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|10-12-2012 04:57 PM|
Hey Duuder, noticed on todays Frys ad they have a few bundle deals. Not sure if have what you
are looking for but thought I'd give you a heads up.
http://www.frys.com/ads/page7 (as of 10/12/2012)
|10-08-2012 09:44 PM|
I think that all questions are answered or have an answer.
The discussion is going nowhere.
|10-08-2012 09:40 PM|
activating window ain't that bad, driver is always up at the manufacture website, I actually found wifi/bt useful. And I'm just using mine as an example, you certainly don't have to buy AIO, you can buy a regular tower at 300, and it'll probably even have better spec than my AIO. In fact if i'm buying a tower now, i wouldn't even bother with a graphic card, I'll just go straight ahead to one of those AMD fusion if you want graphic performance.
And like I said, the post I quoted was at 550 WITHOUT a graphic card, give me 550 I can get you a tower to add a graphic card from a manufacture with better spec than listed.
My point is that the flexibility of prebuilt system these days are quite obsolete, because manufactures are pumping out many types of computers, and almost all the time on slickdeals, it's cheaper to buy a prebuilt that fits your need for cheaper than you can built one.
|10-08-2012 08:07 PM|
Why you're comparing the best laptops ever made (IBM ThinkPad) to the OP's PC choice, is a bit mysterious.
|10-08-2012 07:24 PM|
|dude2000||we had corporate account with dell ; 10,000 desktops so it's not pcworld it's work related experience as far as ibm; I am still can boot my t40|
|10-08-2012 05:45 PM|
They have been posting these near identical stats for years.
Just for instance, eMachines and Gateway, were purchased by Acer to be their bargain brand. In other words, even cheaper than an Acer, and they score better than HP's and Dells, and mostly above Lenvo and HP buisness line, etc.
I mean... like the football guy say.... C'MON MAN.
Those charts are pure BS.
Any mag/rag that is fanboy driven, will not give you any correct PC info.
It's as simple as that.
|10-08-2012 05:13 PM|
|10-08-2012 05:00 PM|
Dell quality it is a big difference between dell for home vs dell for enterprise
|10-08-2012 04:35 PM|
I have a Dell XPS and the PSU came with the connectors for a GPU.
Wifi and Bluetooth are nothing less than excellent, and the drivers are available on the Dell website.
Although you may find it complicated to activate Windows if you add in an SSD, it's still a lot better than having to buy the OS, when you build yourself.
The particular PC that I bought, had components that would have cost me a minimum of $100 more to purchase, than if I built it myself, not to mention that Windows was included in the price of the ready built.
So I have a PC that is a bit limited by size, for instance, if I wanted to have 2 graphics cards (which I don't) or if I want to plug in more than 4 hard drives.
Other than that downside, I have a tougher, more resistant machine than a home built.
I frequently build for others, as that's what they want and it's often a lot easier for them to import the components, than the whole machine which might cost them some big import duties.
But I see them breakdown more than the Dell and HP prebuilt computers.
That may not be as big an issue on the US mainland, as the electricity here is horrible and it has a tendency to fry systems.
Nevertheless, I like the idea of my PC being tough and durable, and I liked the better price, and the quality of all the components, be it the case, the DVD, the PSU, etc.
I'm sure that other brands and low end machines don't live up to the XPS, but there is something to be said for buying a ready built, otherwise, I wouldn't have bought one.
I may be ugly, but I ain't stupid, and when the money's coming out of my pocket, I do my homework.
|10-08-2012 04:29 PM|
|dude2000||Usually it’s cheaper to purchase general purpose computer, but it’s cheaper to build a workstation computer tuned for special needs like gaming, video processing, photoshop, multi disk setup for better IO and etc..|
|10-08-2012 04:17 PM|
and 1tb for $50 is a pretty good deal, but you most likely won't find ANY cheap pre-builts with a SSD - and it's just swapping it in, yes, but you also need to re-install windows, and then since it's not a retail license, you will likely need to call in and activate it(aka read off 30 characters to a robot on the phone, and then type in 30 characters that the robot tells you, since it has already been activated once by the manufacturer, and it's a special manufacturer key that is on the sticker - basically as much of a hassle as it is to assemble a PC from scratch
or are you going to suggest just making a back-up of the standard hard drive from the computer, (to some external or something) and imaging that onto the SSD, thus most likely screwing up it's alignment and limiting the speed of the SSD?
also, things like wifi and BT on a desktop usually aren't great.. especially the bundled ones, and cause problems if you try to actually use them (wifi drivers for windows 7 is already a pain to find on a lot of models, usually involving finding the chipset maker of the wifi device and getting a generic driver from them - good luck finding win8 drivers)
I agree that an i3 is better than the G850, but it won't be the bottleneck most of the time - the HDD will be most of the time for general use, the graphics will be when gaming, and the internet connection will be when doing internet stuff - the CPU is almost never the bottleneck unless you are doing something like photoshop or video transcoding
|10-08-2012 12:58 PM|
From those ads, one can get a really good idea of what type of items might come on sale on BF, and how good the prices might be.
|10-08-2012 12:51 PM|
Here is a look at last years (2011) BF offerings from Fry's and Microcenter.
I hope this year is better, especially from Fry's but we will have to wait and see.
Most ads seems to start appearing like 1-2 weeks before BF.
|10-08-2012 07:28 AM|
SSD is optional. It'll improve load times but for gaming you will have minimal benefit. Drop it if it means you lowering your standard for Video card or processor.
If you have a HDD. You can save money by transferring it into new system. Please note that Windows 7 HDDs don't like to be put in new systems so you'll likely have to reinstall W7.
DVD, if you have an old system, take your old one out and put it in your new system.
Fans, you won't be overclocking. Stock fans should be sufficient.
Keyboard/mouse, bring them over from your old system. If you need to buy new, don't buy wireless unless you enjoy paying for batteries.
OS, there are certain places on the internet where you can download these for free. If that clears your concious do it. I would. Lets face it. A DVD isn't worth $100. In comparison Apple OSs are often ~$30 and Linux is usually free.
Monitor, if you have an old LCD you can scratch this off your buy list. If you have a CRT or nothing don't hesitate to drop $90-150 on a new monitor.
CPU, I feel you need at least an i3. you can get an i3 2100 for $105 if you want cheap. I'd opt for a 3220 ($130) or 2120 ($120) though.
Video card...add up everything and decide how much you're willing to spend in total.
Go to: http://www.videocardbe
and select the best ranked video card for what you have left in your budget.
|10-08-2012 06:54 AM|
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