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|03-19-2013 10:06 PM|
|03-19-2013 09:04 PM|
|callpocket||Basic question: You moved a working board and parts to a new case. Did you make sure you used standoffs under the board in the new case in all the locations a screw goes thru the board to install the board in the new case?|
|03-19-2013 12:09 PM|
|03-18-2013 07:49 PM|
|babblinghost||If you remove the memory and then power on the computer do you hear a missing memory beep? Hopefully you do.. in which case it's a sign that the system is functioning at least to some capacity.|
|03-18-2013 04:59 PM|
|03-18-2013 04:52 PM|
Plenty of possibilities:
A) Damaged DVI cable
b) Damaged DVI port
c) Your board was built with VGA has primary before installation of any OS.
D) Bad board
|03-18-2013 03:00 PM|
So I tried two different GPUs, but with both I used DVI. Today before replacing the board I decided to use a VGA cable as one final test and it posted. So for whatever reason, neither GPU worked with a DVI cable even though they worked fine with one before I updated the BIOS.
Any idea on why this is happening?
|03-11-2013 11:40 AM|
One thing I didn't see mentioned. I've had friends build their own machines and place the motherboard in the case...and unknowingly the backside of the board was making some undesired contact with the metal casing causing the machine to not boot and to beep. There are awkward cases out there that just sometimes don't work or boards with soldering shards hanging out a bit to far.
Easiest way to verify this is to remove the components from the tower, plug everything up (assuming you do this on a safe environment for the board (on an anti-static bag probably wouldn't hurt) and see if it will post outside of the case.
It's a bit of work but I've seen this happen multiple times with endless hours of trying to figure out what's wrong when the machine just worked before you swapped it to another case with other parts.
|03-11-2013 02:57 AM|
|03-10-2013 10:12 AM|
Thanks for the info. I don't have a parallel port on my PC and I would probably be better off just getting a new board at that point, but I will try the other methods you mentioned. The BIOS update never actually said it was successful and finished, but it did boot up fine, so I assumed it was. You would think that their updates would be backwards compatible, especially when the live tool only lets you do the most recent update (if I recall correctly), but I guess not.
|03-10-2013 09:20 AM|
Write a negative review at NewEgg.com because MSI seems to pay attention to them and respond there.
MSI is probably the worst when it comes to updating the BIOS, and the methods they recommend are the very methods they tell you to you avoid, as evidenced by this warning in their user forums:
"We do not recommend using the MSI LiveUpdate tool to update your BIOS! It may be okay for updating your drivers, but please do not use it to flash the BIOS in Windows!
Windows-based flashing - If you REALLY insist on flashing the BIOS under Windows, if you encounter any error during flashing, whatever you do, DON'T restart your PC! Try again until the flash is successful, otherwise your board will not start!
Boards with built-in M-Flash function - While this is a nice idea, at the moment we are seeing many cases of users using M-Flash to update their BIOS and having problems, so at present we don't recommend people use M-Flash either!"
What MSI really recommends is using their self-booting flashing tool, which runs from a bootable USB flash drive, not a CD, DVD, hard drive, or floppy disk (link above). MSI gives incorrect instructions that say CD, DVD, or floppy can be used.
It's possible you can get into the boot block BIOS by holding down CTRL and HOME (or CTRL and PageUP or CTRL and PageDown) while turning on the power, but to see anything on the monitor, you'll need a plug-in video card. Any visible message will probably ask you to insert a USB flash drive with the BIOS file on it.
MSI has released several Ivy Bridge BIOS upgrades that do not support Sandy Bridge CPUs. You can install those upgrades with a Sandy Bridge CPU in place, but be careful because the motherboard must be allowed to reboot several times during the upgrade process, over 10-20 minutes, and you don't want to end it prematurely or it won't work with any CPU.
Apparently MSI will update your BIOS for free, provided you pay for shipping back to them in California.
A last resort method of flashing a BIOS is through the SPI port, which is block of 8-10 pins labelled JSPI on MSI motherboard. It requires connecting a special cable to the parallel printer port of another computer and a program called SPIPGM2. The cable must have a resistor in series with each signal wire, to prevent the 5 volt parallel port from damaging the 3.3 volt BIOS chip. I had to resort to this method when a BIOS upgrade bricked my MSI AM3 motherboard.
|03-10-2013 05:43 AM|
|avaican||Check for other solutions, as well. When I built my PC, I plugged my Power Button lead into the LED port. Also, make sure that the power button, if it is on the front bezel, is plugged into the case (You can try shorting the two power lead pins on the motherboard with a screwdriver and see if it POSTs) And, the clip on the PCIe slot, if it was the one on the motherboard, shouldn't matter.|
|03-09-2013 04:06 PM|
EDIT: I broke the blue retaining tab on the PSIe GPU slot awhile ago (no effect on the board). Will they use that to refuse replacing it? If so, I don't want to waste the money on shipping.
|03-09-2013 01:58 PM|
|linux_guru||Unless you can post, get video and reflash with the right BIOS, then I don't see a solution for you. Even then BIOS reflashing is not a sure thing, we're just making an educated guess here about MSI's BIOS versions. If you can't swap the "mother" out on warranty then you should be able to get at least some money back via Ebay sale or like you said, keep it around for future use, although having to use a video card all the time seems like a severe limitation. I understand about gaming and all but these modern gpu's are getting better and better, and even gamers will want to sell or gift their old rigs to somebody one day.|
|03-09-2013 01:51 PM|
Some motherboards have a jumper... with various settings
1) normal, 2) config, 3) recovery
Also move single ram to slot nearest cpu
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