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|12-02-2012 02:01 PM|
|ChristianM19||The idiots complaining were the same ones who said the Vizio's were garbage and only lasted 1 yrs(if that).|
|12-02-2012 08:51 AM|
Fry's has it for $688..
|11-30-2012 11:08 PM|
|11-30-2012 01:56 PM|
Look at the reviews on this TCL LED TV at Amazon for example. They better than on most Samsung TV's :-)
Here's another website worth looking at for reviews.
|11-30-2012 01:23 PM|
They charge more for proprietary software, proprietary color rendering software, proprietary apps/menu controls and proprietary algorithms for anything 120hz and up. There are only something like 3-6(?) screen manufacturers world wide. So even companies like Sony buy all or some of their screens from other manufacturers.
There is little difference in the actual screens. There is a great difference in color reproduction softwares.
|11-28-2012 02:26 PM|
Decent for the price.
I've had my TCL 43'' LED TV for a few months now and had no issues whatsoever. It's a great simple LED TV for the money. I think they also use Samsung panels which is nice. I wish they had a 65''.
|11-28-2012 10:05 AM|
|gururise||I seriously doubt this is using a Samsung panel. I heard they are using some third party chinese branded panel.|
|11-28-2012 06:37 AM|
Not that great of a price when you can get a Sammy in the same size for probably $200 more.
I liken TCL to Olevia and Vizio. Both sold a lot of TVs because the quality was pretty good at lower line price levels.
Unfortunately, Olevia couldn't survive selling for that cheap. As for Vizio, they were the #1 selling TV brand for a while. Now that they have established themselves, their prices are in Samsung and Sony's ballpark. I saw a 55" Vizio for $899 at Wal Mart regular price. The Sony was $999. For $100 I'll go with the top tier brand.
For a 55 inch off brand, I'd expect it to be in the 500-600ish price range.
|11-28-2012 06:35 AM|
Crakarjax touched on this, but there's a ton of mis-information floating around about 120 and 240Hz TVs. We need to stop throwing around bad information so we can actually help each other make informed choices.
1) 120Hz is a TV spec, not a software setting. A 120Hz TV shows 120 frames per second (fps). With a 24fps movie, it will display each frame 5 times consecutively. A 60Hz TV shows 60 fps. A 60Hz TV relies on 3:2 pulldown to cram a square peg in a circle hole (making a 24 fps movie display on a 60 fps screen...if you're not keeping track, 60 is not divisible by 24). Basically, every third frame is tripled instead of doubled.
2) The "soap opera" effect is a setting in the menu of some (not all) 120 and 240Hz TVs. Common names are Motion Plus, True Motion, "120Hz mode," etc. Instead of showing each frame 5 times, it will interpolate frames (i.e. guess) to create new information that doesn't exist in the source data in an attempt to smooth out motion. This fills in the gaps between the "real" frames in the movie to produce that weirdo "super smooth" look.
3) The chances are very low (if not totally non-existant) that this is a true 240Hz display. Instead, it's most likely a "240Hz effect" tv. The difference is that a 240Hz TV displays 240 fps while a 240Hz effect TV shows 120Hz, but simulates twice the frames by quickly strobing backlighting to double the perceived frames. That being said, there's no real advantage to 240Hz displays until we have a) an HDMI spec that supports 48 fps video and b) 48fps Blu-Ray players.
4) All this 1,000,000:1 contrast ratio junk is marketing fluff and not based on anything measurable in real life. Manufacturer's can whip whatever number they want on a TV as there is no standard.
In short, it's not your fault you don't understand 120Hz technology because the tech industry has been extremely misleading. As there's no immediate benefit of 120Hz panels vs 60Hz panels while browsing TVs at stores (even though 24fps video most definitely looks better on a 120Hz TV), the "soap opera" effect became the selling point to distinguish 60Hz from 120Hz. And, honestly, for some things the "soap opera" effect isn't that bad. Just realize that it's a software feature that is made possible with 120Hz panels, not the benefit of 120Hz over 60Hz.
|11-28-2012 06:34 AM|
GREAT POST. Just about every sentence contains great information!!!
So, you said "720P might start to be a little low when you get up to 40".
So, according to you, with what size tv does 1080P start to be a little low?
|11-28-2012 06:19 AM|
Why do so many people whine and cry about "only" 720p resolution on 42" and 50" tv's when they love 1080p on 70+, 80+, and now 90+ inch screens? The detail quality of those huge tv's at 1080p is worse than 720p on the 50 inchers.....unless you sit FAR away.
60Hz is better than the garbage 120Hz/240Hz marketing gimmick. Most people turn off the 120Hz/240Hz feature if possible.
|11-28-2012 06:14 AM|
|turnne||I think Frys has this TV as well for $688 currently|
|11-28-2012 06:03 AM|
|rhepungus||TCL is makes a really good TV. I have about 5 of them (various sizes) for my business and they are on 14 hours a day, 7 days a week -- no issues. Highly recommended for a budget screen.|
|11-28-2012 06:01 AM|
Static contrast ratio is THE most important factor in perceived image quality, even greater than resolution. W/o a static contrast ratio, you are rolling the dice with this TV.
|11-28-2012 05:56 AM|
you should check out the Panasonic VT50
I think this professional reviewer mentions that it is the "pinnacle" of picture quality right now
I agree with them and worth every dime of its MSRP even
and its about 40% less than the Sharp Elite.....I wonder which one of them is outselling the other one?
I see either..Sharp adjusting the price of their TV downward...as its vastly overpriced...or them discontinuing it
Off angle viewing and color accuracy are always better on a plasma
as for power usage...is $15.00 more a year going change anyone decision( based on 8 hour a day TV usage) when they are spending $3000( or more) on their television?
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