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|02-18-2013 05:17 PM|
The media is pretty much completely ignorant about weapons.
Some second amendment advocates are ignorant about weapons types as well.
What is being removed in the car has already been identified by experts on pro second amendment types as not Lanza's AR but an automatic shotgun.
None of this back and forth goes to the real issue which is that: Lanza with a 100 year old 1911 45cal semitauto pistol and 20 or 30 ten round clips, could have killed way more children huddled in a mass as thought by lock down exercise than with an AR.
the ar-15 conferred the following advantages:
-ability to shoot police through their vests
- accuracy at longer range
advantages of his 30 round mags over 10,12 or 15:
EXPERT defenders can take advantage of the 1.2 second pause in reloading a gun with mags.
he barely engadge the police, he fire a couple of randon shots and then killed himself.
The 30 round long gun AR -15 gave him no lethality advantage over a ten round 45 semi auto pistol in the school against children and surprised unarmed teachers.
This guy was INSANE. He was playing ultra violent visceral realistic first person shooter videogames 48 hours at a clip.
Anyone attempting to take any lesson and apply it to the general public, gun owners or not are irresponsible. The HUGE mass of violence in the US is committed by existing felons or misdemeanor offenders who are put into jails with felons and released.
Scapegoating and distraction are the stock and trade of politicians on the left and right.
The solutions to gun violence are way longer sentences for violent felons. violent crime is DIRECTLY related to the number of felons on the streets. Chicigo and NY have similar gun control but Chicago has double proportionate the gun crime as NY and double the number rof felons on the streets.
Leave the ignorance and tinfoil stuff out, concentrate on real solutions based on FACT: Longer sentences for hardcore criminals, isolation of hardcore criminals from younger misdemeanor offenders, better mental health, addition of adjudicated dangerous persons to the FBI list (VA tech had been adjudicated dangerous before his weapon purchase); and leave alone legal gun onwer who actually make society generally safer.
|02-18-2013 05:07 PM|
|02-18-2013 03:48 PM|
ABC, CBS, NBC Admit No Assault Rifle Used at Sandy Hook
|02-18-2013 08:24 AM|
Two guns were not removed from the trunk of the car. There was a single gun, the Saiga-12 combat shotgun that I mentioned before, that was confiscated by police.
|02-18-2013 06:15 AM|
|02-17-2013 10:18 PM|
oh, and FALSE claim on your part, because the medical examiner never confirmed an AR-15, he said, "long gun".... but nice try to claim he said that... and he clearly never said AR-15 so just more lies...and look at your source, 2 guns being removed....any mention of that other gun??? how strange....and strange you didn't mention it either, and still haven't responded to that...
glad to see you're jumping on this, but careful, because the more you jump, the more holes you are creating ...
now tell me, how did I take your claim of the medical examiner saying it was an AR-15, when he clear didn't, out of context....do tell..
how did I take the LEO stating there were multiple guns while confirming a rifle and shogun, out of context
how did I take the NBC claim that there was misinformation in the fact that the AR-15 was used, and in the trunk...and that 4 guns were used and found in the school....did I take that out of context?
how about the video which you posted that shows 2 guns being pulled...I conceded that the one could well be a shotgun, and I can see the other one removed, but can't tell what kind..... conspiracy theory eh?
how about the 2 different witnesses that each saw someone handcuffed/arrested and pinned...and we all saw the footage of the LEO's chasing someone in the woods.....I made that up too? and that is a fake video ???
and what about the car, was it Lanza's? or his moms? or someone elses?
if not his or his moms, whose was it? did he steal it? usually these kind of questions are relevant, but to you and some here, not a darn thing, a big meh... pretty comical actually...
and how about some video footage of all the supposed shot out windows??? have you seen anything or just taking their word again?
how about some real tears in the interviews with the parents?? have you seen any, or just smiles???
you have absolutely ZERO answers... I conceded the one footage of the shotgun thing as it made sense that it was a different type of shotgun, and was valid info on your part...
don't forget how Britain lost the right to arms....mostly due to 2 significant massacres, one in the late 80's and one mid 90's... the first one I believed caused a loss of most semi's and the 2nd incident cauesd a loss in most handguns, except for muskets and powerdered revolvers or something like that....
most people know what the hell is going on, especially here on SD, they're a little more informed than the rest, IMO.... its obvious there is an agenda to incrementally take our guns... yea, ya'll will manipulate some to get on your bandwagon, but most people are smart enough to see the the BS.... I'm not buying y'alls tactics whatsoever...
|02-17-2013 09:17 PM|
thinking back on this post, I noticed you stated if an assault weapon was recovered from "a car," ....then you stated for a cite that definitively identifies "the car" from whose trunk a rifle was recovered....just caught me as strange that you wouldn't have questioned it being "his" car.....
anywyas, I had meant that I thought it was obvious that it was the car that Lanza used.....so not sure if it was his car, his mothers, or brothers, or even stolen.... but pretty sure that was the car he was assumed to have used.... so did you see or hear something about it actually being his car or not?
|02-17-2013 09:04 PM|
1.Confess to be true or to be the case, typically with reluctance.
2.Confess to (a crime or fault, or one's responsibility for it).
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|02-17-2013 08:36 PM|
regarding your top claim, and you later stated you've provided links.... I've checked you links, and it does not point out anything about "admitting that cris actors were used at Sandy Hook." ..WHO admitted that crisis actors were used, please name the person that admitted that, on which video, and at which time frame. so that we can all view the admittance...if its true, I will eat crow, and myself admit that crisis actors were used.... if not, you can still claim that is your belief, but just be honest about it...nothing wrong with that..
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