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|02-10-2013 08:01 AM|
My order was cancelled.
Never got a notification, but when I placed the order it said it was backordered and expected to ship Feb 1. When I checked in on the progress I saw that it had been cancelled.
Contacted STP and was told they didn't receive their order from the vendor and couldn't tell me if they'd be getting any in......
|01-17-2013 12:27 AM|
|kimdotcom||Hmm, I wonder if I'll be more sleeping in these during summer|
|01-16-2013 08:52 PM|
|01-16-2013 08:17 PM|
|travelingmom||Going camping this weekend, wish we could get them by then. Thank you though! We will use them in the future. In for 3!|
|01-16-2013 06:06 PM|
If someone is interested, read the reviews, they're from people who actually own the thing. It's warm, it's huge, but it's warm.
|01-16-2013 02:34 PM|
|01-16-2013 02:18 PM|
|01-16-2013 02:14 PM|
•Fits to: 6'
Bahh normal people sized sleeping bags, grrrr
|01-16-2013 01:54 PM|
|01-16-2013 01:43 PM|
|gobundy||Ordered the -20F one. Hopefully wont bake me in the Southern GA mountains.|
|01-16-2013 01:06 PM|
thanks, just ordered a 0 degree Echo lake (regular) for $34.77 shipped with Free shipping through the android app.
I have a kelty 25 degree down bag for backpacking, but this will make a nice 3-season car camping bag for use by my g/f. I assume the warmth from this 0 degree synthetic mummy bag will be about the same as my 25 down bag.
Great deal for a quality bag. Thanks OP, and thanks greatbarn for info on ordering procedure for FS. Repped~!
|01-16-2013 12:35 PM|
Also, as a weight comparison, the high-end zero-degree down bags my wife and I have weigh 3 lbs, and they are much closer to a "true" rating. In cold weather, I'd expect the zero-degree down bags we have to keep us warm more effectively than these "-20 rated" ALPS bags. And weigh less than half as much, and pack a lot smaller.
I'm not trying to be snobby... I'm just saying that if you're planning on hiking any distance, DON'T get this bag. You'd be better off watching craigslist or Geartrade for a great deal on a lightly-used bag.
The other thing I'll say about high-end bags is that they don't loose a lot of value. If you can get a lightly used bag at 60-70% off retail, you'll be able to use it for a year or two and probably resell it without taking a loss... maybe even make a small profit.
When you're going to be more than a mile or two from the car, I'm a big believer in having the right gear for the weather you'll be in. Nothing makes a trip more miserable than having wrong gear and poor knowledge. It's uncomfortable and potentially dangerous ... especially at these temps.
|01-16-2013 12:30 PM|
These bags will work fine for car camping or for use on cold nights in the backyard or at Black Friday, but are too large and bulky to be worth using for backpacking. The synthetic bags at these weights take up huge amounts of space and are heavy to carry.
I had a couple of the higher end ALPS Mountaineering synthetic bags *(don't remember model name, but the ~$200-$250 retail ones... They were 0-degree bags and I successfully used them down to ~5*F. However, that was with 2-3 insulating layers of clothes, a liner, both foam and insulated air mats, etc.
For general use, I'd say add 20 degrees to the temps of these bags if you're a male, 30 if you're a female (for camping purposes, assume women sleep 5-10 degrees colder than men under the same temps).
Also, for anything below ~40*F, your sleeping pad will make a tremendous amount of difference. If you're in a -20*F bag on icy ground will still be freezing unless you have enough R-value in your sleeping pad to keep you from losing heat to the ground.
Sleeping bags work by trapping air warmed by body heat... the insulation on the underside of a sleeping bag is compressed by your weight and therefore the compressed insulation doesn't trap much warm air and doesn't keep you warm. You need a good sleeping pad for cold temps.
These are a good deal IF they meet your needs -- otherwise you're just throwing money away... and filling your closet with stuff you won't use.
|01-16-2013 12:29 PM|
Good compromise between price and quality, but I've never had a sleeping bag heavier than my tent.
Backpacking 20 miles a day while carrying 6-pound sleeping bag is going to be a quite unpleasant experience.
|01-16-2013 12:20 PM|
|thykra6||Are either of these bags compressible? Thanks for the replies!|
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