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|02-08-2013 10:03 AM|
|02-08-2013 08:05 AM|
On-contract T-Mobile plans are $80-90/month for their basic plans with data. Compared to the $30/month prepaid, that's a $1200 difference over 2 years. Assuming that one uses less than 100mins of talk per month anyway and doesn't expect to go outside the service area, why does phone cost matter at all here? You would have to buy a phone for $1200 off-contract vs getting it for $0 on-contract with no resale value to make the prepaid equal in cost to the contract.
"In two years, NFC might become almost a necessary part of daily life from grocery checkouts to library badges."
I highly, highly doubt this considering the number of people aged 60+ who don't currently have smartphones let alone those equipped with NFC and the number of people who are not computer-savvy. People still write checks at the grocery store. Libraries cater to low-income people (i.e. those without even a cell phone).
|02-08-2013 07:09 AM|
You get HSPA+ speeds up to 5gb then you get throttled to EDGE speed from that point on each month.
You need a new sim, you can't use your existing one. Check with TMo but I believe you would lose your existing phone number.
The Walmart notes say you need a phone purchased at Walmart. That's not true, although if you don't have a Walmart phone you need to set up the account directly with TMo, it can't be done in-store.
If you need more details, here's a Slickdeals thread with 5000+ posts. The Wiki contains most of what you need. http://slickdeals.net/f/3377172-T-Mobile-com-Walmart-Prepaid-30-month-Unlim-Text-5GB-Data-100-Voice-Mins-New-Activation-Only
|02-08-2013 02:28 AM|
|02-07-2013 10:12 PM|
|02-07-2013 09:55 PM|
|02-07-2013 12:29 PM|
I realize that for many a contract plan is a deal with the devil and in many cases it is. However, one should look at their own requirements to make the best deal for them.
There are many scenarios in which buying a subsidized phone makes economic practical sense:
1. You have a great grandfathered plan that works for you and they are willing to extend the same plan with a heavily subsidized phone that you need.
2. The restrictions on pre-paid plans in coverage and data allowances make it impractical for you to get the pre-paid. For example, here are the links to the respective coverages for the T-Mobile pre-paid and post-paid contract plans which may make a difference to you:
The difference is the most stark in data coverage that you need for a phone like this and pre-paid plans in most cases do not allow roaming on another carrier. Again, this is something that needs to be considered for each case.
3. The phone is likely to get obsolete by 2 years.
For example, the N4 does not support LTE (don't know if the chip inside but disabled). In two years, LTE will be the norm. Or the S3 does not have NFC. In two years, NFC might become almost a necessary part of daily life from grocery checkouts to library badges. While the reasonable price of the N4 unlocked has less risk from obsolesence, buying other high-end phones paying $500-$600 is as bad as any bad contract phone because you will not amortize that phone over 2 years and will have to keep it much longer while being less useful. This is partiularly true of smartphones unlike the voice and text phones of earlier.
4. You can use an existing relationship for even better subsidies. For example, as a previous customer of T Mobile, I got them to give me the N4 for -$10 (yes negative) with credits. Buying the phone for $349+tax and taking the TMobile value plan would have cost me at least $349 - $120 (in savings over current plan). Pre-paid was not an option for me because of my data usage and roaming requirements. Most of the MVNOs have a lot of explicit and implicit gotchas in their plans, especially for data. There is no free lunch.
I expect I will want to replace this phone in two years. So, I wanted the minimum expense to get a new phone and this situation worked the best for my requirements.
For a first time subscriber to TMobile make sure their service works for you, and if it does the cheapest plan that makes sense with a contract and compare it to the alternative of buying the phone for $249 and the plans you can actually get and their caveats. Given the rapid advances in smartphones at the moment, try to minimize the expense for any new phone even if you can afford it.
Bottom line: Keep an open mind and think of what your requirements are, how long the phone is likely useful to you, what the caveats of any plan (contract or not) and make a decision. No generalizations can be made.
|02-07-2013 11:17 AM|
|sunny81||Forgive the noob question, but if i purchase this device from letstalk and never activate the plan and just want to use it as a mini-tablet with WIFI, can i do that? Thanks in advance|
|02-06-2013 07:19 AM|
Better than paying $199 on contract, I'd call this a slick deal.
That said, it's an even slicker deal to get it from the Play Store and hop onto the $30/month plan (which is what I did). Only problem is you only get 100 minutes and no roaming, but coming from an $80/month Sprint plan I've pretty much gotten the phone to pay for itself.
|02-05-2013 10:14 PM|
you can't beat a grandfathered plan, SDer or not. (unless you can find a time machine)
|02-05-2013 10:12 PM|
But if someone truly needs unlimited everything I guess this is a decent deal.
|02-05-2013 09:57 PM|
I blame LG for this issue. Too many people just want to say "shut up and take my money", but this is far worse than apple "shortages"
|02-05-2013 09:15 PM|
Here's a curious number...I clicked the option for "Phone only - no contract changes" and the quoted price is $549!!! That's a hefty surcharge for a phone you can buy for $299 from Google or anyone else. It does have free shipping. :-)
|02-05-2013 09:12 PM|
|02-05-2013 09:10 PM|
Everyone is still better off buying it without a contract..
But I guess this is currently the best ON contract deal on the N4. so the deal gets a thumbs up.
So if you love contracts, then I guess get this. You will be paying more money over 24months though over a similar plan and buying it off contract.
(around 2190 on contract vs 1060 to 1600 depending on if u pick a 30/40/50 month plan)
phone 340 (8gb from play store)
30 plan x 24 = 720 = 1060 total cost over 2 years.
40 plan x 24 = 960 = 1300
50 plan x 24 = 1200 = 1540
Also remember that 79.99 will have around 10% in taxes/fees monthly making it closer to 88-90/month.
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