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|03-16-2013 08:18 PM|
Blackberry ecosystem is already way behind Android. Its price is double of Google N4.
There is no way to sell at this price. Smart phone hardware components cost is only around $200-$250 if volume is big enough(say more than 1 million units/month). If Blackberry wants to sell its phone, it's better to learn something from Google. How did Google Nexus tablets/phones grab market share from Apple and others.
|03-16-2013 08:14 PM|
|Brooklynite||Do we seriously need another crippled mobile OS?|
|03-16-2013 07:55 PM|
You can FINANCE this phone for $20-30 a month, and pay $600.
OR YOU CAN GET A CONTRACT. And pay approximately $800-1,000 extra inside the contract.
Brilliant, sir, you have done your homework.
You should really compare the T-Mobile Value plans and normal plans.
And by the way, I do believe AT&T gives discounts for an off-contract phone as well.
|03-16-2013 07:24 PM|
|oper||Free with 2 year contract in 6 month from now.|
|03-16-2013 05:02 PM|
|el31415||Do we get a free Playbook with that ?|
|03-16-2013 04:58 PM|
|03-05-2013 05:30 PM|
Compared to iPhone 5, the browser is faster (to my eye anyway) and the screen is nicer. The OS is wayyyy slicker (the always-open notification centre is fantastic). The apps selection though is of course much weaker. I'm not really an app guy though. Skype is the only one I'm waiting for and BlackBerry has confirmed that it's coming sometime around the full U.S. launch. As such, this phone seemed right for me so I took the plunge and ordered one, and at this point couldn't be happier.
|03-05-2013 04:43 PM|
What is ridiculous is that ppl were writing off BB as early as two years ago, making all sorts of comparisons to Palm, Atari, and Lotus Notes (hadn't heard that one before!), yet not only they survived, but also they increased their cash to 3B and launched a completely new platform. Even the analyst are chewing their words and increasing their sales forecast for the Z10.
What is even more ridiculous is that there is much conjecture and speculation from ppl who haven't even seen the Z10. Can someone who has actually used the Z10 objectively give their thoughts on the phone here?
I get that you had an older BB for 5 years, it ran OS18.104.22.168.3, never broke when you dropped her but after 5 years she became too slow, got fat and ugly, needed hard resets, you broke up, got an Android, moved on, Taylor Swift wrote a song about it. That's fascinating. But how is Z10 and how does it compare to the iphone 5?
|03-05-2013 10:29 AM|
if you are look further in Asia, Torch is/was not their preference.
they prefers low-budget BB where BBM for personal& works is the main reason to buy.
As I understand from the news, BB will release low-budget phone to tackle aging low-budget phone product currently on specific countries.
Android and Apple phone are eating BB market very fast....
|03-05-2013 10:22 AM|
I know in some countries . BB is still number one, especially with BBM service.
they can not buy Z10 at the moment due on local laws or late release date.
I know they would pick the money deeply to get the phone without thinking the cost .
|03-05-2013 08:18 AM|
|toromac||If they were smart they would have come out of the gate with this phone for 399. They might only make 50 dollars per phone, but at least they could tease back some customers. At 600 dollars they have set their slow death into motion. Mismanagement at its finest.|
|03-05-2013 05:43 AM|
|Cyrix2k||I think the price is too high to make any real headway, but it's not like the price is out of line compared to other similar spec'd smartphones. My old Blackberry was a great smartphone if you ignore how slow it was. I'd be willing to give the BB10s a shot at a lower price point. The negative comments about this phone are uncalled for and almost certainly from people with no experience.|
|03-05-2013 05:35 AM|
|PJStock42||Because I like to try out new technology, I would absolutely buy one of these, IF it had a Spotify app.|
|03-05-2013 05:28 AM|
Yeah, BB is too late. A fast browser or the most awesome OS in the world won't help them at this point - they're simply too late to the game.
Most big companies that WERE standardized on BB have moved on to iOS or Android, and realized how much easier (and cheaper!) it is to not deal with the BES.
App developers have a gigantic market for iOS & Android. Not many people will be rushing away from those platforms to tap into the tiny BB market. It'll take a looong time for BB apps to get even a fraction of the volume that the market leaders have.
I see BB as the Lotus Notes of the Smartphone world. The old developers will cling to it & swear it's the best thing that ever existed in the history of computing, while meanwhile 95% of the market ignores it.
|03-05-2013 05:18 AM|
I was too cheap to pay for a data plan for my personal phone so I have just taken what my jobs have given me. I've had two blackberries, a windows phone (WP7), and now the S3.
I love my S3 and can't imagine leaving the android ecosystem, but I really liked the last BB I had - the Torch. It was highly customizable and the form factor was great. It was a bit thick, but it was small and having the whole screen available while typing e-mails was very good for work. The system was very intuitive.
I really disliked WP7 (later updated to 7.5 mango). It had some nice features, but I had to install Zune to get music on it which is just as loathsome as Apple and their iTunes bullshit. The UI sucks. Live tiles are nifty but it ends there. The android home screens and widgets are much better. I could never fathom why, when I plugged my WP7 into my Win 7 laptop, it was unrecognized. Wtf microsoft? How slapdick is that? With the S3 and the Torch I could just drag and drop pictures, music, etc. No bloatware necessary. Also, there was no way to get a custom ringtone or notification on the phone. Maybe they fixed that with WP8, but I'll never know.
Long story short, if I didn't love Android so much, I'd be excited to give Blackberry another shot if the price was right. I'd greatly prefer an unknown Blackberry to a stupid iPhone or Windows Phone. But when you can get a Nexus 4 for $300, I don't see how anybody can squeeze into the market now. I wish it wasn't true, but I think BB is doomed unless they could somehow break into the "cheap" smartphone category that Android is dominating.
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