv's for $600 or less.

The 37" for $350 - Is that for 1080 or 720?

[Grenata]

If the LN46A650 is anywhere near 15-1700, I would jump on it over any LG.

So my opinion, unless you're getting a Kuro or a Panasonic 800z or higher, go with a Samsung or a Sony LCD. Any refresh rate at 5ms or less is hard to tell, even playing games like guitar hero.

The LN46A650 is $1507.95 @ Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-LN46A650-46-Inch-1080p-120Hz/dp/B001413D94/ref=pd_bbs_sr_3?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1226162091&sr=8-3) right now.

I used to have a Playstation 2 connected to an LG and I couldn't notice any lag.

[skudzu]

In terms of picture quality, Plasma EASILY beats LCD hands down.

you must be another one that thinks Polaroid is better than Panasonic too.

[dondeal80]

High end consumers are going/will be affected by this downturn. For example, New York is losing high end from the brokerage and related layoffs. As the unemployment dominos continue - related layoffs will affect their spending. Say GM goes - just say - that will eventually equate to about 7 related jobs per worker. We havent't even started to see the unemployment midpoint - wait until Jan! Some of those are high end consumers. Retailers are already noticing that high end consumers are affected and cutting back.

Panasonic (Plasmas) are rated by a lot of people superior to Sony. Take a look at return rates/return sales on those- One Frys knowledgable sales person rated them just a step down from Pioneer (the latest models, in the last two years). Simply put they are putting out a superior product. Are they superior to particular Samsung HDTVs? Some Pansonics are!

For those who are waiting for the BF sales. You will see (bottom price) on 720s and lower end TVs. I am currently seeing loads of quality models sales (excellent) going on right now of 1080s at prices well below BF of last year.

[LinuxChick]

Polaroid? Polaroid over Panasonic? :lmao: Are you freakin' kidding me? No offense, but you really seem to be clueless when it comes to TV's.

If you look at my other posts here, I actually said "I'm a boob when it comes to the tube."
I'm not a gamer or even a cable subscriber.

CableCard would be cool for my PC :bounce2: but can't afford it. Having a hard time
keeping up with gadgets with no real cash flow.

Please remember there are people viewing these threads who are older, poor, or just
plain tech challenged when it comes to electronics. Be kind.

[dondeal80]

Oh, on one of the current sales - picked up a Sony 52V4100(1080), 350 Blue Ray player and 4 Blue Ray movies for a total (no tax) 1496. Could I have done that in last year's BF specials, No!

[Grenata]

I'm really itching for the Samsung LN46A650. It's an incredibly cheap $1507.95 on Amazon right now; should I bite now or wait until BF or early December and hope to get a better deal?

[machineo]

Yeah LG has been slowly gaining ground in the PQ wars. Its no XBR or series 9 but its still a quality set.
The 60 and 70 line PQ wise has been compared to the samsung 630 (both matte) screen. It has lesser blacks because it uses the IPS panel instead of the VA panels commonly used, and gains a wider viewing spectrum.

[bruin95]

you must be another one that thinks Polaroid is better than Panasonic too.

Please read post #192 for the answer to that question. And if you're one that thinks that LCD have better PQ than Plasma's, please get your eyes checked.

[johnfoe]

Wish they made a 46 in wide screen CRT TV. My Panasoinic CRT is over 10 years old and works as good as the day I got it. I also have a Hitachi that is 27 years old and it works perfectly.

Don't kid yourself. LCD and Plasma TVs are still in the experimental stages. Not many people who have one can say it still works after it's two years old.

I have a 37" I bought from WALMART 3 years ago for $1800, it still works and I'm not going to say whether this is luck or not. It has even SURVIVED an electrical outlet that the ground was actually HOT so when I plugged in a coaxil cable it would use the cable as a ground sending 120 volts through my tv until it tripped the breaker.

You can keep claiming 'experimental stage' bullshit, but the truth is that this is how product development works. CRT tvs are horrid power hogs, so much that if you use it 8 hours a day as a main tv you will use $400 or more electricity where I live (double that if you live in cali or texas) . So if an LCD tv lasts for 2 years you could easily save enough to replace it again.

[dondeal80]

Eye opener. Frys web just posted the 46 (1080) panasonic plasma for $1099 and the 50 inch for 1299!

[nnvan]

so far BF ads have been disappointing. i'm holding out for frys to save the day.

i'm looking for a 50" samsung plasma. sears has it for $899 but that's a lame BF price. frys had it for $849 a couple of weeks ago. i hope frys has it for $699.

[gotcheaprice]

I will be purchasing a 32" LCD HDTV for my room, hopefully this black friday. I will mainly be using it for PS3 gaming and occasional Blu-ray, and as my comp monitor. It will eventually leave my room to be used in the living room though(half a year maybe?).
Any idea if they'll reach to maybe as low as $300? I don't want a cheapo brander, but I don't want to spend an extra $150 or so for a sony.
Also, 720P should be sufficient right? I'll be viewing it from about 3-4 feet away.

[satyrica]

everybody needs to calm down and stop posting horrible ideas and deals for $2000 on a low end Sony.. calm down everybody and also stop posting about Polaroids and Vizio tvs, that is all garbage. Be patient and wait for some normal deals to rollout as the ads come out..all these ideas you guys post are going to make other slickdealers who are not so informed go out and buy a piece of shit.

BAHAHAHAHAH!! :lmao:


REP

[rofljeff]

I will be purchasing a 32" LCD HDTV for my room, hopefully this black friday. I will mainly be using it for PS3 gaming and occasional Blu-ray, and as my comp monitor. It will eventually leave my room to be used in the living room though(half a year maybe?).
Any idea if they'll reach to maybe as low as $300? I don't want a cheapo brander, but I don't want to spend an extra $150 or so for a sony.
Also, 720P should be sufficient right? I'll be viewing it from about 3-4 feet away.

This is exactly what I'm looking for. I want a good but fairly small tv for maybe under $300. It's going to go in my room mainly for gaming on my xbox 360.

[inv1nceble]

is there any 37" with 1080p for under 500? or around there?

[inv1nceble]

im trying to look for 32-37 inches with 1080p under $600 out the door

check out buy.com westinghouse 37" 1080p 569.99 + free ship.

[MacDude]

Great thread - rep'd!

I'm looking for a Plasma between 32-42 for a bedroom TV. Been eyeing the current Costco deal on the Panasonic 42" Plasma for $699 http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?sduid=0&t=989593

Anyone think BF will see this or a similar Plasma drop significantly in price, or should I just get this one? I really dont need a TV this big (in fact this one is probably TOO big for my room), but it seems there are not too many smaller Plasmas out there?

[homang]

Great thread - rep'd!

I'm looking for a Plasma between 32-42 for a bedroom TV. Been eyeing the current Costco deal on the Panasonic 42" Plasma for $699 http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?sduid=0&t=989593

Anyone think BF will see this or a similar Plasma drop significantly in price, or should I just get this one? I really dont need a TV this big (in fact this one is probably TOO big for my room), but it seems there are not too many smaller Plasmas out there?

i have a similar situation, is thinking about going w/ a 37" and hoping it to be around
$500 :)

[skudzu]

Please read post #192 for the answer to that question. And if you're one that thinks that LCD have better PQ than Plasma's, please get your eyes checked.

my eyes don't deceive me, your's obviously do.LCD'S are better all around TV'S.

[hazardc]

BAHAHAHAHAH!! :lmao:


REP


Yeah i agree with that guy, i got an aquos 46" last year for $999 on BF at ABC Warehouse. IMO, 2007 was the WORST BF in recent memory. I am hoping better deals come through this year. I need a bedroom tv. I'm looking for a deal on a 42"+. It's either going to be a sharp or samsung LCD, or it's going to be a Panny/pioneer plasma. I would take a sony, but i know they arent going to be worth the money.

So far the only Sharp's going up for BF deals are non-aquos models.. they arent even as good as the last aquos that i already bought. If bf doesnt come through ill just hope some better deals come in december like last year, hopefully from somewhere like dell so i can just put it on my no interest for a year card.

[bruin95]

my eyes don't deceive me, your's obviously do.LCD'S are better all around TV'S.

You are CLUELESS!!!!

[KyleMittskus]

I'm looking at getting the 42" 1080p Sylvania for my dad. Do you think the Samsung (I have a sammy 1080p) is worth the extra $100? Thanks.

[homang]

I'm looking at getting the 42" 1080p Sylvania for my dad. Do you think the Samsung (I have a sammy 1080p) is worth the extra $100? Thanks.

yep, i 2nd it.

[sc4jc]

Ok Big Boxes. Give us some deals!

[hazardc]

yep, i 2nd it.


i 3rd it

samsung is a top player in the game. sylvania is fail.

[aohus]

I'm looking for a 46' plasma or lcd, although i'm currently heavily leaning towards a plasma. My 1st choice television would be the Panasonic Viera 46' 1080p (TH-46PZ85U). Lowest I see is on 6ave.com for 1,213 FS using promo code AFL5. I definitely want it to be in the sub 1,000 range for BF, but I doubt that will happen.

For all those that are always insistent on LCD's over plasma, think twice. A lot of the issues of past plasmas have been corrected, especially with anti-glare screens as well as longer life-spans. Burn-in's are more rare as well. Plasma has deeper blacks and more vivid colors than LCDs. can be noticed here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=105180&d=1205957588

[doomtoall]

So very disappointing these BF TV deals are turning out to be... I was hoping for a 46" 1080p LCD in the $600-$700 range.

you were setting your hopes way to high!!!

[skudzu]

You are CLUELESS!!!!

Plasma's are heavier, use more electricity, have a shorter life span, and have burn-in issues, also, if you like watching tv in the dark, then plasma is for you. if you put comparable Plasma and LCD'S side by side, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference .........i guess i am CLUELESS.

[kevdude]

So I bought an advertised-new HP LC3260N (http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/product/29583/review/lc3260.html) (32", 720p, 450cd/m, contrast 1200:1) from ebay for $293 shipped after cashback, which by hearsay is the same model as the Sharp LC32D40U. Was that purchase ill-advised? After reading this thread I'm beginning to think I should wait for BF for the deals. I might still be able to back out of the sale.

What do you guys think? I didn't know the prices were going as low as 300 for a 32" (maybe 1080p?).

I'm considering using it for comp games, movies, and as a comp monitor (wished it were 1080p). But it shouldn't be that bad for text, right?

[homang]

So I bought an advertised-new HP LC3260N (http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/product/29583/review/lc3260.html) (32", 720p, 450cd/m, contrast 1200:1) from ebay for $293 shipped after cashback, which by hearsay is the same model as the Sharp LC32D40U. Was that purchase ill-advised? After reading this thread I'm beginning to think I should wait for BF for the deals. I might still be able to back out of the sale.

What do you guys think? I didn't know the prices were going as low as 300 for a 32" (maybe 1080p?).

I'm considering using it for comp games, movies, and as a comp monitor (wished it were 1080p). But it shouldn't be that bad for text, right?

$300 for a 32" sounds pretty decent imo. but still is it an overkill w/ 1080 even when used as a computer monitor?

[SterlingMist]

you were setting your hopes way to high!!!
After looking at the ads, I unfortunately have to agree.... I'm mad that I missed out on the 42" Toshiba Regza from Fry's for $699... Saw it too late!

[Nebberz]

$300 for a 32" sounds pretty decent imo. but still is it an overkill w/ 1080 even when used as a computer monitor?

When your sitting that close, you will notice a difference. Don't make too much difference if your sitting over on your couch though.

[Sim-X]

LN52A650 for under $1500 PLEASE!!!!!!!
2nd that

[aohus]

my eyes don't deceive me, your's obviously do.LCD'S are better all around TV'S.

lol i laughed. he thinks LCD's have better PQ than Plasma. hahahahhaha!

i find it humorous that people jump on the LCD bandwagon so quickly.

A reference for deep black comparisons between LCDs and Plasma
http://img367.imageshack.us/my.php?image=comparativeblacks3tvsyh9.jpg

[ferky1]

I have never taken advantage of BF deals but I am considering it now. Apologies in advance if this is a stupid question but. . . . are the best deals only for in-store customers? I am generally an internet shopper and now I am in the market for 2 TVs - a 37" LCD and a 50" Plasma. Considering that I don't even have the vehicle to transport a 50" TV, I am particularly interested in making my purchases electronically. Do the promised BF deals apply to me, or should I not bother waiting?

On a related note, any reasonable guesses as to what I should be able to get a 37" LCD and 50" plasma for? My only limitations are that I want a higher end manufacturer (panny, pio, sony, sharp, etc.) and I think that I need the 50" to be 1080p. Any chance of getting both of these for under $1,500 total?

[dondeal80]

A number of retailers sll BF items over the web. Some of them had had BF sales via the web and a different one for in store. *Check with your local retailer* for details. Couldn't resist. I noticed for instance Sears HDTVs. Their BF prices can be undercut today, no big news - please review Amazon's current prices on Panasonic 50 inch or even the Sony 52 (combo/promo deal) /no tax and free shipping(white gloves). Amazon is trying to undercut Frys deals at the moment (and is doing so). Circuit City is having problems getting manufac to deliever (see what they owe Sony 60 million?) goods. I imagine this will put some damper on CC BF day! Review what you really want, see what prices (limited supplies) and see what price Amazon, Frys, 6th Ave, Bens of maine are currently selling for. Why wait. *note the Panasonic thread sales today - some of those look BF ($850 for Panasonic 50)!!

[cmlars]

What do you guys think about getting a Panasonic 42" 720p plasma for $625? It's on sale at PC Richards for $650, and at CC for $899, so with the price match it'd be $625. I have 2 Sony cards that I need to use soon so that I get the $150 credit each and this seemed like a good deal.

[queenoid]

I have never taken advantage of BF deals but I am considering it now. Apologies in advance if this is a stupid question but. . . . are the best deals only for in-store customers? I am generally an internet shopper and now I am in the market for 2 TVs - a 37" LCD and a 50" Plasma. Considering that I don't even have the vehicle to transport a 50" TV, I am particularly interested in making my purchases electronically. Do the promised BF deals apply to me, or should I not bother waiting?

On a related note, any reasonable guesses as to what I should be able to get a 37" LCD and 50" plasma for? My only limitations are that I want a higher end manufacturer (panny, pio, sony, sharp, etc.) and I think that I need the 50" to be 1080p. Any chance of getting both of these for under $1,500 total?

In my experience, the limited, knock-yer-sox-off deals are only in the store. They're the ones you line up for a couple of hours ahead of time. Last year we were in line 1.5 hours early at Best Buy for one of the tickets for a 42" lcd Samsung. We did get the ticket, and we did get the TV.

There are good deals online, but the barnbusters are in the store. Just my experience. :sleepy:

[nuccabay]

I will be purchasing a 32" LCD HDTV for my room, hopefully this black friday. I will mainly be using it for PS3 gaming and occasional Blu-ray, and as my comp monitor. It will eventually leave my room to be used in the living room though(half a year maybe?).
Any idea if they'll reach to maybe as low as $300? I don't want a cheapo brander, but I don't want to spend an extra $150 or so for a sony.
Also, 720P should be sufficient right? I'll be viewing it from about 3-4 feet away.



if you got the PS3 and want to watch BluRay dont go with 720p spend the extra and get the 1080p

[funkmasterta]

Wish they made a 46 in wide screen CRT TV. My Panasoinic CRT is over 10 years old and works as good as the day I got it. I also have a Hitachi that is 27 years old and it works perfectly.

Don't kid yourself. LCD and Plasma TVs are still in the experimental stages. Not many people who have one can say it still works after it's two years old.

Are you seriously trying to claim that LCD technology is still "in the experimental stages"?

:lmao:

[KyleMittskus]

Comparison question again all ye technology oracles:

Sharp from Dell or Samsung from Sears?

[skudzu]

lol i laughed. he thinks LCD's have better PQ than Plasma. hahahahhaha!

i find it humorous that people jump on the LCD bandwagon so quickly.

A reference for deep black comparisons between LCDs and Plasma
http://img367.imageshack.us/my.php?image=comparativeblacks3tvsyh9.jpg

keep laughing, why do you think Plasma's are so much cheaper than comparable LCD'S? because they're BETTER?......hahahahahaha! they'll soon be in the landfill's with the BETAMAX'S.....hahahahaha......to expensive to repair. and YES, they will break down BEFORE an LCD. FYI, Sega was superior to the NES, as was Beta to the Vhs. where did they end up? it's also obvious you're comparison of "deep darks" was taken in the "dark" which is where LCD is gonna leave Plasma.

[aohus]

keep laughing, why do you think Plasma's are so much cheaper than comparable LCD'S? because they're BETTER?......hahahahahaha! they'll soon be in the landfill's with the BETAMAX'S.....hahahahaha......to expensive to repair. and YES, they will break down BEFORE an LCD.

let me rectify my statement: I won't say one tech is better than the other, however, I do feel as though Plasmas get a bad wrap because of some common misconceptions, such as the issue of burn-in's, which have been resolved in the most part, as well as glare issues, which panasonic has nicely dealt with their anti-glare screens. By the way, plasma tv's are not a new edition, its been around for a long long time. So to say that it will be in the "landfill" with the Betamax's is a bit of a stretch.

I'll tell you some facts: Plasma's DO in fact produce better range of colors, deeper blacks (meaning the range of colors are increased), a lot less banding (which you clearly see on LCD's), and almost no motion-blur. Yes, even with your 2ms response time LCD, you will be getting more motion blur than a plasma. Lifespan for new plasmas these days are over 100,000 hours, about 30 years if played 8 hours/day. Now tell me, do you even consider yourself keeping a tv for more than 5-6 years? Also, viewing angles on plasma's are better than LCDs. Dont most LCD TV's use TN panels anyways? buahaha.

Downsides of a plasma: High power consumption (almost 630 watts for the panasonic plasma). This results in higher electricity bills obviously.

Burn-in: still a factor for plasmas, so ill put it in the con category. I really cant think of any other downsides to plasma tvs.

btw, the fact that you are comparing tv's based solely on price is elementary and silly at best. That just tells me you're not a smart shopper :p

[webdev511]

I will be purchasing a 32" LCD HDTV for my room, hopefully this black friday. I will mainly be using it for PS3 gaming and occasional Blu-ray, and as my comp monitor. It will eventually leave my room to be used in the living room though(half a year maybe?).
Any idea if they'll reach to maybe as low as $300? I don't want a cheapo brander, but I don't want to spend an extra $150 or so for a sony.
Also, 720P should be sufficient right? I'll be viewing it from about 3-4 feet away.

Use the home theater calculator (http://www.carltonbale.com/home-theater/home-theater-calculator/). (Distance chart on the second tab)

[LinuxChick]

Mitsubishi claims that current high-definition televisions only display 40%
of the colour spectrum the eye can see. It's laser screens offer double that.
They're already available though not widely.

Samsung is studying laser technology but focusing on 3D plasma screens.
"The 42in and 50in screens rely on software, running on a PC connected to the
screen, and polarised glasses to create the 3D image." :eek:

Samsung and Sony are also into organic light emitting diode (OLED) sets that
are brighter than LCD displays and ultra thin. All of these things are in experimental
stages and super exspensive and super large or super small.

And here we are squabbling over apples and oranges.

[gotcheaprice]

if you got the PS3 and want to watch BluRay dont go with 720p spend the extra and get the 1080p

Use the home theater calculator (http://www.carltonbale.com/home-theater/home-theater-calculator/). (Distance chart on the second tab)
It says 1080P, so 1080P it is.

[rayman19082]

I pray to god that the Samsung LN46A650 to be between 1100-1300 on BF... come on make it happen!!!!:woot:

[KyleMittskus]

LN52A650 for under $1500 PLEASE!!!!!!!

Amazon has it for $1518.

[Gengo]

LN52A650 for under $1500 PLEASE!!!!!!!
Amazon has it for $1518.

I see the LN46A650 for $1518, but the LN52A650 is currently $1909.

[aohus]

Flat panel TV shipments on the decline, which means bigger price drops! I may even wait after BF and see what other deals may be going on. I'm expecting that everyday will be a BF day this time of year with the recession and all.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10093153-1.html

[pchefchik]

Flat panel TV shipments on the decline, which means bigger price drops! I may even wait after BF and see what other deals may be going on. I'm expecting that everyday will be a BF day this time of year with the recession and all.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10093153-1.html

Agreed. Consumer confindence is so low right now that Retailers already expect Black Friday to be a bust compared to previous years.

I work with the retail world everyday and can tell you that Buyers/Planners are putting more emphasis on Cyber Monday than BF.

They are also asking for aggressive December Promos to help close the gap in sales for the year end.

The consensus of Retail Buyers I work with is "We'll put it out there for Black Friday, but what can you offer us in December for last minute shopping"

Shoppers (us) overall are worried becasue the trend of shopping early in recent years has casued many retailers to offer late/better deals. So there may be a bigger hold out this year which will also affect BF sales and could spark retailers to drop their drawers more in December.

Good luck all and Merry Christmas!

[panicinwi]

It says 1080P, so 1080P it is.

So if I'm going to be using my TV, thinking of getting a 42-46" plasma, for ps3 & blu-ray am I that better off going with a 1080p instead of a 720p?

[zerosyc]

If there's a good deal on a good 50" or larger, I am so jumping on it.

[hazardc]

52'' - $1399.99 1080p Sharp Aquos LC52D64U LCD - AAFES (military only)

That's the TV im gunning for, hopefully before christmas... hopefully under 1200

[antsmarchn]

I am looking to pick up a 40 inch for my bedroom and have been looking at some deals, but of course havent seen anything for what I want. Has anyone seen any deals on the following models:
Samsung LN40A750 or LN40A650
Sony KDL-40XBR7, KDL-40XBR6, or KDL-40Z4100

[gotcheaprice]

So if I'm going to be using my TV, thinking of getting a 42-46" plasma, for ps3 & blu-ray am I that better off going with a 1080p instead of a 720p?

For anything above 40", I suggest 1080p, but mine was 32" but I was sitting very close, so yeah, 1080P. Might have to stick with 720P depending on price though.